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escorpio 12-12-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16639436)
Nooner bump!



The way I see it is pretty cut and dry. I don't see it at all as being a pissing match between two people. Let's take the names out of it and try to look at it objectively-

An affiliate saw a way to make a quick PPC buck that was not prohibited by the Sponsor's TOS. The affiliate was paid for 3 months on traffic he sent using this method.

When the Sponsor sourced the traffic and found it was coming from a keyword campaign they found questionable the affiliate should have been contacted and the Sponor site's TOS should have been updated.

Because the affiliate was not notified their traffic was no longer considered kosher, the TOS were not updated and the Sponsor program failed to contact the affiliate, the affiliate continued to spend money on the campaign for another few months until the non payment issue required direct affiliate / sponsor contact.

To continue to allow an affiliate to run a paid marketing campaign and continue to accept sales from this affiliate with no intention of paying them on the sales generated is dishonest any way you slice it. What it amounts to is a sponsor program using an affiliate to absorb PPC campaign costs they would have normally incurred themselves.

http://yaroq.files.wordpress.com/200...d-nail_web.jpg

Quagmire 12-12-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainhowdy (Post 16639792)

where's mah money?! <smack> where's mah money?!? <smack> don't make a fool outta me man!

Quagmire 12-12-2009 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 16639436)
Nooner bump!



The way I see it is pretty cut and dry. I don't see it at all as being a pissing match between two people. Let's take the names out of it and try to look at it objectively-

An affiliate saw a way to make a quick PPC buck that was not prohibited by the Sponsor's TOS. The affiliate was paid for 3 months on traffic he sent using this method.

When the Sponsor sourced the traffic and found it was coming from a keyword campaign they found questionable the affiliate should have been contacted and the Sponor site's TOS should have been updated.

Because the affiliate was not notified their traffic was no longer considered kosher, the TOS were not updated and the Sponsor program failed to contact the affiliate, the affiliate continued to spend money on the campaign for another few months until the non payment issue required direct affiliate / sponsor contact.

To continue to allow an affiliate to run a paid marketing campaign and continue to accept sales from this affiliate with no intention of paying them on the sales generated is dishonest any way you slice it. What it amounts to is a sponsor program using an affiliate to absorb PPC campaign costs they would have normally incurred themselves.

Dead on the money with this post.

I would like to dry-hump your leg.

San 12-12-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D (Post 16611725)
"Crack Whore Stories" is acceptable.

Purchasing the exact spelling of our domain is not.

What an idiot you are.

A sale sent through affiliate code is a sale.


Jesus Christ, you can't afford to pay $350 ? God damn loser.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-12-2009 06:12 PM

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/di...tivational.jpg

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brand0n 12-12-2009 06:27 PM

she didnt just say this thread has produced affs did she?

jesus christ.

i should go back with ibill due to the threads theyve posted here recently...

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-12-2009 06:29 PM

http://www.flaminghomos.com/pbbc.jpg

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-12-2009 07:35 PM

Well, I have to head out to a Xmas Party with the Missus in a little while, but here's a Saturday night classic GFY movie, posted earlier in this thread, for all of you staying in (it's especially good with popcorn):



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Scootermuze 12-12-2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16640031)

Not to change the subject, but I often wondered, with all the improvising the professor did to create various things, why he didn't throw together a few things to patch those little holes in the boat..

Iron Fist 12-12-2009 07:46 PM

Sixteen Fiddy

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-12-2009 07:48 PM

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/di...tivational.jpg

I'm just sayin'...

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Warren 12-12-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16640396)



Get back up there! everything that needs to be said, has been.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-12-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16640031)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scootermuze (Post 16640390)
Not to change the subject, but I often wondered, with all the improvising the professor did to create various things, why he didn't throw together a few things to patch those little holes in the boat..

Multiple Choice Answer:

1) He was too busy banging Ginger and Maryanne

2) He was into MILFs so he was too busy banging Mrs Howell

3) He was too busy sucking Gilligan's dick and getting sucked off by Gilligan

4) He was too busy getting sucked off by the Skipper and sucking the Skipper's dick

5) He was too busy beating off in a hammock alongside Gilligan, the Skipper, and Thurston Howell the 3rd

6) He used the holes in the hull as glory holes and collected coconuts off the others in exchange for them using it

7) He was so pissed about Dirty D not paying Shoehorn, and all of the other mess about Dirty D, that it slipped his mind

http://summerofbenny.com/images/2007/2/Gilligan.gif

Not sure if you knew, but Dirty D is a castaway too:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/dirty-d-castaway.jpg

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HandballJim 12-12-2009 08:25 PM

DD must not have any friends, a friend of his should pay shoehorn double just so this thread dies already. :2 cents:

SuzzyQ 12-12-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16640457)
DD must not have any friends, a friend of his should pay shoehorn double just so this thread dies already. :2 cents:

<sarcasm>Yea. Like one of the "Bros" is going to get involved in this thread. </sarcasm>
They are avoiding this thread like a bad case of the clap

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-12-2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuzzyQ (Post 16640467)
<sarcasm>Yea. Like one of the "Bros" is going to get involved in this thread. </sarcasm>
They are avoiding this thread like a bad case of the clap

If Dirty D uses untested street people as talent, as has been alleged, then coming into contact with him (i.e. sucking his dick) could indeed possibly cause clap...

http://image.hotdog.hu/_data/members...r-Clapping.gif

Okay, I'm out...party to attend. I'll check in when I get back. Until then, have fun and keep bumping this thread until Shoehorn gets paid and Dirty D explains the rest of the allegations against him (CP, stiffing his partner that shot and edited his content, etc).

ADG

whore monger 12-12-2009 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16640031)
BREAKING NEWS:

Dirty D has a mole in his camp that has been leaking even more details about his shadiness...

Remember the 10-day cruise he went on, which was supposed to leave Dirty D unable to connect to the internet and respond to this thread (even though it has been pointed out that most cruise ships are internet equipped these days, and that Dirty D was caught logging-in surreptitiously)?

Well, I have heard from an unnamed source about Dirty D's next plot to avoid commenting on the mountain of allegations against him...

He is planning to stage his own disappearance.

I was unable to get all of the details, however what I could piece together is this:

Dirty D will have someone issue a press release and post a sad tale that Dirty D's cruise ship was lost at sea, but that Affiliates should keep sending sells, because the program pretty much runs on auto-pilot anyway (which is how he could spend all day in the past getting loaded on pot).

People will call bullshit, so that eventually another press release and post will be made showing a picture that Dirty D's cruise ship was found, but despite valiant efforts to locate Dirty D, he remains missing - but that Affiliates should continue to send sells.

I hacked into one of the programs computers and found this picture:

http://aardvarks.files.wordpress.com...minnow_big.jpg

Even more shocking, is that I found another picture, which appears to be Dirty D on some deserted island, however it turns out that it is just a set constructed next to the Glory Hole in his living room.

Apparently, once people called bullshit again, Dirty D was going to try and prove that he really is marooned by releasing a photo that he was able to transmit via a crude banana and coconut jury-rigged device (since there is no internet access on the island) - and that he was never coming back, but that Affiliates should continue to send sells:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/dirty-d-castaway.jpg

Now that this evil plot has been exposed, I expect that Dirty D will casually step back inside in the not too distant future, utter a brief contrived mea culpa (without actually answering all of the issues swirling around about himself and his program)...and then of course, tell everyone to keep sending him sells.

Don't be fooled sheeple!!!


ADG

that's probably the look dirty motherfuckin D was sportin when he and 70 year old shirley were arrested for jackin off in the theater, is shirley's aka thirston howell III ???

Warren 12-12-2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16640501)
If Dirty D uses untested street people as talent, as has been alleged, then coming into contact with him (i.e. sucking his dick) could indeed possibly cause clap...


:(:winkwink:
http://image.hotdog.hu/_data/members...r-Clapping.gif

Okay, I'm out...party to attend. I'll check in when I get back. Until then, have fun and keep bumping this thread until Shoehorn gets paid and Dirty D explains the rest of the allegations against him (CP, stiffing his partner that shot and edited his content, etc).

ADG


No wireless at the party? This sounds all too familiar!

georgeyw 12-12-2009 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 16640303)
she didnt just say this thread has produced affs did she?

jesus christ.

i should go back with ibill due to the threads theyve posted here recently...

Yup she did.

Apparently sales are up along with affiliate signups :1orglaugh

fmltube 12-12-2009 10:57 PM

Anyone care to make heads or tails out of this?

Dirty D Responds

Dirty D responds: Hi Gang, This is Dirty D owner of http://www.GloryHoleGirlz.com plus many other adult websites and a few DVD series. Clearly someone has an agenda to harm my business specifically and perhaps the adult industry in general. Much of this is now a legal matter and that limits my public comments. So this will be my only reply.

What I can say is this:

I have been a successful businessman and have shot porn for a very long time. Getting a model release and ID is something that we ALWAYS do without fail.

We have shot many hundreds of scenes and have nothing to hide. My real name and address are no secret, they are available on the 2257 information on EVERY single site and DVD.

This situation was first brought to our attention from an anonymous post on Craigslist.

We immediately verified our releases/IDs and made copies. A valid Florida Drivers License was indeed provided to us and the model was over 18 years old. The information on the signed release matches the Florida Drivers License.

We have made the copies available to local law enforcement in case there has been an identity theft and will be happy to cooperate with any state or federal officials as well.

The crimes that the talent has allegedly committed and admitted to in public is astounding and disturbing. I am not able to go into the details but make sure to read the mix of lies, accusations and allegations that have been made very carefully, to see exactly who has caused this situation.

Names that have apparently been used by the talent in question (so far):

Toni Cowell

Mandi Cowell (Name on Myspace account)

Destiney Poceous

Destinay Poceous

Erica Stone

Kelsey Cummings

We called her "Brandy"


At least three people, the girl in question, her husband (my crew shot him in a gay gloryhole scene) and suitcase pimp have all worked for over a year to find them work with various adult producers in the area. She has definitely shot in Florida with various producers and may have worked in other areas as well. She has a blog that details her interest in working in adult and her work with various producers.

A search for "Kelsey Cummings" will show that she has shot for several producers, appearing on websites and DVDs. This vindictive attack has only been made against me and my company.

We urge all other producers to check their records to see if this individual has approached you or has performed for you.

We take our business very seriously. The content in question was removed immediately, pending a full investigation to these claims. Any online ad tools and hosted galleries for our affiliates have been replaced, so there is no need to change any existing links.

Dirty D

www.GloryHoleGirlz.com

fmltube 12-12-2009 11:04 PM

Even if Shoehorn does get paid, does everyone go on and forget about shit like this and what whore monger brought up? Seems kinda fucked up that for a whole year he had her content up and exposed affiliates to possible legal issues as well.

Maybe its time to just market for CCBill sites only.

SuzzyQ 12-13-2009 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16640708)
Even if Shoehorn does get paid, does everyone go on and forget about shit like this and what whore monger brought up? Seems kinda fucked up that for a whole year he had her content up and exposed affiliates to possible legal issues as well.

Maybe its time to just market for CCBill sites only.

It seems that way. And here is a late night bump for Shoehorn

xxxdvdbuy 12-13-2009 01:45 AM

This sounds like another attempt a sponsor program is making to take money and cancel accounts for the lining of their own pockets. I guess I won't be promoting these people.. Thanks for the heads up. I think no matter where the traffic comes from, if a sale is converted the affiliate should be paid. No matter how he sent the traffic it's traffic the sponsor didn't have in the first place.. Pay people their money and stop stealing traffic and revenue from people promoting your crap. HAHAHAHAHAH

ErectMedia 12-13-2009 02:12 AM

I am just getting back into adult after a few years off with mainstream projects. I belong to a lot of mainstream affiliate networks cj.com, linkshare.com etc... and each advertiser can list terms for affiliates to follow in the control panel, which keywords you can bid on etc... I'm not gonna read this whole thread but it sounds like shoehorn was bidding on terms that were not prohibited which converted into sales and was paid and then it stopped because dirty d didn't like the terms he was bidding on, I think the correct action is to pay shoehorn what he is owed and then add keywords that affiliates are not allowed to bid on to your terms and email it out to all affiliates so they know the new terms are in effect immediately, to stiff someone the money that is owed to them for bidding terms that didn't exist when the sales were taking place is horseshit. Sometimes ya gotta make an example out of people regardless of the amount of income. Personally I would sue as I am pretty sure you would win as the terms he is using to not pay didn't exist at the time the sales took place. Hard to enforce a rule that didn't exist. Every click that was made was a paid click into his site so not only is he getting stiffed on his sales but he also lost some cash on pay per click ads. I would sue or go beat this dirty d down as it's about principle and any company that lets a thread grow like this over a few hundred $ is not a real company and after reading this who will promote this shit.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-13-2009 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren (Post 16640657)
No wireless at the party? This sounds all too familiar!

Not sure what you mean...

Yeah, no wireless at the party - was there from about 9:30pm to 2:30am, sang a karaoke version of "Come Together" around 1am that brought the house down (I'm mostly known amongst my friends as a decent guitarist, but there are certain songs that I can belt out fairly well - especially with plenty of reverb, and lots of booze inside me, LOL) . :pimp



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xxweekxx 12-13-2009 08:05 AM

i doubt he is gonna get paid

mfer 12-13-2009 10:47 AM

how i got rich

Hotrocket 12-13-2009 11:09 AM

If Shoehorn doesn't get paid we will hijack any thread DirtyD ever makes on this board or any other...we wont forget about this, it wont go away.

ridiculous to see a business self destruct like this over a few hundred dollars.

its over for you dirty...over

Axeman 12-13-2009 11:28 AM

Bump to expose some shadiness

ContentSHOOTER 12-13-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 16641533)
If Shoehorn doesn't get paid we will hijack any thread DirtyD ever makes on this board or any other...we wont forget about this, it wont go away.

ridiculous to see a business self destruct like this over a few hundred dollars.

its over for you dirty...over

Almost 29,000 views and I'm not sure of how many post in this thread but like you said his game is OVER.... Would have been much easier to pay the $350.00 or what ever it was and avoid his business demise...:1orglaugh

Shoehorn! 12-13-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16640031)
BREAKING NEWS:

Dirty D has a mole in his camp that has been leaking even more details about his shadiness...

Remember the 10-day cruise he went on, which was supposed to leave Dirty D unable to connect to the internet and respond to this thread (even though it has been pointed out that most cruise ships are internet equipped these days, and that Dirty D was caught logging-in surreptitiously)?

Well, I have heard from an unnamed source about Dirty D's next plot to avoid commenting on the mountain of allegations against him...

He is planning to stage his own disappearance.

I was unable to get all of the details, however what I could piece together is this:

Dirty D will have someone issue a press release and post a sad tale that Dirty D's cruise ship was lost at sea, but that Affiliates should keep sending sells, because the program pretty much runs on auto-pilot anyway (which is how he could spend all day in the past getting loaded on pot).

People will call bullshit, so that eventually another press release and post will be made showing a picture that Dirty D's cruise ship was found, but despite valiant efforts to locate Dirty D, he remains missing - but that Affiliates should continue to send sells.

I hacked into one of the programs computers and found this picture:

http://aardvarks.files.wordpress.com...minnow_big.jpg

Even more shocking, is that I found another picture, which appears to be Dirty D on some deserted island, however it turns out that it is just a set constructed next to the Glory Hole in his living room.

Apparently, once people called bullshit again, Dirty D was going to try and prove that he really is marooned by releasing a photo that he was able to transmit via a crude banana and coconut jury-rigged device (since there is no internet access on the island) - and that he was never coming back, but that Affiliates should continue to send sells:

http://www.asiandivagirls.com/gfy/dirty-d-castaway.jpg

Now that this evil plot has been exposed, I expect that Dirty D will casually step back inside in the not too distant future, utter a brief contrived mea culpa (without actually answering all of the issues swirling around about himself and his program)...and then of course, tell everyone to keep sending him sells.

Don't be fooled sheeple!!!

ADG

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

wizzart 12-13-2009 01:33 PM

Thanks for info

Big Chad 12-13-2009 02:14 PM

STILL not paid!! wow

Quagmire 12-13-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16641155)
i doubt he is gonna get paid

so at what point did you clue in to this, the 2nd page, or the 32nd page?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-13-2009 02:41 PM

Keepin it at the top!

SRT8 12-13-2009 02:46 PM

dirty d is so fucking ugly he has to have 70 year old farts suck his dick. what a loooooser.

xxweekxx 12-13-2009 03:04 PM

lol.........

Iron Fist 12-13-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRT8 (Post 16642012)
dirty d is so fucking ugly he has to have 70 year old farts suck his dick. what a loooooser.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

xNetworx 12-13-2009 04:59 PM

$350 > destroying all credibility as a businessman and program owner?


:1orglaugh

fmltube 12-13-2009 07:39 PM

keeping it at the top.


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