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Old 03-23-2009, 01:59 PM   #201
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:00 PM   #202
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Yah and that`s the difference between having peoples respect and just being another idiot with a porn site.
So it's all good because she's not one of the cool kids?
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:16 PM   #203
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Jesus - 5 pages? Jon Clark back?

1 thing: What damages you going to sue for? How are you going to prove those damages? How are you going to prove that anyone reading that mag is going to see that screenshot and associate it with your site? Almost no one here has ever been there, there was no URL in the shot, and the only real identifying thing they copied, the favicon, is so small that no one would go to your site, see the favicon and go "OH NOSES, this is that site that was in that XBiz article!"

They did a bad thing, but nothing you can sue over...this should have been a short first post mentioning they did it and it was not cool and that should have been that. But hey, waste your money, contact your lawyer...they'll be happy for the paycheck.
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So it's all good because she's not one of the cool kids?
It has nothing to do with being one of the cool kids.. Penny Flame is a long standing respected member of the adult industry and community

The O.P is neither. The O.P deserves nothing.

This claim is ridiculous even if Penny Flame had started this thread people would have given her the WTF face..
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It has nothing to do with being one of the cool kids.. Penny Flame is a long standing respected member of the adult industry and community

The O.P is neither. The O.P deserves nothing.
I guess I don't get the argument that because someone runs an indie site and doesn't post on gfy that they are not valid, and their intellectual property is null and void.

Nice to see Xbiz stepping up and admitting the copy. Even if it isn't an issue that world peace hinges on, most people here have built things that they don't want anyone else copying. I'd imagine that if someone has an idie site that is their 'baby' that the feelings are even stronger.
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As with all claims regarding XBIZ content, I have investigated this matter fully and did not want to comment before I had gotten the full facts of the situation. A new assistant art director did in fact take some small liberty with your website, using a partial screenshot of it within a larger derivative work that was produced for one of my articles.

There was no intention to compromise your intellectual property, he simply made a poor choice when the art assignments were handed down and your site happened to be on his monitor at the time.

As I am responsible for XBIZ World Magazine and all content within it, I apologize on behalf of XBIZ for any inconvenience this may have caused you.

Please note that I will also be publishing a written retraction in an upcoming edition of XBIZ World Magazine to further rectify the matter. While I can not undo what has been done, it is my intention to correct the error and to shed more positive light on your site which I hope helps it to generate increased sales in the future as well.

"no intention to compromise your intellectual property" What you stole the whole idea of her site and for that you must pay! (whole idea of a site "I'm lame and too lazy to shave")


"I will also be publishing a written retraction in an upcoming edition" no no she wants one billion dollars for defaming her likeness and rights


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It's seems absurd and funny when it happens to someone else, but I certainly wouldn't be thrilled either if I ran a barely-legal type of site and anything resembling it was shown as an example for an article about cp...
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I guess I don't get the argument that because someone runs an indie site and doesn't post on gfy that they are not valid, and their intellectual property is null and void.

Nice to see Xbiz stepping up and admitting the copy. Even if it isn't an issue that world peace hinges on, most people here have built things that they don't want anyone else copying. I'd imagine that if someone has an idie site that is their 'baby' that the feelings are even stronger.
You are being far too general. I am in this specific thread with this specific situation.

If Penny Flame made this thread obviously she would have gotten a nicer response. That`s life.

The O.P had a blowout at XBiz.

What`s funny is it`s likely the person who works at XBiz had her site open because he was a fan..

He`s probally kicking himself right now.. Actually I guarantee they had a good laugh about this at the xbiz offices...

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Professional response from XBiz, not that any of us expected anything less than that.

All the flaming, not necessary.. Agreed most of us aren't into furry but outside of that she's a very pretty girl. Funny thing is, she just doesn't put the pics forward on her tour that are the best ones (IMHO). If you take a look at some of the other pages she's actually quite attractive, less the body hair a similar appeal to Nina from the good 'ole days.

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I would have more sympathy for the O.P. if she did not blog shit like this about the adult industry. Shows what a cunt she is. Like she is so attractive she can call other people out on their looks. (eye roll)

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my first thought was clearly there is no monetary damage as a result of them stealing that button so there really wouldnt be an punitive damages you could receive in a court of law.

my second thought wasnt there a company trying to collect licensing fees for putting video on websites?

I dont know I'm not an attorney. But you know Madonna demonstrated this years ago bad publicity is just as profitable as good publicity.
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I would have more sympathy for the O.P. if she did not blog shit like this about the adult industry. Shows what a cunt she is. Like she is so attractive she can call other people out on their looks. (eye roll)

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I guess I don't get the argument that because someone runs an indie site and doesn't post on gfy that they are not valid, and their intellectual property is null and void.
Her site converts on a lot better ratio than you can imagine.
Xbiz has already said she was right - they ripped her off for an example of a pedo site.
God knows we've seen fully grown men cry about a lot less on here...

Shes a smart and tenacious lady that says what she thinks instead of crying "post proof or be banned."

And I remember how many guys were trolling her a few years ago at Internext Vegas.
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The O.P is neither. The O.P deserves nothing.

This claim is ridiculous even if Penny Flame had started this thread people would have given her the WTF face..
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Ahhhhh so xbiz did use your button for the screen cap. My apologies for the earlier threads where I thought you where a total wacko. But on this note... do you have any idea how much real pirating goes on? By real, I'm referring to actual theft of your personal content and created works in a way that the thief is actually using said booty for profit? Now, do you understand just how little of a chance anyone actually has of getting ANYTHING at all, other than that stuff pulled with DMCA.

Really, the reference here was so obscure that it was totally retarded. Even if you where right, (and you are) it even took someone to actually dig deeper to show that. What really where the chances that anyone, other than yourself and the xbiz designer would have ever even noticed.

With that said, coming here and claiming they owned you, contacting a lawyer, etc was REALLY going off the deep end. I'm actually very impressed with the xbiz reply and your going to be getting more form this that you should. That's a class act.

Admit fault, explain reason, offer resolution. No drama just good business. I have a feeling that unlike others who have been caught red handed, Xbiz will actually live up to their word.

Now it's just time for this thread to rest.
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Leave and Enter are obviously not words I hold a patent on. Like I said, I challenge anyone to find any other site with a splash page that uses the exact same font, wording, color scheme, and layout. That's not a random accident.

Am I the only webmaster who would be pissed off to see a large trade publication use MY WORK as an example kiddie porn graphic?
Before you posted this, nobody in the world would have made the link betwen your website and kiddie porn.

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I never claimed that I am the only person on the entire planet with leave/enter links on my web site. Keep focusing that red herring, though, and ignore the fact that no one else uses the same fonts and color scheme as what Xbiz ripped off from me. Like I said before, it's not white Verdana text on a black background or anything that is indistinguishable from most adult sites. It's obvious that they took a screen shot of my splash page, cut off the top 2/3s, and added their kiddie porn txt.
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nah, I stick by what I said, right or not, she OVER REACTED and saying that XBIZ OWES HER and she is contacting a lawyer was retarded.. But when I asked her if she ever wanted to do biz w XBiz or any webmasters on this board she said hell no, she doesn't need or want any affiliates from this board, so I hope she's happy. I'm sure her site got more hits in the last 2 days than it has in a month. I still think she could of handled it WAY BETTER..

and BTW, where is HER RESPONSE?
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nah, I stick by what I said, right or not, she OVER REACTED and saying that XBIZ OWES HER and she is contacting a lawyer was retarded.. But when I asked her if she ever wanted to do biz w XBiz or any webmasters on this board she said hell no, she doesn't need or want any affiliates from this board, so I hope she's happy. I'm sure her site got more hits in the last 2 days than it has in a month. I still think she could of handled it WAY BETTER..

and BTW, where is HER RESPONSE?
granted she over reacted,but how would you react to your sites graphics being chose as being a poster site for CP?
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nah, I stick by what I said, right or not, she OVER REACTED and saying that XBIZ OWES HER and she is contacting a lawyer was retarded.. But when I asked her if she ever wanted to do biz w XBiz or any webmasters on this board she said hell no, she doesn't need or want any affiliates from this board, so I hope she's happy. I'm sure her site got more hits in the last 2 days than it has in a month. I still think she could of handled it WAY BETTER..
Doesn't look like her attitude towards the industry is hurting her too awfull much:



As of a minute ago, according to Alexa:

Furrygirl.com 85,700
Aaliyahlove.com 255,184
Janeburgess.com 636,895

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Old 03-24-2009, 11:12 AM   #244
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:12 AM   #245
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Doesn't look like her attitude towards the industry is hurting her too awfull much:



As of a minute ago, according to Alexa:

Furrygirl.com 85,700
Aaliyahlove.com 255,184
Janeburgess.com 636,895

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Ouch.
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:31 AM   #246
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Doesn't look like her attitude towards the industry is hurting her too awfull much:



As of a minute ago, according to Alexa:

Furrygirl.com 85,700
Aaliyahlove.com 255,184
Janeburgess.com 636,895

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Old 03-24-2009, 11:41 AM   #247
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fact anyone knocking the hairy niche is not an adult webmaster.

you guys rag on ATK too?
nope I have np with ATK, I've been friends with Gunner over there for many years. I have no problem with the hairy niche its self.
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:57 AM   #248
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Doesn't look like her attitude towards the industry is hurting her too awfull much:



As of a minute ago, according to Alexa:

Furrygirl.com 85,700
Aaliyahlove.com 255,184
Janeburgess.com 636,895

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LOL, my site has been up for 4 months hun ;) And I still say she over reacted, despite what your Alexa ratings may say. She came on here bitching saying XBiz OWED her something..now she's twittering about finding a lawyer and suing them.. fn retarded.
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Is it just me, or are the girls getting the most vicious about this whole thing ?
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:24 PM   #250
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Doesn't look like her attitude towards the industry is hurting her too awfull much:



As of a minute ago, according to Alexa:

Furrygirl.com 85,700
Aaliyahlove.com 255,184
Janeburgess.com 636,895

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Everyone with a brain knows Alexa is not right with stats and has not been for a long time. I do not have one issue with her niche. You will not find one place where I make fun of her looks at all. I have an issue with her disrespect of the industry.
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