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Old 02-08-2010, 05:59 PM   #101
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OK...

Homes are given away with the hope that the new home owners will pay to have their lawn mowed and gutters cleaned, by maintenance companies that will give the previous home owners a kick back for bringing them the business.

Yes, they may get a lifetime of kick backs from these maintenance companies, but they lost the house.

This doesn't make sense in any business model you try to apply it to. You don't take your best product and give it all away.
Hey fuckwad, all of your comparisons to cars and houses are bullshit. Cars and houses are things you NEED. Porn is just a fraction of 1% of people lives. It used to be "if you wanted the good shit" you need to pay. Now, we all know this isn't true.

It's our content, this is how we are choosing to monetize it.

Get over it.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:02 PM   #102
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what does this supposed to mean?
everyone had tgps sites
that are hundreds upon thousands of tube sites

what are you saying?
tgp sites are not in the same league at all. if tubes = traffic, and there are 1000's of tubes does that mean all of these tubes are going to get mega traffic just because they are tubes? Nope. A few big established ones will always reign while the rest will wither away and die because a small tube site is not very profitable typically.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:04 PM   #103
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Exciting times ahead.

Will there be a traffic trade script added? If so i have several tubes ready to trade.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:06 PM   #104
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Exciting times ahead.

Will there be a traffic trade script added? If so i have several tubes ready to trade.
We are not skimming the videos. There are some hardlinks available.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:10 PM   #105
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What do you get when you put two guys who think they are masters of the universe, in a room to brainstorm ideas and don't allow any alternative points of view to be offered or listened to?
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:27 PM   #106
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What do you get when you put two guys who think they are masters of the universe, in a room to brainstorm ideas and don't allow any alternative points of view to be offered or listened to?
Wait, you forgot:

Do that and give us about a pound of cocaine to snort and smoke.


Oh hell, I can tell you what happens:

We come out of there a week later and have given all of our content away with no real plans to monetize it!

God, we are idiots!

I should have listened to "lickmyballs" on GFY of I never would have gotten in this mess!
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:31 PM   #107
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I see potential in creating content for tubes, actually. Let's say you're watching a really hot scene on there and at the end there's a gigantic cumshot. The girl has an impressed look on her face and says, "holy shit how do your cumshots get so big?!" He says, "I've been using "Ejaculation enhancer 300" and BAM! right next to the video is an ad for ejaculation enhancer 3000.
Bingo. Someone gets it I see. Sex has been used to sell products other than sex since way before even the tiny empire of Rome was founded. If you can't sell porn with porn it's only common sense to use it to sell something else.

I predict that this site will get huge fast.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:32 PM   #108
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I should have listened to "lickmyballs" on GFY of I never would have gotten in this mess!
Well, you're a big man to admit it. Congrats on that.

I don't hope this fails. I just think it will. It's a big gamble. You're either gonna be rich rich rich or flat broke with your tail between your legs. If I'm a bettin' man, I take odds on the latter.

But, of course, when someone told me some company was coming out with a solid state memory version of a walkman, I thought that was a dumb idea too so what the fuck do I know.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:50 PM   #109
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we feel that this going to change the landscape of porn. .
LOL.....

I will be impressed if this site breaks alexa 10k
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Some better branding and design layout will help out the site alot.

Best of luck, especially with the scalability. Downloading was already very slow for me.
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Well, you're a big man to admit it. Congrats on that.

I don't hope this fails. I just think it will. It's a big gamble. You're either gonna be rich rich rich or flat broke with your tail between your legs. If I'm a bettin' man, I take odds on the latter.

But, of course, when someone told me some company was coming out with a solid state memory version of a walkman, I thought that was a dumb idea too so what the fuck do I know.
Post under your real name...you fag.
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I will be impressed if this site breaks alexa 10k
With content like this (just updated today) - how can it now break it?
http://www.*************************/...rtthatcum.html
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OK...

Homes are given away with the hope that the new home owners will pay to have their lawn mowed and gutters cleaned, by maintenance companies that will give the previous home owners a kick back for bringing them the business.

Yes, they may get a lifetime of kick backs from these maintenance companies, but they lost the house.

This doesn't make sense in any business model you try to apply it to. You don't take your best product and give it all away.
I agree, don't give up your argument.
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Congrats to our first sponsor:

www.sexsearch.com

straightdonwthetubes.com climb out of almost 0$ debt has begun
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www.sexsearch.com

straightdonwthetubes.com climb out of almost 0$ debt has begun
You spelled straightdonwthetubes.com wrong, that is why long domains suck. How do I know that, I just copied and pasted it to get me some free porn.
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Jay - you know I wish you and Dan all the good luck (you dont really need it) - and will see ya soon. Let me know if you need any help down the road or any links
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You spelled straightdonwthetubes.com wrong, that is why long domains suck. How do I know that, I just copied and pasted it to get me some free porn.
Nobody type domains into browers, they google them:
http://www.google.com/search?q=strai...ient=firefox-a
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Jay - you know I wish you and Dan all the good luck (you dont really need it) - and will see ya soon. Let me know if you need any help down the road or any links
Hey man...I sent you an ICQ...yes, I am interested
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you spelled straightdonwthetubes.com wrong, that is why long domains suck. How do i know that, i just copied and pasted it to get me some free porn. :oh crap
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Jay, the free Cam site should do pretty well. That will make you Rich for sure. Pay your girls a flat 50 bucks an hour and open the chat to everyone. Free chatting, free fucking, free masturbating, free cam2cam, free VIP.

The world's first free live fuck show.

Lets see how many people are going to have this by next week.
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replied and will do
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Yep, I am the industry's guinea pig.
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Yep, I am the industry's guinea pig.
It may actually work pretty good, you don't need to upsell to cam sites anymore but you can have members buy the girls gifts and tip them.

I can do the Age Verifying for you so you have legit people on the site. Hmm..we are getting somewhere here.
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along with my other questions above, i have another question now,

don't tubes update with *exclusive* content every day all day?
There is no tube site other than ours that has excluisve content on it

We shoot anywhere from nine to fifteen scenes per week.
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Are you paying a ton of money to make your own custom, exclusive content to add to it every day ?

there lies the problem. Sure tube sites with full length videos can make sales, but can you profit. If your content is dirt cheap or stolen you likely can. If you are paying to have custom content made to update a tube site, no way in hell you will make money. Sure he probably has a lot of content to kick it off with, but sooner or later he will run out and if he is really going to update it everyday with his own custom, exclusive content he will have a lot more cost than most tube sites.
It's my exclusive content that we using for the site.

I have been shooting content for over ten years and no one in this industry is as cost effective as I am.

My company has numerous revenues streams; live shows, US DVD sales, foregin DVD sales, worldwide broadcast, foreign liscening deals, mobile, subscription based sites, video on demand etc...

We are look at this as another revenue stream, one that Jay and I feel has the potential to be very, very lucrative.
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It may actually work pretty good, you don't need to upsell to cam sites anymore but you can have members buy the girls gifts and tip them.

I can do the Age Verifying for you so you have legit people on the site. Hmm..we are getting somewhere here.
Interesting.

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Linkster can you hit me up pls.
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i've already wacked off to it...............
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good luck with the concept. The only thing I don't like is the long hard to remember domain
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Both of these guys are pretty smart and have accomplished a lot in the adult business covering very different areas.

Both guys give the illusions of being stupid, but are very far from it. Porno Dan built out a Immoral productions in a shity economy. He has 8+ DVD titles a month, Live shows and broadcast deals all around the world. All this while pretending to be a blithering idiot.

XXXJay, well everyone knows what he has accomplished and you can look at his sig, if you dont know.

My point is that these guys are very smart and cover every single aspect of this adult industry from production, dvd sales,internet sales, internet marketing promotions,etc. Very long list, but you get the point.


This concept is very bold and outside of the box and i wish them both the best of luck

Thank you very, very much
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your design layout is utter crap, you look like a paysite when you hit the page and will lose surfers very fast.

wtf is the point of having a paysite look on a tube? you are defeating the entire purpose of it being a tube.

tubes do well because of content delivery your site screams "im going to have to signup to something"

whoever told you to have such a bulky header and menu bar should be fired.
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your search is also poorly placed
on channels your thumbs do not maximize space either
and the channels titles are to small
those thumbs are to small also look to much like "video thumbs"

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your middle part should be put in on a greyish bg so the main bg of the pipes doesnt look over repetative.

then eliminate the yellow bar have white titles on the movies and yellow titles tags for the heading.

your header for sure needs to be cut entirely and have content moved way up. it is important.

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http://www.*************************/...ina-wolf-.html

on pages like this where it says "movie info" have the movie titles you are shooting yourself in the foot on SE for no reason.

your title tags are also not named properly

thats about all i see.
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last thing i think it was mentioned your domain is utterly stupid and horrid. surfers dont get the joke and you are only trying to immaturely impress GFY "webmasters" with it.

invest in something shorter and quality that surfers can relate with.

o and i would start with less ads for now, surfers will gain trust and then you add ads thats how it is done this way. once you have that base it sometimes doesnt matter how much you smack on their. it is all about that base.

this way you can move up alot more content also. SEs will like you more also.

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last thing your header layout should not change from index to movie page, it makes it appear as a tour and some surfers will bail.

do yourself a favor and listen to what i have written, i spent a half hour breaking down your site. i am helping for free. drop your balls and make the changes it will help you in the long run.
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not gonna lie id scrap the overdone yellow also, way to much for a site dedicated to browsing. whoever told you they knew how to do tube sites was obviously lying to you. unless you spent like $300.

o and your menu should be txt not images, shooting yourself in the foot their also.

http://www.*************************/...andle_wide.gif

and what are these useless toilet rack looking bars? scrap those. waste of load time.

your footer is also massive and in the long run will take clicks away from your ads.

the background is pipes also when i think pipes i think plumbing, when i think plumbing i think urine and shit, and unless thats what your promoting i dont see how it would do anything but cause a negative turn on for horney surfers.

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hey Jay, I'll re-design it for a perm link to monstersofblog in the footer ;)
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hey MetaMan you got ICQ? Wanted to ask your "professional opinion" on something
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i dont use icq anymore.

i will send you an email tomorrow im going to pass out here in a sec.
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:21 AM   #146
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not gonna lie id scrap the overdone yellow also, way to much for a site dedicated to browsing. whoever told you they knew how to do tube sites was obviously lying to you. unless you spent like $300.

o and your menu should be txt not images, shooting yourself in the foot their also.

http://www.*************************/...andle_wide.gif

and what are these useless toilet rack looking bars? scrap those. waste of load time.

your footer is also massive and in the long run will take clicks away from your ads.

the background is pipes also when i think pipes i think plumbing, when i think plumbing i think urine and shit, and unless thats what your promoting i dont see how it would do anything but cause a negative turn on for horney surfers.
I threw this site together between Saturday and Sunday before the superbowl. There is still a ton of refining to do.

WITH THE BIRTH OF ART, COMES THE BIRTH OF THE CRITIC:



Get a life metaman.

I did this shit.

All you other assholes just sat around wounding "Will this work?"

Once again, like 2Pac, all eyes on me!

I AM A GOLDEN GOD!

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Old 02-09-2010, 02:26 AM   #147
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i dont use icq anymore.

i will send you an email tomorrow im going to pass out here in a sec.
sounds good brogasm thanks
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thoughts on what I said jay?
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it might do well for you, but I'm not liking the way this industry is going...
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:40 AM   #150
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Good luck with it, just hope its worth putting all your shit up for free to sell ads.
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