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Old 11-14-2012, 03:23 PM   #1
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How to start my own adult webcam site

So instead of running an affiliate program, I just wanna do it myself. Hire some models, open a website and go. Have customers buy coins/credits and pay the girls x% when the customer spends them on a girl.

Has any of you guys had any experience doing this? Is it as profitable as I imagine it to be?

Secondly, where can I find a script for this?
I founded some scripts, but dont know If they are good:
http://www.modenacam.com
http://www.adultcamscript.com

Also, what are the things I need to keep in mind when trying this?
Where to hire models?

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Old 11-14-2012, 03:36 PM   #2
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I hope you have the finances to back this up
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:52 PM   #3
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I hope you have the finances to back this up
^^^word

I don't want to sound too negative, just realistic. Launching a cam site makes opening a restaurant look like a conservative investment

the huge challenge you have to overcome is the no traffic-no camgirls vicious circle. Here's why. Getting a steady stream of paying traffic to a new site is a huge job. Attracting camgirls to work a new site is another challenge. The pros who excel at what we do are tired of new sites that open and summarily shut down every other month. No successful camgirl is going to waste time on an unknown site with mediocre traffic when we could be banking elswhere. We've seen too much fail to get excited about yet another new camsite launch.

You could hire a bunch of camgirls who don't make $$$$ elsewhere or are new to the job, but the turnover amongst these camgirls is incredibly high. As such, within an incredibly short period of time you'll find yourself with no camgirls online, even if the paying traffic does start to arrive. There's several of these types of sites floating around out there in the ether. There's either no camgirls online or there's one poor chica dealing with a room populated solely by "open cam bb" losers with no credit card on file.

It's not an impossible goal, but don't underestimate how difficult the challenge is. Ask yourself, what will make yourself different from the last ten sites that opened and failed or are still open yet staggering along with few to no camgirls online?

And probably triple whatever overall budget you have set for the first several months.

I'm not trying to sound negative or contrary, and I think it would be awesome if your planned site did succeed. Camgirls benefit from having more viable site options. All I'm saying is that what you hope to achieve is going to be really fucking difficult to realize. Make sure you go into this with realistic expectations regarding the challenges you'll encounter.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:33 AM   #4
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Pretty interesting topic. It's definitely a classic chick and egg problem.

@Jesse What in your opinion makes camgirls stick around? Is it strictly money or are there other factors involved?

If I wanted to start a cam site, I would get and keep girls by first offering them the a fixed rate per-performance plus 100% of whatever they make. Once things got going, I'd just take a reasonable commission.

I'd also work with the performers to improve their performances and produce high-quality content that could be sold on our marketplace. The performers would get the majority of the revenues here as well, encouraging them to produce more content. This could be pretty disruptive if it got traction.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:50 AM   #5
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Wow, that ModenaCam seems to have shot up in price
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:13 AM   #6
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@senortriangulo, that model has been tried a few times in the past couple of years with sites that I know of, and they're all gone now. There are a few sites still around that offer a fixed rate to their camgirls on top of tips/private show earnings, but as the sites don't offer decent paying traffic, they're not very lucrative and don't attract serious camgirls who know how to earn.

I'm really not trying to be negative, just honest. If you have a high paying-traffic site then offering a higher percentage would be a huge draw, but you still need a solid base of paying customers. As a friend of mine said once, we camgirls are mercenaries. We follow the money. 100% of nothing is still nothing.

Like I wrote above, I really wish there were more decent alternatives to the handful of camsites that dominate camming right now, it's just a huge challenge for any new site to bridge that gap. I think working with new performers to improve their game is a great idea, just don't expect that to drastically lower your camgirl turnover rate. Alot of new chicas get into camming assuming that they'll bank from hour one, and camming often doesn't work that way. Those girls often get discouraged and quit. Making steady, great $$$$ takes alot of effort, and many people aren't prepared to invest that effort. That's not a criticism of these girls, but rather an acknowledgement that many people get into camming with unrealistic expectations of the work involved.

Attracting paying traffic is the biggest challenge though. Anyone who can figure that out, who offers a decent payout percentage and who covers chargebacks wouldn't have to worry about attracting camgirls who know how to bank. The pros would come, without a doubt.

Frequent payouts (two weeks or less, with a low payment threshold) would be another factor for a new camsite, just because too many chicas have been burned by new sites that hold the $$$ for weeks and then crash and burn, leaving everyone unpaid. We generally advise new camgirls to avoid new sites that don't offer frequent payouts for that reason. It's happened too many times and no one wants to work for free.

Having a content portion to a site is great, but again, you need paying traffic to support that model.

Another thing that would benefit your site (assuming you had decent paying traffic) is a private-chat only mode. That would encourage chicas who are good at what they do but who occasionally get burnt out on free chat, or who work more than one paid-chat only site at once. Not a deal-breaker, but definitely a feature that would increase your chances of attracting and maintaining a steady base of seasoned pefformers.

The above factors would make a new site stand out and give you the best chance to attract girls who know how to earn, but ultimately it really is all about the money. If you don't have good, steady paying traffic everything else is moot.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:08 PM   #7
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Thanks for the insights. The turnover problem is a real hurdle to overcome, but one that is certainly solveable with enough cash.

The fact that you are messing around with Skype and direct-billing customers gives a lot of weight to your point that there aren't many good alternatives (for camgirls) out there. From the user/customer site of things, there are definitely tons of improvements that could be made.

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Old 11-15-2012, 02:37 PM   #8
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:44 PM   #9
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@senortriangulo, you're welcome

I just want to make clear that I'm not 'messing around on skype', though. I made a choice a few years ago to only do independent camming and I'm doing really well with it. Leaving the camsites was a conscious choice that fits my lifestyle.

I wouldn't be the target camgirl for your proposed site because I make wicked $$$ doing my own thing. I'm really good at attracting and keeping my own customers so I have no need for a cam site at this point. The vast majority of my peers and camgirl friends work regular camsites though, and I listen to them when they talk about their experiences and pay attention to what's happening in the non-independent part of the camming industry. I also moderate part of a forum where every other month a new camsite emerges to hype itself before crashing and burning a few months later, so although I don't work 'big box' cam sites I do stay pretty involved in what's happening.

anyways, sincere good luck. Camgirls can only benefit from more viable options, as would you personally if you manage to pull it off
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:09 PM   #10
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It sounds like you need to build a network pushing traffic to other cam sites and then as you develop paying traffic start your own. Though to be blunt for me the profit would have to be triple what I would earn as an affiliate
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:08 AM   #11
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It sounds like you need to build a network pushing traffic to other cam sites and then as you develop paying traffic start your own. Though to be blunt for me the profit would have to be triple what I would earn as an affiliate
best answer so far.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:56 AM   #12
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:04 AM   #13
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I like this modenacam script looks good don't know if it's good, but only to setup the site is really expensive you need as well a flash media server and this is expensive as well. I think if you have a network with 1000k hq visitors daily I would go for it, my oppinion.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:14 PM   #14
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do not try to start your own cambizz ?
or do not try modenacam ?
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:55 AM   #16
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I hope you know what you are doing, because " Hire some models, open a website and go"
It's not that simple...
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:32 AM   #17
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I might have some options that could be interesting to you.
Send me an email if you,d like to discuss?
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:43 AM   #18
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you may wanna considering havin High Traffic already established before you even launch due to your overhead, lets say you built a network of tubes, blogs, adult pinterest clones etc
hell id say throw in some clipstores so you can check the demand for your chosen models
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