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Best of luck with it Jay
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BTW best of luck also. I dont wish failure to anyone not named Donny. We are all in this together even tho some people do idiotic things.
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Simple concept:
We will give our content away for first, free and make ad revenue off of it before the other tubes steal it, upload it to their site,(claiming someone else uploaded it) and make the money off of the ad space. Things are changing fast and its not gonna get better. Its great that someone has the balls to try something new. ![]()
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I AM JUSTDAVE !
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No No Jay, that came off wrong, i meant that about people like Donny ,Eddie Coates...etc and all these loser fucks who are nothing but trouble for the biz. LOL I was in no way saying what you are doing was idiotic. I dont agree with it, but I support you and wish you guys luck.
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The domain and design leave alot to be desired. Also I think the added risk of being "partners" on a deal is also a negative. (many reasons, none personal)
That being said. I think the business model if done correctly will succeed in todays market. (I hate to say this but xxxjay is right, things are changing FAST) Good Luck! |
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What he said!
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stever called this one.
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Good luck with that!!!
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Some are gonna love this idea.. Most are gonna hate it.. Truth of the matter is however you feel about it the affiliate sales model is dying and nearly died.. It was time to shake things up.. Even if this does not work (and I think it should with some maturity) it has the chance to pave the way for something new in the market.. Better to lead the way and take a risk then to let chances pass you by..
Viva La Revolucion
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Everyone is misunderstanding eachother....everyone has been giving content away for free since 1993 :-) ......... its just ...... more now..... and call it a new 4 letter word like FREE instead TUBE lol.... Jay was eventually going to do it and so is everyone else and you....in this economy, saturation, worldwide accessibility at your fingertips in a second, etc. FREE is a more popular way to do business.... Hulu.com is showing lots of content for free....even major titles like Jim Carrey's LIAR LIAR, is Blockbusters complaining to the rights owners of that movie? ;-) Anyways, see you all at the Xbiz show....come to the panel i will be speaking along with Alec and other industry veterans ![]()
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you can say whatever you want but big tgps are changing quick to tubes...ex. sunporno.com or madthumbs.com |
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One thing will be a problem in your experiment Jay: hulu can have a big company spend ad dollars because many eyeballs are on there. It's doable.
But you have a tube site. Even if the content is exclusive, the tube traffic pie is pretty much well established and it'll be hard to get up there with the top 5. The top 5 tube sites are really the ones with ad value to advertizers but still one problem remain...it's porn and most companies won't want to be advertized on there because of moral issues (especially in the mainstream). Anyways, apart from dating and cam, you expect a sponsor is going to give you ad money? Possible but I doubt it... I agree with you we will be following your progress. If it works, you'll be a genious. If it dosn't work, you'll be the target of trolls on GFY ( but who cares about them right?). Good luck
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Other thing is: why make the announcement on a Superbowl Sunday? Odd no?
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Seriously, you guys are discussing this as was it the first legit tube with its own full lenght content ?!
Sometimes i wonder if you guys ever leave gfy ![]() gl jay, from own experiences i know you will smile to the bank ;) |
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More free content to watch = less time to look at the Credit Card number to buy membership or whatever else and more time for jerking off .
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i wonder how big the risk is to these sponsors? are they putting up their entire inventories of content or part? if it is in fact all the oc cash and ip content then if this thing falls flat, wouldn't those entire operations be in jeopardy?
i am not assuming anything here nor is this an opinion, it's an attempt an an observation from a running a business angle. thoughts? |
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Good luck. Personally I think it should be a pay tube site.
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What people have to realize is that things change and you have to adapt or die. The worst part about tube sites are not that they are free.... the problem is that they make people porn addicts and eventually these porn addicts will spend money. Its just like giving people free weed, with heorin and crack as your upsell. Eventaully they will burn out on the weed and try the upsell.
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Adult or mainstream must try new and innovative ways to make money. Everyone must throw 5000 darts at the dartboard in hopes of one sticking.
Anyone who opens a new site and says this is it, its great, is a fool, like jay said himself he hopes it will work, and I only wish him the best, it’s not easy to make money in these days and it’s not easy to launch anything. The design and loading time etc. is real nice. On wall street many people engage in transactions that many do not understand or do not like, this does not mean they don’t make money, they simply carved out a niche or came up with a new or semi new concept to make some money. Do tubes hurt this business? Yes, but can this make jay more money then he is currently making? Yes. And that’s what people have to understand, the focus is times like these will be more about how can I make money versus, oh shit the other guy might make less. Does a site that offers a free service such as google docs, or free email etc. hurt another’s business? Yes, but again the guys who run those sites feel that by giving that out for free it will make them money. Would I rather see no free porn online? No free escort sites, etc? yeah, but its not going to happen. Right now guys its all about thinking outside the box and focusing on one thing, how can you make money, no one here is going to pay your bills, it’s everyone on their own. It’s his content not mine or yours, and that’s the keyword, being upset at someone who produced his own content and then will sell ads that people can view as they view his content is like NBC being upset on CBS for showing people the show Survivor for free and selling ads on it, heck ill try an ad when that site has lots of traffic. Congrats on the launch and good luck!
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Guess again ;)
ive been running a site with free porn filled with full lenght legal content for some time. It had about 100k se traffic all of them looking for "free porn", made about 20-30 sales a day PLUS 30-40 mobile sales daily. No kidding. |
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i dont get the name though
why is the url so long man? |
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Jay and I will be at the XBIZ show tomorrow, feel free and come up and talk to the venture.
Like I said in this press release we feel that this going to change the landscape of porn. We are the first company to offer fresh exclusive scenes every day.
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It's a play on words. Like most names, it may seem awkward at first, but will be accepted in time.
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Giving away your content for free is not adapting. What's next, free pussy? Hey, auto sales are bad now too, so what, should they give away free cars? Free hosting?
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don't tubes update with *exclusive* content every day all day? |
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I see potential in creating content for tubes, actually. Let's say you're watching a really hot scene on there and at the end there's a gigantic cumshot. The girl has an impressed look on her face and says, "holy shit how do your cumshots get so big?!" He says, "I've been using "Ejaculation enhancer 300" and BAM! right next to the video is an ad for ejaculation enhancer 3000.
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Good luck with release.
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lol no kidding. What makes him think that his content wont be added to 1000's of other tube sites over the next couple days.
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there lies the problem. Sure tube sites with full length videos can make sales, but can you profit. If your content is dirt cheap or stolen you likely can. If you are paying to have custom content made to update a tube site, no way in hell you will make money. Sure he probably has a lot of content to kick it off with, but sooner or later he will run out and if he is really going to update it everyday with his own custom, exclusive content he will have a lot more cost than most tube sites.
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What do you mean by HAD? What happened?
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Wanna trade a hard link?
I have a solid blog/tube hybrid with about 60k unique daily.
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It's not the same thing. Free pussy usually cost more than paying. Cars are tangible products and hosting is not addictive. I'm not defending tube I'm just stating facts if done right these guys will make a killing. |
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Homes are given away with the hope that the new home owners will pay to have their lawn mowed and gutters cleaned, by maintenance companies that will give the previous home owners a kick back for bringing them the business. Yes, they may get a lifetime of kick backs from these maintenance companies, but they lost the house. This doesn't make sense in any business model you try to apply it to. You don't take your best product and give it all away.
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