TCLGirls

Huh? You firs say that Obama, the president, has increased the debt.

Then you say only Congress can increase debts, not the President.

Strange logic there.

Vendzilla

You're calling him a retard? Obama isn't on the ballot, no president is on the ballot, the senate and the house are on the ballot, or are you too fucking stupid to understand that?

Fact, right now there is a federal budget deficit of 1.3 trillion dollars
Do the math troll

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think about that

Paul Markham

Where does putting the Nations economy come on the list?

Probably under filling their pockets and those of their backers. Did I hear right that the Republican going after the Governors job in California spent $15 million on her campaign? Or was it only $12 million?

Now who is stupid enough to think she spent that to improve the State before she got her cut?

Any electoral system that allows that kind of expenditure on a campaign is at risk of electing corrupt leaders on the level of some African nations.

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dyna mo

umm, that's $150+ million on the republican cali gov campaign

The Demon

I'll be happy if the REpublicans take the House or both, but I will definitely criticize them if they don't do anything with their power. Too many moronic biased republicans/democrats. You'll hardly meet someone who tries to be objective. I think more will be done when we have different parties pulling strings than one party doing it.

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12clicks

Dear idiot, asked and answered page one.

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Paul Markham

WTF?????

I thought I heard $15 million on the news and that made me wake up and think something is very very wrong. $150 million is positively crazy.

Who thinks she will end up out of pocket if she wins?

If she loses it will be a good lesson learned. Anywhere else in the world the voters would reject that kind of spending right away. It stinks of corruption. IMO.

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Vendzilla

She can afford it, she's a billionaire

Unions spent a shit load on her opponent

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think about that

Tom_PM

I think she's going to lose by 15 points. 150million of eBay money... poof.

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The Demon

You're either biased, or completely missed Obama's campaign.

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dyna mo

it was/is mostly her own money. if she sincerely wanted to help cali, she would of spent that more wisely, imo.

dyna mo

what was the final tally for that? like $700 million or something??

The Demon

Yea, more I think.. The spending was ridiculous. Nobody needs to bitch about anyone else spending for a campaign unless they want to look like a moron.

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Vendzilla

the fact that she got as far as she did as a republican in a state thats 13 to 1 in democrats, well she did pretty good

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think about that

theking

She is not concerned about spending $150 million...she is worth more than a billion. It appears that she is not going to win.

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dyna mo

i'm surprised that's the ratio, pretty conservative here in so cal eh.

tony286

I look forward to the new excuse once the right wins it all and nothing changes.see no one here has real money, a few pretenders but no real money. Because real money is having a really good yr this yr. Goldman sachs is giving the biggest bonuses in their history. Corporation are holding trillions in reserves of cash. It's not right or left it's the rich found a cheaper worker bee. No amount of political bs will change that.

dyna mo

what i really do not understand about the cali gov race: jerry brown was the best the dems could come up with? really? no, really? i mean REALLY??

The Demon

We can't possibly make as many excuses as the left has the past 2 years. If the Republicans don't do anything, they will be criticized. Those who don't are biased.

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tony286

Actually he was a very good governor

dyna mo

not saying you are wrong but that's pretty debatable eh. + a long long time ago, under much different circumstances.

isn't that why all his campaign commercials include the "at this stage in my life.." line?

dyna mo

i guess my original point is: so the best candidate the dems could come up with is a career politician that many believe raised taxes exorbitantly and is in bed with the unions?

same with repubs and fiorina btw, the best they could come up with is one of the worst CEOs in the history of corporate america?

Paul Markham

My point is not just her spending money, it;s the entire system where the spending is so out of control. What ever side it is people spend that kind of money to line their own pockets first.

I would say most politicians today are in it for themselves, the recent expenses scandal in the UK showed many up on both sides of the house. But when someone has to recoup the kind of money being spent in the US it leads to even more corruption. Democrats, Republicans or Tea Party. It will be interesting watching how many Tea Party leaning politicians gain power and cut spending in their own areas.

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stocktrader23

I love these disingenuous comments, reminds me of Fox News. Yes, unions spent money for her opponent but it doesn't come close to $150,000,000. She tried to buy the election and it looks like she has failed.

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It wasn't out of his pocket you dolt, he raised that money in epic fashion.

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Tom_PM

Dont forget that union money is actually from the members of the union. Not some rich fuck trying to influence society to benefit himself.

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The Demon

So I made your argument look like shit and your only response was that it wasn't his money? You DO realize that you moronic liberals are bitching about money for a campaign, not about where it came from, right? I love the backtracking from the imbeciles.

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Sly

That's like saying business money is from consumers that actually contribute to the business so that they can influence politics more.

Yeh, union members pay dues, they have very little control over where that money goes. If they knew where some of their union leaders were spending that money they might not be so happy paying their dues.

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Damn you must be one of those angry voters that the tea bag party keeps talking about. But regardless of your "answer", your logic still fails.

_Richard_

in other news, Palin is one step closer to running for president in 2012

Tom_PM

The point being that using ones personal wealth is not equal to using contributions from potentially millions of people who know part of their dues is for campaigning. This is not really something that should be rising to the stage of gridlock We all know these obvious things.

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stocktrader23

Shame you have to explain that to the morons.

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The Demon

Shame you represent the typical liberal and are too stupid to use common sense.

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12clicks

my logic always fails amongst the rabble.

enjoy your short foray into our business. with your limited intelligence. you're not likely to be here long.

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If you want less spending, smaller government, and more freedom... with at least a chance of restoring the federal government's power back to what was intended, you're going to need to vote Libertarian (or Libertarian in Republican guise)...

IMO

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Vendzilla

Yes the unions wanted to keep the their retirement of 95% of what they made working at their retirement age of 55, so they spent all they could, without the union workers permission.
Givin that California is 13 to 1 democrat, I think your math is as fucked up as you are, if she even gets close, it says something


I wouldn't call him very good, adequate at best

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think about that

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Success in this business is linked to intelligence?

News to me.

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dyna mo

party pooper.

SpongeBub

It is beyond my comprehension how an average middle-class American can think that voting Republican is going to help them. The Repblicans only help the rich and that is all they ever will help. They will screw the middle-class at the expense of their rich whoremasters, like they always have, and yet my fellow Americans cannot seem to see that. What is wrong with them - I'd sooner cut my dick off than vote Republican.

And I'm no liberal by a long shot - it's just that the Republicans give lip service to smaller government and fiscal responsibility and yet, they have never implemented a bit of that and they never will. They will only continue to fuck over America, sending jobs overseas and rewarding the companies that do it. All the time screaming that lower taxes will solve it all and other myths. Wake up, people, these are bad human beings. That orange fuck Boner will be the new speaker - he'll make Pelosi look like an angel.

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I sure hope so.

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Vendzilla

You've never been in a union have you?
To get the work, you have to join, they spend the money without your consent. The union members are starting to get pissed

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think about that

12clicks

and here is the country's problem in a nutshell.
this moron isn't even bright enough to realize that the rich provide the life he currently leads. thats right son, PROVIDE. without the rich paying for that which YOU can't pay for but still expect, you would be living in the street.
we truly have an uneducated voting populous as is evidenced in this post.
its just shocking to come to the realization of just how dumb most of america is to believe this evil rich bullshit.

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kbauerctu

Just a question for all the people that complain about health care driving up taxes. What about war...

No one ever brings up the financial cost of these wars we keep fighting. Wouldn't you rather take that money and spend it on improving the lives of Americans everywhere. Rather than going into the military industrial complex's coffers? None of us really even understand fully why we have troops in these countries in the first place, since non of us are privy to classified information.

Is it gold? Oil? Tungsten? Geo political? How do these wars benefit us? the people of the united states?

12Clicks your obviously a fiscal conservative, nothing wrong with that. But, I'm pretty sure the amount of tax payers $$ we spend on war, is far higher than health care.

12clicks

when in the entire history of mankind has there not been war?
when he's the unprepared, weaker country not lost in war?
sadly, the military is a necessary evil when you have something someone else would like.

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or when someone else has something you want

nico-t

why dont you see the big picture 12clicks? That politics is nothing but i silly game where sheep pick a side and blindly follow them, like you are doing with everything that is republican.

Now from a point of view not brainwashed by the media in the US, how the rest of the world looks at this situation.

Bush: Constant threat of another war, if he would have been longer in office, or if that crazy old guy would have won the elections the US would have made it to Iran, spending all the taxpayers' money and their soldiers' lives in yet another middle eastern desert making the US a definitive 3rd world country.

Obama: Not throwing away money and lives in another war, and even a health care plan which is proven to work for numerous european countries.

I feel that the whole world is way more relaxed now because the weird war mongering retards dont run things anymore. I don't know what you are complaining about. And by the way when you look at your personal earnings and spendings, is it really much of a difference who is running the country?

By the way, a big ass recession that had a huge impact on the world economy is not fixed in 2 years, not with the Federal Reserve ruling & printing money all the time.

_Richard_

'that's preposterous, idiot'