Vendzilla

Anyone else see this? I'm just trying to remember when if ever anyone in politics has called out a president like this? This is like a bitch slap to Obamanation

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Amputate Your Head

If there weren't signs, she'd be bitching because there were no signs.

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Vendzilla

did you see how close to Phoenix these signs are? I'd be bitching too! I saw where the Obamanation is sending 500+ troops to the border, he promised 1200, and with the signs going up, he's saying there is a problem, just not his problem

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Sly

It's 1200 for the entire border. When and where did he promise 1200 for Arizona?

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Raf1

she seems like someone that would be pissed off if there wasn't a sign there too.

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Vendzilla

read it again, I never said Arizona for the troops, I said "BORDER"

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Sly

Yes, and you also said he is only sending 500 and promised 1200. What was the purpose of that?

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Tom_PM

I'm still waiting for Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Bush to fix it.

<-still waiting, but not on a bandwagon.

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SykkBoy

I think all of the Arizonian illegals are coming into Nevada faster....they seemed to have doubled in numbers outside Star Nursery and Home Depot the last couple days...I better hurry and get my $20 yard crew before they are shipped back to Arizona...

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Sly

The real culprit is politics in general, not any one President... like most of our problems now. Short-term thinking to keep people happy today so that any given politician can get reelected.

Man, people need to stop arguing and everyone just admit... yes, there is a problem. Let's fix it. It doesn't matter whose fault it is... the problem is still there. Let's fix it.

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JustDaveXxx

Some good looking signs.

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marketsmart

this is what i preach day in and day out...

congress loves it when people focus on blaming one person (the president)...

then they can rape and pillage unnoticed...

the problem is govt as a whole and until people figure that out there will be no changes..






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Vendzilla

Um, because that's how many Obamanation is sending
http://blog.azbiz.com/?p=497
I think that every president from the first bush on is to blame, but Obamanation is being called on it like no other and is ignoring it
that's why Arizona passed this law. I feel that's the only way anything is going to get done, the people have to force the current and future administrations to do what needs to be done

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Sly

"How many of the 1,200 National Guard troops promised to the border will make it to Arizona?s segment. Would you believe 524 (or 44 percent)? "

As I said. He promised 1200 for the border, he never promised 1200 for Arizona. He is sending 1200 to the border.

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Good for her!

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Obama will go down as one of, if not THE worst president in our times.

He will be remembered for:

- Oil leak
- Immigration / Border issues
- Horrible Economy
- Unemployment
- National Debt (more than all other presidents combined)
- A 2nd recession (coming soon)

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Amputate Your Head

He's banking on history repeating itself. If things begin to turn around right near the end of this term, it will skyrocket his momentum for running for re-election. If not, then yeah, he's gonna go down with some baggage.

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jimmy-3-way

Wait a minute, so a shitty local politician is running against those fat cats in Washington from the opposite party?

Wow, this is amazing. Like the second American revolution!

This chick is the same dumbass who sold the Arizona capitol building to a a private investor and is renting it back to make up for budget shortfalls.

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jimmy-3-way

Anyone who's grown up in Arizona or California has driven through a Border Patrol checkpoint 30-50 miles from the border for the last 20 years, this is nothing new it's just the only thing Republicans in Arizona can run on.

Which is ironic since their idol Reagan is the one who gave all the illegals amnesty and unleashed the flood anyway.

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Vendzilla

I see what you're saying, but does it really matter? 524 troops for how many miles? Obamanation doesn't take this seriously does he?

One fucking Iranian soldier with a dirty nuke walking across our border, that's what scares me

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think about that

Vendzilla

Why do people blame past administrations for the fuck ups for Obamanation?
He's been in office for 18 fucking months, when does he take responsability for the office?
He said he was going to do something in the first year of office, remember that?

At least GW sent troops to the border, more than Obamanation promised

Although I love Reagan, that's something I didn't agree with, and I remember there were more illegals than they thought. And he made it illegal to hire an illegal alien.

I think they should stop letting people wire money to Mexico

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HighEnergy

Not sure why they're waiting for 2 months.
The numbers,

"The federal government will deploy 524 National Guard troops to the Arizona-Mexico border by late August, according to representatives from President Barack Obama's administration.

The delegation met Monday morning with Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords and Attorney General Terry Goddard in Tucson. During those meetings, the federal representatives also pledged $600 million in emergency funding to help with border-security issues.

According to Giffords office, an additional 250 troops will be sent to Texas, another 224 troops to California, and 72 to New Mexico. There will also be 130 personnel sent to a national liaison office in an undetermined location."

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...#ixzz0sGlQbeww

crazytrini85

No question about it, if he makes miracles he will be the rock star everyone said he was and will breeze into a second term. I just don't think that's going to happen in time and the dems are going to lose a lot of seats here in a few months and NOTHING is going to get passed by Obama at that point. His time is almost up.

He has a few months to create miracles and try to pass every law he wants to pass. Otherwise he's screwed. I don't see how he is going to fix the economy or jobs in the next 2 years and I dont think our troops will be home either, as he said he would do. Gitmo won't be closed, the gulf will be a mess and he won't have much left to run on. I'll be surprised if the people fall for his smooth talking again. His walk does not match his talk and I think everyone is starting to see that.

I bet he is not only a 1 term president but he will go down as one of the worst. Be it his fault or not, the buck stops with him and ALL the blame will be dropped in his lap.

The sad thing is that whoever is next will just blame Obama, as Obama has blamed Bush and the cycle will continue.

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to me the main reason Obama has this on his shoulders is that he has promised immigration reform and has yet to deliver and doesn't seem like it is even on the table. If he came out and said, "Look, we are focusing on the economy and getting people back to work first, then we will work on immigration." I think people would be more open to him. Where he has troubles is that he hasn't delivered and given no signs of delivering and then when a state decides to act on their own he sues to stop them.

If you are going to tell someone they can't use their solution, you should have a solution they can use ready to go.

DG_Nick

Watch the video in HD, she is totally reading off of cue-cards; kinda lightens the impact for me.

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theking

He didn't. Arizona...Texas...California and I think New Mexico are going to get varying numbers of the deployment.

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Robbie

I don't think there should be ANY troops on our borders or walls or any of that stupid Soviet Union Iron Curtain kind of bullshit.

Mexicans have crossed that border for centuries without causing any trouble.

The problem with violence down there is 10000% caused by OUR country and it's "War On Drugs" that makes it a gold mine to smuggle drugs into the U.S. Just like alcohol prohibition had the unintended consequence of causing so much gang violence...when prohibition was lifted, the violence stopped.

Anyway, with that said...the Governor of Arizona does have a point. I saw her on the news the day after she met with Obama. She said that day that he promised to get back with her in 2 weeks with a solid plan. She said that she was looking forward to it and was hopeful.

Looks like he never got back with her, and instead had those signs put up. Typical Washingon "do nothing" move.

That's why she's pissed.

If I were all of you, I'd be pissed that since the beginning of this country poor Mexican immigrants crossed our borders and harvested our vegetables and fruit. And now because of our governments INSISTENCE on controlling what you and I can use to party on a weekend...violence has erupted.

And in the end what will happen? They will put TROOPS on OUR border! And build a wall.

Wasn't it just 20 years ago that President Reagan stood in front of the Berlin Wall and demanded it be taken down? I spent my childhood of the 1960's and 1970's in school being taught that it was evil and that people with walls were NOT free!

So now it's all cool? And we build a wall but we are the "good guys"?

I'm sure the Soviets felt that way too.

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Sly

So Mexico is a corrupt, inefficient hellhole all because of the War on Drugs?

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I love Mexico. Loved going down there to vacation. It's always been corrupt. But corruption didn't cause gangs to form with BILLIONS of dollars at stake.

THAT is the War On Drugs. It's making drug lords rich.

They WERE in Columbia. BUT, the good ol' USA threatened Columbia with sanctions if they didn't allow us to send TROOPS in there. So we did, and after a couple of bloody decades we got rid of the Columbian Cartels.

Which left a huge hole. The Mexicans are filling it. Now you have violence right on the Mexican border with the U.S.

What? Did you think that Mexicans just suddenly turned violent in the last couple of years for no reason? Or because their country has corrupt politicians? lol

My family (orange grove owners in Fla.) have hired immigrants to pick oranges for over 40 years. No violence. No problems. Efficient hard working people.

But when you make drugs illegal...and then you spend BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to make it harder and harder to get them across the border? Well, you're just making it ever more profitable to get in the drug business. And that is what those young teenage boys in Mexico are doing by the droves.

But you're right...it's that corrupt hell hole Mexico's fault.

But wait...haven't they ALWAYS been a corrupt hell hole?

Yes.

But the violence started after the Columbian Cartels were broken up.

Nah, you're probably right. No connection there. They are probably creating all this violence over who gets to pick the beans and tomatoes in California this year.

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theking

He did get back to her...I think it was a five man envoy that he sent to Arizona...and they met with the Governor within the last day or two. She was not pleased with the way the meeting went.

The Berlin wall was to keep people in...the "wall" along the border is to keep people out. Major difference.

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Tom_PM

Well it was just on the news this afternoon that he's sitting down for more immigration reform talks. It wont matter to critics obviously.

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Robbie

Isn't that the same bullshit the Soviets were telling the East Germans?

There is NO difference. Either men are free to walk the Earth or they aren't.

My point originally is this: Nobody had a problem with Mexicans for over two hundred years. Our countries "big brother" insistence on trying to rule everybodies personal lives went into overdrive when Nixon started the "War On Drugs" in the early 1970's

After 40 years, what do we have to show for it? Drug use is higher (no pun intended) than ever. We IMPRISON more of our own citizens than ANY country in the world (including that evil North Korea and their buddy China). More lives and families have been completely destroyed by authorities imprisoning people for smoking pot and snorting coke than have ever been affected by actual drug addiction.

And we keep spending billions and billions of OUR money to throw OURSELVES in jail!

Stop the War On Drugs (or as it should be called: The Govt. Controlling Our Lives) and the violence on the Mexican border stops.

Once the violence stops, all the shouting about building walls stops. Mexican immigrants go back to doing all the jobs the nobody here can or will do.

This whole thing is ridiculous to me.

I can't understand why nobody seems to remember that NONE of this has been a problem for centuries. Until now.

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Robbie

Yep, you and everybody else in the U.S.A. in the year 2010.

It's unreal to me.

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Robbie

I don't know about the "social cast"

But the Mexicans who harvest oranges every season in Fla. for my family make more money doing that than most of the people here on GFY who think they are webmasters. They are damn good and very efficient at harvesting.

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cykoe6

It is good to see someone take a stand against Obama's dangerous and illegal open borders policies.

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theking

I am not aware of any country on the earth that allows illegal entry into their country. Keeping people in and keeping people out are different...period.

The cost of the war on drugs along the border is insignifcant to the cost of services supplied to the illegal immigrants.

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Don Pueblo

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Semi-Retired-Dave

That will be the first and last time she interviews him.

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He talked about reform during his campaign, 2 years ago, still nothing, you think this is going to be different?

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cykoe6

What an astonishingly stupid statement. At least you are open about your belief that nation states have no right to control their borders. Unfortunately for you only about 10-15% of the US population (the radical internationalist left) would agree with you........ which is why all the lies and obfuscations are required by politicians to keep the borders open.

If all of the "open border" Marxists were as upfront about their desire to destroy national boundaries as you??.. then there would not even be a debate........ the border fence would have been built a long time ago. Unfortunately most of them keep their real agenda hidden to try and obtain their long term goals through dishonesty and propaganda about "racism". You honesty is refreshing even if your ideas are insane.

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theking

He...just as every President...has very little domestic powers. The Congress is in control of domestic power and the President has only the "bully pulpit/talk" to convince Congress to legislate immigration reform or any type of reform...and the Republicans do not want to see a Democrat President and Democratic congress succeed at anything.

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Robbie

Yeah...so astonishingly stupid.

And how "astonishingly STUPID" is it of you and everybody else to forget that there was NO problems on our borders for over two hundred years? But now the federal government is being BEGGED to put SOLDIERS on our borders.

You people are fucking communists and nazi's

I don't trust the government. And if it weren't for the drug business being made so profitable by our government we would have no problems.

But hey...the world economy is destroyed at the moment. We are fighting two insane wars. We are occupying over 80 countries around the world.

So why not spend BILLIONS more on "protecting" the border from freakin' Mexico? Maybe they will raise the taxes of the few of us still making a little money to pay for this bullshit too.

OR, they could stop trying to tell the American people that they can't smoke a joint or snort a line. Doesn't cost any money for that. The violence stops. No need to build walls or send in the fucking Army.

Just stop trying to control everything and everybody. Problem solved.

But no, that is way too simple. And I'm sure you find it "astonishing" as well.

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theking

You keep saying no problems on the borders for more than 200 years. Ever heard of the Mexican/American war...ever heard of the multiple raids by Mexican revolutionaries into the United States...ever heard of Patton leading a military force into Mexico...did you ever attend Highschool?

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TheDoc

That's 524 on top of the ones already here... or 1.4 more national guard per border mile, not all of which is crossable.

Terrorism isn't why we need to secure that border... if that's the case, then the entire Canadian border needs to be secured. It has 1000's of miles of open range, no-check point, and is easy to walk across all over the place. Hell, every Port in our Country is more open than the southern border is.

The border needs to be secured because of illegal immigration and the drug/gun/gang wars spilling over the border. Not some fake, fear based, stories told by men that would scream bloody murder if the Gov setup camp in their back yards.

It needs to be secured...better than it is, but it damn sure doesn't need to be over ran with military personal.

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Robbie

No suh, we's don't has no "highschools" where I's come from.

And you are saying that a WAR between nations has anything to do with immigrants crossing that border freely for two hundred years to pick crops?

I won't fling an insult at you. I'll leave that childishness to you. But I will say again...there has been NO problems along the Mexican border for over 200 years...and now I will clarify it for those of you who don't grasp the topic: NO problems with immigrants crossing the border, NOT when two nations go to war.

Jesus...

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cykoe6

I completely agree with you that the so called "War on Drugs" is a catastrophe and has destroyed Mexico and decimated personal freedoms in the US (paramilitary police forces, no-knock raids, random searches, unwarranted surveillance, etc.). It is the main reason I moved out of the US. Having said that..... the government has a legal and moral obligation to protect the border from foreign invaders. It is one of the few legitimate purposes of the federal government. A government that cannot control its own borders is not a legitimate government. A nation that cannot control its own borders is not a legitimate state.

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theking

To say that there has been "NO problems with immigrants crossing the border" is the problem. Do you not understand that the cost of the war on drugs along the border is insignificant to the cost of the services provided to the millions of illegal immigrants in our country?

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dig420

I wonder how long it will be til the fine white aryan citizens of Arizona run thru the streets at night shattering windows?