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Old 09-04-2008, 04:27 PM   #51
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Drinking Hardest and the guys at GTS will know who exactly owns it but they won't likely tell you.

tube8 is one of the better tube sites. not that it's a good thing for content owners..
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:33 PM   #52
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:36 PM   #53
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Whats a joke is all you program owners and content producers who moan about these ILLEGAL tube sites STEALING your content and not one of you do shit all about it. If the law says they are thieves and breaking the law like you all say everyday why not do something about it? It would be a lawsuit you would definitely win huh no need for a good lawyer its a given you would win against these sites right?
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You show your fucking ignorance when you say "not one of you do shit" I did. My newest shit ain't on there. And my old shit gets taken down everyday. And none of my future shit is gonna be there. Don't generalize stuff. Words like "none" and "all" are way too general.
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Old 09-04-2008, 05:08 PM   #54
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They dont steal your content. If you have a car and i come hotwire it and drive away you longer have a car, i stole it. Someone uploads your content you still have your content it has just been shared. And since all their content is user uploaded why not just submit a DMCA like everyone else, oh sig views my bad.
Doesn't really matter, technically it's copyright infringement which is usually worse than stealing in a lot of cases.

If you stole a mp3 player worth $100 from someone they would be out $100. If you distributed 1,000 copies of a album or movie that could cost the owner of the content up to 15 grand or so.

It's not my content being shared but even I can see it's fucked up to run those tube sites that share illegally. I've seen that excuse for copyright infringement posted quite often at big nerdy sites such as digg. It's just a way to help them sleep better at night.
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:22 PM   #55
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And since all their content is user uploaded why not just submit a DMCA like everyone else, oh sig views my bad.
9 out of 10 times people are cool and remove content when asked in a nice manner. If they don't the hosting company often steps in or if they have sponsors, many sponsors terminate the account.

DMCA notices DO go out sometimes, but more often than not, it's not needed.

Usually the shortest and most direct path is the correct one.

Though I'm not sure why I just justified anything to you. I'm pretty sure you are not a content producer and really have no real idea of how to deal with such issues. It's not just as easy as sending a DMCA notice.

To go a step further, once you get to know some of the site owners and are cool with them, the tend to keep (I can only speak for myself here) my content off of their site. Not all of them, but a good handful are decent guys who will remove content just by asking.
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Old 09-04-2008, 07:13 PM   #56
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9 out of 10 times people are cool and remove content when asked in a nice manner. If they don't the hosting company often steps in or if they have sponsors, many sponsors terminate the account.

DMCA notices DO go out sometimes, but more often than not, it's not needed.

Usually the shortest and most direct path is the correct one.

Though I'm not sure why I just justified anything to you. I'm pretty sure you are not a content producer and really have no real idea of how to deal with such issues. It's not just as easy as sending a DMCA notice.

To go a step further, once you get to know some of the site owners and are cool with them, the tend to keep (I can only speak for myself here) my content off of their site. Not all of them, but a good handful are decent guys who will remove content just by asking.

Its cool that they are cool and all about it... but, why the hell should we have to be asking them to do it in the first place?


Its like someone breaks into your house, steals your TV. You track him down and tell him : Hey you stole my TV! And he returns it to you and promises never to steal your shit again.

Thats fine you say!?!? No, the dude still stole your shit, that makes him a CRIMINAL.


and btw, I know DWB you're not supporting this, I'm making a point, not counter-arguing what you just said.
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:37 AM   #57
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So faggot, explain to me whats pisspoor about it?

Its non relevant? Or not important because they werent stolen from the adult industry?
What you are doing is called DEFLECTION, trying to turn the topic onto the other person. This is generally done without facts, just making things up to justify yourself and get others to agree with your misinformation.


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Old 09-05-2008, 01:58 AM   #58
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Lets say you are a pay site owner with over 100 clips in your members section...

What if someone happens to upload one or two of your full clips/vids on their Tube site but provides a link to your site at the same time, affiliated link or simply a link, would you consider this not so bad and something you could live with considering they are linking/crediting you...

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Old 09-05-2008, 02:35 AM   #59
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gideongallery is that you?



You show your fucking ignorance when you say "not one of you do shit" I did. My newest shit ain't on there. And my old shit gets taken down everyday. And none of my future shit is gonna be there. Don't generalize stuff. Words like "none" and "all" are way too general.
Good for you but it probably wasnt what i was talking about, did you sue them, did you get them shut down? If someone is a thief and breaking the law, they go to jail 9/10 do they not? People throw around these tubes are "illegal" for to easily because if they were illegal they would not still be running for 2 years.
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:35 AM   #60
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So, now you know who owns this tube site, what is next? What are you going to do?
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Old 09-05-2008, 03:42 AM   #61
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Its cool that they are cool and all about it... but, why the hell should we have to be asking them to do it in the first place?


Its like someone breaks into your house, steals your TV. You track him down and tell him : Hey you stole my TV! And he returns it to you and promises never to steal your shit again.

Thats fine you say!?!? No, the dude still stole your shit, that makes him a CRIMINAL.


and btw, I know DWB you're not supporting this, I'm making a point, not counter-arguing what you just said.

Yea, I hear you. And if I caught someone stealing my TV, I would beat them down, drag them back into the house and probably shoot them. But my place of residence is more sacred to me than the porno I create so I can't really justify beating up and capping people who steal content. lol Though I wouldn't complain if someone did.

Until some laws are changed that are in OUR favor, this method is what I try first as it is usually the easiest and often does get the job done.

The content is going to be stolen. There is no doubt about it. Newsgroups, torrents, tubes and any other file sharing network, and don't even get me started on how many of my DVDs are actually bootlegged and sold on the streets. Ugh.
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:30 AM   #62
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I feel more sorry for the people who created photoshop who have there cracked soft all over the place.
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:32 AM   #63
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Good for you but it probably wasnt what i was talking about, did you sue them, did you get them shut down? If someone is a thief and breaking the law, they go to jail 9/10 do they not? People throw around these tubes are "illegal" for to easily because if they were illegal they would not still be running for 2 years.
No, I think we all call them "illegal" because they have stolen content on them. And yes, we're all aware of the loopholes that are in place because the laws haven't caught up with technology YET.

But if this were only 3 years ago...you never saw someone else's content on an unlicensed site. Please believe me. One of the things I have done in this biz is own a content company from 1998 to 2002. Back then, this was a "closed business"

Everyone knew everyone and it was your ass if you had somebodies content. I didn't see the torrent thing exploding until late 2006. And now the tubes.

The laws pertaining to copywritten materials are far behind what is happening in technology. We all know that. So "yes" those sites with unauthorized content ARE technically "legal". But everyone here knows right from wrong. And it's only a matter of time until the situation is rectified.

In the meantime, there will be a short term money grab by people who know they are stealing and just using loopholes to cover their ass.

So "no", I'm not gonna take anybody to court. Already paid a couple of lawyers too much money to look into all of that last year. And FYI, no court in the United States will ever look kindly on a porn site. Judges are elected officials and it looks good for them to stick it to us. You won't find a friendly face sitting on the bench when you bring your case in. And on top of that you put yourself on the governments' "map" when you start that kind of thing. And that is NEVER a good thing. Especially since most of us have families.

What I did and what EVERYBODY needs to do is use every resource at our disposal to stop our content from being on the tubes and torrents. Once we secure our stuff and actively yank it off of the tubes and torrents...then the "problem" will be solved until the laws can catch up with technology.
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:13 AM   #64
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Old 09-05-2008, 06:32 AM   #65
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That site is wrong in so many ways
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:02 AM   #66
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What you are doing is called DEFLECTION, trying to turn the topic onto the other person. This is generally done without facts, just making things up to justify yourself and get others to agree with your misinformation.


Let us know, oh cockless one when you have actual proof of him with the music. You know, like you can go to Tube8 and see the ...


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Cocksucker, it wasnt aimed just at DWB. More at the 90% of people in this thread who cry about tube sites while in the meantime they have 3000 mp3's on their computer.
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I feel more sorry for the people who created photoshop who have there cracked soft all over the place.
The same 90% i just talked about have illegal software on their computer. Thats a fact.

But thats all no problem because it doesnt affect their sales.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:19 AM   #68
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Looks like i killed yet another tube thread
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Its funny how once you point out what a hypocrites people are they suddenly all stop crying and dissapear.
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:06 AM   #70
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What if someone happens to upload one or two of your full clips/vids on their Tube site but provides a link to your site at the same time, affiliated link or simply a link, would you consider this not so bad and something you could live with considering they are linking/crediting you...

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Its funny how once you point out what a hypocrites people are they suddenly all stop crying and dissapear.
True there is some hypocrism into it. But in my opinion there is a difference between using pirated software and distributing it to others.
In the first example it's damage x1, and with the distribution you multiply the damage with all those who download..

Both things are bad. One is just more severe than the other.
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Post a new Guns and Roses song on their site, then they'll end up in jail.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:56 PM   #73
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The owner is Nasko. I always thought he was a good guy but he just confirmed he was the owner.

ICQ Number : 32-517-703
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Is this really the owner??
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