google what the hell?

[marktruman]

I have a blog, getting around 1000 hits a day for 4 months, then since 19th of august its shot down to 130, Ive not changed any links or had any backlinks removed. Anyone experienced this?

[grumpy]

update it reguarly

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by marktruman

I have a blog, getting around 1000 hits a day for 4 months, then since 19th of august its shot down to 130, Ive not changed any links or had any backlinks removed. Anyone experienced this?

if I had $1 every time someone bitched about a lost SE position, who they for some reason thinks are permanent, I would never ever have to work again...

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by marktruman

I have a blog, getting around 1000 hits a day for 4 months, then since 19th of august its shot down to 130, Ive not changed any links or had any backlinks removed. Anyone experienced this?

[marktruman]

I havent been updating so maybe thats the reason. It's not like its dropped a few places, Ive just vanished off the map totally for a lot of key phrases

[TheDA]

Originally Posted by marktruman

I havent been updating so maybe thats the reason. It's not like its dropped a few places, Ive just vanished off the map totally for a lot of key phrases

So it's gone from google index completely? Doesn't show anywhere when you do site:www.yoursite.com ?

Same thing has been happening to a few batches of people. Happened to a bunch of peeps at back end of March and back end of October last year.

The ones I saw were fairly decent sites, regular, updated blogs.

[roganoli]

This has happened several times with me. Now seems to be stable!

[Agent 488]

don't update it too much.

[EscortBiz]

you need constant new backlinks or google sees you as someone who just racked up some backlinks and deems it junk.

updates are secondary, backlinks are primary.

in addition if its from a site that sends out more and more back links with little incoming they turn shit in turn you turn shit.

google is only hard to understand for those who dont want to do real work.

[Rankings]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

you need constant new backlinks or google sees you as someone who just racked up some backlinks and deems it junk.

updates are secondary, backlinks are primary.

in addition if its from a site that sends out more and more back links with little incoming they turn shit in turn you turn shit.

google is only hard to understand for those who dont want to do real work.

i 2nd that, but also besure to review your backlinks to make sure none of them have been banned for malicious reasons. I bad backlink can cause a pyramid effect.

[XD2]

Firstly if you haven't been updating that is why. Search Engines like active websites with updated content. Especially on blogs.

However sometimes sites go off the scale for a phrase when they are about to move position for example I had a site rank #14 drop out to around #200 and then come back a few days later at #6 I don't know why it does it but it only seems to be google and it normally only happens with newer sites.

However by guess would be it is due to not updating your site while your competitors for the same term have been doing.

Anyway hope your rankings improve again

[TheSenator]

I'm a firmly believer in updates, relative and original content posted at least six times a day.

[XD2]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Updates are secondary, backlinks are primary.

I totally and 100% disagree with that statement. Content and Updates are primary and will do more for you then the links will. When I have clients ask me what is the best way to get good ranking on a budget I always say to update their site on a regular basis. I can also prove this theory with examples if people need me to do so, just hit me up

Also bear in mind good content will get you backlinks without the effort of asking for them.

[woj]

Originally Posted by KrisH

if I had $1 every time someone bitched about a lost SE position, who they for some reason thinks are permanent, I would never ever have to work again...

[~Ray]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

updates are secondary, backlinks are primary.

in addition if its from a site that sends out more and more back links with little incoming they turn shit in turn you turn shit.

a site that links to you CANNOT hurt you in any way.

but,

If you link to a malicious site... well, that could hurt you.

If backlinks could kill, then I could easily kill my competition with my signature.

If the OP needs more backlinks, let me know.

~Ray

[Agent 488]

if you don't think backlinks are primary you have zero knowledge about google.

Originally Posted by XD2

I totally and 100% disagree with that statement. Content and Updates are primary and will do more for you then the links will. When I have clients ask me what is the best way to get good ranking on a budget I always say to update their site on a regular basis. I can also prove this theory with examples if people need me to do so, just hit me up

Also bear in mind good content will get you backlinks without the effort of asking for them.

[fatfoo]

Yeah, google is unpredictable sometimes, isn't it.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by KrisH

if I had $1 every time someone bitched about a lost SE position, who they for some reason thinks are permanent, I would never ever have to work again...

It has a huge impact on an affiliate's livelihood, why shouldn't they bitch here? Go to a sports forum and people will be bitching about refereeing mistakes though they know they are inevitable ... I'd much rather see countless threads bitching about google than another "pics of my dog" thread

[geedub]

been there done that.. lol update your shit and add some new links and wait, all i did and it eventually came back.

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

It has a huge impact on an affiliate's livelihood, why shouldn't they bitch here? Go to a sports forum and people will be bitching about refereeing mistakes though they know they are inevitable ... I'd much rather see countless threads bitching about google than another "pics of my dog" thread

Because its not a "mistake" that the site droped in the ranks. It's like bitching about water being wet

[XD2]

Originally Posted by budsbabes

if you don't think backlinks are primary you have zero knowledge about google.

They aren't primary. They help and are good to get. But they are not primary.

And I know enough about Google and other Search Engines to be getting paid for my knowledge with good results.

It should also be mentioned that just backlinks on any site in any part of the page are not really worth the effort with google either.

Links from relevant websites in the content or an article will do a hell of alot more for your promotion.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by KrisH

Because its not a "mistake" that the site droped in the ranks. It's like bitching about water being wet

Referee "decisions" then

I don't disagree with you but think you are a little harsh on the guy, people need to vent, it isn't like an affiliate can go downstairs and have a cigarette with a colleague.

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by XD2

They aren't primary. They help and are good to get. But they are not primary.

And I know enough about Google and other Search Engines to be getting paid for my knowledge with good results.

It should also be mentioned that just backlinks on any site in any part of the page are not really worth the effort with google either.

Links from relevant websites in the content or an article will do a hell of alot more for your promotion.

I?ve been taking the Google seminars and you are correct. Content and relevance is the key to better rankings with Google. As ?location, location, location? is to real estate, ?relevance, relevance, relevance? is the key to Google. Google has a mission when it comes to serving its customers. If your site aids Google?s mission, it will rank high. Fuck with Google and Google will fuck you.

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by KrisH

if I had $1 every time someone bitched about a lost SE position, who they for some reason thinks are permanent, I would never ever have to work again...

If I had 50 cents for everyone who got a dollar replying to people who bitch about lost SERPs, I would never ever have to work again...

[marktruman]

when i do site:www.domain.com it shows 3 old blog posts, but when I type domain.com into search box, it shows up. Any relevance?

[Tjeezers]

google is a women
fingerbang her from time to time otherwise she gets cranky on you

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by marktruman

I havent been updating so maybe thats the reason. It's not like its dropped a few places, Ive just vanished off the map totally for a lot of key phrases

updating and not updating have nothing to do with anything.

[ToplistBlog_Com]

Originally Posted by Sex2Have

google is a women
fingerbang her from time to time otherwise she gets cranky on you

Haha, that's a pretty good analogy.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by XD2

I totally and 100% disagree with that statement. Content and Updates are primary and will do more for you then the links will. When I have clients ask me what is the best way to get good ranking on a budget I always say to update their site on a regular basis. I can also prove this theory with examples if people need me to do so, just hit me up

Also bear in mind good content will get you backlinks without the effort of asking for them.

why don't you explain this for further comedic affect. you think that "updates" are "primary" - don't make the open declaration that its fact.. explain it in clear detail as to why.

you're the expert. you've said that already. this should be an easy thing for you.

i'm sure you have some good explanations as to why when you search for css tutorials or adsense information or even information about Google/SEO, the top results are often several years old, on sites that haven't been updated in years.

also, you might think about explaining how pushing a "submit" button on a blog makes it a better result for a phrase. and you might go further to explain why everyone isn't just publishing content to be successful.

upates are what matters... so waking up every day and writing about "lesbian porn" should be all it takes to be in the top 10 for "lesbian porn"

show us all what you get paid for.

its your time to shine!

[Big John]

Originally Posted by XD2

I totally and 100% disagree with that statement. Content and Updates are primary and will do more for you then the links will. When I have clients ask me what is the best way to get good ranking on a budget I always say to update their site on a regular basis. I can also prove this theory with examples if people need me to do so, just hit me up

Also bear in mind good content will get you backlinks without the effort of asking for them.

One simple word to describe that post - clueless. I could show both mainstream and porn sites with SE traffic that'd make you weep with envy and that haven't been updated for years.

Fresh content 'can' help but to say it's primary shows you as the clueless idiot you are.

[XD2]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

why don't you explain this for further comedic affect. you think that "updates" are "primary" . . . blah blah blah

You just based your whole post on suggesting I said that just updating was enough. I put content before updates as content is primary and I figured the people reading the post would be intelligent enough to presume that I was talking about content relevant to what the site is about and intends to rank for.

Originally Posted by Big John

One simple word to describe that post - clueless. I could show both mainstream and porn sites with SE traffic that'd make you weep with envy and that haven't been updated for years.

Fresh content 'can' help but to say it's primary shows you as the clueless idiot you are.

Read the above you made the same mistake as Pleasurepays.

Also I followed up with a post that mentions the importance of relevance. Which both of you seemed to overlook. Anyway we could argue about this all day but I know my methods work and I invited anyone to contact me to see the results.

Still it's not like I didn't expect them type of replies. Some people just like to be different.

[thinkhype]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

why don't you explain this for further comedic affect. you think that "updates" are "primary" - don't make the open declaration that its fact.. explain it in clear detail as to why.

you're the expert. you've said that already. this should be an easy thing for you.

i'm sure you have some good explanations as to why when you search for css tutorials or adsense information or even information about Google/SEO, the top results are often several years old, on sites that haven't been updated in years.

also, you might think about explaining how pushing a "submit" button on a blog makes it a better result for a phrase. and you might go further to explain why everyone isn't just publishing content to be successful.

upates are what matters... so waking up every day and writing about "lesbian porn" should be all it takes to be in the top 10 for "lesbian porn"

show us all what you get paid for.

its your time to shine!

couldn't agree more

[Big John]

Originally Posted by XD2

You just based your whole post on suggesting I said that just updating was enough. I put content before updates as content is primary and I figured the people reading the post would be intelligent enough to presume that I was talking about content relevant to what the site is about and intends to rank for.



Read the above you made the same mistake as Pleasurepays.

Also I followed up with a post that mentions the importance of relevance. Which both of you seemed to overlook. Anyway we could argue about this all day but I know my methods work and I invited anyone to contact me to see the results.

Still it's not like I didn't expect them type of replies. Some people just like to be different.

Oddly enough I can read and comprehend both simple statements in posts and basic SEO. Sadly you fail at both it seems, not even being able to understand your own posts or if you do, then you certainly failed completely to get the point you actually meant across. Oh well - pointless argument to start with as being that clueless views were never going to change.

[katharos]

blog? updated? for google its not the best thing, google dont like updated things ... you can be more lucky with yahoo ... not so much traffic as from google, but there are sales problems with google? optimize for other engine!

[AdultHardcore]

I do changes to my site constantly to keep my list somewhere in the top 10 on a number of search terms.