epitome

Butthurt much?

What's pathetic is he only got 47% of the vote when his party was convinced he would win.

9 out of 10 of the wealthiest counties in the US voted for Obama.

As usual, all Romney had voting for him were the poor states, many of which consume more federal dollars than they actually contribute.

Robbie

Are you trying to insinuate something about me? I've never been arrested for anything buddy.
I do fly a bit though. And I was searched last year flying to New York, and searched last week flying to Austin Texas and back.

And again I say...I want ALL my freedom. That's "how much freedom" I want.

And did you not understand that when they put the locked steel doors on the planes that that put an end to any "terrorists" being able to hijack the plane?

Also...you keep saying "other countries" do it.
Yeah...they do it because WE insist on it.

Also, last time I checked I was talking about the U.S. constitution and the freedom we are supposed to have. Not what people in other countries may or may not do.

I don't want to argue this. You are fucking frustrating to me. I can't stand it when people just shrug off their personal freedom. So let's just drop the whole damn thing.

I am a guy who believes in freedom. I don't feel very "free" here. You might. And I do agree that a lot of countries ARE less free.

But I'm not here to compare my freedom to a third world shit hole country. I'm looking at the personal freedom that has slipped away over the last 20 years or so in the United States. It's baby steps.

But whatever. From the way you talk, you will be comfy no matter what the govt. does. As long as it doesn't affect you. I understand that.

But I'm not that way.

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jigg

He doesn't need it.
I once stood right next to Henry Kissinger, he had no guards or anyone near us except my friend I was with, he just stood there all by himself

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Rochard

Does anyone here know anyone who lives in poverty. I mean, I know of someone who works three fucking jobs and still volunteers her time every weekend and her three kids aren't going hungry.

Just like that black chick in Chicago - Can't pay her fucking power bill, but she can afford a forty inch flat screen and an Xbox.

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No I don't care that he pumps gas. This idiot was on TV the other day blaming everyone else but himself for losing the election. Just like Trump & Ryan, he hasn't learned a thing.

Romney Blames Obama’s “Generosity” to Minorities for Loss
http://www.bet.com/news/features/vot...-for-loss.html

Romney Blames Loss On Obama’s ‘Big Gifts’ To Minorities, Women
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...ction-loss.php

Paul Ryan Blames Loss on Unexpected ‘Urban’ Turnout
http://gawker.com/5960190/in-first-p...-urban-turnout



Etc....


What are you talking about?

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crockett

Yea you know.. who was it that made a "BIG" deal about how they were responsible for building their "OWN" business.. Meanwhile I guess when they fail it's everyone else's fault.

mineistaken

How do you know they were convinced? When you are in elections you MUST always "be convinced" (= say that you are convinced even if you are not) of your victory. Thats how it works.

Actually it was pretty clear to anybody with half brain that Obama was going to win (besides clear red or blue states there were +- 9 undecided states and Obama needed only couple of them to win PLUS according to the pools he was leading in all those 9 undecided states).

I personally made money betting on pretty much clear Hussein's victory at odds of 1.40

Not that it matters much, but 8 of 10.

just a punk

He looks insane

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mineistaken

And your point is? truth hurts? Democrats always win by getting majority of minorities and welfare leechers votes.

travs

the tide is high and he's holding on

Yanks_Todd

[QUOTE=Robbie;19324244]

Don't bring drugs on a plane, buy them there. I agree though this is a 3-5 minute impact.

What does flying in a plane look like in your proposed world? What would you do?

Umm don't commit crimes. I don't, never been to jail or prison. What would you do?

I think your right, those three-five minutes will be useful dodging flaming planes falling out of the sky and keeping the rapists away from the family. But we would be more free.

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Yanks_Todd

Totally illogical. If you are not getting searched for any reason you could easily bring on board the necessary items to pose a big enough threat to take down a plane thus holding leverage over the pilots. Leverage is power and the door can be opened.

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bronco67

For anyone who thinks Obama won by giving away "free stuff" to black people, just remember that 72% of the voting public was white.

Obama won half of the "whitest" states in the nation. Maine is 95% white and Obama won that one.

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GrantMercury

Anyone who thinks Obama won by giving away "free stuff" is a dipshit not worth wasting time on.

But point well taken.

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GrantMercury

That's bullshit. Dems get working class / middle class votes. Rethugs get the idle rich in the top 1%, and all the poor rubes they can manipulate with wedge issues and attack ads...but that MO ain't working very well for them anymore.

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GrantMercury

That's right. And remember, poverty and lack of education go hand in hand. The ONLY demographic that Mittens won handily was non-college-educated straight white males. Everyone else voted Obama. The GOP's base has shrunk considerably, because they've been so arrogant and dismissive of everybody else. Millionaire/billionaire vote = GOP. Poor white vote = GOP. Everybody else = Dem.

The fucking GOP is about cutting taxes for the rich, and rolling back regulations - it's all they've been about for many decades now. Education, healthcare, the environment, civil rights, and all the other things that a normal citizen is concerned with barely gets lip service from these pricks. And America is finally wising up, it seems.

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Yanks_Todd

It simply blows my mind that some people see something different then this.

It so painfully obvious.

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Rochard

Robbie thinks that being searched to get on a plane is an American thing and a violation of his rights. He doesn't seem to understand that every country does this.

Meanwhile, the rest of us wouldn't dare get on an airplane where everyone isn't searched.

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Yanks_Todd

It is in the Constitution as everyone knows the founding fathers had a passion for flying and didn't want anything to dampen the experience.

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Robbie

It would look exactly like it looked from the beginning.

You show up at the airport, your luggage is screened electronically. You walk on the plane and go to your destination.

Like I said before...plane hijackings and blown up airplanes happened a lot in the past.

But only after 9-11 did the federal govt. make this move.

Also, as I said, the TSA has NEVER found any bombs. And they probably never will. It's just an excuse to search people.

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mineistaken

One "little" thing.
White population in Maine and nationwide split +-50/50
Black population nationwide split 95/5

So yes when English American population is +- 50/50 you only need to control African American population to win it. Be good on welfare and you are halfway there.

DTK

This Take the time to step out of the partisan bubble and follow the money.

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Yanks_Todd

Wow, you make debating with you so easy Robbie. Just so we are clear, are you saying;

1. Multiple negative incidents of a certain type happened in the past

2. A grandiose example of said negative incident happened on 9-11-2001.

3. The people in charge of setting policies in this country put in place policies to stop the negative incidents from happening.

4. Since those policies were put in place these particular negative incidents have ceased to happen.

5. However now Robbie and his wife spend an extra 3-5 minutes in line every 3rd, 4th or 5th time they fly.

So there was a problem and the people we elect have solved it, however it cost you time. Let' be clear Robbie, it's time, not freedom. Your not free to walk on the plane with illegal substances of any kind, however you are free to fly, it's just a rule dude.

Robbie your next assignment is to google the word "deterrent" and copy and past what you find. (Ctrl+c and then Ctrl+V) in your next post. I am sure that will answer the last bit I quoted.

But once again your right, its that 3-5 minutes we as a society have to take to just make sure the people around us are all in the same mindset. It's as simple as that, some people just aren't and we need to police each other.

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Yanks_Todd

What is the English American population? Is that Americans that drink tea? Like Cricket? Drive Jaguars?

Typical ignorant post from the red team.

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epitome

It was a joke about his comment about the secret service.

Security in politics is becoming a joke though. Your importance is determined by the size of your security team and whether you have your own safe room for reviewing sensitive documents.

epitome

Unless I have you confused with someone else you may wish to go back and look at your posts on this very board.

DTK

usual disclaimer: I'm neither dem nor rep.

Your posts all reek of



How about the possibility that the Reps ran an Amateur Hour campaign with a 2nd (or 3rd) string candidate? Nahhh, that couldn't be it. No way.

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Rochard

I'm just saying you've been searched a lot.

Like what? I own a assault rifle - more than one. What more freedoms can I ask for?

Doesn't mean they can't hijack a plane - It means the "might" not be able to get into the cockpit. They don't need to get into the cockpit - they can just start killing passengers.

But what more freedoms under the US Constitution do you want? The right bear arms? Freedom of speech? Do you not understand the freedoms that we have?

I'm not shrugging off anything. I have a choice of who I can vote for, I can produce porn, I have freedom of speech, and I can own firearms. I can own as many cars and houses as I want. I can do all of this with very little restrictions from my government.

I wanted to buy an assault rifle. I paid a small free, had a back ground check, and now I can buy anything I want. Meanwhile, in Singapor, I just read an article on CNN about how you have to buy a $63k diver's license before you can buy a car. That's $63k US dollars. Still want to bitch about your freedoms?

But you can't tell us what freedoms you want other than not being searched when you get on a plane, and I'm trying to explain to you that no one in the world has that freedom.

Not at all. If there was something I disagreed with to the point I knew in my heart it needed to be changed, I would do everything I could to change it - or leave. But frankly, I don't see any major problems. I have healthcare and power and my local police patrolling my streets at night; I come and go as I please, the government never tells me I cannot do anything, I have my hobbies, my truck I'm restoring, and every other week or so I go out to shoot my firearms.

What freedoms do you not have that you want?

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Rochard

I'm really confused. I'm guessing I am a bit older than you, and I honestly don't recall any major changes in airport security. It's always been the same - they x-ray your bags, and you empty out your pockets and go through a medal detector. Every so often they pull people out of line for better search. Oh, now we have to take off our shoes. That's a big change.

I just went to Hawaii in September. I spend more time standing in line to get on the airplane than I did standing in line to pass through security. I'm just not seeing an issue here.

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KillerK

Usually I don't agree with you, but you are pretty much right on this.

From what I remember flying, they always xray'd your shit and you walked thru a metal detector. You do have to take your shoes off and stand in that big ass machine that owns you with cancer.

I think any flights that will land on US soil they require all that bs shit. But if you fly in the same countrys I dont think they require a assrape. (some of the europe people could speak up)

Robbie

What happened on 9-11 was a bunch of guys with box cutters went into the pilots cabin. They had taken basic flight lessons.

Today there are sealed steel doors that cannot be breached on the pilots cabin.

As far as "deterrent", TSA didn't catch the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber. They've NEVER caught anybody...except for drugs.

"illegal substances" Give me a fucking break. What the hell happened to you people? You all sound like my grandfather or something.

Flying on a plane is supposed to be a luxury ride with good customer service. You know, the way it was designed to be. It wasn't supposed to be the gestapo searching you before they cram you on overfilled flights. lol

I'm telling you that I don't feel one tiny bit "safer" (though I never felt very unsafe to begin with) with TSA agents feeling up Claudia Marie's tits at security than I would if I could simply walk out on the tarmac and board my plane.

And my point about the numerous hijackings and the handful of planes that were blown up over the decades was simply to point out that the govt. is not looking for bombs by searching us at security.
If they were, they would have tried this shit a long time ago.

They are looking for drugs. Failed war on drugs = YOU are searched like you were a bomber.

Nobody blew any planes up or hijacked any planes for a long time before 9-11.
The hijackings in the past were political statements by "terrorists".

The planes that were blown up in mid-air were blown up by bombs hidden in the luggage. The bomber wasn't even on board in those few cases.

9-11 was a unique circumstance that was immediately rectified by putting the steel doors on the pilots cabin.

The rest of this is just an excuse to search us.

Since you are coming at me hard about this, I can only assume you feel "safer" flying now. Even though they've NEVER caught even one bomb. You say it's a "deterrent".
No, being willing to kill yourself (as a suicide bomber) is the deterrent.

There just aren't that many of them in this world (and everyday there are less...lol).
The searches did not deter or stop the shoe bomber or the underwear bomber.

If somebody is actually crazy enough to kill themselves they WILL find a way to get a bomb on that plane. And I guarantee you that the TSA will be too busy staring at Claudia Marie's tits, or fumbling around my dick looking for non-existant drugs, or strip searching somebody's grandma to catch that one crazy fuck that will do it.

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Robbie

Actually no...If any of you notice, the Security set ups at airports are all fairly new. Most of them are almost awkward because they weren't there when the airport was built.

Pre-911 you could take someone to the airport and walk all the way to the gate with them and say goodbye as they boarded their plane.

And when you picked someone up, you met them as they walked in off the plane in the terminal.

Yes, our checked luggage was searched sometimes (and I hate that because they steal anything of value). But walking through metal detectors and xray machines and being randomly frisked NEVER happened at any airport I flew out of pre-911.

I lived in Miami and Ft. Lauderdale in the 1980's and flew out of both those airports many times.
Starting in the 1990's the Atlanta airport was my airport as I moved to Atlanta and then South Carolina. (Atlanta is the busiest airport in the world...I think I would have noticed getting searched)

As recently as 2000 I picked up Darby (formerly of Lavish Cash) at GSP airport in South Carolina when he flew in for a business meeting from California. I waited for him at the gate. I went through ZERO security to walk up to that gate and pick him up.

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BIGTYMER

What a fool pumping his own gas!!

Oh wait..

I pump my own gas too..

adultchatpay

I remember when he had the best well combed shinny hair few week ago.
His hair looks like Trump's now.

Robbie

@Yanks_Todd This is off-off-topic, but what's the status of Yanks Cash?

A while back on here I remember y'all making an announcement that the affiliate program was shutting down.

But I still log right into the admin with no problem. Did you guys decide to continue the affiliate program? I haven't tried to promote Yanks Cash at all since that announcement.

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Yanks_Todd

In August of last year (2011) we announced that we were putting the program on the market. However since then we have decided not to sell.

However while the program was for sale, all traffic and sales were counted and all payments were made. Nothing changed

So please feel free to promote the program again and let me know if you need anything to do that.

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Rochard

Bump because I can!

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It simply blows my mind that some people see something different in the Democrats.

It so painfully obvious.






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in Oregon he doesn't

baddog

I think Jersey is another state that the residents are not capable of handling a gas pump.

Rochard

Last time I went "home" to NJ I pulled into a gas station, jumped out of my car, and started pumping my gas. Gas station attendant looked at me like I was on crack.

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yeah its real funny his net worth is a small $250 million

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winter_

mitt romney had no strings attached sex with a black man, briefly, and at that very gas station. that is quite another thing from just feeling his droopy stenchy elderly penis up himself beside his car while pumping gas.

seriously, barack obama had the edge with the young people. bush, mccain and even clinton just not cool enough for school. policies of romney and so on before him just didn't appeal to the young people because they weren't socialist enough and too conservative. whenever you would see any of the republican candidates with children or teenagers they would be dressed like charlie churches wearing crosses around their necks and holding a holy bible. if the republicans had entered a frontrunning contender on the ticket a bit like ryan but less conservative and campaigned more about the fundamental needs of americans, not so much special interest in any way, shape or form, then he would have put up a strong fight and could have been elected president. when the special interests get recognised, it puts their necks out on the chopping block i can guarantee it.

nope.

maybe 2016 but knowing republicans they can never get anything right that's why i like democrat more than them. but then i don't like democrat much either really, the united states government needs more independent politicians.

democrat and republican, no difference, same shit different bucket and we all suffer go fuck yourself d.c..