Palin stepping down as Alaska Gov.

[CyberHustler]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/03/palin/index.html

[BVF]

Bye Bitch!!! Let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

[ContentSHOOTER]

Originally Posted by BVF

Bye Bitch!!! Let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

[BlackCrayon]

either some kind of scandle is going to come out of this or she is going to bigger places. time will tell....

[CyberHustler]

She's so freakin' sexy... I hope she goes into porn. I wanna shoot a POV scene with her...

[WebairGerard]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

either some kind of scandle is going to come out of this or she is going to bigger places. time will tell....

will be interesting to see what transpires.

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

She's so freakin' sexy... I hope she goes into porn. I wanna shoot a POV scene with her...

now that would be killer

[baddog]

oh man . . . .

[TheDoc]

Palin abused her powers and is getting railed for it... simple as that.

[BradM]

President Palin, 2012. Sorry folks, it will happen. U raff u roose.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/03/palin/index.html

palin eats my shorts

[Darrah]

Originally Posted by BradM

President Palin, 2012. Sorry folks, it will happen. U raff u roose.

She was never qualified for Mayor, Governor, or Vice President. What makes you think she would even be allowed to be a serious presidential candidate? I read how she didn't know what to do as Mayor and they had to hire an administrator to run the city while she was just the talking head.

[kane]

Just saw this. Interesting. I think she will do one of two things and I think how well her book sells will help determine that.

If her book sells well she will start putting together a group that will help her make a run at the presidency in 2012. I think she will see the good book sales as a sign that there is still interest in her nationally.

If the book doesn't sell as well as she would like (or if Obama is still polling very highly and looks impossible to beat) then she might run for the Senate in Alaska. There is a lot of rumor that Lisa Murkowski who is currently a Senator from Alaska will run for Governor (polls even showed her crushing Palin). If that happens Palin might run for the Senate seat, serve there and get some national exposure then if Obama wins a second term run for President in 2016.

I guess it is also possible that her 15 minutes are up and after her book comes out she fades aways.

[pornguy]

I pray she does not ever even get to visit the white house.

[Darrah]

Originally Posted by kane

Just saw this. Interesting. I think she will do one of two things and I think how well her book sells will help determine that.

If her book sells well she will start putting together a group that will help her make a run at the presidency in 2012. I think she will see the good book sales as a sign that there is still interest in her nationally.

If the book doesn't sell as well as she would like (or if Obama is still polling very highly and looks impossible to beat) then she might run for the Senate in Alaska. There is a lot of rumor that Lisa Murkowski who is currently a Senator from Alaska will run for Governor (polls even showed her crushing Palin). If that happens Palin might run for the Senate seat, serve there and get some national exposure then if Obama wins a second term run for President in 2016.

I guess it is also possible that her 15 minutes are up and after her book comes out she fades aways.

A woman who couldn't name the newspapers or books she was currently reading is writing a book? Interesting ....

[LAJ]

Bfd......

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

either some kind of scandle is going to come out of this or she is going to bigger places. time will tell....

I heard she has something to do with Micheal Jackson's death, but don't say you heard it from me

[kane]

Originally Posted by Darrah

A woman who couldn't name the newspapers or books she was currently reading is writing a book? Interesting ....

Lol. It reminds me of something Howard Stern once said when he said, " Look, I have only ever read two books in my life. . . but I have written two books so I am even."

It will be interesting to see just what her book has in it. Will she go the route where she portrays herself as the All-American woman who overcame the odds to get where she is or will she bitterly attack those she blames for her problems? I have a feeling it will be a little of both. I think she will paint herself as this great person who got used and wrongly attacked and she will use this story of herself as a launching pad for a presidential campaign. I can't see any way she could get out of the primaries, but that doesn't mean she won't try.

[JenniDahling]

Originally Posted by smutnut

I heard she has something to do with Micheal Jackson's death, but don't say you heard it from me

It wasn't her that killed him, it was... the tubes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by BradM

President Palin, 2012. Sorry folks, it will happen. U raff u roose.

Dude, she just killed any chance of that happening, the only support she had would not be happy that she quit in the middle of a term but she does make for great political entertainment, so I hope she attempts to run...

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Darrah

A woman who couldn't name the newspapers or books she was currently reading is writing a book? Interesting ....

Belive it

[BradM]

This is America. You don't have to know anything, do anything or be good at anything to be rich, famous or a politician.

Palin 2012.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by LAJ

Bfd......

You should be very afraid.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by BradM

President Palin, 2012. Sorry folks, it will happen. U raff u roose.

it'll never happen just like a black man will never be president.. err wait.. Oh shit we have a black president!

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by SBJ

it'll never happen just like a black man will never be president.. err wait.. Oh shit we have a black president!

He's an oreo though... The negro community won't be happy until we have somebody who looks like this in office:

[Thomas1007]

she needs to get into porn and make some $$.
Then use that to run her campaign

[collegeboobies]

hopefully the world is too smart to ever elect her again.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

either some kind of scandle is going to come out of this or she is going to bigger places. time will tell....

Umm you don't quit mid term to go on to something bigger unless you are going into a higher office at that point. Quitting mid term is death to any future plans for high govt office.

If she is quitting mid term there is something is going on most likely yet "another" scandle involving her.

[marketsmart]

i heard her daughter is pregnant once again and she is the father..

[nation-x]

I think resigning as governor killed any chance she has at national office... seriously. Any opponent will slam her constantly with "When it was hot in the kitchen and she had ambitions to do other things she broke her commitment to Alaskans by resigning." That is a killer for her.

[JP513]

Originally Posted by BVF

Bye Bitch!!! Let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

She's not going anywhere homie.

[BradM]

Originally Posted by nation-x

I think resigning as governor killed any chance she has at national office... seriously. Any opponent will slam her constantly with "When it was hot in the kitchen and she had ambitions to do other things she broke her commitment to Alaskans by resigning." That is a killer for her.

This means nothing to "voters"

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by baddog

You should be very afraid.

Nah, you should be.

[STAROTICA]

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Fucking hell. Hopefully she'll start a home candle business or something.

[who]

Originally Posted by BradM

This is America. You don't have to know anything, do anything or be good at anything to be rich, famous or a politician.

Palin 2012.

Quite so.

[Drake]

The posts in this thread are all kinds of funny

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by nation-x

I think resigning as governor killed any chance she has at national office... seriously. Any opponent will slam her constantly with "When it was hot in the kitchen and she had ambitions to do other things she broke her commitment to Alaskans by resigning." That is a killer for her.

On the upside, I see a Tina Fey guest appearance on SNL very soon!

[Rochard]

Whoot whoot!

[IllTestYourGirls]

Thank god I did not want to see her mega-fail run for prez in 2012

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Thank god I did not want to see her mega-fail run for prez in 2012

[BobG]

Originally Posted by BradM

This means nothing to "voters"

Exactly! Majority of the voters know everything they know about politics from TV, which is crap information and mostly biased. Then they vote based on who they identify with most or against who they identify with least. Doesn't matter what she does, if she runs, close to half of the idiots will vote for her and will tell you all about why they did based on what they know from TV when in fact they know shit about her nor any of these people nor what goes on in Washington or any government for that matter.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by BobG

Exactly! Majority of the voters know everything they know about politics from TV, which is crap information and mostly biased. Then they vote based on who they identify with most or against who they identify with least. Doesn't matter what she does, if she runs, close to half of the idiots will vote for her and will tell you all about why they did based on what they know from TV when in fact they know shit about her nor any of these people nor what goes on in Washington or any government for that matter.

You assume she will get support from the GOP establishment... without that support she is toast.

[BobG]

Originally Posted by nation-x

You assume she will get support from the GOP establishment... without that support she is toast.

I don't assume that actually. I don't know how that works or what tricks, which party has up their sleeves and how they go about pitching a candidate, aside from what I see and hear on tv. If I was really interested I would move to Washington or carefully monitor cspan on a daily basis or something. Guess I'm not though, so I just use stuff I hear on TV that I perceive to be substance (because I hear it on tv so it must be true) to sound like I'm knowledgeable and actually know what I'm talking about to my friends and on message boards. At the end of the day, since I truly don't know shit about politics nor what goes on in Washington, I vote for the guy who I personally like the most but I tell everyone that I voted for him based on shit I heard on tv.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by BobG

I don't assume that actually. I don't know how that works or what tricks, which party has up their sleeves and how they go about pitching a candidate, aside from what I see and hear on tv. If I was really interested I would move to Washington or carefully monitor cspan on a daily basis or something. Guess I'm not though, so I just use stuff I hear on TV that I perceive to be substance (because I hear it on tv so it must be true) to sound like I'm knowledgeable and actually know what I'm talking about to my friends and on message boards. At the end of the day, since I truly don't know shit about politics nor what goes on in Washington, I vote for the guy who I personally like the most but I tell everyone that I voted for him based on shit I heard on tv.

The party establishment ensures fund raising opportunity... without their support most candidates have a hard time raising enough money for a competitive race.

[BobG]

Originally Posted by nation-x

The party establishment ensures fund raising opportunity... without their support most candidates have a hard time raising enough money for a competitive race.

I see. Well, judging by how full of shit she sounded and how much smoke she was blowing up everyone's asses during that speech on the day before the 4th of July, something's up and it's probably big.

[CyberHustler]

I'd still get her pregnant...

[MovieMaster]

Here is the reality of what shes going to be doing...


If she is really going to become a national figure and use her natural charisma which most politicians would kill for, much like obama who also didnt do shit in terms political achievement, gets elected and leaves 2 years into his senate campaign, ran against no one because he got all his competition thrown off the ballot and won election without any competition. Blame Ditka for that one, and if your saying bullshit look it up. Anywho here is the most logical and smartest move she could make.

1. Shes going to have to move and take up residence in the lower 48 and become a pivotal speaking figure and playing the political game by raising money for other politicians ie Romney Tim Pawlenty or Romney JIndal in 2012 I think he is the most realistic candidate to run in 2012 at this point.

2. She would prob take a cabinet position job beefing up her street cred, and sharpening her political insider effectiveness while balancing and maintaining her authenticity which is what got her so much attention. Shes not gonna float you some BS political answer for the most part...

3. She will probably be best geared for a serious run come 2016-2020 since shes so young... She has plenty of time to become a player for years to come.

The only reason I truly think she was such a target is the left knew she was right over the target and they were very afraid of her... Why else would they attack as they did...

You can give me some line like she deserved it blah blah blah.... cut the bullshit... Its the same reason why the right went after barack... He speaks well off a prompter and has charisma which any politician anywhere in the world would die for, and I think undoubtly what really won him the election... well that and democrats great job at making it socially cool to demonize bush which made it easier... Much like the republicans did during the vietnam war against LBJ so it made it that much easier for a political swing to the other side Nixon / Ford .


But hey thats my logic of how she would play it unless the climate was right for a run in 2012 but Romney seems positioned to give Obama one hell of a fight. Remember politics is all about timing.

[kane]

Originally Posted by MovieMaster

Here is the reality of what shes going to be doing...


If she is really going to become a national figure and use her natural charisma which most politicians would kill for, much like obama who also didnt do shit in terms political achievement, gets elected and leaves 2 years into his senate campaign, ran against no one because he got all his competition thrown off the ballot and won election without any competition. Blame Ditka for that one, and if your saying bullshit look it up. Anywho here is the most logical and smartest move she could make.

1. Shes going to have to move and take up residence in the lower 48 and become a pivotal speaking figure and playing the political game by raising money for other politicians ie Romney Tim Pawlenty or Romney JIndal in 2012 I think he is the most realistic candidate to run in 2012 at this point.

2. She would prob take a cabinet position job beefing up her street cred, and sharpening her political insider effectiveness while balancing and maintaining her authenticity which is what got her so much attention. Shes not gonna float you some BS political answer for the most part...

3. She will probably be best geared for a serious run come 2016-2020 since shes so young... She has plenty of time to become a player for years to come.

The only reason I truly think she was such a target is the left knew she was right over the target and they were very afraid of her... Why else would they attack as they did...

You can give me some line like she deserved it blah blah blah.... cut the bullshit... Its the same reason why the right went after barack... He speaks well off a prompter and has charisma which any politician anywhere in the world would die for, and I think undoubtly what really won him the election... well that and democrats great job at making it socially cool to demonize bush which made it easier... Much like the republicans did during the vietnam war against LBJ so it made it that much easier for a political swing to the other side Nixon / Ford .


But hey thats my logic of how she would play it unless the climate was right for a run in 2012 but Romney seems positioned to give Obama one hell of a fight. Remember politics is all about timing.

For sure she is going to have to leave Alaska and move somewhere where she can get easier access to the rest of the country without having huge trips. I still think she might run for the senate seat coming up in Alaska. If that person runs for governor she could run for the senate seat. If she wins that puts her in Washington a lot and she can use that as a base of operations to get out to the different states. Plus it gives her more experience on a national level.

Realistically how the 2012 election goes is all in Obama's hands. If three years from now things are good and he is popular it won't matter who runs against him because they will lose. It is very difficult to beat an incumbent president to begin with. It is nearly impossible if things are going well and he is popular.

If things aren't going well and his popularity has slipped he could be vulnerable, but that would still mean that the republicans would only have three years to get their shit together and right now their party is in shambles. Romney has money and a name, but if Obama is poised to crush whoever goes up against him he may not even run in 2012. If you run once and lose, especially if you get crushed it is almost impossible to overcome that so he might wait until 2016 as well.

That said I still see Palin as a Huckabee kind of candidate. she can do really well in the bible belt states, but when you eventually leave those states and move into the more progressive states it is hard for severe right wingers (and make no mistake that is exactly what she is) to do well. Her biggest problem is that to half the country she is folksy and they find her charming. The other half think she is annoying and dumb. It will be very hard for her to overcome that.

[MovieMaster]

Originally Posted by kane

For sure she is going to have to leave Alaska and move somewhere where she can get easier access to the rest of the country without having huge trips. I still think she might run for the senate seat coming up in Alaska. If that person runs for governor she could run for the senate seat. If she wins that puts her in Washington a lot and she can use that as a base of operations to get out to the different states. Plus it gives her more experience on a national level.

Realistically how the 2012 election goes is all in Obama's hands. If three years from now things are good and he is popular it won't matter who runs against him because they will lose. It is very difficult to beat an incumbent president to begin with. It is nearly impossible if things are going well and he is popular.

If things aren't going well and his popularity has slipped he could be vulnerable, but that would still mean that the republicans would only have three years to get their shit together and right now their party is in shambles. Romney has money and a name, but if Obama is poised to crush whoever goes up against him he may not even run in 2012. If you run once and lose, especially if you get crushed it is almost impossible to overcome that so he might wait until 2016 as well.

That said I still see Palin as a Huckabee kind of candidate. she can do really well in the bible belt states, but when you eventually leave those states and move into the more progressive states it is hard for severe right wingers (and make no mistake that is exactly what she is) to do well. Her biggest problem is that to half the country she is folksy and they find her charming. The other half think she is annoying and dumb. It will be very hard for her to overcome that.

I think people throw the term right winger around tooo losely... definitely conservative but not a right winger... I think right winger as extreme right.

I think everyone is a fiscal conservative unless you live in a democratic state thats broke... cali, ny, illinois, hawaii, pa .... and just blow too much money on govt programs.

If obama loses on anything I see it being economy and national security. Romney would be ideal if economy is still fucked up... BTW I dont like Romney but politically he sits in the drivers seat.

[kane]

Originally Posted by MovieMaster

I think people throw the term right winger around tooo losely... definitely conservative but not a right winger... I think right winger as extreme right.

I think everyone is a fiscal conservative unless you live in a democratic state thats broke... cali, ny, illinois, hawaii, pa .... and just blow too much money on govt programs.

If obama loses on anything I see it being economy and national security. Romney would be ideal if economy is still fucked up... BTW I dont like Romney but politically he sits in the drivers seat.

Well, I have to disagree about her being a hard right winger. She is pro life. So much so that she knew early on that her baby would have down syndrome and kept it (not that other people wouldn't have done the same, but many would have chose not to keep it.) And she has said that abortion is one of the worst crimes a person can commit. She is for teaching abstinence only even when those teachings prove that they do not work. She is very pro-gun and pro-hunting. She is anti gay rights and supports a states rights to deny job benefits to same sex couples. that is pretty freaking conservative if you ask me. I don't know what else you have to believe in to be a right winger.

that said if the economy is still bad or takes a nosedive Obama will be vulnerable. If he passes a health care bill that clearly is going to bankrupt the country he will be vulnerable. If there is another terrorist attack on US soil he could be vulnerable.

As far as Romney in the drivers seat, it really depends on where you sit. I think he leads one of the now four factions of the republican party. There is the group that is led by guys like him and Giuliani who want to tone down the social conservative stuff and focus on the economy. There is a faction that is led by Palin and Huckabee who wants to ratchet up the social conservative stuff and move the part back to the far tight to regain the base. There is the faction that is led by Limbaugh which is the group that is basically just against anything that Obama and the democrats are for and there is the group that is led by Gingrich and the new head of the RNC Steele that really don't seem to have any agenda and are just waiting for the democrats to screw up. So anyone who wants to be the republican candidate and wants a shot at actually winning will have to somehow bring all these groups together.

Right now is a prime time for someone like Ron Paul to actually step up and splinter off into a different group and gain some power, but I doubt that will happen because he seems to be more talk than action.

I still think the main problem Palin has is that she accepted the offer to be the VP candidate too soon. The difference between her and Obama is that he spent the last 2-3 years preparing to run. He had answers to questions and knew the issues. She came off like she had just wiped the mud from her boots and got up on the podium. She has a bad image in a lot of people's eyes and she will have to spend a lot of her time just repairing that already tarnished image. Even in her own state her luster has worn off. There are polls that show in 2007 right after the election she had around a 90% approval rating. Now she has about a 54% rating and there are other polls showing that if the current republican Senator from that state ran for governor against Palin she would probably win. I guess Palin decided to bail before she potentially lost that race which would have destroyed her politically.