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Paul Markham 09-17-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19195731)
I doubt Netload will care, in any case a card company investigation is the very least of Netload's problems.

In two minds, report and get Netload hit or let some guy steal all the data and then downloaders find out to their cost.

JesseQuinn 09-17-2012 11:14 PM

I gotta say, this thread is a huge surprise

I'm new to gfy and I clicked on this thread tonight expecting to see endless pages of discussion about how much filelockers suck along with aimless fantasies about them not existing. I did NOT expect to read this thread and see that y'all are actually doing something about filelocker piracy (my presumption was not a reflection on gfy members, but rather based upon observation of people in general, who tend to prefer complaining over action)

huge props, this is a wicked campaign :)

AdultKing 09-18-2012 07:34 AM

Not sure if anyone has posted this before but the comments are interesting.

(You might need Google translate)

http://www.gulli.com/news/19570-acco...igt-2012-09-01

Axeman 09-18-2012 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19196449)
Not sure if anyone has posted this before but the comments are interesting.

(You might need Google translate)

http://www.gulli.com/news/19570-acco...igt-2012-09-01

Thanks for sharing this AK. Very interesting to read.

adultmobile 09-18-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19196449)
Not sure if anyone has posted this before but the comments are interesting.

(You might need Google translate)

http://www.gulli.com/news/19570-acco...igt-2012-09-01

Update (29/08/2012)
The support of Netload responds to our request, "the temporary account lockout came due to a communication error with Paypal, so that no payment could be accepted, the problem has been eliminated by the very good cooperation with Paypal after a short time.". We wait still a response from PayPal.

Update (01/09/2012)
PayPal has apparently locked Netload again. This leaves the file hoster announced "good cooperation" in a somewhat different light. Even now gave users on forums WJunction known, PayPal has blocked the accounts of uploaders because of suspected copyright infringement. We are still waiting to no avail for a reaction of PayPal.

So "PayPal has blocked the accounts of uploaders because of suspected copyright infringement" ? This would be quite a move, StopFileUploaders too? :)

India economy seems affected:
http://www.wjunction.com/102-file-ho...d-here-287.htm

Gozarian 09-18-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SKUP (Post 19188747)
"Thanks for bringing the sites rapidgator.net to our attention.

We have been able to establish the processor for rapidgator.net and will contact them immediately to discontinue accepting our cards on this site"

Just a quote from an email (from a credit card company) we received yesterday. :upsidedow

good job siep :thumbsup

xXXtesy10 09-18-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gozarian (Post 19197375)
good job siep :thumbsup

For what? Lol. It is always business as usual. Wait, that is your boss, nevermind :1orglaugh

DWB 09-18-2012 03:19 PM

kabumparoony

AdultKing 09-18-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19197123)
So "PayPal has blocked the accounts of uploaders because of suspected copyright infringement" ? This would be quite a move, StopFileUploaders too? :)

People who receive payments for infringing content are targets.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19181533)
We're exploring ways with some peer to peer processors of limiting accounts of uploaders who receive payments from terminated merchants. We believe this will provide disincentive to repeat infringers.

While not going into the exact methods we use, we're working hard to identify all participants in the commercial distribution of infringing content.

Paul Markham 09-18-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19196449)
Not sure if anyone has posted this before but the comments are interesting.

(You might need Google translate)

http://www.gulli.com/news/19570-acco...igt-2012-09-01

Great read

Gozarian 09-19-2012 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 19197389)
For what? Lol. It is always business as usual. Wait, that is your boss, nevermind :1orglaugh

My boss not fucking hardly limp one

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2012 03:54 AM

Serious stuffs

RegUser 09-19-2012 08:12 AM

Despite relentless assault, these file sharing sotes are still going on and obviously getting sales

notjoe 09-19-2012 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19197501)
People who receive payments for infringing content are targets.



While not going into the exact methods we use, we're working hard to identify all participants in the commercial distribution of infringing content.


And even those who don't are targets.

MakingItPay 09-19-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by notjoe (Post 19198919)
And even those who don't are targets.

It is a big job for AK to shut down paypal for sites that are infringing. I know, because I contacted and dmca's paypal every week for months over a filelocker/pirate marriage. No answer. Nothing. Ignored. So if you are saying he is able to shut down paypal for legit sites, I have a difficult time buying that.

AdultKing 09-19-2012 04:16 PM

Just to clear up any misconceptions.

We don't go after any site or individual unless the evidence of infringement or illegal activity is overwhelming.

Paul Markham 09-20-2012 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegUser (Post 19198889)
Despite relentless assault, these file sharing sotes are still going on and obviously getting sales

It will take Government to resolve the situation totally.

AdultKing 09-20-2012 02:57 AM

More sites terminated today.

imgmade.com
welload.com
galaxy-file.com
musickapoz.com
mukupload.com
fileaa.com
fileplayground.com
flazhshare.com

freecartoonporn 09-20-2012 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19200717)
More sites terminated today.

imgmade.com
welload.com
galaxy-file.com
musickapoz.com
mukupload.com
fileaa.com
fileplayground.com
flazhshare.com

keep it up., good work.,
i voted for you.

nikki99 09-20-2012 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19200717)
More sites terminated today.

imgmade.com
welload.com
galaxy-file.com
musickapoz.com
mukupload.com
fileaa.com
fileplayground.com
flazhshare.com

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

adultmobile 09-20-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19199967)
Just to clear up any misconceptions.

We don't go after any site or individual unless the evidence of infringement or illegal activity is overwhelming.

To clear up those misconceptions, I suggest you make a list of whitelisted, approved file locker sites. Dropbox , Google Drive, and?

Pseudonymous 09-20-2012 10:28 AM

RapidGator claims they block files with md5 hash which they have completely lied about. I have submitted takedowns every 24 hours (after everytime theyre taken down and put back up) for files that share the exact same md5 hash string. I dont believe they've banned the user either.

dgraves 09-20-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19201506)
RapidGator claims they block files with md5 hash which they have completely lied about. I have submitted takedowns every 24 hours (after everytime theyre taken down and put back up) for files that share the exact same md5 hash string. I dont believe they've banned the user either.

I got the same email today. I sent out several DMCA's to RapidGator and their host NetVillage last week and they pulled the links but a few days later the exact same links were back up. They sent me an email saying if I put "Md5 hash" in the subject line they will block those files from future uploads. I sent them all the same links so we'll see how effective it is.

The monkeys are already on a thread asking for this weeks GHS update that hasn't been released yet. What a fuck'n joke.

dgraves 09-20-2012 12:32 PM

Dear Sir,


Files from your DMCA takedown notice will be deleted in 24 hours.

if you want us to block your content and prevent it from uploading to
our servers in the future by blocking it by Md5 hash, please always
put md5 hash in email subject.

It'll minimise risk that your content is uploaded again and will also
speed up deletion process!



Please let us know if you wish to receive a deletion-confirmation of
the reported files.

If you have other, non DMCA questions, please send your request to
[email protected]

Kind Regards,

Rapidgator.net support

BlackAndBlue 09-20-2012 01:14 PM

Bumping to congratulate AK on the eight new take downs. Carry on great warrior.

Robbie 09-20-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19201299)
To clear up those misconceptions, I suggest you make a list of whitelisted, approved file locker sites. Dropbox , Google Drive, and?

Who cares about "approved" file lockers?
The point of this is to help stop piracy.

Why would anyone "approve" a file locker? Who gives a fuck about file lockers other than the ones who are making a fortune off of pirated content?

adultmobile 09-20-2012 03:57 PM

Well if there's no one file locker that is considered as implementing proper DMCA and so could be taken as example by others, then you are assuming every file locker is illegal and so no any file locker function it can be implemented in any way ever, that is legal.
It needs some legal examples so you can write: "dear filelocker X, you should implement the takedown notice same as whitelisted filelocker Y and Z, or you are illegal".

Pseudonymous 09-20-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19201768)
I got the same email today. I sent out several DMCA's to RapidGator and their host NetVillage last week and they pulled the links but a few days later the exact same links were back up. They sent me an email saying if I put "Md5 hash" in the subject line they will block those files from future uploads. I sent them all the same links so we'll see how effective it is.

The monkeys are already on a thread asking for this weeks GHS update that hasn't been released yet. What a fuck'n joke.

Its not effective. They don't even attempt to do so, atleast not with the pirates that are bringing in premium memberships like clockwork.

They have been good with removing the links within 24 hours though, ill give them that

Though they are definitely not doing anything about repeat infringers

AdultKing 09-20-2012 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19201299)
To clear up those misconceptions, I suggest you make a list of whitelisted, approved file locker sites. Dropbox , Google Drive, and?

We're not going to publish a whitelist. What we will say is that if you have no affiliate program related to downloads, ban links to files on warez sites and piracy forums, have a properly enforced repeat offender policy, co-operate with anti-piracy organisations such as Copy Control and legitimately try to mitigate piracy on your service then you'll be pretty safe.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19201506)
RapidGator claims they block files with md5 hash which they have completely lied about. I have submitted takedowns every 24 hours (after everytime theyre taken down and put back up) for files that share the exact same md5 hash string. I dont believe they've banned the user either.

We believe that RapidGator do not actually delete content, we have fairly compelling evidence to indicate that up-loaders can simply re-instate content without fear of losing their account and files.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 19201768)
I got the same email today. I sent out several DMCA's to RapidGator and their host NetVillage last week and they pulled the links but a few days later the exact same links were back up. They sent me an email saying if I put "Md5 hash" in the subject line they will block those files from future uploads. I sent them all the same links so we'll see how effective it is.

The monkeys are already on a thread asking for this weeks GHS update that hasn't been released yet. What a fuck'n joke.

Rapidgator are making a serious error of judgement if they think that this behaviour is without consequences. Watch this space.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19201884)
Who cares about "approved" file lockers?
The point of this is to help stop piracy.

Why would anyone "approve" a file locker? Who gives a fuck about file lockers other than the ones who are making a fortune off of pirated content?

I agree. We have our hands full dealing with infringing file lockers. We're not going into the business of approving sites. If you're legitimately legal then you have nothing to fear from the Stop File Lockers project.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19202162)
Well if there's no one file locker that is considered as implementing proper DMCA and so could be taken as example by others, then you are assuming every file locker is illegal and so no any file locker function it can be implemented in any way ever, that is legal. It needs some legal examples so you can write: "dear filelocker X, you should implement the takedown notice same as whitelisted filelocker Y and Z, or you are illegal".

Sites which monetize infringing content without a serious effort in place to mitigate this are likely to be targeted. It's really not that difficult for a business to know whether or not it's operating within the law.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19202256)
Its not effective. They don't even attempt to do so, atleast not with the pirates that are bringing in premium memberships like clockwork.

No, it's not effective when a business has set itself up as an online fence for stolen digital content. Sites like Rapidgator are not serious cloud storage services, they're specifically designed to profit from infringing content. They're criminal operations and need to be addressed as such.

EriktheRabbit 09-20-2012 05:40 PM

Here - jbm
http://www.hahahahahahahahahahahahah...ion-XXX/page11

Takes you here
http://bitshare.com/files/4ukldgaq/MegaPack635.rar.html

premium signup takes you here
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr

have luck

EpicPanda 09-20-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19202286)
We believe that RapidGator do not actually delete content, we have fairly compelling evidence to indicate that up-loaders can simply re-instate content without fear of losing their account and files.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6015/spittake.gif

Oh, that's just great.

This would explain why I had to report the same file five times in five consecutive days uploaded by the same user, each time supplying the md5 hash tag in the email and using md5 hash in the title like they instruct in their canned response.

Triple-A 09-21-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhadPanda (Post 19202332)

Oh, that's just great.

This would explain why I had to report the same file five times in five consecutive days uploaded by the same user, each time supplying the md5 hash tag in the email and using md5 hash in the title like they instruct in their canned response.

Oron did that... look what happened to them! haw haw haw!



Incidentally AK, without letting the upload monkeys see what I want to post, what's the best way to inform you privately of a filelocker that is ignoring DMCAs completely and basically just taking the piss?
We'll then see if you can exert some pressure on their revenue sources.

AdultKing 09-21-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A (Post 19203387)
Incidentally AK, without letting the upload monkeys see what I want to post, what's the best way to inform you privately of a filelocker that is ignoring DMCAs completely and basically just taking the piss?
We'll then see if you can exert some pressure on their revenue sources.

I received the report you sent through the SFL site.

The site in question is using one of a number of third party processors we're currently talking to about the problem.

mrgica 09-21-2012 04:55 PM

Have you killed them yet?

adultmobile 09-21-2012 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19202286)
We're not going to publish a whitelist. What we will say is that if you have no affiliate program related to downloads, ban links to files on warez sites and piracy forums, have a properly enforced repeat offender policy, co-operate with anti-piracy organisations such as Copy Control and legitimately try to mitigate piracy on your service then you'll be pretty safe.

Sites which monetize infringing content without a serious effort in place to mitigate this are likely to be targeted. It's really not that difficult for a business to know whether or not it's operating within the law.

Well this is not a whitelist but it is a start.
You see what megaupload's Kim said "I do same as google", and fileshoppe or so here write he's innocent too. People in this forum may be webmasters so quite understand immediately what it is the truth about a site, but you are in the press and you should describe something like an easy way to describe who's a legal cloud storage, and maybe do a few examples why google drive is different from megaupload. 99% of humans do not know. We're the 1% of geeks who know but this is not the point.

Paul Markham 09-21-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrgica (Post 19204158)
Have you killed them yet?

Rome wasn't built in a day.

https://gfy.com/image.php?u=82468&dateline=1348282372

I approve this image. :thumbsup

Triple-A 09-22-2012 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19204121)
I received the report you sent through the SFL site.

The site in question is using one of a number of third party processors we're currently talking to about the problem.

Thanks... good luck with that.

*bump*

mychemicalromance 09-22-2012 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19202286)
We're not going to publish a whitelist. What we will say is that if you have no affiliate program related to downloads, ban links to files on warez sites and piracy forums, have a properly enforced repeat offender policy, co-operate with anti-piracy organisations such as Copy Control and legitimately try to mitigate piracy on your service then you'll be pretty safe.



We believe that RapidGator do not actually delete content, we have fairly compelling evidence to indicate that up-loaders can simply re-instate content without fear of losing their account and files.



Rapidgator are making a serious error of judgement if they think that this behaviour is without consequences. Watch this space.




I agree. We have our hands full dealing with infringing file lockers. We're not going into the business of approving sites. If you're legitimately legal then you have nothing to fear from the Stop File Lockers project.



Sites which monetize infringing content without a serious effort in place to mitigate this are likely to be targeted. It's really not that difficult for a business to know whether or not it's operating within the law.



No, it's not effective when a business has set itself up as an online fence for stolen digital content. Sites like Rapidgator are not serious cloud storage services, they're specifically designed to profit from infringing content. They're criminal operations and need to be addressed as such.

geez who put you as the judge. your so god damn self righteous.

Robbie 09-22-2012 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mychemicalromance (Post 19204541)
geez who put you as the judge. your so god damn self righteous.

Fuck you.

What's you're fucking problem? Do YOU produce content? Do YOU put your ass on the line with the legalities, the time, the effort?

Or are you just another fucking thief who steals everything. Fuck you.

EriktheRabbit 09-22-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mychemicalromance (Post 19204541)
geez who put you as the judge. your so god damn self righteous.

Eat a Dick!

EriktheRabbit 09-22-2012 01:44 PM

Any news on the hoped for demise of bitshare?

Paul Markham 09-23-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mychemicalromance (Post 19204541)
geez who put you as the judge. your so god damn self righteous.

I did, so go suck on a dick.

AdultKing 09-23-2012 03:46 AM

In the past few days we've successfully had 17 file lockers terminated with HiPay.

HiPay have now made the decision not to work with File Lockers.

Paul Markham 09-23-2012 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19206085)
In the past few days we've successfully had 17 file lockers terminated with HiPay.

HiPay have now made the decision not to work with File Lockers.

I was having a good day till now. You just made it a great day. :thumbsup

AdultKing 09-23-2012 04:02 AM

As of now the following payment systems will not accept payments for file lockers:

Moneybookers/Skrill
HiPay
AlertPay/Payza
2CO
Paxum
CCBill

For file lockers to work with Paypal they must become an approved merchant.

Paypal have terminated relationships with payments systems:

PaymentWall
CarrotPay

Jamie Gardner 09-23-2012 11:39 AM

I noticed today that 3xupdate has disappeared. One of the things that was unique about this website is that it said it was uploading the movies.

Pseudonymous 09-23-2012 11:53 AM

I noticed some pirates talking after I immediately took down their links:

Quote:

That said, those links sure die fast. Have you considered using some kind of link hider or DLC-container? DLC-containers are one way containers. A download program can download but you can't extract the links manually. Only the program sees the actual download links. So without a special program you can't find out the links and can't report them to the site => Links stay alive.

I use cryptload and am very happy with it. But J-Downloader is equally good. Both are freeware and truth be told, they don't just make the links safer and last longer, they make downloading a lot easier. The program downloads automatically. A pop-up appears on your screen when you have to input the next captcha and that's it. You don't have to manually click each single link, don't have to check the clock to see if the 15 minute timer is up...You just load the dlc and enter the captcha when prompted.

So if you go through the work of uploading (much appreciated and thank you), why not use something to keep the links alive longer?
I have yet to look into those pieces of software, if pirates started using something like this, would it hurt? or is there a way to still obtain the link and report?

Pseudonymous 09-23-2012 11:58 AM

If they start encrypting links, how would you obtain the link to report?

SplatterMaster 09-23-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19206550)
I noticed some pirates talking after I immediately took down their links:



I have yet to look into those pieces of software, if pirates started using something like this, would it hurt? or is there a way to still obtain the link and report?

I’ve used J-downloader before. Been a while though. If I remember you can see the link with that.

Most of your big boards will not let pirates post link shortners or hidden links. Reason being is their board doesn’t get credit for the links that way and they won’t get their 5% cut. The file lockers only give the big boards 1 referrer they can send from :thumbsup

Yes, those who don't know the boards make a percentage off your content too.

Paul Markham 09-23-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19206104)
As of now the following payment systems will not accept payments for file lockers:

Moneybookers/Skrill
HiPay
AlertPay/Payza
2CO
Paxum
CCBill

For file lockers to work with Paypal they must become an approved merchant.

Paypal have terminated relationships with payments systems:

PaymentWall
CarrotPay

The news gets better and better. :thumbsup


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