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TDF · 03-22-2010, 06:03 PM

100 hacked databases

Chris · 03-22-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang

Two wrongs don't make a right. And if that WAS what happened it would take some gall to ask for the original money back.

lori never stole anything

jessie and his partner had been told to use linking codes that belonged to lori on a site they had been working on for lori - instead they use their own codes instead of lori's

hence stealing all the sales the site generated..and then used lori's contacts they got to dev other sites

epitome · 03-22-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Adult Broker

Wow- thread got long fast

I was told about it when it started but I've been on conference calls all day doing deals which were more of a priority.

With that said - I've been waiting a long time for u to post
on boards- why you ask you weren't paid or
why I waited?

Because I leanred long ago some
of
the moves you made with my site and helped yourself to backend data, contacts, revenues and more.

I've been sitting and watching behind the scenes for months- I may have been down and out of commission last year but I don't stay down for long - you should
know after my 8 years in business I'm not that naive.

So I let you roll Jease and funny how
u contact me for
money within 36 hours if my shutting down GayPornCenter-since not
one linking code was going to me and figured since 'someone' was
on the take my shutting it
down only lost for the person who was capitalizing on it.

My attorney will be on touch with you and the 'other webmaster' ' who had access to the backend.

And your stories of high electricty bills, tent due, fights with boyfriend etc-- well I paid out on sympathy enough last year. Along with designers for u, helping you start your other site ( didn't know I was populating it and feeding more
money from GPC backend though) yea- lots more evidence an data-

so Jesse- you are drama and you have appeared again out of the woodwork right aftet we shut down GPC and it's links-

very interesting-
thanks for
posting because I was waiting - I don't like to call people out but u left me no choclice- but feells good since me and TAB team figured things out few months ago but I know how
u roll so I just sat patiently.

Barron Holdings, LLC -- u will be hearing from our attorney and believe you will end up owing me a pretty penny that I'd rightfully mine.

I am back in full force and business booming and shutting down GPC and not being able
to serve those
companies for exposure is a sad decision but im the best Interest of them as well as TAB- the channel was cut off.

And technically what occurred with GPC- any sites that were on it were taken for a ride
too as their payouts, info, data, contact etc was freely utilized by 'someone'

Moreover- why were u still using GPC email address in Jan of 2010 when u went MIA on me mid last year aftet asking me for
more money to help u and use my team to help start your other biz which I believe
u owe me percentages on- yep- I know all that too.

If u want to create drama- go for
it.

I have business to do and deals to make and the Phoenix has risen again- you can kick someone when they are down - but
I had enough of that-

I said
on a thread awhile
ago cleaning up and climbing the mountains. 90% complete so far and when I say 'cleaning up' that
Included digging Into each area of
life and I have uncovered a lot
of Interesting happenings.

I just
moved on from u until u busted a move like this which I knew you would so here I am

feel free to post whatever u want. Remember I too have examples of
things and then of course all that we discovered. But not wasting my time
posting it here- I have deals waiting and it's been a record month especially in mobile.

Good
luck Jesse- you'll be heating from me again- just not on this thread.

Thanks to everyone who posted - good and bad - at end of the day- this poker hand played beautifully. Again I am not perfect but I know
I stand in my integrity and self respect and I appreciate all those that helped get me on my feet again so that I found the motivation and energy to delve in again and thanks to that support- I uncovered some
major things- Jesse and 'someone else' being a part of what I uncovered - I mean 15,000 hits a month on a site and not
one
payout on my codes?

live and Learn- that I have and now I am rocking for all those that were my Rick.

Thank you and have an outstanding day!

Best,
Lori Z.
THE Adult Broker

So- hope u will be prepared to get legal representation -
I

OK that's a long and incoherent and rambling post -- so unlike you.

So you've been "waiting and waiting and waiting" yet you discussed doing some separate biz with me?

As for your site being down -- just checked and it's a parked page. That would mean someone logged into Go Daddy and changed your DNS. You never shared your Go Daddy login info for me ... I never had a need for that. The only thing I had access to was a place to upload reviews I wrote and since I've had access you changed the CMS that you were using. So, passwords probably changed.

Anyway, GoDaddy has a huge legal/fraud department that will help you track that down.

If there was so much to steal, why are you shutting it down?

As for stealing contacts -- if that's the case, why when I was looking for a programmer did I think back to my NDA/non-compete with you and email you saying something along the lines of "hey, your programmer did a good job from what I could tell. I need someone, is it OK to contact him? I don't know how that works with you." You didn't respond and I didn't contact him.

Anyway, your attorney can subpoena my host for those emails.

By the sounds of it, you magically discovered a bunch of stuff awhile ago. Why are you only now mentioning? Why didn't you ask me any questions? Why didn't you respond to an email and say something like fuck off you little prick?

Why? Because you're lying. Plain and simple.

You're also calling me a scammer. Per the rules, post proof. All I accused you of is not paying a bill. If Eric would like the original invoice and screen shots from Epass showing how you paid the first half in October, so be it -- Eric, my email is in my sig.

Meanwhile, show Eric one piece of proof of what you're accusing me off.

You're the one with the shady track record over the last few months. Disappearing ... popping up in Hawaii ... not answering someone that wanted to do biz with you (remember that long thread?) ... excuse, excuse, excuse, excuse.

How about stop making excuses and pay what you owe?

I don't know what has happened to you, but you used to be such a sweet person.

Anyway, please post proof of your allegations. If you will give me permission, I will post the original invoice (since it contains what you may consider a trade secret), a screen shot from Epass showing the first half paid and emails from your crew saying the rest of my money would be forthcoming.

Then, post anything you have on me. Oh, that's nothing, because I didn't do anything except the work you specified in the time you specified and nothing more.

BTW, most of the money you owe me is for The Mobile Broker, not Gay Porn Center ... so nothing you say really makes any sense.

Agent 488 · 03-22-2010, 06:31 PM

why wouldn't you just switch the link codes back instead of killing the site. makes no sense.

also that amount of traffic isn't much over a month. you could easily have no sales in this economy.

Brujah · 03-22-2010, 06:32 PM

epitome, did you steal her sales by using your own referral codes instead of the ones she gave you to use?

candyflip · 03-22-2010, 06:34 PM

I think she should post proof or be banned just like anyone else.

She shouldn't get special treatment because she has a pussy and sob story.

Also...I see more allusions to her be a cocaine user. What's with that?

epitome · 03-22-2010, 06:37 PM

Oh yes, using GPC email address. Apparently, that did happen a few times to people I email just about every day. It was still setup in my Outlook for awhile and when I dropped down the box to select an account I may have selected the wrong one. That account was removed when I was doing some maintenance.

Anyway, go ahead and have your host post those emails. I remember one or two being personal in nature ... another one a mistake in an ongoing conversation where I typed something like "hey, did you register those domains?"

Go ahead and post each and every single one of them since they run through your server ... I have nothing to hide.

As for why I still had email access; I defer that question to you -- why did I? According to you I was some evil person that was trying to bring you down and rob you blind -- why would you leave my email activated? Wouldn't you disable anything I could possibly have access to?

As for no payout ... countless emails back and forth ... me telling you that you have to do something different ... at one point you saying you didn't have the money so maybe you would give me some ownership to make it convert for free ... always suggesting it but never doing anything to give me ownership -- hoping I'd make the changes for free.

Who is my partner?

Anyway, since you haven't gotten a check and you're convinced it was coming to me, you'll be able to trace the money back to me, right?

Adult isn't a porn biz ... there are money trails ... Epass payments trace back to someone ... checks are deposited by someone ...

I have proof that a lot of people had access to that site. You gave access to multiple contractors. You're just trying to blame your problems on someone and I'm that someone because I called you out on your game ... I exposed you as someone that apparently cannot pay a $205 debt and you're seething from it. It's obvious in your post.

Spend all of your money trying to prove something that didn't happen and I'll spend $35 more of mine to get my $205 out of you.

selena · 03-22-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

If you are hurting for $205.00 and you are in the Adult Biz, something is wrong.
Just write if off, no need to bring it to the boards.

Why not?

Why should anyone not expect payment, then bring it to the boards if necessary, no matter whether it is $20.50?

epitome · 03-22-2010, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

epitome, did you steal her sales by using your own referral codes instead of the ones she gave you to use?

No, and any sponsor can prove that ... so can the money trail (or, based on what she says, lack thereof ... in that case, signup IP's work ... NATS tracks those)

What I can show is that at least four different people had access to that site; all authorized by her.

Plus, let's not forget the fact that she changed that site all around months ago -- the only thing that remained that I ever did was a cut-n-paste job of the reviews that I wrote. Let's say she rebuilt it from the ground up in January (because I don't know) ... why have there been no sales since then? If I didn't have any access, how is that my fault?

epitome · 03-22-2010, 07:00 PM

As for the magically contacting you after the site is down ... as I understand it, you have fully managed dedicated hosting. That means there should be backups of your server. Nothing is gone because you decided to pull the site unless you order backups destroyed and if you do that, well then that is just shady, isn't it?

I'm sure I'll be thinking of things throughout the night. For the sake of everyone else, I'll try to avoid posting every time I think of how something she said makes zero sense. I can only promise that I'll try not to, not that I will be successful.

Sly · 03-22-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

As for the magically contacting you after the site is down ... as I understand it, you have fully managed dedicated hosting. That means there should be backups of your server. Nothing is gone because you decided to pull the site unless you order backups destroyed and if you do that, well then that is just shady, isn't it?

I'm sure I'll be thinking of things throughout the night. For the sake of everyone else, I'll try to avoid posting every time I think of how something she said makes zero sense. I can only promise that I'll try not to, not that I will be successful.

Having a dedicated server doesn't mean automatic backups. It is often an additional service that a lot of people do not buy.

MikeHawk · 03-22-2010, 07:09 PM

beemk · 03-22-2010, 07:10 PM

has anyone actually hired the adult broker and see a decent roi?

AaronM · 03-22-2010, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

Also...I see more allusions to her be a cocaine user. What's with that?

Punk ass haters.

baddog · 03-22-2010, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Having a dedicated server doesn't mean automatic backups. It is often an additional service that a lot of people do not buy.

A majority don't buy, I'd say.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

If you are hurting for $205.00 and you are in the Adult Biz, something is wrong.
Just write if off, no need to bring it to the boards.

Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

Brujah · 03-22-2010, 07:18 PM

Wagerboy · 03-22-2010, 07:21 PM

I dont know either one of the parties but seems like the female got owned by the male. He has all server/email records and sponsor payments to back up he didnt steal. Im thinking the female couldnt afford a public defender, forgot about her "lawyer" contacting the male. Just a surfer POV though...

candyflip · 03-22-2010, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

Wow. You have real actual health problems.

Lori had a breakdown and people were taking up donations.

beemk · 03-22-2010, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

Wow. You have real actual health problems.

Lori had a breakdown and people were taking up donations.

yeah, because she has a vagina.

selena · 03-22-2010, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

No one owes anyone an explanation for why they want to be paid money due to them.

baddog · 03-22-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

yeah, because she has a vagina.

She has been around a while. She has worked with a lot of people.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

Wow. You have real actual health problems.

Lori had a breakdown and people were taking up donations.

To her credit, she has Crohn's Disease too (well, she told me she had it after I told her I had it ... but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt and saying she does) and it's a hell of a disease.

If everything she said in that thread was true, then those problems could have very well led to a flare up for her and she could have very easily had her problems compounded.

My personal take on the situation is that it was never supposed to go this far. I don't air my dirty laundry on the boards and I'm pretty sure she was aware of it. Despite my email promises to "take it to the boards" I didn't a few times and would email back pretty much saying I'm serious this time, please pay me or I'm taking it to the boards.

I can be a big pushover when I let myself be one. I kept giving her the benefit of the doubt. For awhile it would have been nice to have the money but I survived without it. The present comes and I actually need it. I'm stressing over this electric bill and the disrespect shown by outright ignoring me was the breaking straw.

Remember when I said she was rude about my own personal problems but didn't want to go into details? Well, here goes ... everyone knows the money situation now so I have nothing to lose...

When I was doing work for her my Internet was shut off. I told her I'd hustle to get the money by text message. I no longer have it but she sent back really nasty like "Jesse, I have a business to run and I do not have time for your problems. Get the work done."

I was writing reviews for her at the time. I stayed up all night surfing sites from my phone and writing the reviews on my computer. When the morning came, I called and paid by check and managed to cover that check in time.

That text message stung so bad. Prior to that she was well aware of my problems and seemed truly sympathetic. At most we were talking about a 24 or 48 hour delay in doing my work. I hate even being 5 seconds late (by the way, there are plenty of gay sponsors that can vouch for my work and my turnaround) but based on what I've read on this board, to get something only 24 to 48 hours late is a freaking miracle.

Anyway, I ended up getting her work done on time. I busted my ass squinting at my cell phone all night but it got done and it got done correctly. How do I know I did it correctly? She put it up on her sites...

I remember that text message so vividly because she was so demeaning and attempted to minimize my own problems. Meanwhile, this is the woman that said riding on her coat tails would bring me amazing things. It looks like all it brought was an unpaid debt.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 03-22-2010, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I'll give you the rundown.

In many threads I mention that I used to be in real estate. I've had Crohn's since I was 16. I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else (not possible unless I get a lot of sick days) because of my pre-existing condition.

Without insurance, you tend to push things with your health until it's too late.

In late October 2008, I pushed it too far and needed a colostomy. There were some complications (hernia around the incision and they couldn't re-operate) with the surgery and I had a hard time getting used to the bag. I went six months without working.

Things were rough and running like I used to for 16 hours a day will never be an option again.

Last April, I thought "I was briefly in the porn biz in '02...let me give that another go." I literally started with two domains and $8 virtual hosting.

In under a year I've grown that into multiple thousands of dollars a month but I'm still a little short each month from being comfortable. There is always one or two bills eating away at me ... this time it's my yearly heating bill ... $1700 due on April 1st and another $600 due 30 days after or they shut off my power. I've got a lot of that covered but still need some more.

I'm at that point where I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have some amazing things in development, some great ops going on, but the money is just not all the way there yet.

The other day you reminded people that you used to bounce checks. If I had to guess where I am right now, I'm probably at the point you were right when you were writing that last check that was going to bounce. That point where no matter how promising the future is, you still have BIG problems.

I didn't want to give my sob story, but I am one of those people that says "if you're only making X, you shouldn't be in adult." To my credit, I did start in probably the worst year to start and started with $0. In fact, I've spent less than $50 in traffic to date because all of my income goes into regaining the life I had pre-surgery.

Almost there...

That is why $205 can be so important despite being in adult. My traffic growth, ratios and other numbers say I shouldn't go anywhere.

My bad bud.
I did apologize later in the thread.

I'm not usually that cruel.
Please send me your email, maybe there is something we can do to help out with sales or even a donation for the cause. We have all been there as you remember with my story. Hang in there.

From earlier.
------------------

Sounds like there is more to the story epitome so I apologies for my comment.
It sounds like you have tried working things out but the lack of communications is what made you post here.

Hope you guys work it out.

Brujah · 03-22-2010, 07:40 PM

So what do you do epitome? Write text for sites?

Semi-Retired-Dave · 03-22-2010, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

So what do you do epitome? Write text for sites?

Good question, what can we all do to help?

kush · 03-22-2010, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Dave, I respect you and I agree with what you're saying, so I cannot get health insurance unless I'm working for someone else.

Actually, there's a way around that.

Basically, I'm self employed. But I have a corporation under my name as well.

Affiliate checks are sent to my corporation, and my corporation pays a human resources company to hire me and pay me a salary, and through that human resources company I receive health insurance as part of a very large group plan that accepts you regardless of preexisting conditions. My company technically leases "me" from the human resources company which has a big enough pool of employees that this type of 1-cost-for-all plan is available and you are accepted pre-existing conditions or not (they don't even ask).

There ya go

Edit - FYI it costs about $20/week admin cost for this human resources service. And best of luck with your situation.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Good question, what can we all do to help?

Thanks, brujah and Dave and the few that have contacted my privately.

I am a chief cook and bottle washer.

Writing seems to be what I end up doing the most. I've done site reviews, scene descriptions, blog posts, you name it...

The most exciting thing I am doing these days for others is helping a smaller affiliate program expand. They had limited affiliate tools and I have set them up with FHG's, sponsor hosted blog, POTD, etc. I also give input on what affiliates love and what they hate. It is an ongoing project that may never end. He reported by email today that he is extremely happy with his return thus far.

I also just started writing and re-writing things for a big site. This includes site descriptions of a few sentences for a site directory and condensing their longer reviews into shorter ones for another area on their site.

I am currently building a few new sites and I am like a kid in a candy store. I can work for 8 hours straight and it feels like 30 seconds.

The working for others helps me plug the holes. I have a few ongoing clients but when an unexpected bill lands in my mailbox, I fire up a message on the boards saying I'm available and I get work.

My days currently look like this: 1 to 4 hours managing and growing my existing sites, 4 to 7 hours on new sites, 2 to 5 hours working on what my clients need that day.

I am always available to look at jobs or projects. If it's something I cannot do or do not want to do, I will be the first one to say it.

Sly · 03-22-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kush

Actually, there's a way around that.

Basically, I'm self employed. But I have a corporation under my name as well.

Affiliate checks are sent to my corporation, and my corporation pays a human resources company to hire me and pay me a salary, and through that human resources company I receive health insurance as part of a very large group plan that accepts you regardless of preexisting conditions. My company technically leases "me" from the human resources company which has a big enough pool of employees that this type of 1-cost-for-all plan is available and you are accepted pre-existing conditions or not (they don't even ask).

There ya go

Edit - FYI it costs about $20/week admin cost for this human resources service. And best of luck with your situation.

I'm assuming that is a service offered by a company? Who offers that?

epitome · 03-22-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

Epitome, I'm so sorry to hear about your health situation. My best friend has Crohns. Have your tried probiotics at all? Do they help?

I don't know how much you want to get into on the boards, but I'm very familliar with GI probs. If you ever want to feel free to hit me up on ICQ if you want to talk about it. I might have some good advice that can help, but also if you just want someone to listen, anytime.

Sorry, Shelly, I am just getting to reading from the beginning again to make sure I have not missed anyone.

I've tried just about everything. Probiotics is new to me but if they go by any other name then I have probably tried them. My main problems are infections. Remicade worked wonders for a few years but it eventually stopped.

I started getting more frequent bowel obstructions which is why we went the colostomy route. I should have gotten this thing years ago but was always afraid of it. Oh was I ever misinformed!

I still get infections but they are not as severe. I've also had some other weird things happen to me, but overall I am the healthiest I have been for while.

One thing scares the shit of me. I have a lytic lesion on my spine that grows between CT scans. If they don't grow, you're fine...if they do grow, it may be nothing or it may be cancer. Naturally, I cannot afford to see a specialist or get the tests done. I'm always tired but my appetite is healthy and its been well over a year since it was discovered. I'm thinking its not cancer. I'll get worried if I start shedding weight.

As for all of the pain I have, the pain meds keep them in check. Everything else is tolerable so long as I do not have much pain.

I've heard that with the new bill that passed I may be able to purchase health insurance starting in 2014. I'll make sure I stick around to find out.

kush · 03-22-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I'm assuming that is a service offered by a company? Who offers that?

http://www.human-capital.com/

And that was $20/week per employee. Good company I've been using them for about 5 years.

Waddymelon · 03-22-2010, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

If you are hurting for $205.00 and you are in the Adult Biz, something is wrong.
Just write if off, no need to bring it to the boards.

Awesome!! I'm going to say to electric company.

"If you are hurting for $205 and you are in the utility business, something is wrong. Just write it off, no need to turn off my power."

I'm sure that Edison Electric makes WAY more than you do, so they should clearly see the logic in this!

I'm gonna say that to all my hosting companies as well.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

ill sum it up since most of you are tl;dr

jessie and his partner populated a site for lori ... lori paid them out many times ....lori noticed she was not getting paid from sponsors...she noticed that none of the linking codes carried the name she asked..instead used a name that belonged to them .... asked for account infos many times .. got nothing

asked for email list got nothing

used the site they had been working on for lori to build another site using her contacts

Post proof.

What did I do or want to do with her contacts? And what contacts?

Hardly anyone on the gay side knows who she is and that is where I peddle my wares.

In fact, if I wanted anything to do with her business, I wouldn't have told her that thegaybroker.com wasn't registered and for her to register it herself. Yeah, go look at the reg date ... want email or ICQ logs of that convo (forgot where we talked about it, but all of my ICQ's and emails are always saved).

98% of what I do is on the gay side of the business. I don't want or need her contacts. I have plenty of my own.

kristin · 03-22-2010, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush

http://www.human-capital.com/

And that was $20/week per employee. Good company I've been using them for about 5 years.

It's brilliant.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 09:44 PM

Alexa rank of site Lori is all worked up over: 1,297,737

Alexa ranking of site I built in September/October: 135,641

Yup, I'd be nowhere without TAB!

Oh the best part ... my site with Alexa 135k ... I used to force her 300 hits a day to help her build her own site up. What did I charge her? $0. So, some of that historic Alexa is thanks for me. What did I get out of it? Shit on!

She was kind enough to let me fly some banners and a text link on her site. I did appreciate the 3 to 6 hits a day that gave me.

dyna mo · 03-22-2010, 09:50 PM

a self-employed friend setup his corp then setup a group insurance policy for all his employees (himself)

fris · 03-22-2010, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk

has anyone actually hired the adult broker and see a decent roi?

doubt it.

ShellyCrash · 03-22-2010, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

Sorry, Shelly, I am just getting to reading from the beginning again to make sure I have not missed anyone.

I've tried just about everything. Probiotics is new to me but if they go by any other name then I have probably tried them. My main problems are infections. Remicade worked wonders for a few years but it eventually stopped.

I started getting more frequent bowel obstructions which is why we went the colostomy route. I should have gotten this thing years ago but was always afraid of it. Oh was I ever misinformed!

I still get infections but they are not as severe. I've also had some other weird things happen to me, but overall I am the healthiest I have been for while.

One thing scares the shit of me. I have a lytic lesion on my spine that grows between CT scans. If they don't grow, you're fine...if they do grow, it may be nothing or it may be cancer. Naturally, I cannot afford to see a specialist or get the tests done. I'm always tired but my appetite is healthy and its been well over a year since it was discovered. I'm thinking its not cancer. I'll get worried if I start shedding weight.

As for all of the pain I have, the pain meds keep them in check. Everything else is tolerable so long as I do not have much pain.

I've heard that with the new bill that passed I may be able to purchase health insurance starting in 2014. I'll make sure I stick around to find out.

You'd probably want to talk to someone since you've already gone the colostomy route just to make sure this is kosher. Probiotics are good bacteria that helps ballance the bacteria in your intestines and help break down food to make digestion easier. This is what I can tell you:

I don't want to make this a tl;dr so in a nutshell I had a massive GI tract infection. They kept misdiagnosing me, it took them about 2 years to figure out what was wrong, so for two years I had a bacterial infection wreaking havoc on my body. I couldn't keep any food in, and it was just as much vomiting as anything else. All my tests for things like crohns, h.pylori, gluten allergy, etc, all came back negative and all signs pointed to cancer.

Luckily I found a doctor who was able to figure out the puzzle and one of the things he put me on to help my recovery was a probiotic designed for people with Ulcerative Colitis. It's not cheap, but to me when I was trying to rebuild the flora in my GI tract this stuff was my savior. It's called VSL#3- http://www.vsl3.com/

My best friend was diagnosed with Crohns when she was around 10. She takes a cheaper probiotic to help her maintain her crohns that is much more affordable. She get's acidophilous from the health food store, the good probiotics are kept refrigerated, and you'll want to keep them refrigerated too. Her sister is also a very good friend of mine and she just tested positive for crohn's last year. Her flares are very few and very light so she's not really doing anything to manage right now.

I'm doing much better. I'm barely sick anymore, but I've had to make alot of diet changes. I rarely have to take probiotics anymore, but every now and then I'll get a bad week where I will need to. I don't know if I'll ever be normal again. Most days I'm good but sometimes I still get that burning from the inside - like my guts are trying to eat themselves. I have ulcers too so sometimes my pain level can get pretty serious, but that usually only happens when I have to take something for my migraines.

I would look into the HR company info that was provided and see what you can do. I know it's hard when you don't have two pennies to rub together, but the sooner you can get that checked the better. Tumors aren't always cancerous, but sometimes at bipsy they will find "pre-cancer" cells. You always want to catch things as early as possible to increase the effectiveness of any treatment you may need.

I feel for you, you're awesome for having such a good attitude about it. I salute you

epitome · 03-22-2010, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

lori never stole anything

jessie and his partner had been told to use linking codes that belonged to lori on a site they had been working on for lori - instead they use their own codes instead of lori's

hence stealing all the sales the site generated..and then used lori's contacts they got to dev other sites

Again, who was my partner? You have absolutely no idea what is going on other than what was fed to you.

Ask Lori to show you every email or ICQ ever exchanged. Show me a single example of even the slightest hint that I was anything but a one-man show last year.

This is a warning to those that are intimately connected to this and currently working on an ICQ smear campaign behind my back ... just remember that if there is one thing that the adult industry loves, it is gossip. Cut-n-paste can be your best friend or worst nightmare. Remember anything that you tell someone else is only private if they choose for it to remain that way...

Press Release Pro · 03-22-2010, 10:20 PM

Did anyone post any evidence yet ?

TheAmericanCannibal · 03-22-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

Is someone pushing their Broker / PR services in this thread? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times but can't seem to see anyone trying to capitalize off of this?

For the record I didn't come here promoting my PR services.
In fact I dont come here to promote anything other than http://www.2257safe.com these days.

Don't be like Dirty D- take some precautions before it's too late- store your records with a trusted THIRD PARTY CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS

epitome · 03-22-2010, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

My bad bud.
I did apologize later in the thread.

I'm not usually that cruel.
Please send me your email, maybe there is something we can do to help out with sales or even a donation for the cause. We have all been there as you remember with my story. Hang in there.

From earlier.
------------------

Sounds like there is more to the story epitome so I apologies for my comment.
It sounds like you have tried working things out but the lack of communications is what made you post here.

Hope you guys work it out.

Don't worry, you've always been a good one in my book. You'd have to say something a lot worse than that to make me question your likability.

I saw on page 1 or 2 where you re-read it closer and apologized.

We're good!

epitome · 03-22-2010, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush

Actually, there's a way around that.

Basically, I'm self employed. But I have a corporation under my name as well.

Affiliate checks are sent to my corporation, and my corporation pays a human resources company to hire me and pay me a salary, and through that human resources company I receive health insurance as part of a very large group plan that accepts you regardless of preexisting conditions. My company technically leases "me" from the human resources company which has a big enough pool of employees that this type of 1-cost-for-all plan is available and you are accepted pre-existing conditions or not (they don't even ask).

There ya go

Edit - FYI it costs about $20/week admin cost for this human resources service. And best of luck with your situation.

That is awesome! If you don't mind, I am going hit you up by email tomorrow and hopefully you'll point me to a good company that can do just that!

I can swing $20 a week. I'm putting out a little shy of $1k a month in medical expenses so anything will be a big improvement!

epitome · 03-22-2010, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush

http://www.human-capital.com/

And that was $20/week per employee. Good company I've been using them for about 5 years.

I didn't get this far down before posting. I really appreciate you making me aware of this company.

The workaround I have been working towards was being able to hire someone because I'd then qualify for my own small business plan. I can sign up with this company a lot sooner than I can hire someone.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

You'd probably want to talk to someone since you've already gone the colostomy route just to make sure this is kosher. Probiotics are good bacteria that helps ballance the bacteria in your intestines and help break down food to make digestion easier. This is what I can tell you:

I don't want to make this a tl;dr so in a nutshell I had a massive GI tract infection. They kept misdiagnosing me, it took them about 2 years to figure out what was wrong, so for two years I had a bacterial infection wreaking havoc on my body. I couldn't keep any food in, and it was just as much vomiting as anything else. All my tests for things like crohns, h.pylori, gluten allergy, etc, all came back negative and all signs pointed to cancer.

Luckily I found a doctor who was able to figure out the puzzle and one of the things he put me on to help my recovery was a probiotic designed for people with Ulcerative Colitis. It's not cheap, but to me when I was trying to rebuild the flora in my GI tract this stuff was my savior. It's called VSL#3- http://www.vsl3.com/

My best friend was diagnosed with Crohns when she was around 10. She takes a cheaper probiotic to help her maintain her crohns that is much more affordable. She get's acidophilous from the health food store, the good probiotics are kept refrigerated, and you'll want to keep them refrigerated too. Her sister is also a very good friend of mine and she just tested positive for crohn's last year. Her flares are very few and very light so she's not really doing anything to manage right now.

I'm doing much better. I'm barely sick anymore, but I've had to make alot of diet changes. I rarely have to take probiotics anymore, but every now and then I'll get a bad week where I will need to. I don't know if I'll ever be normal again. Most days I'm good but sometimes I still get that burning from the inside - like my guts are trying to eat themselves. I have ulcers too so sometimes my pain level can get pretty serious, but that usually only happens when I have to take something for my migraines.

I would look into the HR company info that was provided and see what you can do. I know it's hard when you don't have two pennies to rub together, but the sooner you can get that checked the better. Tumors aren't always cancerous, but sometimes at bipsy they will find "pre-cancer" cells. You always want to catch things as early as possible to increase the effectiveness of any treatment you may need.

I feel for you, you're awesome for having such a good attitude about it. I salute you

Very interesting and I appreciate you taking the time to type that out. I have something else to look into.

I am not a big natural remedy person myself, but I do believe in the power of bacteria and such. After all, we only have penicillin, one of the most effective drugs ever invented, because of mold.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

For the record I didn't come here promoting my PR services.
In fact I dont come here to promote anything other than http://www.2257safe.com these days.

Don't be like Dirty D- take some precautions before it's too late- store your records with a trusted THIRD PARTY CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS

You don't have to spam this thread, anyway. You already know that I am a happy customer of 2257safe.com!

kush · 03-22-2010, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

I didn't get this far down before posting. I really appreciate you making me aware of this company.

The workaround I have been working towards was being able to hire someone because I'd then qualify for my own small business plan. I can sign up with this company a lot sooner than I can hire someone.

The health insurance itself is currently about $460 a month per employee. The $20/week is the admin fee. To qualify for insurance you have to pay yourself at least minimum wage at 40hrs/week, not to mention social security,federal/state income tax, FUTA, SUTA... I'm sorry I hope my post wasn't interpretted as $20/week insurance! They calculate all that for you, handle the papers, and deduct it from your business banking account, you get a w2 at the end of the year.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 11:06 PM

On that note, I think I am all caught up with posts that I felt warranted a response. If I missed you, I apologize.

To those that hung in there through my multiple posts, I appreciate it.

To those that have decided to hold judgment until the facts -- or should I say lack thereof -- come out, I appreciate that as well.

I did sign a NDA/Non-Compete so it probably wouldn't be wise on my part to "post proof" until I get permission from the other side. On that note, I have nothing to hide, so if that permission is given, then be prepared for a PDF that will take up a little bit of space on your drive.

In the meantime, I am waiting for proof of the allegations made against me by Lori, Chris and Julie. It's 11 PM on the west coast so I will give through tomorrow until I go through the official channels to request that the board rules be enforced.

In the meantime, I give full permission to Lori Z. to post anything business related that is definitive proof of the allegations. Let me reiterate the words business related.

epitome · 03-22-2010, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kush

The health insurance itself is currently about $460 a month per employee. The $20/week is the admin fee. To qualify for insurance you have to pay yourself at least minimum wage at 40hrs/week, not to mention social security,federal/state income tax, FUTA, SUTA... I'm sorry I hope my post wasn't interpretted as $20/week insurance! They calculate all that for you, handle the papers, and deduct it from your business banking account, you get a w2 at the end of the year.

Oh no, I got you the first time ... anyone that would underwrite me for $20/wk. doesn't deserve to be in business.

I don't know how they charge only $20 a week for the admin fee considering all that they do. They must be running a really tight ship and if you've been using them for five years and they are still around then they must have found a way!

Goodnight, GFY! I'm exhausted!

I have a feeling that I am nowhere closer to getting the money that is due to me, which is quite sad. Here's to hoping this thread doesn't have to get as long as the Curious Cash one!

The Adult Broker · 03-22-2010, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam_WildCash

Good on you Lori! Hope to see you in Phoenix

Hi Adam, Hope all is great down under! Thanks and yep, will see you in Phoenix and I will have more deals for you

03-22-2010, 06:03 PM	#101
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	100 hacked databases __________________ Sig heil

03-22-2010, 06:32 PM	#105
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	epitome, did you steal her sales by using your own referral codes instead of the ones she gave you to use? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

03-22-2010, 06:34 PM	#106
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	I think she should post proof or be banned just like anyone else. She shouldn't get special treatment because she has a pussy and sob story. Also...I see more allusions to her be a cocaine user. What's with that? __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me Last edited by candyflip; 03-22-2010 at 06:35 PM..

03-22-2010, 07:09 PM	#112
MikeHawk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In bed with Harley Girl....Not sleepin Posts: 6,683	__________________ THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

03-22-2010, 07:10 PM	#113
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	has anyone actually hired the adult broker and see a decent roi? __________________ I host with Vacares

03-22-2010, 06:31 PM	#104
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	why wouldn't you just switch the link codes back instead of killing the site. makes no sense. also that amount of traffic isn't much over a month. you could easily have no sales in this economy.

03-22-2010, 06:37 PM	#107
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	Oh yes, using GPC email address. Apparently, that did happen a few times to people I email just about every day. It was still setup in my Outlook for awhile and when I dropped down the box to select an account I may have selected the wrong one. That account was removed when I was doing some maintenance. Anyway, go ahead and have your host post those emails. I remember one or two being personal in nature ... another one a mistake in an ongoing conversation where I typed something like "hey, did you register those domains?" Go ahead and post each and every single one of them since they run through your server ... I have nothing to hide. As for why I still had email access; I defer that question to you -- why did I? According to you I was some evil person that was trying to bring you down and rob you blind -- why would you leave my email activated? Wouldn't you disable anything I could possibly have access to? As for no payout ... countless emails back and forth ... me telling you that you have to do something different ... at one point you saying you didn't have the money so maybe you would give me some ownership to make it convert for free ... always suggesting it but never doing anything to give me ownership -- hoping I'd make the changes for free. Who is my partner? Anyway, since you haven't gotten a check and you're convinced it was coming to me, you'll be able to trace the money back to me, right? Adult isn't a porn biz ... there are money trails ... Epass payments trace back to someone ... checks are deposited by someone ... I have proof that a lot of people had access to that site. You gave access to multiple contractors. You're just trying to blame your problems on someone and I'm that someone because I called you out on your game ... I exposed you as someone that apparently cannot pay a $205 debt and you're seething from it. It's obvious in your post. Spend all of your money trying to prove something that didn't happen and I'll spend $35 more of mine to get my $205 out of you.

03-22-2010, 07:00 PM	#110
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	As for the magically contacting you after the site is down ... as I understand it, you have fully managed dedicated hosting. That means there should be backups of your server. Nothing is gone because you decided to pull the site unless you order backups destroyed and if you do that, well then that is just shady, isn't it? I'm sure I'll be thinking of things throughout the night. For the sake of everyone else, I'll try to avoid posting every time I think of how something she said makes zero sense. I can only promise that I'll try not to, not that I will be successful.

03-22-2010, 07:18 PM	#117
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	__________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

03-22-2010, 07:21 PM	#118
Wagerboy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,290	I dont know either one of the parties but seems like the female got owned by the male. He has all server/email records and sponsor payments to back up he didnt steal. Im thinking the female couldnt afford a public defender, forgot about her "lawyer" contacting the male. Just a surfer POV though... __________________ The Main Program That Makes Me Fucking Money!! Teens Getting Pounded

03-22-2010, 07:40 PM	#125
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	So what do you do epitome? Write text for sites? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

03-22-2010, 09:44 PM	#135
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	Alexa rank of site Lori is all worked up over: 1,297,737 Alexa ranking of site I built in September/October: 135,641 Yup, I'd be nowhere without TAB! Oh the best part ... my site with Alexa 135k ... I used to force her 300 hits a day to help her build her own site up. What did I charge her? $0. So, some of that historic Alexa is thanks for me. What did I get out of it? Shit on! She was kind enough to let me fly some banners and a text link on her site. I did appreciate the 3 to 6 hits a day that gave me.

03-22-2010, 09:50 PM	#136
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,914	a self-employed friend setup his corp then setup a group insurance policy for all his employees (himself)

03-22-2010, 10:20 PM	#140
Press Release Pro Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 228	Did anyone post any evidence yet ? __________________ PM me for Press related consulting work. Good PR / Bad PR / PR / Articles / Headliners When results matters morals comes second

03-22-2010, 11:06 PM	#148
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	On that note, I think I am all caught up with posts that I felt warranted a response. If I missed you, I apologize. To those that hung in there through my multiple posts, I appreciate it. To those that have decided to hold judgment until the facts -- or should I say lack thereof -- come out, I appreciate that as well. I did sign a NDA/Non-Compete so it probably wouldn't be wise on my part to "post proof" until I get permission from the other side. On that note, I have nothing to hide, so if that permission is given, then be prepared for a PDF that will take up a little bit of space on your drive. In the meantime, I am waiting for proof of the allegations made against me by Lori, Chris and Julie. It's 11 PM on the west coast so I will give through tomorrow until I go through the official channels to request that the board rules be enforced. In the meantime, I give full permission to Lori Z. to post anything business related that is definitive proof of the allegations. Let me reiterate the words business related.