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femdomdestiny · 02-18-2015, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

No he didn't. I already know what my country does. I even mentioned it before. I'm not in disillusion that my country does bad things or manages to fuck up. I'm not running around trying to pretend that we didn't invade Iraq or use drones to target Taliban in Pakistan.

Meanwhile he is still denying Russia has anything to do with the war in Ukraine because he's brainwashed by Putin's propaganda machine..

I can't speak for him , but I guess he is just irritating you and similar guys here. He don't even like Putin, so it is hardly Putin propaganda. He is not stupid person , and if I understand good, he have a rank in Russian army. We all know here that Russia or any other country would not just stand there and watch shit coming on their borders and their population being attacked.

Beside that, Ukrainian army (which is not real army because most of the people don't want to fight and are not responding to mobilization. There are bunch of nazis, NATO mercenaries and nationalists) is loosing every day. While we are speaking they are surrendering in Debaltseve : Ukraine troops withdrawing from key town of Debaltseve | World news | The Guardian and that is something that just "Rebels" can't do. Trick is that Russians are so good in what they are doing that there are no good evidences for it (except stupidity where Pornoshenko is showing passports. What soldier or spy will take passport with him if he is going into military action? ) but that is just one problem. Another one is that one who blame them lost all credibility in previous decades, with much worse mess and lies (Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavbia,etc...)

dyna mo · 02-18-2015, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Go there and ask them. Why do you ask it here?

and that makes sense to you.

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

and that makes sense to you.

Indeed

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Trick is that Russians are so good in what they are doing that there are no good evidences for it (except stupidity where Pornoshenko is showing passports. What soldier or spy will take passport with him if he is going into military action? )

As a guy who has an LT. rank in Russian army I can assure everyone here that Russian soldiers have no passports when they are on duty. Even here on the Russian territory and of course when they are acting elsewhere. According to the Geneva agreements of August 1949, the captured soldier must tell his name, rank, date of birth and his personal number. Nothing else. So Russian soldiers have no passports in their pockets. That's a rule.

The mercenaries may have anything they want, because they are mercenaries and Russian government has no control over them.

aka123 · 02-18-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

..and gifted them to the Ukraine

P.S. Maybe it's time to return those territories?

Is Russia returning for example Kaliningrad?

Finland could take back some territories also. Especially without the Russian population, or areas without Russian population.

femdomdestiny · 02-18-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Is Russia returning for example Kalingrad?

Berlin, first.

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Is Russia returning for example Kalingrad?

I don't think so, my little friend. It was taken from defeated Germany which has occupied almost a half of the European USSR. This is a just a little payback. So it's not returnable. Personally I really wonder why we haven't took more of the German territories, since your beloved Nazi's weren't feel bad taking ours. Do you think it's unfair?

dyna mo · 02-18-2015, 10:47 AM

Ok, i took russian advices and am back from frontline.

Russians said those Ukrainians are going to die

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Ok, i took russian advices and am back from frontline.

Russians said those Ukrainians are going to die

As you can see on that picture, it's the Ukrainian tank. I mean the Soviet one which is obsolete and not used in Russian army. Let's cross the finders and hope the Ukrainian tank driver is not drunk as shit to grind those poor Ukrainian soldiers.

dyna mo · 02-18-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

As you can see on that picture, it's the Ukrainian tank. I mean the Soviet one which is obsolete and not used in Russian army. Let's cross the finders and hope the Ukrainian tank driver is not drunk as shit to grind those poor Ukrainian soldiers.

defensive much? i never said anything about that being a russian tank or ukrainian tank.

the question was what the russians are going to do with those trapped ukrainians and the answer is the russians are going to kill them all.

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

the question was what the russians are going to do with those trapped ukrainians and the answer is the russians are going to kill them all.

Once again: ethnic Russians (they live in RF, Ukraine, Belorussia, Latvia, Estonia, Spain, USA, Canada, Australia etc) or citizens of Russian Federation (Russians, Tatars, Jews, Armenians, Georgians, Chechens, Suomi etc)? Please be a bit more specific in your question.

aka123 · 02-18-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

I don't think so, my little friend. It was taken from defeated Germany which has occupied almost a half of the European USSR. This is a just a little payback. So it's not returnable. Personally I really wonder why we haven't took more of the German territories, since your beloved Nazi's weren't feel bad taking ours. Do you think it's unfair?

USSR didn't feel bad about taking Baltic countries and half of Poland, and tried to invade the whole Finland and didn't feel bad taking the parts it eventually could. So, like I have said before; USSR was just as asshole as Nazi-Germany, and it has shit worth of moral rights. I think that the borders after the collapse of USSR are just fine, but if we are starting to draw lines again, Russia should give up from many territories.

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

USSR didn't feel bad about taking Baltic countries and half of Poland

Baltic countries are free now. Only parts of Poland, Hungry and Romania are still joined to the Ukraine. Do you my little Nazi friend is gonna say they have to be returned?

dyna mo · 02-18-2015, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Once again: ethnic Russians (they live in RF, Ukraine, Belorussia, Latvia, Estonia, Spain, USA, Canada, Australia etc) or citizens of Russian Federation (Russians, Tatars, Jews, Armenians, Georgians, Chechens, Suomi etc)? Please be a bit more specific in your question.

lolz, US & Canadian Russians are surrounding Ukrainians in the pocket.

that's cute.

aka123 · 02-18-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Baltic countries are free now. Only parts of Poland, Hungry and Romania are still joined to the Ukraine. Do you my little Nazi friend is gonna say they have to be returned?

It was example from that moral right thing as you mentioned Nazis taking your lands. If I remember correctly, all were returned and a tad extra.

I already said that the lines after USSR collapse are fine to me. I can't talk for behalf of every country or citizens, but for me those lines are OK.

femdomdestiny · 02-18-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

It was example from that moral right thing as you mentioned Nazis taking your lands. If I remember correctly, all were returned and a tad extra.

I already said that the lines after USSR collapse are fine to me. I can't talk for behalf of every country or citizens, but for me those lines are OK.

Little reminder about moral about your loved nazis:

Jasenovac concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mauthausen-Gusen concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dachau concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ravensbrück concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bogdanovka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krak%C3...entration_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajmi%C...entration_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klooga_concentration_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaspi...entration_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kovno_Ghetto

with some more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ntration_camps

aka123 · 02-18-2015, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

Little reminder about moral about your loved nazis

I don't love Nazis. I hope you know something about your beloved USSR. Russia hasn't been very good boy either.

"After the Soviet Union dissolved, evidence from the Soviet archives became available, containing official records of the execution of approximately 800,000 prisoners under Stalin for either political or criminal offenses, around 1.7 million deaths in the Gulags and some 390,000 deaths during kulak forced resettlement – for a total of about 3 million officially recorded victims in these categories"

"In September 1939, following the Soviet invasion of Poland, NKVD task forces started removing "Soviet-hostile elements" from the conquered territories.[95] The NKVD systematically practiced torture, which often resulted in death.[96][97]

The most notorious killings occurred in the spring of 1940, when the NKVD executed some 21,857 Polish POWs and intellectual leaders in what has become known as the Katyn massacre.[98][99][100] According to the Polish Institute of National Remembrance, 150,000 Polish citizens perished due to Soviet repression during the war.[101][102]
Plaque on the building of Government of Estonia, Toompea, commemorating government members killed by communist terror

Executions were also carried out after the annexation of the Baltic states.[103] And during the initial phases of Operation Barbarossa, the NKVD and attached units of the Red Army massacred prisoners and political opponents by the tens of thousands before fleeing from the advancing Axis forces.[104"

Mass killings under Communist regimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Soviet war crimes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

lolz, US & Canadian Russians are surrounding Ukrainians in the pocket.

that's cute.

Didn't get it. Are you drunk? Can you answer to my question of you prefer to be a clown here?

just a punk · 02-18-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

I don't love Nazis.

No comment

dyna mo · 02-18-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Didn't get it. Are you drunk? Can you answer to my question of you prefer to be a clown here?

no i'm not drunk, this isn't russia. fyi, i asked the fucking question, and I answered it. you said i should go there, remember? or did you already forget you said that?

you prolly think I'm drunk because you certainly are and simply assumed others are.

again, I asked and answered my own questions, you russians are going to kill those guys.

directfiesta · 02-18-2015, 02:14 PM

FACT ! ...

crockett · 02-18-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

The only thing you can say

When your hands are in blood of murdered people, it's not a good idea to give advices to your neighbor how to mow the lawn.

My hands are not in blood, neither are yours however I'm pointing out you are a brainwashed tool. You spew about your Supreme leader's propaganda like a good little Putinbot.

You are no different than these guys..

It's actually pretty sad, because Russia had a positive looking future, but instead you guys are determined to destroy yourselves, so once again the world will watch as your country implodes just like it did when it was the USSR. 10 years from now Russia will be just as fucked as it is today, your Putin will be sitting high on the hog while your fellow Russians sit in the rubble.

There is a reason all the smart Russians no longer live in Russia..

Sid70 · 02-18-2015, 04:35 PM

CyberSEO is a patriot, the last defense line of the coach potato forces!

just a punk · 02-19-2015, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

My hands are not in blood, neither are yours however I'm pointing out you are a brainwashed tool. You spew about your Supreme leader's propaganda like a good little Putinbot.

You are no different than these guys..

What state is that? Alaska? And what happened to those people? The nearest Krusty Burger has been closed?

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There is a reason all the smart Russians no longer live in Russia..

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

again, I asked and answered my own questions, you russians are going to kill those guys.

Who are Russians? Ethnic Russians from Ukraine or citizens of Russian Federation? By the way, I'm Russian too but I don't want to kill anybody. So Sir, right now you are simple lying

femdomdestiny · 02-19-2015, 02:55 AM

just a punk · 02-19-2015, 03:11 AM

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Ouch. Looks like he's get a serious trauma.

aka123 · 02-19-2015, 03:32 AM

Traveling on top of a AFV or MTB is not usually remommended, it is more like ad hoc arrangement. And there you see one reason why.

just a punk · 02-19-2015, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

Traveling on top of a AFV or MTB is not usually remommended, it is more like ad hoc arrangement. And there you see one reason why.

It was highly recommended in the Soviet army. Especially during the Afghan war. When a light-armored vehicle gets blown up by anti-tank mine, the crew inside usually dies. Those who on the top survive. A lot of lives were saved using this method.

_Richard_ · 02-19-2015, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

what is he even doing? climbing out of the apc?

aka123 · 02-19-2015, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

It was highly recommended in the Soviet army. Especially during the Afghan war. When a light-armored vehicle gets blown up by anti-tank mine, the crew inside usually dies. Those who on the top survive. A lot of lives were saved using this method.

That thing totally depends about the location of the mine detonation. And besides, AFVs or armoured personnel carriers main purpose is to protect passengers against direct and undirect fire, and from anti-personnel mines, not from anti-tank mines.

But you can do things in Russia as you want, actually I prefer you doing it the wrong way.

just a punk · 02-19-2015, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aka123

That thing totally depends about the location of the mine detonation. And besides, AFVs or armoured personnel carriers main purpose is to protect passengers against direct and undirect fire, and from anti-personnel mines, not from anti-tank mines.

But you can do things in Russia as you want, actually I prefer you doing it the wrong way.

Sid70 · 02-19-2015, 08:28 AM

This is what I think about this thread.

Kolargol · 02-19-2015, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Baltic countries are free now. Only parts of Poland, Hungry and Romania are still joined to the Ukraine. Do you my little Nazi friend is gonna say they have to be returned?

What he probably thinks is that none of the borders in this area should be moved. And that includes Russia.

Regarding Ukrainians - it is a nation even if it was occupied by its neighbors for a long time.

In Ukraine there are many nations: Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Tatars (mostly in grabbed Crimea)

Ukraine is an independent country invaded by Russian empire.

Simple truths but seem too hard to grasp.

Kolargol · 02-19-2015, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

No comment

After all it was your country that allied with Hitler not his.

Kolargol · 02-19-2015, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

As a guy who has an LT. rank in Russian army I can assure everyone here that Russian soldiers have no passports when they are on duty. Even here on the Russian territory and of course when they are acting elsewhere. According to the Geneva agreements of August 1949, the captured soldier must tell his name, rank, date of birth and his personal number. Nothing else. So Russian soldiers have no passports in their pockets. That's a rule.

The mercenaries may have anything they want, because they are mercenaries and Russian government has no control over them.

I just want to make sure I understand you well - there are no Russian troops, tanks and all kinds of equipment fighting in Ukraine?

Sid70 · 02-19-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

I just want to make sure I understand you well - there are no Russian troops, tanks and all kinds of equipment fighting in Ukraine?

CyberSEO put his replies on auto-pilot generator plug-in, don't try to question or use logic and facts.

aka123 · 02-19-2015, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

After all it was your country that allied with Hitler not his.

Well, actually both countries kinda allied with Germany. My country had just some co-objectives, but when shit hit the fan, my country did a pact with Germany to get more guns and such. And we also did war against Germany when we shortly after broke that pact.

But CyberDude shouldn't shout too much about that pact, as after making pact with Germany, Soviets tried to invade Finland (that was given to Soviets in that pact). So, neither side kinda cared shit worth about us. Luckily we could defend ourselves (twice during WWII, 3 times if war against Germany is counted).

just a punk · 02-20-2015, 02:08 AM

Ukrainians rebels ask Poroshenko to pull back the regular Ukrainian army (good guys) but leave there all the 17 battalions of Right Sector Nazis. They want to get some fun with those.

aka123 · 02-20-2015, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Ukrainians rebels ask Poroshenko to pull back the regular Ukrainian army (good guys) but leave there all the 17 battalions of Right Sector Nazis. They want to get some fun with those.

Should the Ukraine rebels pull back, and leave the Russians to be slaughtered? Those nazis and commies (Russia has plenty of both, what a wonderful combination).

Naziis, all over...

aka123 · 02-20-2015, 03:15 AM

Hahaha!! Russia has half of the world's nazis. And some poor brainwashed Russians go to Ukraine to fight against nazis.

"In a 2007 news story, ABC News reported, "In a country that lost more people defeating the Nazis than any other country, there are now an estimated 50,000 to 70,000 neo-Nazis, half of the world's total."

Neo-Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

just a punk · 02-22-2015, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You spew about your Supreme leader's propaganda like a good little Putinbot.

You are fuckin' stupid and brainwashed cunt. Calling me a Putinbot is like to call you a shit eater (but maybe I'm wrong and you are really into that... I don't know). Where I ever supported him? You rednecks are real headless if you believe into all that propaganda that all Russians support Putin. Russia is not the USA or North Korea. A lot of people here (including me) sincerely hate Putin with his cowardly and thievish gang.

Just a picture to compare:

Anti-Putin people on the left and pro-Putin ones on the right. Just look at their faces and you'll see who's on the bight side, and who is a spawn of evil. Don't focus your attention on their number. The left ones are only agitating for anti-Putin march which will be held on March 1st. While on the right side you can see people during the Putin-cock-sucking-march which already took place yesterday (most of those people were paid for participation).

Pro-Putin Russians (mostly paid ones):

Anti-Putin Russians:

Feel the difference and never call me a Putinbot, you retarded clown.

Kolargol · 02-22-2015, 08:28 AM

That's true. CyberSEO has always been against Putin.

Sid70 · 02-22-2015, 12:45 PM

just a punk · 02-23-2015, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Nobody can read it here, you stupid ruski drunk fuck.

crockett · 02-23-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol

That's true. CyberSEO has always been against Putin.

Yet he spews about the same propaganda that he is spoon fed by RT.. If that's not a Putinbot I dunno what is.. It makes him worse actually, because if he really did not like Putin, he would be questioning Russia's actions in Ukraine instead of buying into Putin's propaganda and repeating it here.

Sid70 · 02-27-2015, 02:47 AM

_Richard_ · 02-27-2015, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Yet he spews about the same propaganda that he is spoon fed by RT.. If that's not a Putinbot I dunno what is.. It makes him worse actually, because if he really did not like Putin, he would be questioning Russia's actions in Ukraine instead of buying into Putin's propaganda and repeating it here.

or, maybe you should question why someone who has been 100% against putin, the entire time, doesn't question 'putins actions in ukraine'.

seems like the perfect opportunity, yes?

aka123 · 02-27-2015, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

I agree; the sausages should be on sale today. WTF Ruskies?!! I have valid coupon right here.

just a punk · 02-27-2015, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

or, maybe you should question why someone who has been 100% against putin, the entire time, doesn't question 'putins actions in ukraine'.

seems like the perfect opportunity, yes?

Why should I question 'putins actions in ukraine'? I always told that I don't support all that conflict on the Ukraine and I never wanted Russia to be involved in it. Nothing has changed since then

BTW, this is what Gorbachev (not me) says about Crimea: Mikhail Gorbachev: "The Return of the Crimea to Russia - this is happiness".

_Richard_ · 02-27-2015, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Why should I question 'putins actions in ukraine'? I always told that I don't support all that conflict on the Ukraine and I never wanted Russia to be involved in it. Nothing has changed since then

BTW, this is what Gorbachev (not me!) says about Crimea: Mikhail Gorbachev: "The Return of the Crimea to Russia - this is happiness".

because the man seems to have missed the fact you have said on multiple occasions that you don't support the conflict and don't want your country involved.

seems that some people want a good hollywood story turned into real life, starring 'soviet russians' that disappeared over 20 years ago.

if the real issues we face is the disruption of the USD as reserve currency, faced with a series of developing nations on pace to surpass western economies within 20 years.. why is blind propaganda our talking points, and military our answer?

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