Starting an Affiliate Program - CCBill or Epoch? - GoFuckYourself.com

BFT3K · 04-12-2009, 10:34 AM

Any webmaster advice appreciated.

Does either provide better/easier tools?

Does it matter, from an affiliate's standpoint?

Thanks in advance!

sortie · 04-12-2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Any webmaster advice appreciated.

Does either provide better/easier tools?

Does it matter, from an affiliate's standpoint?

Thanks in advance!

Because of failing sponsors in a rough climate I prefer to use CCBill sites that
only use the CCbill affiliate software. No cascading to other billing.
None of my info on the sponsor's site.

Further if you don't have hosted flvs then there is zero chance I will ever use your
site.

BV · 04-12-2009, 11:03 AM

Really this is not even a question. CCBill by far.

PornDiscounts-R · 04-12-2009, 11:03 AM

CCBill for sure.

And with the new admin and tools coming out soon, it will be even better

commonsense · 04-12-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Because of failing sponsors in a rough climate I prefer to use CCBill sites that
only use the CCbill affiliate software. No cascading to other billing.
None of my info on the sponsor's site.

Further if you don't have hosted flvs then there is zero chance I will ever use your
site.

The majority of affiliates that make sales DO NOT use or need flvs, much less hosted flvs.

BFT3K, it more or less depends on the type of sites. But in most cases go with CCBill. Fact is there are many more affiliates that use and trust CCBill. And every affiliate on earth has a ccbill account

PornDiscounts-R · 04-12-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

Really this is not even a question. CCBill by far.

Glad to see we agree on that one

btw, just signed up for your program like an hour ago and will add all 4 sites to my latest project in a bit

seeandsee · 04-12-2009, 11:06 AM

CCbill from me

BV · 04-12-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thebestamateur

Glad to see we agree on that one

btw, just signed up for your program like an hour ago and will add all 4 sites to my latest project in a bit

Super. May the force be with you.

BFT3K · 04-12-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

No cascading to other billing. None of my info on the sponsor's site.

Please elaborate. Thanks...

commonsense · 04-12-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Please elaborate. Thanks...

Don't listen to him, its obvious he's an idiot.

BFT3K · 04-12-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

Don't listen to him, its obvious he's an idiot.

Okay, thanks!

Manowar · 04-12-2009, 11:17 AM

go with ccbill

BFT3K · 04-12-2009, 11:24 AM

Okay, thanks everyone. Looks like CCBill is the clear winner!

Any advice about Epoch as a second biller, in a cascade?

Is it worth the $750 per additional biller?

Barefootsies · 04-12-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

The majority of affiliates that make sales DO NOT use or need flvs, much less hosted flvs.

Bhunter · 04-12-2009, 11:28 AM

ccbill cascaded with segpay works great.

HorseShit · 04-12-2009, 11:43 AM

they are both good companies and their rates are very similar

Kiwigirl · 04-12-2009, 11:54 AM

Nothing against the other company you mentioned but I am a fond Ccbill supporter.

MrDeiz · 04-12-2009, 12:13 PM

CCBill for sure

better billing, better for affiliates

alexchechs · 04-12-2009, 12:30 PM

CCBill has been good for us and using third party tools such as CCB Tools works well. Plus with CCBill you can always set Epoch on your cascading billing so it's a Win Win situation.

blonda80 · 04-12-2009, 12:32 PM

ccbill

Barefootsies · 04-12-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by daizzzy

CCBill for sure

better billing, better for affiliates

sortie · 04-12-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

The majority of affiliates that make sales DO NOT use or need flvs, much less hosted flvs.

True dude, no one would argue that.
But I already have enough sponsors, I've been with some going on 10 years now.
So why try a new sponsor unless they can offer me something exceptional.

I mean, if I had your pay site banner up for 10 years then why would I take it
down or move it to try something else?

AGS-17 · 04-12-2009, 01:56 PM

CCBILL Only

2MuchMark · 04-12-2009, 02:14 PM

Both are cool

bbm · 04-12-2009, 02:56 PM

I think - Epoch

Gaybucks · 04-13-2009, 10:53 PM

We've been with both, we've had both as primary billers.

There's simply no comparison. CCBill is simply extraordinary.

No BS, no runarounds, no excuses. I can't say the same for the competition.

As for using CCBill as primary and cascading to Epoch or Segpay, that would probably be fine.

However, if you are just starting out and don't have the volume to justify the extra Visa fee, it probably doesn't make sense to do that right now; a large % of the declines we're seeing are NSF from debit cards, and the other big % is basic declines (which usually means card over limit) so those customers aren't going to get approved on another biller's cascade anyway.

In 6 months or a year when you have some volume, then it might make sense to go with an alternate biller in cascade.

Iron Fist · 04-13-2009, 10:59 PM

Go Epoch!!!!!

NO.....

JUST JOKES!!!!

CCBILL only!

Epoch is only for those who want to lose all their affiliates because their backend sucks balls. I wonder how long it will be until I make ONE sale with SpookyCash since them moving from CCbill to Epoch.... just sayin.

BFT3K · 04-15-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Epoch is only for those who want to lose all their affiliates because their backend sucks balls. I wonder how long it will be until I make ONE sale with SpookyCash since them moving from CCbill to Epoch.... just sayin.

So if you set up CCBill as the primary, and you offer a CCBill affiliate program, then using Epoch as a secondary will piss off your affiliates? How is that? Is it better to not have a secondary biller at all? What about SegPay as a secondary? Same thing?

BV · 04-15-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

So if you set up CCBill as the primary, and you offer a CCBill affiliate program, then using Epoch as a secondary will piss off your affiliates? How is that? Is it better to not have a secondary biller at all? What about SegPay as a secondary? Same thing?

That won't piss anyone off. CCbill is integrated with Epoch for cascading.

But seriously, cascade billing is over rated. It doesn't increase sales by any serious amount. So for increasing sales it has minimal effects. <1%

Now if you are larger and looking to spread your eggs out and rotate primary billers, then yah go for it. I am pretty sure you can even do that with CCBill's script. ie: run epoch as primary and ccbill second.

BFT3K · 04-15-2009, 11:44 PM

I've been told that if a person joins a CCBill site, opting for a recurring billing option, but then cancels before any rebilling occurs, that CCBill's merchant bank will flag that person for committing a form of fraud. Then, whenever that person attempts to join another CCBill site, they will be rejected. With no secondary processor as a back-up, you will simply lose the sale.

Is there any truth to this, or is this misinformation?

BV · 04-16-2009, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

I've been told that if a person joins a CCBill site, opting for a recurring billing option, but then cancels before any rebilling occurs, that CCBill's merchant bank will flag that person for committing a form of fraud. Then, whenever that person attempts to join another CCBill site, they will be rejected. With no secondary processor as a back-up, you will simply lose the sale.

Is there any truth to this, or is this misinformation?

that's bullshit

i have countless members that join and cancel and join and cancel over years

NinjaSteve · 04-16-2009, 02:30 AM

Why not use Nats + Paycom?

tornell · 04-16-2009, 03:15 AM

primary ccbill, backup epoch

CarlosTheGaucho · 04-16-2009, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

But in most cases go with CCBill. Fact is there are many more affiliates that use and trust CCBill. And every affiliate on earth has a ccbill account

That's correct,

I would also add:

- hassle free administration (maybe I'm not a typical user since I used to be a geek) but I sure admire the software for its easy to get in interface and many practical functionalities that are easy to understand

- hassle free support (only one single very much minor thing that ever happened and didn't affect the finance in any way)

But yes, it's by far mainly a question of trust and guaranteed payouts.

Theoretically you HAVE TO get better conversions and $ / 1000 uniques with a suitable cascade, but even then it's always good to have a ccbill option as an alternative.

Although I don't understand it from the affiliate and common sense point of view, then again, if many fuck and fucked someone in the ass in the past, it's not that easy to reset the memory.

CarlosTheGaucho · 04-16-2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

Now if you are larger and looking to spread your eggs out and rotate primary billers, then yah go for it. I am pretty sure you can even do that with CCBill's script. ie: run epoch as primary and ccbill second.

I'm not sure about this, that wouldn't make that much sense.

I know for sure that if you want to use the Epoch's affiliate back end (trimmed MPA3) you have to use Epoch as primary.

Makes sense to me.

Joshua G · 04-16-2009, 04:57 AM

i've been using CCBill for years, no problemo. In fact CCbill makes me feel warm & fuzzy that the site i'm signing up for is legit.

SBJ · 04-16-2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaybucks

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As for using CCBill as primary and cascading to Epoch or Segpay, that would probably be fine.

However, if you are just starting out and don't have the volume to justify the extra Visa fee, it probably doesn't make sense to do that right now; a large % of the declines we're seeing are NSF from debit cards, and the other big % is basic declines (which usually means card over limit) so those customers aren't going to get approved on another biller's cascade anyway.

In 6 months or a year when you have some volume, then it might make sense to go with an alternate biller in cascade.

Yup I agree with this. Just starting out there is no need to spend the extra $750 but as you traffic and number of sites grow then sure add a cascade via ccbill and you will see results. I'm thinking the next solo girl site I launch I will add the cascade option myself.

I love ccbill and would never use anything else!

rayadp05 · 04-16-2009, 05:23 AM

I have been using CCBill for my affiliate program for years now and have never had any problems at all and the affiliates are very happy with it as CCBill is a name that you can trust and is also very well known. Not to say that Epoch is not a well known company but I say, your best bet is to go with CCBill.

selena · 04-16-2009, 06:31 AM

Taking off my program rep hat for a moment, and speaking 100% as an affiliate...

hands down CCBill.

Quick reasons are trust factor, and ability to promote different sponsors without having to worry about meeting the minimum of each. Though you may be able to do that w/ Epoch, I don't know.

skrinkladoo · 04-16-2009, 06:34 AM

wow, i didnt realize how popular ccbill became.

FrozenJag · 04-16-2009, 06:47 AM

Sorry for being slightly off topic but has anyone used Zombaio? Their way way lower fees are enticing. Plus the 0 dollar startup instead of 750.

Im trying to make some of the same decisions as the thread starter only im going to use NATS so not worried about the affiliate tracking part of the processors.

Any thoughts?

Kron · 04-16-2009, 06:50 AM

one more vote for ccbill

BFT3K · 04-16-2009, 08:41 AM

I've been told that if a person joins a CCBill site, opting for a recurring billing option, but then cancels before any rebilling occurs, that CCBill's merchant bank will flag that person for committing a form of fraud. Then, whenever that person attempts to join another CCBill site, they will be rejected. With no secondary processor as a back-up, you will simply lose the sale.

Is there any truth to this, or is this misinformation?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

that's bullshit

i have countless members that join and cancel and join and cancel over years

Thanks BV. The information above was actually told to me by a representative at one of the non-CCBill payment processors I've been communicating with, so your response is very interesting.

I would rather not pay $750 for another processor, but if I do add another biller they would have to work with my upcoming CCBill affiliate program, so Epoch and/or SegPay seem to be the only options.

I will say this; around 3 weeks ago I removed a second billing option from my join page, based upon the recent credibility of that processor (not Epoch or SegPay). With ONLY CCBill on my join page, sales have dropped over 25% since then, with no other changes whatsoever, so it is easy to believe a second biller is important, but from the replies on this thread, that does not seem to be the case. Still a mystery regarding the past 3 weeks however, so I am left scratching my head.

whatif_3 · 04-16-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

Sorry for being slightly off topic but has anyone used Zombaio? Their way way lower fees are enticing. Plus the 0 dollar startup instead of 750.

Im trying to make some of the same decisions as the thread starter only im going to use NATS so not worried about the affiliate tracking part of the processors.

Any thoughts?

why would you trust some no-name with your $ in an industry where 95% of the billing companies have gone under taking peoples money with them?

you save a few pennies but risk losing 60% of your business

webmasterchecks · 04-16-2009, 09:50 AM

ccbill was the xbiz winner 2 years in a row

great people over there, we dealt with them with the phx forum sponsorships over the past few months, ron, sherri, nick, amazing service oriented company

do not know much about epoch, but why look elsewhere when you are dealing with such a high caliber company thats been the billing flagship for 10+ years?

FrozenJag · 04-16-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by whatif_3

why would you trust some no-name with your $ in an industry where 95% of the billing companies have gone under taking peoples money with them?

you save a few pennies but risk losing 60% of your business

I agree, at this point I am leary of them, but thats one of the reasons im looking for other peoples experiences.

If all experiences are great then it would be a tough decision not to try them out.

BV · 04-16-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

I've been told that if a person joins a CCBill site, opting for a recurring billing option, but then cancels before any rebilling occurs, that CCBill's merchant bank will flag that person for committing a form of fraud. Then, whenever that person attempts to join another CCBill site, they will be rejected. With no secondary processor as a back-up, you will simply lose the sale.

Is there any truth to this, or is this misinformation?

Thanks BV. The information above was actually told to me by a representative at one of the non-CCBill payment processors I've been communicating with, so your response is very interesting.

I would rather not pay $750 for another processor, but if I do add another biller they would have to work with my upcoming CCBill affiliate program, so Epoch and/or SegPay seem to be the only options.

I will say this; around 3 weeks ago I removed a second billing option from my join page, based upon the recent credibility of that processor (not Epoch or SegPay). With ONLY CCBill on my join page, sales have dropped over 25% since then, with no other changes whatsoever, so it is easy to believe a second biller is important, but from the replies on this thread, that does not seem to be the case. Still a mystery regarding the past 3 weeks however, so I am left scratching my head.

Probably just a trend, sales go up and down, lately more down, and there is no way to say nothing has changed. Think about it. It has changed. You don't have the same surfers hitting your site every day, it's a revolving door of new surfers and a constant volatile changing economy day by day.

BV · 04-16-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

I'm not sure about this, that wouldn't make that much sense.

I know for sure that if you want to use the Epoch's affiliate back end (trimmed MPA3) you have to use Epoch as primary.

Makes sense to me.

Well I double checked and yes you can, I just looked at the traffic manager admin again and yes it is possible.

Furthermore all payments to affiliates are still made by CCBill.

Pretty cool huh?

Tanker · 04-16-2009, 12:18 PM

I would say use CCBill as your primary and when you have enough business to justify adding another processor integrate one of the processors that CCBill will cascade to and give your affiliate the credit for the sale.

If you have any questions about running a CCBill program feel free to hit me up anytime, I am always online!

GothBuXXX · 04-16-2009, 12:24 PM

Well I have an Epoch Program so maybe I am biased.
I don't see what is wrong with epoch at all?
Honestly the only reason it might not be as good is because ccbill is just known better.
epochs sales are equal to ccbills in my experience....after all the customer doesn't care.
However, affiliates are obviously opinionated and so that is something to consider

04-12-2009, 10:34 AM	#1
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Starting an Affiliate Program - CCBill or Epoch? Any webmaster advice appreciated. Does either provide better/easier tools? Does it matter, from an affiliate's standpoint? Thanks in advance!

04-12-2009, 11:03 AM	#4
PornDiscounts-R Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,272	CCBill for sure. And with the new admin and tools coming out soon, it will be even better __________________ Email# rasmus(you*know)porndiscounts.com

04-12-2009, 11:06 AM	#7
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04-12-2009, 11:54 AM	#17
Kiwigirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,556	Nothing against the other company you mentioned but I am a fond Ccbill supporter. __________________ KIWISOURCING OUTSOURCING WITH A TWIST!

04-12-2009, 12:13 PM	#18
MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	CCBill for sure better billing, better for affiliates __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

04-12-2009, 11:03 AM	#3
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	Really this is not even a question. CCBill by far.

04-12-2009, 11:17 AM	#12
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	go with ccbill

04-12-2009, 11:24 AM	#13
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Okay, thanks everyone. Looks like CCBill is the clear winner! Any advice about Epoch as a second biller, in a cascade? Is it worth the $750 per additional biller?

04-12-2009, 11:28 AM	#15
Bhunter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,119	ccbill cascaded with segpay works great.

04-12-2009, 11:43 AM	#16
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	they are both good companies and their rates are very similar

04-12-2009, 12:30 PM	#19
alexchechs Confirmed User Join Date: May 2008 Location: BROOKLYN!!! Posts: 3,474	CCBill has been good for us and using third party tools such as CCB Tools works well. Plus with CCBill you can always set Epoch on your cascading billing so it's a Win Win situation. __________________ Alex Chechs http://thefawnconspiracy.com

04-12-2009, 12:32 PM	#20
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04-12-2009, 01:56 PM	#23
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04-12-2009, 02:14 PM	#24
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04-12-2009, 02:56 PM	#25
bbm So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,710	I think - Epoch

04-13-2009, 10:53 PM	#26
Gaybucks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 451	We've been with both, we've had both as primary billers. There's simply no comparison. CCBill is simply extraordinary. No BS, no runarounds, no excuses. I can't say the same for the competition. As for using CCBill as primary and cascading to Epoch or Segpay, that would probably be fine. However, if you are just starting out and don't have the volume to justify the extra Visa fee, it probably doesn't make sense to do that right now; a large % of the declines we're seeing are NSF from debit cards, and the other big % is basic declines (which usually means card over limit) so those customers aren't going to get approved on another biller's cascade anyway. In 6 months or a year when you have some volume, then it might make sense to go with an alternate biller in cascade. __________________ Gaybucks.com 100% exclusive American guys - hosted movie galleries - NATS - Boyfunk.com - Boysfeetclub.com - AJsCloset.com- SkylerDeVoss.com ICQ 272-995-402

04-13-2009, 10:59 PM	#27
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Go Epoch!!!!! NO..... JUST JOKES!!!! CCBILL only! Epoch is only for those who want to lose all their affiliates because their backend sucks balls. I wonder how long it will be until I make ONE sale with SpookyCash since them moving from CCbill to Epoch.... just sayin. __________________ i like waffles

04-15-2009, 11:44 PM	#30
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	I've been told that if a person joins a CCBill site, opting for a recurring billing option, but then cancels before any rebilling occurs, that CCBill's merchant bank will flag that person for committing a form of fraud. Then, whenever that person attempts to join another CCBill site, they will be rejected. With no secondary processor as a back-up, you will simply lose the sale. Is there any truth to this, or is this misinformation?

04-16-2009, 02:30 AM	#32
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	Why not use Nats + Paycom? __________________ ...

04-16-2009, 03:15 AM	#33
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04-16-2009, 04:57 AM	#36
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	i've been using CCBill for years, no problemo. In fact CCbill makes me feel warm & fuzzy that the site i'm signing up for is legit.

04-16-2009, 05:23 AM	#38
rayadp05 TRUEAMATEURMODELS.COM Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TrueAmateurModels.com Posts: 4,187	I have been using CCBill for my affiliate program for years now and have never had any problems at all and the affiliates are very happy with it as CCBill is a name that you can trust and is also very well known. Not to say that Epoch is not a well known company but I say, your best bet is to go with CCBill. __________________ TrueAmateurModels.com Twitter TrueAmateurModels.com Affiliate Program Last edited by rayadp05; 04-16-2009 at 05:24 AM..

04-16-2009, 06:31 AM	#39
selena Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On The Edge Posts: 7,992	Taking off my program rep hat for a moment, and speaking 100% as an affiliate... hands down CCBill. Quick reasons are trust factor, and ability to promote different sponsors without having to worry about meeting the minimum of each. Though you may be able to do that w/ Epoch, I don't know. __________________ ~ Doer of Things at MetArtMoney Where Flawless Beauty Meets Art ~The MetArt Network ~ selena.delgado9

04-16-2009, 06:34 AM	#40
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04-16-2009, 06:47 AM	#41
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	Sorry for being slightly off topic but has anyone used Zombaio? Their way way lower fees are enticing. Plus the 0 dollar startup instead of 750. Im trying to make some of the same decisions as the thread starter only im going to use NATS so not worried about the affiliate tracking part of the processors. Any thoughts?

04-16-2009, 06:50 AM	#42
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04-16-2009, 09:50 AM	#45
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04-16-2009, 12:18 PM	#49
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	I would say use CCBill as your primary and when you have enough business to justify adding another processor integrate one of the processors that CCBill will cascade to and give your affiliate the credit for the sale. If you have any questions about running a CCBill program feel free to hit me up anytime, I am always online! __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE

04-16-2009, 12:24 PM	#50
GothBuXXX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 54	Well I have an Epoch Program so maybe I am biased. I don't see what is wrong with epoch at all? Honestly the only reason it might not be as good is because ccbill is just known better. epochs sales are equal to ccbills in my experience....after all the customer doesn't care. However, affiliates are obviously opinionated and so that is something to consider __________________ Morphing RSS Feeds / Download Video Content Zipped galleries / FHG's with different templates / much more Epoch Affiliate Program List - Do it all from one site.