:warning Jenn is an independent women. And no one owns her, that is a fact.

This thread has a lot of twists and turns. Ouch!!

Owning a person in Florida has been illegal for over 100 years, so that's not the point... :upsidedow

The issue is whether Jenni is an employee or contractor (I have both employees and contractors, so I can tell you that there is a big difference between the two).

Earlier in this thread Jenni stated that she was not an employee of HIGR.

However, Whore Monger stated that she is an employee.

When I looked up PR Kitty on WHOIS, Dirty D is listed, not Jenni.

I also located this info in a Press Release from HIGR dated 3/1/07:

The statements above are possibly open to interpretation, but they give the impression that Dirty D absorbed PR Kitty into his business, and that Jenni is more than simply an independent contractor.

Perhaps Jenni can provide some clarification.

ADG

reading this thread is like reading the journals of a bunch of retarded kids

From the guy that thinks TOS have no need to be succinct.

but the situation is solved now. whatever answer you will get, it will not contribute to this matter anymore.

I have returned to find:

Personal threats against my safety.
Photos of my family posted.
Wild allegations from all angles.

This place has really sunk to a new low.

Shoehorn was paid over $600 via epassporte during our last regular bi-monthly payout.

We have paid webmasters millions on time for over 10 years.

Not a single paysite wants affiliates to purchase the EXACT spelling of the domain name via PPC. Shoehorn knew that this was shady when he decided to send me google search engine traffic for the EXACT spelling of "Crack Whore Confessions" - while he was lying to me about the traffic sources.

I took this shady behavior personally and have paid Shoehorn.

The TOS will be updated shortly to state the obvious.

Why not address those allegations? Do you not agree that all webmasters should be able to market your content that you have taken great care to make sure all talent is over the age of 18? And if you are a "victim" in this ordeal, why haven't you sued that model for false accusations that could potentially harm your reputation?

But not, apparently, on gfy.

Just to set the record straight, which I am sure you want to do, what are those wild allegations? I am sure that those made them would be glad to apologize after your explanation.

I and many others told you this on Page 1 of this thread.

You were just too thick skinned, obstinate, and stupid to do it right away and save face.

I hope you learnt a lesson from all this, but highly doubt you will.

You're one of these people who doesn't listen to anyone else, thinking you're always right. Are you Sleazy's brother?

I'm pretty sure you have brought most of this on yourself... :2 cents:

You paid Shoehorn, but then insulted him yet again. :disgust

I am against the personal threats and posting of your family photos (and I posted my views in this thread about such), however that does not get you off the hook for some of the allegations that have been made against you or your program.

What is up about the allegation by Whore Monger, that you two had a deal that he would shoot the content for "Crack Whore Confessions" and you would market/distribute it, and split the profits 50-50, but now he is totally cut off, and you are taking his share?

What is up about Kelsie Cummings? She says she was 17 at the time you shot her, and you appear to be splitting hairs with regards to her ID.

I could go on, but lets start with these two, since you claim people are making "wild allegations" against you.

ADG

You are going to loose money to forbid it, allowing it will be your profit.

Did Dirty D take another cruise?

Suddenly he is again unable/unwilling to take simple questions?

That worked out so good for him with Shoehorn, let's see if it continues to be a good strategy... :upsidedow

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Exact... This whole issue is costing more money now on the end, inc this thread
One person was able to move a complete mountain in 1 single program from left to right.

This was a eye opener.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sums up this thread perfectly.

OMG! That Hitler video is HILARIOUS!

Bitches LIE all the time....I have had numerous girls want to shoot with me that are underage and they don't give a fuck because they need some new shoes that they can wear to the club, in which they get in with one of their friends ID....One time, a model that is of age brought one of her friends with her who was 17 years old and wanted me to shoot her because she gets her "finders fee".....I told her that I can't shoot her friend cause she is 17 and she says, "We won't tell anybody"......Fuck that shit.....

If he shot a five year old or a kid that doesn't know shit that's one thing....But a 17 year old dumbass girl who is willing to lie and use fake ID's is another.....

In case anyone missed it:



Tell it to the judge... :winkwink:

ADG

If Whore Monger can make a case that he is the creator/owner of the content, couldn't he file a DMCA complaint with the hosting company to force the content to be taken down?

ADG

Sounds like he could and then he could file an injunction until the case is hammered out in course and collect past royalties for the infringement. Worth checking out.

hey dude can you shoot me an email i have a few questions for ya, thx
[email protected]

congrats for getting paid shoe

I'm not a lawyer...that is probably who you should be directing your questions to.

I'm guessing that this means that Dirty D didn't give you back your 6 years worth of content, which you allege he stole/swindled you out of, nor did he give you your share of the income he has made off of the content, which you allege he has withheld from you.

Oh, and just so we are clear, I absolutely disdain your Crackwhore Confessions content. Both you and Dirty D are a disgrace to the industry for producing such vile content. :disgust

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:thumbsup

WARNING to all n00bs!

Don't promote howigotrich.com.

Better safe than sorry...

To be fair, their is much move vile content out there. I have often wondered if half the fetishes today even existed before online porn. Chicken or egg?
Dirt's stuff is pretty mild compared to some of the bodily fluid, torture, rape sites that exist. Hell look up whatever you want in Bing, and there it is for your kids to look at....for free.

Not in the eyes of the law or the press that eat this shit up. I agree with your point wholeheartedly, there are 'street wise' talent that have not reached the age of 18 that want to make the easy money.... but it is up to all of us that shoot it to have the same standards you have and say 'fuck that, age a year'


spaz

It gets down to is it really necessary. There is a ton of talent around. Its easy to find. So why mess with anything you think is dodgy. Move on.

This thread went very extreme.
Looking forward for more information.

And who in the hell do you think YOU are to make such a judgemental statement?....Especially when you shoot your own content that is geared towards people who want to GET OFF??

Do you really think that none of your Asian models smoke crack or do cocaine?.....I DARE you to say that you're sure that they don't.....Just because a woman is about to hit the pipe before or after a shoot doesn't make the content any less valuable.....

I would know since I'm the KING of my niche....

Yes, I cater to people that are interested in Asian niche erotica, however there is a big difference between what I shoot, and what bottom dwellers like you and Dirty D shoot.

I make a conscious effort to avoid shooting content which is racist, sexist, or degrading - conversely, that seems to be your core focus.

I try to create content which women or couples can enjoy, and I do not cater or pander to misogynistic sociopath misanthropes, as you and Dirty D apparently do.

Just because something might sell well, doesn't mean that it has any moral, ethical or artistic value.

KING of your niche?!?

Much of your content is hideous and vile in my view, so I could care less if you make money off of it or not. There are lots of degenerate, sick people, out there, willing to pay for trashy and crappy content, and if that's who you want to cater and pander to, then I hope you will enjoy getting locked up next to Max Hardcore. Oh, and don't expect me to speak out for your rights.

As for drug usage, I do not permit drugs on my sets.

I'm sure that a small percentage of the girls whom I have worked with have experimented with cocaine, or other drugs, but by and large, most of the established Asian models/performers are pretty much straight.

There are a few exceptions that I am aware of, and I choose not to work with them.

That is quite different than deliberately seeking out sad drug-addicted bottom dwellers to explicitly and consciously hire in order to degrade and humiliate them for your sick pleasure, and the twisted psyches of those whom think as you do.

ADG

I think he has every right to his opinion and to post it here. I don't like trading off of other people's disabilities. I do think it is bad taste and draws heat. However, its just an opinion that I wouldn't go to the mats over. That is unless, it impacts my income which it does not.
There are worse scumbags out there that do impact our income and that I feel much more strongly about. I like dirt's glory hole/theatre concept, though the execution may be questionable. The crackwhore thing I find offensive, but that is just me.

All of that aside... I had one of the best Adult Attorneys tell me that if the model is intoxicated (would assume high on drugs applies here as well) that they can not legally enter into a contract. That is the only issue I could see here, in regards to you saying " hit the pipe before a shoot... ".

i'm sure it must be hard to catch the ones that lie. If the id looks like them, and they fill out all of the paper work I guess there is only so much you can do if she looks old enough as well. 17 is still CP though, at least in the US.

The allegations that were made in this thread were a stop further than a model using a fake ID and the content shooter not knowing. I think it was something to the effect that the content shooter knew she was under age, told her she just needed " an id " eluding to the fact he didn't care whos it was etc.... If that really happened I think you would agree that would be extremely bad and wreckless on the content shooters part, and a lot more than "some bitches just lie and use a fake id".

Personally I really don't see much of a difference. I haven't looked at either BVF's or Dirty D's sites but I think I get the gist of it. Girls cracked out telling their story and doing anything for money to get their next fix.

How is that much different than some broke, aspiring actress who moved to LA and is about to be evicted, can't get a job so she has to resort to porn and do a DP scene with 2 hung black men. Is that not degrading to her. Do you think there is just about anything else on the planet she would rather be doing, but she is desperate to pay her bills. The crack whore is desperate for a fix but I think she cares a whole lot less about what she is doing to get the money then probably half of the "porn studio" girls.

Not in all cases. I am sure some girls love being porn stars, and take pride in what they do. But let's not kid ourselves. I am sure a good bit don't and are really bad off an need the money. What is degrading to one girl might not be to the next. I don't think we are to be of judge what is degrading or not, only the girl in question can determine that. And just because one girl does something doesn't mean it degrades all women.

In the end, it's a job to them, and a means to an end. They choose to do it, and they got what they needed from it, whether it is rent or their next fix or a career, but in all cases I am sure they happer they did it and used the money to fix their problem opposed to the alternative.

What you fail to realize that you are considered to be just as big of a piece of scum as I am to most people who aren't in this biz....If it makes you feel more jolly about yourself because you shoot "erotica", then it's whatever floats your boat....You're like a bottom feeding catfish that looks down on a bottom feeding crab.....We're both making our living in the muck....

Nobody is shooting girls smoking crack...Well at least I don't....so basically it's just another naked bitch....And if that's what's going to get me locked up along with MAX HARDCORE, then you're going to have your fat ass up in the jail getting plowed by Tyrone your damn self....

However, feel free to poke your nose upwards...you're just sniffing a different part of the same asshole.


edit.....And don't ever let me catch you in any hypocrisy in the future...

I had to highlight this.....What kind of moron would look at my site and would deduce in their little pea brain that it would be getting me locked up next to Max Hardcore?....Only a blubbering idiot would see me taking pictures and getting my dick sucked by a woman as a parallel to beating and pissing on bitches.....

This paragraph alone invalidated your credibility as it makes you look like a blind fool.

I think you know that I generally respect your opinions (I even lobbied for your unbanning), however I think you are a little off base here.

First off, you claim to have never looked at Dirty D's or BVF's sites, so you really have no frame of reference with which to compare their sites to anyone else's.

Then you set up a strawman argument, that "some broke, aspiring actress who moved to LA and is about to be evicted, can't get a job so she has to resort to porn and do a DP scene with 2 hung black men."

That is nothing like the typical girls whom I work with. I have never shot a 2-on-1 scene, or even an anal scene, let alone a DP scene (with one exception of a real-life couple that I didn't realize until post-production had switched to anal).

Your opinion indicates that you are probably not involved in the content production side of the business (where everything is not always as it appears).

There are actually many honest and ethical companies, that respect the talent whom they hire, and have certain production standards.

There are also those whom cannot compete on the same level, and therefore cater to a lower common denominator.

Go down several more layers, and then you arrive at where Dirty D and BVF have positioned themselves.

Tell us, what is the next lower level - or are you unable to, since at that point, you have no ability to distinguish what is moral or ethical anymore?

At what point do you draw a line between what is right and wrong?

I understand that even in this day and age there are Puritans, and I am certainly not one of them, however I like to think that most people are enlightened enough to be able to distinguish between good healthy (non-racist/non-sexist) sex, and practices which are beyond the pale, and degrade us all (both the victims/participants and the perpetrators/producers).

:2 cents:

ADG