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Old 02-09-2010, 07:19 PM   #201
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:45 PM   #202
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:48 PM   #203
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If all the content contains "Porno Dan" this tube does not stand a chance.

All the big tubes have 1000's of full scenes, Straight Down The Tubes has what? 100 videos?

Don't know what all the hype here is about, this is not a game changer.

The download button doesn't even work. Fix that. Also you should be running some banners to upsell the paysites the actual scene is from.

You got it right!!!!

it looks all hot but no deep end content asn the catagories are pretty lame.
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:46 PM   #204
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Quoted for the truth

For all the haters/doubters - think about the amount of bottled water that is sold worldwide with one quarter of it sold in the US alone - and we have relatively cheap healthy tap water - beverage companies took an idea and stepped out on a limb - they now make billions of dollars a year from something that is widely available for free - its called marketing.

Years before the internet, the porn industry "gave away" (ok so it cost a quarter) porn clips in stores - knowing that those customers would buy 8mm reels of video - and they could get mailed all kinds of offers for anything from mags to toys as "upsells" and was extremely profitable

Going out on a limb here but I believe that anyone that can tap into a market so huge with a novel concept, will not only succeed - they will flourish while everyone sits and watches

Good luck to you Dan and Jay
Well put.

Linkster is a hardcore old-shcool guy and he get's it.

What is the matter with the rest of you retards?
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:48 PM   #205
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evan could have sold that domain for 4 billion dollars!!! what were you thinking jay?
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:33 AM   #206
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What are your projected traffic numbers in the next 6 months to a year?
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:09 AM   #207
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With content like this (just updated today) - how can it now break it?
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I agree with you and the content is greatMy only concern with this is that Dan will get tired. He is working so hard and even acting in the films?Jay all this needs for long term success if for you to help out and start acting in a few scenes! Just help out with the Romance and everything will be fine

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I agree with you and the content is greatMy only concern with this is that Dan will get tired.
True perverts may get tired sometimes but they never STAY tired.....Porno Dan looks like a true pervert to me.

I personally will never get "tired" of hitting the streets, finding a new bitch, and getting my dick sucked.
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What are your projected traffic numbers in the next 6 months to a year?
The traffic has doubled every day the site has been out. 3 days now lol

we are projecting 100k in 3 months time
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:35 PM   #210
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Just chiming in on the good luck bandwagon! I hope this works.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:42 PM   #211
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True perverts may get tired sometimes but they never STAY tired.....Porno Dan looks like a true pervert to me.

I personally will never get "tired" of hitting the streets, finding a new bitch, and getting my dick sucked.
Truest words in this thread.

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Old 02-10-2010, 08:38 PM   #212
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Dave you are such a hater. I've heard so much shit talked about you lately, but I won't bring it up on a public board.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:40 PM   #213
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I agree with you and the content is greatMy only concern with this is that Dan will get tired. He is working so hard and even acting in the films?Jay all this needs for long term success if for you to help out and start acting in a few scenes! Just help out with the Romance and everything will be fine

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Old 02-11-2010, 02:03 PM   #214
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You guys should consider making some bonus materials for the site, like interviews with porn girls, a pornstar quiz, interactive voting who should Dan fuck in the next episode, win a signed realtouch, backstage materials etc. some crazy stuff so it sticks out and keeps people entertained, I guess that's pretty much the way to retain.
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Old 02-11-2010, 02:16 PM   #215
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There is no tube site other than ours that has excluisve content on it

We shoot anywhere from nine to fifteen scenes per week.
You need to link to your own sites from your tube site if you want to make more money Dan

Good luck to you both! Will you be partnering with more studios? So far it's only Dan's stuff (not that I don't love you doll, just askin') Nice design.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:00 PM   #216
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I think this is an extreme valid point, Dan is great at what he does but variety is key in porn. Surfers dont give a fuck if free porn is exclusive. Theres 1 million places to go for variety.
We have 13 series that we shoot. I am in the "Snort That Cum" and "Squirtamania" ones and make cameo appereances in the others from time to time.

Sufers obvioulsy like exlcusive content - or else no one would still shoot it.


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I agree with you and the content is greatMy only concern with this is that Dan will get tired. He is working so hard and even acting in the films?Jay all this needs for long term success if for you to help out and start acting in a few scenes! Just help out with the Romance and everything will be fine

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Brillant idea, in fact the XXX Jay and Porno Dan show is coming back. For those of you that may remember we used to have a show on KSEX a couple years ago.

The XXX Jay and Porno Dan Show Version 2.0 is going to be twice as fun and twice as insane.

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True perverts may get tired sometimes but they never STAY tired.....Porno Dan looks like a true pervert to me.

I personally will never get "tired" of hitting the streets, finding a new bitch, and getting my dick sucked.
Yes, I am a true pervert, and will never get tired of getting blown by new girls

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Good luck to you both! Will you be partnering with more studios? So far it's only Dan's stuff (not that I don't love you doll, just askin') Nice design.
Yes, we will adding links as soon as possible

We have no plans to add other studios right now, but anything is possible in the future.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:20 PM   #217
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Will you be partnering with more studios? So far it's only Dan's stuff (not that I don't love you doll, just askin') Nice design.
Right now it is just Dan, he put his nuts on the table, so I am going to stay loyal to him. If it become necessary to bring in more producers down the line for growth, I will do so, but not at the present time.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:31 PM   #219
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You guys should consider making some bonus materials for the site, like interviews with porn girls, a pornstar quiz, interactive voting who should Dan fuck in the next episode, win a signed realtouch, backstage materials etc. some crazy stuff so it sticks out and keeps people entertained, I guess that's pretty much the way to retain.
Yes Carlos, all things like that are being planned.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:31 PM   #222
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i dont really know how to say this without coming off as an asshole, but people like to see large dicks in their porn and what you are offering misses the mark..

maybe i am wrong and people want to see porn that represents what the average person has in terms of size, but for me i dont want to watch porn that has a male with a smaller offering than i have..

on that note, i hope your new venture works..




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i dont really know how to say this without coming off as an asshole, but people like to see large dicks in their porn and what you are offering misses the mark..

maybe i am wrong and people want to see porn that represents what the average person has in terms of size, but for me i dont want to watch porn that has a male with a smaller offering than i have..

on that note, i hope your new venture works..




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So you are saying "marketsmart loves big dicks"?

I'm pretty sure Dan is fine with his small penis.
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Steve Hirsch said "Maybe the best way to fight free is with free, but as of now, the economics don't make sense. You're not able to get enough advertisers to come in where it would really make sense to give your content away, so the key is high quality content, exclusive stars. If you have that, you can sort of carve out a niche for yourself and people would come to your site."
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The industry's trouble is of its own creation -- or more specifically, of Scott Coffman's. He's president and CEO of the Adult Entertainment Broadcast Network (AEBN).

In 2006, he launched the adult industry's version of YouTube, called PornoTube, which has become the leading provider of on-demand adult videos online. Users can upload video clips or photos for anyone to see at no cost.

"We launched PornoTube like everyone else, looking for traffic, and it skyrocketed," Coffman said.

But now Coffman has some regrets, admitting he thought the site would encourage users to purchase porn instead of pirate it.

"That was the worst thing I've done since I was in the adult business," he said.
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Steve Hirsch said "Maybe the best way to fight free is with free, but as of now, the economics don't make sense. You're not able to get enough advertisers to come in where it would really make sense to give your content away, so the key is high quality content, exclusive stars. If you have that, you can sort of carve out a niche for yourself and people would come to your site."
Yawn....
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Yawn....
interesting that you yawn at producing high quality content as a legitimate way to deal with the current state of affairs.

either way, i don't have a dog in this fight, i couldn't care less if you end up on top of the heap, at the bottom or right where you are.

i asked some honest direct questions and raised some good points in this thread in regards to the business concept and they went unanswered/not taken seriously.
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"Surfers today want to watch porn for free, so why not give them fresh exclusive brand new scenes to view every single day."

It has always been like that. Even with good ratios like 1:100 on the traditional model, you still had 99 surfers who did not subscribe. And now ratios are getting worse, so you want to compensate by monetize those freebies with alternative ads? Well that will work if you target the (growing) traffic and keep the costs down. But in the end, it's about general economy and competition, and I can't see which competitive advantages that gives, if everyone do this. Sooner or later, economy is back on the track, and, if lucky, piracy face harder times, but then we all created a bunch of freebies instead.
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interesting that you yawn at producing high quality content as a legitimate way to deal with the current state of affairs.

either way, i don't have a dog in this fight, i couldn't care less if you end up on top of the heap, at the bottom or right where you are.

i asked some honest direct questions and raised some good points in this thread in regards to the business concept and they went unanswered/not taken seriously.
It is to be expected.

I always snicker at decades of business models showing free doesn't work. The most recent being the dot com bubble. Yet 10 years later, a bunch of pornographers think that THEY can ignore business 101 and somehow out smart the economics and endless examples of fail throughout history.

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The biggest problem is that all the tubes and websites are run by men. If they were run by women, they would not measure cocks and go for the hole football team. They would not focus on selling muscle and viagra pills, but go for teasing the one man with the creditcard. Maybe if you all start thinking like women and lay off the macho style, it may work
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Interesting idea, create tube and grow it with GFY traffic.
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And the traffic is only going to grow and grow.
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And the traffic is only going to grow and grow.
Too bad your bank account wont do the same.
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Today is a great day to contact Jay about advertising on our site.

Lock in on the low prices today, before it's too late.
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The biggest problem is that all the tubes and websites are run by men. If they were run by women, they would not measure cocks and go for the hole football team. They would not focus on selling muscle and viagra pills, but go for teasing the one man with the creditcard. Maybe if you all start thinking like women and lay off the macho style, it may work
Well said.

I do not wish evil on jay and his homeslice to fail. Whether they succeed or fail effects me none. I do not have a dog in the fight. I am simply citing past business models.

If it works, great. Jay Bong is a pioneer and everyone will copy him first, then buy him BRO drinks at the conferences. It if fails, he will be openly mocked and have his balls kicked in on GFY and forums. Not that he would care. However, people will still high five, and buy BRO drinks at the conferences.

Little changes either way in the grand scheme of things.
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If it works, great. Jay Bong is a pioneer and everyone will copy him first, then buy him BRO drinks at the conferences. It if fails, he will be openly mocked and have his balls kicked in on GFY and forums. Not that he would care. However, people will still high five, and buy BRO drinks at the conferences.
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Can someone explain to me how giving away exclusive content, full length videos, for free, is going to benefit anyone?

Is this what porn has become? Is this what all of you will follow next? Exclusive free porn?

If so, kiss this industry good-bye within 24 months.
Maybe Dan gave him this idea after Dominic punched him in the head ???
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Will you guys remove all the signup pages from your main sites and redirect them to the new Tube Site? Why charge and take a chance on a chargeback?

They will eventually find the tube site with the same exclusive content then feel they were ripped off.
Then they can call their banks and say, Their $29.95 went straight down the tubes.
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That art of blowjobs site is beautiful.....I'm stunned.
Yeah, the only thing worse than giving all of your porn to a surfer for free, is charging them 30 bucks a month to watch the same girl suck the same dick in every scene.

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