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bean-aid 10-28-2012 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278500)
I think you'll find it's Rapidgator with problems at the moment.

Rapidshare are doing just fine, hosting mountains of copyright infringing content and getting away with monetizing it.

You are right.

It blows me away Dig420 has 1000's upon 1000's of pirated links to filelockers on his forum yet has exactly 42 vids in the members area of cuckolds.com and the other sites he includes. Total joke. I don't remember Sara Swirls getting any compensation for her vids being displayed 1000's of times on his forum. But wait... what did he say?

"You're never going to see that. I've been in this biz since 1996. I'm adapting instead of dying. AK is an attention whore looking to stay on the front page as long as possible and doing a great job of it. Vthays fine, but guess what? Tubes aren't going away. File sharing isn't going away. Ever. Not to mention, one big tube takes more views than every file share in the world put together. You guys sit here yanking each others cixks, you have no fuxking idea what's up in this industry anymore. What the fuxk ever. Im sitting in Mandalay bay on my cell with a hot asian vitch passed out next to me, when I wake up I'll keep doing what has to be done. Wake the fuck up. If you're not rich already, bitching like some nickel n dime tool over small potatoes like file shares isn't ginna help you."

johnnyloadproductions 10-28-2012 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278500)
I think you'll find it's Rapidgator with problems at the moment.

Rapidshare are doing just fine, hosting mountains of copyright infringing content and getting away with monetizing it.

Rapidshare is one of the oldest (the one that really got the file locker industry to where it is today) and when it comes time it will feel the wrath of SFL.

johnnyloadproductions 10-28-2012 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19278506)

"You're never going to see that. I've been in this biz since 1996. I'm adapting instead of dying. AK is an attention whore looking to stay on the front page as long as possible and doing a great job of it. Vthays fine, but guess what? Tubes aren't going away. File sharing isn't going away. Ever. Not to mention, one big tube takes more views than every file share in the world put together. You guys sit here yanking each others cixks, you have no fuxking idea what's up in this industry anymore. What the fuxk ever. Im sitting in Mandalay bay on my cell with a hot asian vitch passed out next to me, when I wake up I'll keep doing what has to be done. Wake the fuck up. If you're not rich already, bitching like some nickel n dime tool over small potatoes like file shares isn't ginna help you."

So adapting in his words is using the file locker industry to make some affiliate sales.
The other thing I don't like about this guy is the whole "pimp-lifestyle" aspect to it. Waking up next to some "asian bitch" huh? Can't even spell bitch right? vitch? What grade did you drop out of? I would seriously consider investing your file locker earnings into a speech instructor for elocution sessions or studying english a bit better.

If Adult King hadn't organized this, it almost certainly wouldn't have happened on the scale he's doing it with any other members or organization (anywhere). The man actually has a business brain that understands COMPLETELY how this entire operation works and knows what he can do now and what he needs to hold off on.

I may sound like an ass kisser but this is just the truth. There are services that remove your links but that doesn't solve the problem overall. For thousands striking at the branches of evil, there is but one striking at the root (the payment processors of these criminal enterprises in this case).

Anyone who is calling the SFL campaign silly for not attacking tubes is an utter imbecile.
I know how these guys think because for a brief period of time I almost considered becoming an upload monkey myself. I was so mad that my Johnny Load packages sold for next to nothing.
One guy bought a license off of me for $100 and told me I was lucky he even decided to buy them. "Most people just steal their content nowadays" he said in broken english. He even referred to himself as a vulture cleaning up the mess.

Other people make the argument not to even worry about it as the people that download from file lockers wouldn't buy from your site anyway. Not true at all. Many people have been trained to look everywhere for free and your only making it worse by letting it continue. So now, something is being done.

bean-aid 10-28-2012 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19278516)
So now, something is being done.

Something is being done for sure. I've given what I can and will continue to do so. There is absolutely no way that niche content providers can survive if stealing all their shit and putting it on filelockers is the model.

This fucking Dig420 is a fuckwad... he is facilitating all of the interracial and cuckold content to be easily downloaded via his forum.

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36768
http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34281

On and on...

He has 42 vids in his members area. Obviously member sales is not the focus. All he is doing is providing a platform to get free videos and is making his money off of affiliate filelocker sales. But we don't know qwat da shfuck dis going on.

AdultKing 10-28-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19278528)
Something is being done for sure. I've given what I can and will continue to do so. There is absolutely no way that niche content providers can survive if stealing all their shit and putting it on filelockers is the model.

This fucking Dig420 is a fuckwad... he is facilitating all of the interracial and cuckold content to be easily downloaded via his forum.

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36768
http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34281

Money is also made via image hosts, paying per thousand views of images of infringing content. It's a piracy free for all, which is going to come to an end.

Paul Markham 10-28-2012 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner (Post 19278528)
Something is being done for sure. I've given what I can and will continue to do so. There is absolutely no way that niche content providers can survive if stealing all their shit and putting it on filelockers is the model.

This fucking Dig420 is a fuckwad... he is facilitating all of the interracial and cuckold content to be easily downloaded via his forum.

http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=36768
http://forums.cuckolds.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34281

On and on...

He has 42 vids in his members area. Obviously member sales is not the focus. All he is doing is providing a platform to get free videos and is making his money off of affiliate filelocker sales. But we don't know qwat da shfuck dis going on.

I tried to find the forum rules. Seems they don't have any.

L-Pink 10-28-2012 07:27 AM

Bump for AK !!!

Nautilus 10-28-2012 10:02 AM

Seeding chaos and destruction into the piracy realm - this week's terminations log.

Fileprohost.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Mafiastorage.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
247upload.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Gbmeister.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Gbmeister.com (filehost) terminated by Payza
Gbmeister.com (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Unrestrict.li (enabler) terminated by Paypal
Uploo.net (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Freeuploads.fr (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Rapidimg.org (imagehost) terminated by Paypal
Albafile.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Uplly.com (filehost) terminated by HiPay (again)
Uploadcore.com (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Clouds.to (filehost) terminated by Moneybookers
Megacache.net (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Files2upload.net (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Cramit.in (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Fileking.co (filehost) terminated by Regnow
Bitshare.com (filehost) terminated by Swreg.org
Freakshare.com (filehost) terminated by Swreg.org
Multidown.co.il (enabler) terminated by Paypal

Nautilus 10-28-2012 10:05 AM

More dead hosts
Some of them were already reported as dead, we just keep organizing our records.

http://animegoon.com
http://bigandfree.com
http://buckshare.com
http://bzlink.us
http://cloudnxt.com
http://exzip.com
http://file4sharing
http://filefat.com
http://filehostr.net
http://filesharehost.com
http://filetechnology.com
http://fileupped.com
http://gptfile.com
http://ihostia.com
http://megashare.com
http://ngsfile.com
http://ok2upload.com
http://ovfile.com
http://quickupload.net
http://shareupload.com
http://shareupload.net
http://ugotfile.com
http://ultrafiles.com
http://uploadace.com
http://upthe.net
http://usershare.net
http://vidreel.com
http://xtshare.com

MrDeiz 10-28-2012 10:50 AM

I <3 this thread

adultmobile 10-28-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278534)
Money is also made via image hosts, paying per thousand views of images of infringing content. It's a piracy free for all, which is going to come to an end.

Yes image hosts business is big enough. Is a small screen capture image as infringing as a dvd rip or .iso of a software, which is 100% same as original?
I see that for music, a very low quality audio of a copyrighted song (for example a re-re-broadcast radio->webcam->internet which sounds really bad), it could be safe, because "quality it is so bad, that it does not give the same feeling of the original", some judge said in a few countries. Same argument it could be said of video thumbnails, which are resized and just few frames, so "only a preview" or "not giving same feeling of the original".
There was perfect10 to sue google for displaying preview thumbnails, there also google said hey but that's so smaller are you joking, it is only a preview.
Or couse uploading the full size photos of a photo site would be different but a quite small % of their business, main one is screencaps of covers or video contents.

Other way to argue with an image host, even if vidcaps can not be considered piracy on its own being "not give same feeling of original", it could be these facilitate the file locker with the full content, but, the image host may say they don't know if screencap is used for legal or illegal previews, in fact this is not easy to determine really.

SKUP 10-28-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19278455)
We're waiting to see what eventuates with Avangate.

We've sent various letters to Avangate and communicated with them via phone and email for months.

Until they drop the file sharing industry completely we consider them to be a rogue payment processor and we've been lobbying third parties to drop their various relationships with Avangate.

As of now it's a wait and see situation.

They will drop it. No question about it. Makes me wonder why I am in Bucharest at the moment :Oh crap :winkwink:

Paul Markham 10-28-2012 02:18 PM

More with problems paying the bills. :thumbsup:thumbsup

Nautilus 10-28-2012 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19279262)
Is a small screen capture image as infringing as a dvd rip or .iso of a software, which is 100% same as original?

Most if not all of the image piracy sites also host full sized photos that are 100% the same as original. For producers and paysites which offer mostly photo content (such as Met-Art or Femjoy) image hosts are even bigger problem than file hosts.

AdultKing 10-28-2012 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19279267)
They will drop it. No question about it. Makes me wonder why I am in Bucharest at the moment :Oh crap :winkwink:

What are you saying Siep, that you're responsible for Avangate dropping file hosts ?

SKUP 10-29-2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19279546)
What are you saying Siep, that you're responsible for Avangate dropping file hosts ?

That would be megalomania. Only Avangate can be held responsible for their actions.

AdultKing 10-29-2012 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19279888)
That would be megalomania. Only Avangate can be held responsible for their actions.

I don't understand why you feel the need to add cryptic comments to this thread.

Please enlighten us, what are you doing in Bucharest ? Since you imply it has something to to with Avangate.

SKUP 10-29-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19279989)
I don't understand why you feel the need to add cryptic comments to this thread.

Please enlighten us, what are you doing in Bucharest ? Since you imply it has something to to with Avangate.

I do hope you don't mind that I am not going to tell you what I am doing in Bucharest. I am not even telling my wife :) . But it was sort of an inside joke. Avangate is based in Amsterdam, the city in wich I live. So when big decisions are goint to be taken, I should be in Amsterdam and not in Bucharest :upsidedow

Triple-A 10-29-2012 10:05 AM

fascinating...

*bump*

Klen 10-29-2012 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19280220)
I do hope you don't mind that I am not going to tell you what I am doing in Bucharest. I am not even telling my wife :) . But it was sort of an inside joke. Avangate is based in Amsterdam, the city in wich I live. So when big decisions are goint to be taken, I should be in Amsterdam and not in Bucharest :upsidedow

You got tired of Amsterdam whores and want to try something new ? :1orglaugh

SKUP 10-29-2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19280534)
You got tired of Amsterdam whores and want to try something new ? :1orglaugh

Never met a person that got tired LOL :upsidedow

BlackAndBlue 10-29-2012 01:46 PM

Bumping for the additional site take downs. ;)

Nautilus 10-30-2012 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 19256080)
moneybookers is accepting payments from [email protected] for fileband.com

Not anymore :pimp

Paul Markham 10-30-2012 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19281860)
Not anymore :pimp

Another Indian villager will go hungry. :thumbsup

RegUser 10-30-2012 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19281900)
Another Indian villager will go hungry. :thumbsup

you dumb ass, most of these uploaders are from middle east and Turkey

Captain Kawaii 10-30-2012 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 19282021)
you dumb ass, most of these uploaders are from middle east and Turkey

Another expert.

AdultKing 10-30-2012 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 19282021)
you dumb ass, most of these uploaders are from middle east and Turkey

Incorrect, but thanks for playing.

I wonder if anyone can guess where most of the uploaders are ?

just a punk 10-30-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19282118)
I wonder if anyone can guess where most of the uploaders are ?

http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/gene...12/07/USA1.png

:)

SplatterMaster 10-30-2012 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19282118)
Incorrect, but thanks for playing.

I wonder if anyone can guess where most of the uploaders are ?

Ukraine and Russia

baggg 10-30-2012 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19282118)
Incorrect, but thanks for playing.

I wonder if anyone can guess where most of the uploaders are ?

pakistan,bangladesh and that area,if you check "webmaster" forums you ll see

AdultKing 10-30-2012 06:41 AM

It's the USA. by a huge margin.

just a punk 10-30-2012 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19282190)
It's the USA. by a huge margin.

Where I can take my prize? :)

AdultKing 10-30-2012 10:28 AM

Lumfile.com has been experiencing difficulties lately, we'll have more to say about that once a few issues are dealt with.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...filecrying.jpg

Captain Kawaii 10-30-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19282190)
It's the USA. by a huge margin.

Based on our sales I was going to say:

USA
UK
EU
Canada
Australia

"Sharing Industry"? I'd like to share a red hot poker with his dimwitted ass.

johnnyloadproductions 10-30-2012 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19282190)
It's the USA. by a huge margin.

Which is why some of the file lockers still attempt to get PayPal even after having it terminated several times. Many paying consumers in the US and PayPal is one of the most trusted among payment gateways out there (many will only use that).

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19282646)
Lumfile.com has been experiencing difficulties lately, we'll have more to say about that once a few issues are dealt with.

http://stopfilelockers.com/wp-conten...filecrying.jpg

Let's see how long that lasts, servers cost money to run.
Few things work online for any given amount of time without a sustainable
business model.

"Useless efforts"? The fact you are still mentioning him (AK) means he's
riding your mind because he's put a dent (bigtime) in this market.

dgraves 10-30-2012 01:20 PM

So what's their actual belief as far as "sharing" goes?

Do they believe only stuff that others create should be free like music, videos, software, etc. or all information in electronic format including all their private information?

Alex911 10-31-2012 03:48 AM

Is extabit.com not respecting DMCA notifications anymore? I've sent a proper dmca notification about a month ago for this file http://extabit.com/file/2csa4jc26cdx4 and it's still there...

BNMedia 10-31-2012 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 19259890)
AdultKing please take care of this one

http://luckyshare.net/

they are not removing

Any joy with this yet?
Lucky share are not responding to any of my DMCA emails!

aciuf 10-31-2012 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex911 (Post 19284267)
Is extabit.com not respecting DMCA notifications anymore? I've sent a proper dmca notification about a month ago for this file http://extabit.com/file/2csa4jc26cdx4 and it's still there...



As far as we are concerned, they are deleting links, just push them a little and keep on sending the dmca s

aciuf 10-31-2012 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNMedia (Post 19284363)
Any joy with this yet?
Lucky share are not responding to any of my DMCA emails!


they are responding, resend

SplatterMaster 10-31-2012 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19284383)
As far as we are concerned, they are deleting links, just push them a little and keep on sending the dmca s

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19284385)
they are responding, resend

Agreed on both. They aren?t as fast as I?d like to see, but do finally get around to it. If your content has not been deleted in 24hrs, resend. We usually forward the original request with a new one.

MrDeiz 10-31-2012 05:48 AM

great to see one man army in action!

ANAL PASTE 10-31-2012 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNMedia (Post 19284363)
Any joy with this yet?
Lucky share are not responding to any of my DMCA emails!

Who is hosting them or any other file sharing sites? Can't hosts enforce DMCA rules on them?

aciuf 10-31-2012 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ANAL PASTE (Post 19284535)
Who is hosting them or any other file sharing sites? Can't hosts enforce DMCA rules on them?

If we're talking about a legit hosting company, they can even terminate a site's services because of DMCA non compliance. But in Luckyshare's case things are more than complicated: 1. because they are passing through a CDN 2. because their hosting company is a really fishy one: ecatel

Triple-A 10-31-2012 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19284550)
If we're talking about a legit hosting company, they can even terminate a site's services because of DMCA non compliance. But in Luckyshare's case things are more than complicated: 1. because they are passing through a CDN 2. because their hosting company is a really fishy one: ecatel

cc [email protected], [email protected]

avangate got back to me and sent them a mail and then I got a response saying my original mails were caught in their spam folders etc.

Files are gone.

AdultKing 10-31-2012 11:41 AM

Always send copies of infringement notices and DMCA notices to [email protected]

I cannot stress how important it is to do this.

AdultKing 10-31-2012 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aciuf (Post 19284550)
If we're talking about a legit hosting company, they can even terminate a site's services because of DMCA non compliance. But in Luckyshare's case things are more than complicated: 1. because they are passing through a CDN 2. because their hosting company is a really fishy one: ecatel

What has been stated here is incorrect in both law and effect. It is not helpful to post incorrect information.

No hosting company outside of the United States jurisdictional boundary is obligated to comply with or disconnect sites on the basis of non-compliance with US law. The only circumstances in which an overarching responsibility occurs in a non US jurisdiction is in the observation of treaty obligations and these matters are the responsibility of foreign governments to enforce.

The facts are simply that a company not within a US jurisdiction and not covered in some way by US jurisdiction, as in the case of a US owned entity operating abroad, is not required to observe the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. The fact that some do observe it is simply convenient for the purposes of anti-piracy efforts however it is not guaranteed.

Each country has it's own copyright legislation, it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction whether or not this legislation can be effectively enforced in the online realm. Ecatel are only required to follow the laws of countries in which they have an effective residence or place of business.

It is very important to be very precise about these matters and spreading incorrect information is unhelpful as it leads people to adopt a view which is not consistent with the facts.

I have made this point clearly in early media interviews that I have done and also in this thread.

On the matter of a site using a CDN, this is not a factor in determining liability with regard to copyright infringement. In law the liability resides with the publisher and any party republishing content. If a CDN consistently republishes content then, unless it is afforded carrier status in a particular jurisdiction - such as the carrier status protections afforded in Australian law - then the CDN is just as liable for republishing the content.

Tjeezers 10-31-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19280220)
I do hope you don't mind that I am not going to tell you what I am doing in Bucharest. I am not even telling my wife :) . But it was sort of an inside joke. Avangate is based in Amsterdam, the city in wich I live. So when big decisions are goint to be taken, I should be in Amsterdam and not in Bucharest :upsidedow

The only Dutch people i know in this city, bucharest, are exploiting cheap housing and nice girls for cam studios. No need to tell your wife, just tell her you`re here to help the poor people getting food and stuff.

Nautilus 10-31-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19285053)
cc [email protected], [email protected]

avangate got back to me and sent them a mail and then I got a response saying my original mails were caught in their spam folders etc.

Files are gone.

There.

Please always DMCA their billing company, or if that is a rogue billing company (which Avangate probably is), send DMCAs to VISA and MC. And also always cc them to copycontrol, to be used as evidence to demand termination of the infringing site, or termination of a rogue billing company which is processing payments for such sites.

Do not send DMCAs to hosts, unless you're happy spending most of your time scouting forums and blogs for links and playing cat and mouse game with the upload monkeys. Do not settle on merely killing some links. Help to kill file lockers which are the reason why links to your stolen content appear at piracy/warez sites.

Paul Markham 11-01-2012 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19285551)
There.

Please always DMCA their billing company, or if that is a rogue billing company (which Avangate probably is), send DMCAs to VISA and MC. And also always cc them to copycontrol, to be used as evidence to demand termination of the infringing site, or termination of a rogue billing company which is processing payments for such sites.

Do not send DMCAs to hosts, unless you're happy spending most of your time scouting forums and blogs for links and playing cat and mouse game with the upload monkeys. Do not settle on merely killing some links. Help to kill file lockers which are the reason why links to your stolen content appear at piracy/warez sites.

Good advice. :thumbsup


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