will today spell the end of the socialist experiment?

[12clicks]

and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.

[stocktrader23]

I'm sure Republicans will win overall if that's what you are asking. Then Democrats will win in 2012.

[Phoenix]

yes because the energy we produce here in canada...is now fully owned by a usa company...and today they upped the prices again to sell us back our own energy that our taxes paid to develop

its so awesome

[theking]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.

Well if the Republicans become the majority of the House and Senate the President still has veto power...but it is very doubtful that they will become the majority in the Senate.

BTW...it is the Republicans that are the greatest growers of government...spending and increasing the National Debt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.

good one bro!

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by theking

BTW...it is the Republicans that are the greatest growers of government...spending and increasing the National Debt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

[epitome]

edit: never mind.

[dyna mo]

obama's already made bipartisan comments such as

"the republicans can ride along, they just have to ride in the back of the bus."


yay.

[Black All Through]

I'm sure it will be a grand slam for the Republicans. However 2 years to repair the mess left by George Bush are nothing.
A lot of promises that should have already been fulfilled will have the Democrats lose these elections. They went way beyond their possibilities in telling the American people what they wanted to hear "change"
I voted Democrat in 08 this time around I went independent.

[theking]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

I am aware that Congress controls the purse strings...I am also aware that the President has veto power...and the Senate cannot usually override the veto. In addition you did not study the charts...thus it is you that is wrong...as usual...sport.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

Nothing you wrote here disproves his claim.

[sextoyking]

Today will probably be a blood bath for my party.

We earned some of that and the rest of course because of jobs, jobs, jobs.

Remember Pres. George HW Bush - no new taxes - Clinton won after he broke that promise.

We promised below 8% unemployment - we failed... good thing is we will keep the Senate, so we will either work together or total gridlock...

Now the repubs have to try and govern a bit - let's see how that works out.....

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

incorrect, as usual, pathfinder.

obama has already increased the debt in 2 years greater than bush had in 8.
additionally, the debt is grown by congress, not the president.

but thanks for playing.

Which is it? Obama did it or congress did it?

Besides, Vice-President Dick Cheney said "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." He knows more than all of us put together.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by theking

I am aware that Congress controls the purse strings...I am also aware that the President has veto power...and the Senate cannot usually override the veto. In addition you did not study the charts...thus it is you that is wrong...as usual...sport.

pathfinder, the charts show that the greatest reduction of national debt was when control of congress was turned over to republicans.
the chart also leaves off obama's debt which is the largest increase by any president ever.

now run along and come back as "the queen" and explain how you found yourself dead at your computer, mid post on GFY.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Which is it? Obama did it or congress did it?

Besides, Vice-President Dick Cheney said "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." He knows more than all of us put together.

ahhh, brujah, always needing it dumbed down.
the democratic congress and senate passed what obama wanted.

cleared up now?

during the reagan years, he slashed taxes under the misconception that it was a way to curb democratic spending. it wasn't. they just kept on spending what they didn't have.
shockingly, when newt gingrich took control of the house and forced down spending, it started the best economic cycle of our life times.

not sure why the left acts so dumb. I don't see it as a viable strategy.
at the end of the daty, you end up, uh..........looking dumb.

[theking]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

pathfinder, the charts show that the greatest reduction of national debt was when control of congress was turned over to republicans.
the chart also leaves off obama's debt which is the largest increase by any president ever.

now run along and come back as "the queen" and explain how you found yourself dead at your computer, mid post on GFY.

President Reagan: 32.5% of GDP to 53.1%

President Bush Senior: Took it to 66.1% of GDP

President Clinton: Reduced it to 56.4% of GDP

President Bush Jr: Took it to 83.4% of GDP

President Obama: Came into office with it being 83.4% of GDP

It is yet to be known what it percentage of the GDP will be when he leaves office.

It does not make alot of difference who is in the majority in the House and Senate as the President can veto any spending bill that he chooses to and usually the Senate cannot get enough votes to override a veto. Thus ultimately the buck stops with the President...not the Congress.

As you can see under Republican administrations the debt went from 32.5% of GDP to 83.4% of GDP...and no President Obama has not reached this almost 52% in increase to GDP.

[CaptainHowdy]

That's not socialism...

[cwd]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.

yeah, lets get some real talent in there that can do the job. I can't wait for Paul, Angle, O'Donnell, Miller and the rest!

[Wizzo]

Hopefully the GOP will gain enough power to gridlock the government, because that when it seems to work best when neither party has enough power to spend, spend, spend... and yes they are both equally guilty!

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by cwd

yeah, lets get some real talent in there that can do the job. I can't wait for Paul, Angle, O'Donnell, Miller and the rest!

Halloween was the other day. You don't have to scare us like that.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

yes because the energy we produce here in canada...is now fully owned by a usa company...and today they upped the prices again to sell us back our own energy that our taxes paid to develop

its so awesome

haha what?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Hopefully the GOP will gain enough power to gridlock the government, because that when it seems to work best when neither party has enough power to spend, spend, spend... and yes they are both equally guilty!

I've never thought that having the House, Senate, and Presidency held by the same party was a good thing.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

obama's already made bipartisan comments such as

"the republicans can ride along, they just have to ride in the back of the bus."


yay.

funny, i thought republicans were saying that in a weird example of racism still embedded in your country

i believe the analogy was 'car'

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

haha what?

oh yeah...politicians in ontario are crooks..they have been selling shit off here for about 8 years now

[seeandsee]

50% chance for somebody to win

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by theking

President Reagan: 32.5% of GDP to 53.1%

President Bush Senior: Took it to 66.1% of GDP

President Clinton: Reduced it to 56.4% of GDP

President Bush Jr: Took it to 83.4% of GDP

President Obama: Came into office with it being 83.4% of GDP

It is yet to be known what it percentage of the GDP will be when he leaves office.

It does not make alot of difference who is in the majority in the House and Senate as the President can veto any spending bill that he chooses to and usually the Senate cannot get enough votes to override a veto. Thus ultimately the buck stops with the President...not the Congress.

As you can see under Republican administrations the debt went from 32.5% of GDP to 83.4% of GDP...and no President Obama has not reached this almost 52% in increase to GDP.

dear troll, presidents do not veto budgets except in extreme cases because congress and the senate are supposedly the will of the people.

post your idiot half facts all day.

Clinton didn't reduce shit, the republican congress did.
at an increase of $3trillion, obama has in two years, surpassed every other president who's had 4 or 8 years.

you're idiocy truly knows no bounds.

[theking]

Originally Posted by Sly

I've never thought that having the House, Senate, and Presidency held by the same party was a good thing.

Historically speaking...the majority of Americans seem to agree.

[porn-mobile]

If the Brits can so suddenly control their spending, so can we. I just don't want to have to hear about Tea Partiers any longer.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Nothing you wrote here disproves his claim.

wow, I'm always amazed by guys who can type with your limited intelligence.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by theking

Historically speaking...the majority of Americans seem to agree.

"Historically speaking" it may work out that way after elections, but I don't believe that most Americans agree at all. "Most" people want "their party" to have the power of all three.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

oh yeah...politicians in ontario are crooks..they have been selling shit off here for about 8 years now

same thing here oddly enough

a couple, ah, criminalish situations in the sell off of bc rail etc

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

obama's already made bipartisan comments such as

"the republicans can ride along, they just have to ride in the back of the bus."


yay.

and lets not forget the bringing us all together comment "We?re going to punish our enemies and we?re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us"


enemies? he won't call Al Quada "enemies" but people who want to stop illegal immigration he will.

there's a priority list we can all be proud of.

[theking]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

dear troll, presidents do not veto budgets except in extreme cases because congress and the senate are supposedly the will of the people.

post your idiot half facts all day.

Clinton didn't reduce shit, the republican congress did.
at an increase of $3trillion, obama has in two years, surpassed every other president who's had 4 or 8 years.

you're idiocy truly knows no bounds.

Everything that I posted is fact and undisputed fact...period. But have it your way...sport. I refuse to have intercourse with ass wipes.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by theking

I refuse to have intercourse with ass wipes.

so then your wife is dead?

[raven1083]

this thread delivers

[theking]

Originally Posted by Sly

"Historically speaking" it may work out that way after elections, but I don't believe that most Americans agree at all. "Most" people want "their party" to have the power of all three.

It would not have worked out that way if the majority of Americans wanted one party to have power...now would it have?

[sextoyking]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

and lets not forget the bringing us all together comment "We?re going to punish our enemies and we?re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us"


enemies? he won't call Al Quada "enemies" but people who want to stop illegal immigration he will.

there's a priority list we can all be proud of.

Our president did correct his words to be "opponents"

You know he is a lover of our country just as most of us are.. His views are center left mostly and yours are center right or right...

As far as clinton - he gets credit as does the repub congress of his time... 22 million new jobs - a great economy, etc.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by theking

It would not have worked out that way if the majority of Americans wanted one party to have power...now would it have?

Uh... think about that one.

How many people are running around right now saying "we need another power in party!" very few. What are people saying? "We need someone else in power!"

People vote for "someone else", not for "another party." "Someone else" just happens to be "another party."

[raven1083]

this thread makes sense

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by sextoyking

Our president did correct his words to be "opponents"

you don't SAY "enemies" unless you MEAN enemies

Originally Posted by sextoyking

You know he is a lover of our country just as most of us are.. His views are center left mostly and yours are center right or right...

his views are NOT center left. he's extreme left.
no centrist talks about and attempts to practice wealth redistribution

Originally Posted by sextoyking

As far as clinton - he gets credit as does the repub congress of his time... 22 million new jobs - a great economy, etc.

if you remember, clinton came out with a leftist agenda, got slapped down in the mid terms, and with newt holding the scruff of his neck, forced him onto the path to prosperity

[sextoyking]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

you don't SAY "enemies" unless you MEAN enemies

his views are NOT center left. he's extreme left.
no centrist talks about and attempts to practice wealth redistribution





if you remember, clinton came out with a leftist agenda, got slapped down in the mid terms, and with newt holding the scruff of his neck, forced him onto the path to prosperity

As I said he corrected his words - was it political? Sure it was but was it any worse then being called Hitler, commie, tratior, etc No way Jose.

Ron, Wealth redistribution has been going on for decades - was FDR exteme left? was Nixon, Reagan, etc??

Clinton was never a leftist in the whitehouse - shit he was a moderate anyways... He wanted universal care just as every president did since Truman...

President Obama is a great person, thinker, etc - his main problem is 2 things.

1. He came into office in the worst economy since 1929

2. He is good at giving speaches and all but he isn't Clinton when it comes to talking with the "common person"

Whether he wins or loses in 2012 - ppl will look back in decades to come and wonder what this big fight was about on health care. They will laugh and say of course everyone should have health care....

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

funny, i thought republicans were saying that in a weird example of racism still embedded in your country

i believe the analogy was 'car'

It WAS car - FOX changed it to BUS because they lie at all times, and the morons on this board that watch that crap are brainwashed douche bags.

[dyna mo]

i feel obama's 2 main problems are:

1. he's an idealist.
2. he sticks to his pre-determined agenda, regardless.
3. he's caught up in the politics of them v us

[Tom_PM]

Is it time for Orange Jesus?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.

God you're a fucking retard. There is/was no "socialist experiment". Wasting money? YOU'RE a waste of oxygen. Fuck off now. FACT most of our debt has been rung up by Reagan and both Bushes.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by sextoyking

As I said he corrected his words - was it political? Sure it was but was it any worse then being called Hitler, commie, tratior, etc No way Jose.

Ron, Wealth redistribution has been going on for decades - was FDR exteme left? was Nixon, Reagan, etc??

Clinton was never a leftist in the whitehouse - shit he was a moderate anyways... He wanted universal care just as every president did since Truman...

President Obama is a great person, thinker, etc - his main problem is 2 things.

1. He came into office in the worst economy since 1929

2. He is good at giving speaches and all but he isn't Clinton when it comes to talking with the "common person"

Whether he wins or loses in 2012 - ppl will look back in decades to come and wonder what this big fight was about on health care. They will laugh and say of course everyone should have health care....

well that's the left's view and you're welcome to it, revisionist history and all. however, its a minority view as we'll see by days end.

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by GatorB

God you're a fucking retard. There is/was no "socialist experiment". Wasting money? YOU'RE a waste of oxygen. Fuck off now. FACT most of our debt has been rung up by Reagan and both Bushes.

awwww, does this bitterness mean you've been fired from yet another job or that your 1yr of unemployment checks is just about up?

[sextoyking]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

well that's the left's view and you're welcome to it, revisionist history and all. however, its a minority view as we'll see by days end.

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and the economy is what will place the democrats in the minority tonight in the house..

I know the ass kicking is coming - not much more too say Ron...

I do hope in the next 2 years our elected leaders can work together...

[Paul Markham]

It will be very interesting to see if the Republicans can clear up the mess left by the Governments for the last 30 years.

The US like so many Western countries have lived beyond their means for decades. Blaming one President or one administration is stupid. The system of importing more than you export is a disaster waiting to happen. The banking crisis showed up the flaws.

[Tom_PM]

It'll be interesting to see if Republicans clean up a mess? Damn right it would be interesting to see that. But lets not hold our breath too long.

They've already proclaimed proudly that their number one prioity is to block Obama from being elected to a second term.

So strap in and strap on for 2 years of utterly nothing happening but more vilification and kissing the hairy thankless ass of big money.

Happy to be proven wrong.. ready set go. See ya in 2 yrs.