Ann Angel webmaster changing percentages to 5%? - GoFuckYourself.com

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 12:39 PM

Was wondering why my stats on sales seemed to be off:
Affiliate: DigitalAngelDollars

Subaccount:0001-anna-angel.com

Date: 2008-10-25 16:18:56

Type: Single

Sub Id:0308299601000005435

Amount: $2.39

Active: Y

Signup Date: 25 Oct 2008

Length: 60

End Date: 24 Dec 2008

Then I checked out this:

DigitalAngelDollars

08 Aug 2004

5.000 <---what my percentage of the sale is.

I am thinking this has to be a error. Until I heard this :"Oh, do you know what this is? Anna's bf sets your referral to 5 or 10% when you use pictures that have too much labia, or something.

He doesn't get in touch with you first, he just does that. He waits until you make enough ripped off sales that you notice, and gives that as a reason."

No labia on my galleries.......I think I did see a butthole peeking through though

Would like some answers please

martinsc · 10-26-2008, 12:42 PM

Mutt · 10-26-2008, 12:44 PM

CCBILL should yank their account for that - NATS has a policy that if they catch anybody using their software to jerk an affiliate around (shave) then sayonara, CCBILL should have the same - he had the right to terminate you if you broke a rule that is in their Terms and Conditions - but NOT the right to STEAL from you which is exactly what he did by setting your affiliate % to 5% without informing you.

fris · 10-26-2008, 12:44 PM

5% is the new pps

bobby666 · 10-26-2008, 12:44 PM

that doesn't sound good

martinsc · 10-26-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

CCBILL should yank their account for that - NATS has a policy that if they catch anybody using their software to jerk an affiliate around (shave) then sayonara, CCBILL should have the same - he had the right to terminate you if you broke a rule that is in their Terms and Conditions - but NOT the right to STEAL from you which is exactly what he did by setting your affiliate % to 5% without informing you.

ottyhotties · 10-26-2008, 12:49 PM

That's bullshit! If he didn't inform you of the percentage change he needs to refund you 100% of those sales back not 50%.

Violetta · 10-26-2008, 12:54 PM

that sucks,...

- Jesus Christ - · 10-26-2008, 12:55 PM

Posting about it here is good, and I hope you pulled all links.

Manowar · 10-26-2008, 12:56 PM

Anywhere to check what payment is set to?

DavieVegas · 10-26-2008, 12:57 PM

wow what a crock of shit......very unprofessional

- Jesus Christ - · 10-26-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

Anywhere to check what payment is set to?

"Tools" in ccbill

ottyhotties · 10-26-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Manowar

Anywhere to check what payment is set to?

tools in ccbill will list your programs and the percentage.

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Posting about it here is good, and I hope you pulled all links.

See what the response is first.

NaughtyRob · 10-26-2008, 01:02 PM

Thats some serious fucked up shit.

- Jesus Christ - · 10-26-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bods4Mods

See what the response is first.

Fuck that... I would move on no matter what the response. There are plenty of quality programs out there.

I see people cry about the direction of this industry all the time. The only way it will ever change is if people don't forgiving program operators for this kind of of shit. Its like women who stay with men that beat them.

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty

Thats some serious fucked up shit.

Yeah, and I guess what pisses me off is that it is one of the better sites out there as far as updating and excellent content. Sites like that are a joy to push.

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Fuck that... I would move on no matter what the response. There are plenty of quality programs out there.

I see people cry about the direction of this industry all the time. The only way it will ever change is if people don't forgiving program operators for this kind of of shit. Its like women who stay with men that beat them.

I get where you are coming from totally man. Trust me. I would just like to hear what they have to say about it. Digital Angel Dollars will be stricken from bods.

rowan · 10-26-2008, 01:13 PM

This reminds me to do my regular check of ccbill affiliate subaccounts.

After login, click on "Tools", change the "Items per page" setting at the very bottom to 500, then click on "Percentage Payout" to rank accounts by that value. You'll clearly see anything that's not kosher.

Unfortunately, you have to check each account individually (click "View") in order to see whether they're shafting you on rebills.

TheSenator · 10-26-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bods4Mods

I get where you are coming from totally man. Trust me. I would just like to hear what they have to say about it. Digital Angel Dollars will be stricken from bods.

I have been sending sales for years. I am pretty sure with the thousands of account they have on CCBill that they made a mistake.

Don't worry they'll fixed up.

After Shock Media · 10-26-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

I have been sending sales for years. I am pretty sure with the thousands of account they have on CCBill that they made a mistake.

Don't worry they'll fixed up.

If you know ccbill's admin. Please try to guess how such a mistake could happen? I have a hard time doing that.

Manowar · 10-26-2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

This reminds me to do my regular check of ccbill affiliate subaccounts.

After login, click on "Tools", change the "Items per page" setting at the very bottom to 500, then click on "Percentage Payout" to rank accounts by that value. You'll clearly see anything that's not kosher.

Unfortunately, you have to check each account individually (click "View") in order to see whether they're shafting you on rebills.

Thx for the headsup, will do one now.

The Duck · 10-26-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

5% is the new pps

lol.....

Jinx · 10-26-2008, 01:47 PM

Thats crap, hope to hear a response from someone behind the program

Sly · 10-26-2008, 01:49 PM

So is this content provided by them? In promotional packages or is it content taken from the members section by your self?

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

So is this content provided by them? In promotional packages or is it content taken from the members section by your self?

Promo and members. 99% of the sites I promote I do through members area and following the rules set forth by the company.

LukieD · 10-26-2008, 01:55 PM

If its changed without contacting you that's fucked up and fraud. I hope CCBill take necessary action..

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LukieD

If its changed without contacting you that's fucked up and fraud. I hope CCBill take necessary action..

Not a single word from them. A reach around would have been nice

Abbie · 10-26-2008, 02:24 PM

That's fucked up...reminds me of someone else i know. i'd be curious as to their response on this.

Yet another reason I like NATS better.

ottyhotties · 10-26-2008, 02:30 PM

Without an email and an attempt to resolve issues it's theft and shaving on the program's part. Those sales need to get refunded 100% -- no 50/50 split. Bods got shaved and robbed. Those rebills need to get corrected too.

After Shock Media · 10-26-2008, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbie

That's fucked up...reminds me of someone else i know. i'd be curious as to their response on this.

Yet another reason I like NATS better.

Why would you like nats better?
Think it would be any different with someone altering a percentage?
Hell with any third party script, not only can they alter the percentage they are also in charge of sending out their own checks. Now you would really trust a company more if they were in control of not only the payout percentages but also all of the money too?

Agent 488 · 10-26-2008, 02:39 PM

must have been the work of a rogue employee.

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 02:59 PM

Out for a while. Hopefully this gets resolved by the time I get back. Feel free to bump in my absence

starpimps · 10-26-2008, 03:04 PM

thats pretty messed up..

DBS.US · 10-26-2008, 03:10 PM

A shave is a shave

wyldblyss · 10-26-2008, 03:14 PM

I checked my percentage payout with them and it is at 50%

Nicky · 10-26-2008, 03:17 PM

Haven't I read this before?

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 03:20 PM

Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of.

That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%.

This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

F U S I O N · 10-26-2008, 03:21 PM

I pulled their links after I found out they were blocking IPs on tour links and hosted galleries (all going 403)

KillerK · 10-26-2008, 03:24 PM

Wow, what a nice shave!!

TheSenator · 10-26-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by F U S I O N

I pulled their links after I found out they were blocking IPs on tour links and hosted galleries (all going 403)

Yes, they has a reason for doing that. I emailed them and it all got fixed.

- Jesus Christ - · 10-26-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of.

That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%.

This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

In the future I would suggest you terminate/suspend partners you believe are in violation of your terms when you can't make contact with them. You are simply asking for trouble doing something like this. I'm not even sure if its legal.

Iron Fist · 10-26-2008, 03:31 PM

Hmm... never had a problem with DAD... oh wait.. that doesn't sound right.

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 03:37 PM

I wanted to give the affiliate benefit of a doubt and it was mainly to draw the affiliate's attention to the problem, since they did not reply to complaint emails. Suspension would have come in only one more week. I think it's fair to give everyone a chance to straighten things up.

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP.

fris · 10-26-2008, 03:50 PM

So you drop their percentage just to get their attention? What is ccbill's take on this, someone should send a link to this thread to corvette, That is so wrong on so many levels, bods has excellent traffic, i know its made me lots of money over the years.

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

So you drop their percentage just to get their attention? What is ccbill's take on this, someone should send a link to this thread to corvette, That is so wrong on so many levels, bods has excellent traffic, i know its made me lots of money over the years.

No, I dropped him because he was violating some of our terms in content usage. If someone violates our terms, and they do not reply to our contacts, this is the first step taken. They are given a chance to straighten things out before full suspension.

I guess by trying to do the right thing for the affiliate, I gave myself more of a headache than I had with him violating my terms. I did what was in the best interest of the affiliate.

Doctor Dre · 10-26-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of.

That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%.

This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

Your answer is very rude, impolite and confrontating... to sum it up : very bad public relations.

With all the affiliate programs out there, everybody who read that is definitly not going to use you in the future.

Why lowering the percentage to 5 % instead of just suspending the account ? it sounds like a very shady way to keep the affiliate sending sales while suspended.

LukieD · 10-26-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

I guess by trying to do the right thing for the affiliate, I gave myself more of a headache than I had with him violating my terms. I did what was in the best interest of the affiliate.

Are you serious? If you really wanted to get hold of someone you can. Post on boards they frequent/ask others for their icq etc.

And dropping an affiliate to 5% until they realise is clearly the best way to get their attention? I lol'd.

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 04:30 PM

The affiliate's account has now been suspended until they are able to resolve the issue we have notified them of several times.

We provide great support and affiliate care. If any affiliate has a problem, has any questions, or is in need of more promo tools, we have a 24/7 email support system. We can easily resolve any problem or situation within a matter of minutes that comes up.

I am hurt that this affiliate who has been with us for such a long time has gone this route and that we had to come to the suspension of the account. Hopefully "Bods4Mods" can straighten this out so we can get back to business as usual.

BlackCrayon · 10-26-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP.

Does this really work? pics and vids are available all over the internet, the only thing that can't be reached is the paysite and fhg.

10-26-2008, 12:39 PM	#1
Bods4Mods Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 904	Ann Angel webmaster changing percentages to 5%? Was wondering why my stats on sales seemed to be off: Affiliate: DigitalAngelDollars Subaccount:0001-anna-angel.com Date: 2008-10-25 16:18:56 Type: Single Sub Id:0308299601000005435 Amount: $2.39 Active: Y Signup Date: 25 Oct 2008 Length: 60 End Date: 24 Dec 2008 Then I checked out this: DigitalAngelDollars 08 Aug 2004 5.000 <---what my percentage of the sale is. I am thinking this has to be a error. Until I heard this :"Oh, do you know what this is? Anna's bf sets your referral to 5 or 10% when you use pictures that have too much labia, or something. He doesn't get in touch with you first, he just does that. He waits until you make enough ripped off sales that you notice, and gives that as a reason." No labia on my galleries.......I think I did see a butthole peeking through though Would like some answers please __________________ [BODSFORTHEMODS][B4TM][BODS LIST]

10-26-2008, 12:42 PM	#2
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10-26-2008, 12:44 PM	#3
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	CCBILL should yank their account for that - NATS has a policy that if they catch anybody using their software to jerk an affiliate around (shave) then sayonara, CCBILL should have the same - he had the right to terminate you if you broke a rule that is in their Terms and Conditions - but NOT the right to STEAL from you which is exactly what he did by setting your affiliate % to 5% without informing you. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

10-26-2008, 12:44 PM	#4
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,229	5% is the new pps __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-26-2008, 12:44 PM	#5
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10-26-2008, 12:49 PM	#7
ottyhotties Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: MI Posts: 188	That's bullshit! If he didn't inform you of the percentage change he needs to refund you 100% of those sales back not 50%.

10-26-2008, 12:54 PM	#8
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10-26-2008, 12:55 PM	#9
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10-26-2008, 12:56 PM	#10
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	Anywhere to check what payment is set to?

10-26-2008, 12:57 PM	#11
DavieVegas Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 6,116	wow what a crock of shit......very unprofessional __________________ SKYPE#: davievegas - email: ddmedia702[at]mail[.]com

10-26-2008, 01:02 PM	#15
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10-26-2008, 01:13 PM	#19
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	This reminds me to do my regular check of ccbill affiliate subaccounts. After login, click on "Tools", change the "Items per page" setting at the very bottom to 500, then click on "Percentage Payout" to rank accounts by that value. You'll clearly see anything that's not kosher. Unfortunately, you have to check each account individually (click "View") in order to see whether they're shafting you on rebills.

10-26-2008, 01:47 PM	#24
Jinx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 636	Thats crap, hope to hear a response from someone behind the program __________________ ICQ: 360-63-200

10-26-2008, 01:49 PM	#25
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,289	So is this content provided by them? In promotional packages or is it content taken from the members section by your self? __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale

10-26-2008, 01:55 PM	#27
LukieD Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: London Posts: 927	If its changed without contacting you that's fucked up and fraud. I hope CCBill take necessary action..

10-26-2008, 02:24 PM	#29
Abbie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,004	That's fucked up...reminds me of someone else i know. i'd be curious as to their response on this. Yet another reason I like NATS better.

10-26-2008, 02:30 PM	#30
ottyhotties Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: MI Posts: 188	Without an email and an attempt to resolve issues it's theft and shaving on the program's part. Those sales need to get refunded 100% -- no 50/50 split. Bods got shaved and robbed. Those rebills need to get corrected too.

10-26-2008, 02:39 PM	#32
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	must have been the work of a rogue employee.

10-26-2008, 02:59 PM	#33
Bods4Mods Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 904	Out for a while. Hopefully this gets resolved by the time I get back. Feel free to bump in my absence __________________ [BODSFORTHEMODS][B4TM][BODS LIST]

10-26-2008, 03:04 PM	#34
starpimps Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: internets Posts: 6,954	thats pretty messed up.. __________________ Teen Porn Models / Solo Girls

10-26-2008, 03:10 PM	#35
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10-26-2008, 03:14 PM	#36
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	I checked my percentage payout with them and it is at 50%

10-26-2008, 03:17 PM	#37
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	Haven't I read this before? __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

10-26-2008, 03:20 PM	#38
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of. That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%. This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure. Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

10-26-2008, 03:21 PM	#39
F U S I O N Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,898	I pulled their links after I found out they were blocking IPs on tour links and hosted galleries (all going 403)

10-26-2008, 03:24 PM	#40
KillerK Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,406	Wow, what a nice shave!!

10-26-2008, 03:31 PM	#43
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Hmm... never had a problem with DAD... oh wait.. that doesn't sound right. __________________ i like waffles

10-26-2008, 03:37 PM	#44
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	I wanted to give the affiliate benefit of a doubt and it was mainly to draw the affiliate's attention to the problem, since they did not reply to complaint emails. Suspension would have come in only one more week. I think it's fair to give everyone a chance to straighten things up. Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

10-26-2008, 03:50 PM	#45
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,229	So you drop their percentage just to get their attention? What is ccbill's take on this, someone should send a link to this thread to corvette, That is so wrong on so many levels, bods has excellent traffic, i know its made me lots of money over the years. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-26-2008, 04:30 PM	#49
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	The affiliate's account has now been suspended until they are able to resolve the issue we have notified them of several times. We provide great support and affiliate care. If any affiliate has a problem, has any questions, or is in need of more promo tools, we have a 24/7 email support system. We can easily resolve any problem or situation within a matter of minutes that comes up. I am hurt that this affiliate who has been with us for such a long time has gone this route and that we had to come to the suspension of the account. Hopefully "Bods4Mods" can straighten this out so we can get back to business as usual. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!