[Tutorial] Clips4Sale (clips stores) and Starting Out in the Biz - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

Barefootsies · 04-17-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ModelPerfect

Great post. Bookmarking now and will apply your pearls at my next free chunk of time.

Kiwigirl · 04-17-2009, 12:03 PM

Great post, good read and fantastic feed back for those who need it.
Job well done in sharing the info Barefootsies!

Barefootsies · 04-20-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwigirl

Great post, good read and fantastic feed back for those who need it.
Job well done in sharing the info Barefootsies!

Thanks little cutie. When can I get some toe pix.

For those looking for a working example (more extensive than post #146)
http://www.gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/899336-50-clips-50-bonus-500-00-revised.html

You do not always need exclusive to bank on clip stores. However, I honestly doubt tired 1000 times rerun shit will sell well unless priced accordingly. In the end, it will come down to can you market and have some decent content.

papagmp · 04-20-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne

People have the option of purchasing my videos individually or buying a membership for $40 a month. My membership web site has thousands of videos and hi res photos....years worth. You would be surprised how many people spend more than $40. purchasing single clips than joining the web site...every month. Beyond that, think of selling clips like selling samples. You actually get paid for people to watch enough of your content to decide if they like it enough to join your web site. :-) Clips4Sale rocks.

Cheyenne

Couldn't have said it better - I started using clip stores a few months back diverting some of my own traffic to the store. Now I'm seeing people sign up for my pay sites from the clip stores AFTER already spending two to three times as much on clips as the original membership would have cost them. Not that I'm complaining........

Barefootsies · 04-21-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kinky John

depends how you look at it..

if you feed clipstores yourself, and your sales come mainly from self generated traffic,
then effectively clips4sale is just another % taking content delivery platform / processor

however.. regards my reference to "back in the day"

for those who don't ( or didn't then ) feed their clipstores, and rely on c4s traffic
then the majority of the in-house clips4sale traffic comes from the index page,
to show on the index page you need to be updating regular & / or advertising..
when there were LESS people signed up, stores stayed on the index longer..

Agreed.

Back in the "good ole days" there were less than 5,000 (now over 20,000) stores. So it was all about the 'pop'. Neil bought traffic and threw it at the main page, also did his Howard Stern promos, among other things.

You would be on the main page for a few hours, or most of the day (depending on when you were around) and then you could take advantage of the 'pop' traffic and depend on it. As many did.

I, however, always promoted mine elsewhere. I hate being dependent on other people's traffic, or I should say one traffic source. So I would add clip store links to my other things and drive some more traffic to the store. It has served me well.

The 'pop' was always nice, and I still consider it when doing updates. But I consider that gravy traffic, and do not bank on it. It is not clips4sale's responsibility to get me traffic.

Barefootsies · 04-23-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by papagmp

Couldn't have said it better - I started using clip stores a few months back diverting some of my own traffic to the store. Now I'm seeing people sign up for my pay sites from the clip stores AFTER already spending two to three times as much on clips as the original membership would have cost them. Not that I'm complaining........

Go true. I have said this for YEARS.

It always surprises me people want their $30 so badly, they discount those people who will buy hundreds of dollars in clips a month off the clip store. Unbelievable.

Barefootsies · 04-29-2009, 10:54 AM

Oh my....

Spelvin · 09-11-2009, 01:53 PM

If I have clips that I'd hope to sell nonexclusive rights to, to a webmaster or something, would having those clips up on clips4sale make a person less likely to want to buy the rights?

fmltube · 09-11-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spelvin

If I have clips that I'd hope to sell nonexclusive rights to, to a webmaster or something, would having those clips up on clips4sale make a person less likely to want to buy the rights?

I would think that is possible. Depending on the scene and demand, it may swing either way.

Barefootsies · 09-11-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spelvin

If I have clips that I'd hope to sell nonexclusive rights to, to a webmaster or something, would having those clips up on clips4sale make a person less likely to want to buy the rights?

Depends on the company.

Content can be worked from many different angles. Some people think you need exclusive, and that is not always the case. In the end it will come down to who can market the best, and who know how to work the system.

Whether clips4sale, or tgp's, pay sites, tube hybrids, whatever. Knowing 'how to sell' is equally as important as the best, most exclusive, most professional, content in the world.

Barefootsies · 09-13-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

I would think that is possible. Depending on the scene and demand, it may swing either way.

TrafficRush · 09-13-2009, 09:51 AM

awesome tips for the newbies

purecharlie · 09-13-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne

You would be surprised how many people spend more than $40, purchasing single clips than joining the web site...every month.

This is sooooooo true! When I started my first paysite four years ago I also started a Clips4Sale store to supplement income. I am still amazed even today how some people will spend hundreds of dollars buying individual clips, when they could just spend $30 for a one month membership and download whichever ones they wanted.
I know it doesn't make sense, but they still do it . . so guys, follow the advice and get a Clips4Sale store - it's a no-brainer.

oh, and if you want to spend hundreds of dollars (or even just a few) on some of my Clips4Sale stores, be my guest

here are the links:-
PureCFNM - http://www.clips4sale.com/studio/3435
Upskirt Heaven - http://www.clips4sale.com/studio/3435
Wank For Me - http://www.clips4sale.com/studio/6001

miss_bellabellini · 09-13-2009, 10:24 AM

I started my clips4sale store recently and I should have done it months ago! I've started branching out in another niche and I'm getting some great information about what sort of clips I do well & sell well. I've checked out some of the successful studios in the top 50 and they update daily, take customer requests, and generate their own traffic whether it is through other pay sites and/or community forums.

I'm going to submit a movie gallery to see what that sort of traffic does for my clips4sale store. I'm also going to add 2 new clips a day. I'm excited to see what my results are after a full month on there

Barefootsies · 09-28-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TrafficPlace.Net

awesome tips for the newbies

Indeed they are.

Nice to read the tips from others as well on what they use/d.

designerscode · 01-25-2010, 06:40 PM

Hey, awesome tutorial. Been reading it 'til the last page. Would be a great resource for starting noobs like me

Barefootsies · 01-25-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by designerscode

Hey, awesome tutorial. Been reading it 'til the last page. Would be a great resource for starting noobs like me

Thanks for feedback buddy. Here is another helper for you.

Newbies: Guaranteed Return on Investment (Tutorial)

Playboy-Deak · 02-06-2010, 07:39 PM

Nice! I been looking for how sales can pick up!...

Bman · 02-06-2010, 11:19 PM

Like Barefootsies says pound it out..

although I will say one thing that I have learned , the better organized you are the more you can sell.

Paul Markham · 02-07-2010, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fungus

Great I can never ever understand why people do this!! Make money and then go tell tons of new people how to make money so you now have to fight even harder then you did before you opened up the pie hole! *shrugs* Hell why not put your bank account info in your post as well?

You should have a paysite or two to make c4s really work and a lot of content that is niche orientated that is good. Without them it's tough. So he's giving little away.

More to porn than putting up content.

The Porn Nerd · 02-07-2010, 10:11 AM

Do you find that the clips4sale stores leech sales from your paysites? It sounds like one kinda feeds the other, which is an awesome thing for you! If you're doing fetish stuff, like tickling, all the stuff you mentioned, then wow, what a great resource! But would 'mainstream' porn - non fetish/kink scenes - do well on C4S or do you think, in that scenario, C4S would leech sales from the paysite?

I only ask because I've always wondered this. If I were a surfer and I saw an option to buy a single clip for, say, $6.99, maybe I would choose that option rather than the $29.95 recurring option (or even $34.95 non-recurring).

Then again, maybe at the end of the day the revenue is up anyway so who cares? LOL GREAT tutorial!!

Barefootsies · 02-07-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Do you find that the clips4sale stores leech sales from your paysites? It sounds like one kinda feeds the other, which is an awesome thing for you! If you're doing fetish stuff, like tickling, all the stuff you mentioned, then wow, what a great resource! But would 'mainstream' porn - non fetish/kink scenes - do well on C4S or do you think, in that scenario, C4S would leech sales from the paysite?

I only ask because I've always wondered this. If I were a surfer and I saw an option to buy a single clip for, say, $6.99, maybe I would choose that option rather than the $29.95 recurring option (or even $34.95 non-recurring).

Then again, maybe at the end of the day the revenue is up anyway so who cares? LOL GREAT tutorial!!

A sale is a sale.

A lot of times they are buying multiple clips. So they are already paying more than a single month's membership. Plus they tend to buy throughout the month. I have had people buying hundreds of dollars of clips (all the new) every month instead of just buying a membership.

While it makes no sense, who cares. Money is money.

BVF · 02-07-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by purecharlie

This is sooooooo true! When I started my first paysite four years ago I also started a Clips4Sale store to supplement income. I am still amazed even today how some people will spend hundreds of dollars buying individual clips, when they could just spend $30 for a one month membership and download whichever ones they wanted.
I know it doesn't make sense, but they still do it . . so guys, follow the advice and get a Clips4Sale store - it's a no-brainer

Don't I know it.

Store ID: 24658
SO# xxxxxxx
Clip ID#: 72.xxx.xxx.xx-201001271833xxxxxxx

Neighborhood Nicole $13.99 $8.394
Grand Canyon Buttcrack Gets Fucked Part 2 $11.99 $7.194
Grand Canyon Buttcrack Gets Fucked Part 1 $12.99 $7.794
Young Money Gets Fucked $11.99 $7.194
Granny Gum Gums $11.99 $7.194
The Adventures of P Dikky Pt. 1 $11.99 $7.194
The Adventures of P Dikky Pt. 2 $8.99 $5.394
Spare Change Part 1 $12.99 $7.794
Spare Change Part 2 $14.99 $8.994
Crunchy Black $8.99 $5.394
Big Titty Delilah Gets Fucked $2.99 $1.794
Bubble Gum $4.99 $2.994
Itsy Bitsy Gets Fucked $4.99 $2.994
Ton O Titty Tika Sucks Dick $8.99 $5.394
Skully $5.99 $3.594
Earthquake $5.99 $3.594
Wiggles $6.99 $4.194
Nubia 18 y.o. Ghetto Coed $2.99 $1.794
Scruffy $3.99 $2.394
Totals $168.81 $101.29

The Porn Nerd · 02-07-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

A sale is a sale.

A lot of times they are buying multiple clips. So they are already paying more than a single month's membership. Plus they tend to buy throughout the month. I have had people buying hundreds of dollars of clips (all the new) every month instead of just buying a membership.

While it makes no sense, who cares. Money is money.

Oh I agree totally. LOL Money IS money, and I wouldn't give a fuck if they bought postage stamps instead of my porn.

My only thing about C4S, and all clip stores, is that, for ME, for MY shitty content (the stuff I shoot, not Fellucia Blow or Sexxy Brandon or any of the higher quality stuff I have) the amount of effort it took to pull in only a couple hundred bucks a week wasn't worth it to me; I'd rather spend that time working on my network.

Having said that, if I had content that sold on the clips stores I'd being doing exactly the same thing as you (tho no way as successful).

(PS: Sorry for the shitty tone of one of my earlier responses to another of your posts. Bad day + no sleep + no sex = a cranky Mister P. Sorry i was a wee douschebag-y-ish).

Barefootsies · 02-07-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Don't I know it.

Store ID: 24658
SO# xxxxxxx
Clip ID#: 72.xxx.xxx.xx-201001271833xxxxxxx

Totals $168.81 $101.29

As I have said man times BRO. There is a method to the madness of working a clip store.

Barefootsies · 02-07-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Oh I agree totally. LOL Money IS money, and I wouldn't give a fuck if they bought postage stamps instead of my porn.

My only thing about C4S, and all clip stores, is that, for ME, for MY shitty content (the stuff I shoot, not Fellucia Blow or Sexxy Brandon or any of the higher quality stuff I have) the amount of effort it took to pull in only a couple hundred bucks a week wasn't worth it to me; I'd rather spend that time working on my network.

Having said that, if I had content that sold on the clips stores I'd being doing exactly the same thing as you (tho no way as successful).

(PS: Sorry for the shitty tone of one of my earlier responses to another of your posts. Bad day + no sleep + no sex = a cranky Mister P. Sorry i was a wee douschebag-y-ish).

No worries hoss. We all have our days.

Clips stores are not for everyone. Not everyone's content is going to convert. Plus they take some degree or work just like a pay site or any other adult property. Not as much IMHO. However, you still have to invest a wee bit of time to make your cabbage.

That said, I love the simplicity of a clip store. For me, it is easy extra money with less than a half hour's worth of work daily to make a car or house payment for the month. Even on rerun content.

A clip store is not going to make you a millionaire, but for what little time it takes me (and others) for the extra money. It is a nice business model for some easy money.

The Porn Nerd · 02-07-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

No worries hoss. We all have our days.

Clips stores are not for everyone. Not everyone's content is going to convert. Plus they take some degree or work just like a pay site or any other adult property. Not as much IMHO. However, you still have to invest a wee bit of time to make your cabbage.

That said, I love the simplicity of a clip store. For me, it is easy extra money with less than a half hour's worth of work daily to make a car or house payment for the month. Even on rerun content.

A clip store is not going to make you a millionaire, but for what little time it takes me (and others) for the extra money. It is a nice business model for some easy money.

Thanks for understanding.

Maybe once the new MisterPeabodyWorld launches (this week, finally, thank Jesus) and the revamped AP program launches (in about 2 weeks) I can turn my attention to trying a clips store again. I KNOW it would be killer for Fellucia Blow but, in her case, I am a little worried her paysite sales may decrease. We shall see.

Amazing how many ways a person can make money in this business, and equally amazing how difficult it can be for so many.

Barefootsies · 02-08-2010, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bman

Like Barefootsies says pound it out..

although I will say one thing that I have learned , the better organized you are the more you can sell.

1726cash · 01-08-2013, 09:41 PM

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notinmybackyard · 01-09-2013, 03:20 AM

Question.

I have been in this industry for more than 40 years. So I have a lot of old footage and videos that have been doing nothing for several years.

I like the concept and I like the idea of opening up another revenu source.

But I am wondering if there is a non american alternative.
(I am not trying to appear anti-american... There is not a lot of english spoken in my films. Also I am noticing that things are not what they used to be with the United States and many of my old school colleges are gone or dead. And the current american porn industry business climate appears to be a... zoo. )

kamionsofor · 02-02-2015, 08:55 AM

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