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Old 09-09-2010, 01:57 PM   #301
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What a clusterfuck. Out of all the people, entities, and businesses that have created or are involved with this current situation, Michael is the last one who deserves this abuse.

And yet he takes it, and tries to remain calm and professional. Personally, I could not deal with this pressure in a civilized manner.

I hate to come across as an ass-kisser, but it pains me to see one of the most honest (my perception, due to having dealt with Michael occasionaly for about ten years or so) and hard working men in this business treated this way.
I agree, at least give us a full detail on what really happen with no lie
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:57 PM   #302
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it appears that nobody is getting wires, but did anyone manage to get out money by withdrawal to their real credit card?

As Michael says that process is automatic, not reviewed by hand as wires..

Anyone with such luck?
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:58 PM   #303
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Old 09-09-2010, 01:59 PM   #304
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The money is gone, plain and simple. Deal with it. All this speculation and false hope is just going to hurt you in the long run.

In the faint chance you do get it back, consider it a miracle. Until then, stop hoping, you're just going to fuck yourself over even more than you already are.
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We have received a high number of wire disbursement requests and we must manually review each one at this time. Please bear with us while we work through this
backlog. We will notify you once your wire is sent.
Why do you manually need to review them?
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Michael you should try and get some real answers yourself at management level or directly from Chris, Epassorte can't just bring out a statement like that after a week and leave us in the dark. This brings even more questions than answers. If you don't want people to overload you with calls/emails then give us some real answers. We need a time frame for when Epassporte thinks this will be solved (days, weeks, months??) and an actual explanation about what the real cause of these problems are. Epassporte says "the funds are safe and secure", but also says "there are funds in motion", so what is it? Sounds to me millions are missing?!

Michael, if you can get some real answers for us I am sure everyone will calm down a bit. Right now it looks like things only get worse with no real news...
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Michael O: I really think you owe us an update about the status of outgoing wires! I see nobody on GFY posting that any wire has successfully gone out... all i see is people waiting
What he said
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:00 PM   #308
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*Applying for a payoneer account*
made a deal where you can transfer from epass wallet to payoneer?

count me in.
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Michael, before epass dies completely can you bring back Keyser Soze?
Then all our problems will be solved! Keyser knows how to deal with banks.
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Michael you should try and get some real answers yourself at management level or directly from Chris, Epassorte can't just bring out a statement like that after a week and leave us in the dark. This brings even more questions than answers. If you don't want people to overload you with calls/emails then give us some real answers. We need a time frame for when Epassporte thinks this will be solved (days, weeks, months??) and an actual explanation about what the real cause of these problems are. Epassporte says "the funds are safe and secure", but also says "there are funds in motion", so what is it? Sounds to me millions are missing?!

Michael, if you can get some real answers for us I am sure everyone will calm down a bit. Right now it looks like things only get worse with no real news...
This. Michael, if you really want to help everyone out you should demand answers from your company and tell them you're not going to stand by any longer watching lots of hardworking webmasters fumble through the dark desperate to get ahold of any information about their money.
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This. Michael, if you really want to help everyone out you should demand answers from your company and tell them you're not going to stand by any longer watching lots of hardworking webmasters fumble through the dark desperate to get ahold of any information about their money.
You asking him to be a martyr for you..lol get real.
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i have probably lost business due to only having paypal, direct wire transfer to my bank and western union as payment options, but i am glad i wasn't ever able to get an epassporte account after seeing what everyone is going through.

Sorry everyone! I sincerely hope you're able to recover your funds, as well as able to recover from whatever collateral damage this may have caused your business!
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good luck to those with 1000s stuck in their epassporte accounts...I wouldn't be holding my breath...gl
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Playing detective here but....

From the previous posts Michael O has made it appeared that English was not his first language. Numerous grammatical mistakes etc.

Now this statement comes from Michael O's account and is filled with horrible English but signed by Chris Mallick.

Looks like someone just attached their name (or had their name attached) to a pre-written statement.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:06 PM   #315
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I really can't believe that they don't have the reason why they are cut off of VISA's network. They must have that, otherwise a bad ass lawsuit could come without any doubt!

So, there are some information that they are obviously not willing to share with us, probably afraid of all clients running away from them once this is resolved. Well, I am myself afraid that a lot of clients will run away regardless....

Not cool... but as I said I expect this to be a long process.
Afraid the clients are running away???

I think a guy called Chris mallick is running away!!! with our money or maybe he already used for the shitty movie called "Middle men".

Afraid clients are running away - they are all gone and he know it. You might say something else her on the board but in reality no one is ever going to use epass again.
Even sponsor have changed this payout option or most of the sponsor I use.

I would luv my money back just do see it happening.

In russia you can have a man killed for less then 20 bucks.
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What a clusterfuck. Out of all the people, entities, and businesses that have created or are involved with this current situation, Michael is the last one who deserves this abuse.

And yet he takes it, and tries to remain calm and professional. Personally, I could not deal with this pressure in a civilized manner.

I hate to come across as an ass-kisser, but it pains me to see one of the most honest (my perception, due to having dealt with Michael occasionaly for about ten years or so) and hard working men in this business treated this way.
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Michael you should try and get some real answers yourself at management level or directly from Chris, Epassorte can't just bring out a statement like that after a week and leave us in the dark. This brings even more questions than answers. If you don't want people to overload you with calls/emails then give us some real answers. We need a time frame for when Epassporte thinks this will be solved (days, weeks, months??) and an actual explanation about what the real cause of these problems are. Epassporte says "the funds are safe and secure", but also says "there are funds in motion", so what is it? Sounds to me millions are missing?!

Michael, if you can get some real answers for us I am sure everyone will calm down a bit. Right now it looks like things only get worse with no real news...
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:07 PM   #318
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What planet do you lkive on?!
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:08 PM   #319
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No, i don't think Chris wrote that statement either. But i know what he did do, he stole my fucking money!
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ACH is an acronym for Automated Clearing House

It is a function of the National Automated Clearing House Association (NACHA) the US Federal Reserve Bank.

Direct deposit to your checking account is one example.

ACH Wikipedia
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OK, did anyone got their documents reviewed?

I am waiting for 2 days for review and nothing yet...
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anyone know where i can get an account? i have a design job that i'm doing and i need to take monies via epassporte. how long does it take to get an account there?
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Sorry but that *statement* is not only very poorly written but is one of the biggest pieces of condescending doublespeak with a load of crap on top that I have ever read.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:11 PM   #325
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OK, did anyone got their documents reviewed?

I am waiting for 2 days for review and nothing yet...
I sent in documents to be reviewed last friday. Everything was approved yesterday.
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You asking him to be a martyr for you..lol get real.
Not a martyr, an employee who will take pride in his job is more like it.
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good luck to those with 1000s stuck in their epassporte accounts...I wouldn't be holding my breath...gl


That me you are talking about and I consider them lost. But would like to meet of your enemies in a dark alley.

It funny many things comes to reality when thinking enough about it....
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Reading the statement i understand you are giving our detailes (name, address, etc) to SKNA, with our amounts, and will be SKNA who pays us in some way, not epassporte.

This reading has good and bad sides.

good: The bank has our money and is taking some steps to guarantee our money is not lost

bad: the bank doesn't trust on you to return the money and want to do it themselves, and doesn't want to continue working with you, SKNA doesn't trust epassporte.

With these readings, money in VV may be safer than money in eWallet.

If SKNA is reading this, i'm european and would like to get a resonable fee for a bank transfer, don't want you to try to profit with huge transfer fees por epassporte users
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Does "Funds in motion" = spin cycle?



Nice spin control...



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In russia you can have a man killed for less then 20 bucks.
According to his movie Middle Men he knows a few Russians as well....
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Playing detective here but....

From the previous posts Michael O has made it appeared that English was not his first language. Numerous grammatical mistakes etc.

Now this statement comes from Michael O's account and is filled with horrible English but signed by Chris Mallick.

Looks like someone just attached their name (or had their name attached) to a pre-written statement.
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Last time i visited a bank in the carribean there was a guy sitting on the steps with a pump action shotgun. Good luck arguing the toss in there.
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What a clusterfuck. Out of all the people, entities, and businesses that have created or are involved with this current situation, Michael is the last one who deserves this abuse.

And yet he takes it, and tries to remain calm and professional. Personally, I could not deal with this pressure in a civilized manner.

I hate to come across as an ass-kisser, but it pains me to see one of the most honest (my perception, due to having dealt with Michael occasionaly for about ten years or so) and hard working men in this business treated this way.
I hope you're talking about Michael being abused by his employer, because that's exactly what this is.

If Visa dug Epassporte's grave, CM just pushed Epassporte into it and covered it with this statement. People who are actually saying they would continue using Epassporte if they somehow weathered this storm are asking to be taken for a fool. Michael is not the bad guy - he's the pawn of his employer. You all realize Michael has said all this week that it would be resolved this week, and the only reason someone like him would SAY something like that is because his employer told him such. His employer is abusing his good rapport with this community to death.

Chris Mallick got a taste of Hollywood, and with this statement has brought Hollywood to all of you. Red flags surrounded by a bunch of empty words and some of you are still eating it up. Prior to this statement, I thought that perhaps people would still get their VV funds back eventually but now I wouldn't put money on it (no pun intended). Something is seriously wrong and they're not telling you all what it is.

That's even aside from the wire situation on the Wallet funds, which WOULD be serious except given some people's ACHs have worked, I kind of doubt those funds are frozen.
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Playing detective here but....

From the previous posts Michael O has made it appeared that English was not his first language. Numerous grammatical mistakes etc.

Now this statement comes from Michael O's account and is filled with horrible English but signed by Chris Mallick.

Looks like someone just attached their name (or had their name attached) to a pre-written statement.
u noticed that too
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Why do you manually need to review them?
Oh man.
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Why do you manually need to review them?
In all banks I've used they processed swift wires manually. You only make an order through the interface and then wait until they execute it manually. That's why wires normally pass through only at business days. Most banks clearly say that in wire order form.

So, nothing unusual in this. Plus, I suppose that in case of Epass they have a two-stage process. First they review wire orders from the clients and then make orders to the bank where bank employees also execute them manually.

With a big amount of wires being requested I do not find it surprising they are moving slow. Though I'm also concerned if they are sending them at all. From another hand - I see no reason for Michael to say they are sending them when they are not. Would be much simplier just to say the money are frozen if they really are.

My real concern is that epass will be killed by all this before I withdraw all my money. Big guys probably will get theirs if yet have not. And they do not write on forums.
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has anyone tried to contact SKNA directly about withdrawing funds without epassporte?
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Playing detective here but....

From the previous posts Michael O has made it appeared that English was not his first language. Numerous grammatical mistakes etc.

Now this statement comes from Michael O's account and is filled with horrible English but signed by Chris Mallick.

Looks like someone just attached their name (or had their name attached) to a pre-written statement.
Nothing to worry about Sir. That's just the new CEO of ePassporte speaking. Abullah Muhundah Rakishi - the 4th Prince of Nigeria. Your funds are safe. (He's royalty).
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anyone get wires yet?
From all the reading I have done, everyone is saying no one has received a wire. Some people have reported getting ACH and funds sent to their credit cards.

Since Mr. Mallick has stated his expenses are enormous and he has no money coming in either, I wouldn't count on getting a wire anytime soon.
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This is no news. Would be great to at least hear when the solution will come. I am sure that epass needs to know what to do to get the cards back up after a full week of talks.
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Nothing to worry about Sir. That's just the new CEO of ePassporte speaking. Abullah Muhundah Rakishi - the 4th Prince of Nigeria. Your funds are safe. (He's royalty).
They are always doctors so it should be Dr. Abullah Muhundah Rakishi
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has anyone tried to contact SKNA directly about withdrawing funds without epassporte?
I did. I was abruptly told it was not their problem, that even if Visa said we could get money from them, we can't. They told me to contact epassporte.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:31 PM   #347
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has anyone tried to contact SKNA directly about withdrawing funds without epassporte?
Yes there are reports of people actually contacting St. Kitt's but have been brushed off or hung up on.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:36 PM   #348
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:37 PM   #349
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:38 PM   #350
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