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Old 02-26-2015, 07:09 AM   #51
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Looks like Hulk on steroids (the Hulk Hogan type). And as we are on the subject, my muscles are all natural, although I have taken protein supplements.


EDIT: Oh, you changed the picture. Was that you in the pic?
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:25 AM   #54
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Yea it was me...I figured someone would say something like that lol. Did a couple cycles back in my college days but that was over 6 years ago and I didnt know what a good diet was. Now that that has changed and I educated myself on proper nutrition and training my physique has been better than ever. Diet is really 90% of the game...anyone can go and move weights around
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Yea it was me...I figured someone would say something like that lol. Did a couple cycles back in my college days but that was over 6 years ago and I didnt know what a good diet was. Now that that has changed and I educated myself on proper nutrition and training my physique has been better than ever. Diet is really 90% of the game...anyone can go and move weights around
Although for regular gym guy, the diet is not that important; especially if you already eat healthy. Most get already enough protein and food in general. Although not that many get it from healthy diet.

You need most protein if you exercise every day and kinda break you muscles. As your body needs big amounts of protein just to fix your muscles. Taking more easy, you need "extra" protein mostly just to grow muscles. Although there is of course some repairing always, even if you don't exercise.

The limit really comes your genes/qualities by birth, unless you take steroids and such. But of course you have to exercise to get to your limit.
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Although for regular gym guy, the diet is not that important; especially if you already eat healthy. Most get already enough protein and food in general. Although not that many get it from healthy diet.

You need most protein if you exercise every day and kinda break you muscles. As your body needs big amounts of protein just to fix your muscles. Taking more easy, you need "extra" protein mostly just to grow muscles. Although there is of course some repairing always, even if you don't exercise.

The limit really comes your genes/qualities by birth, unless you take steroids and such. But of course you have to exercise to get to your limit.
It really depends on what your goals are. I just go to the gym and follow my diet closely. If you want to make progress you must always change your diet and lifting routine once your body becomes acclimated to it. Hitting your "natural limit" is extremely extremely difficult. Your body not only needs protein for muscle repair but also carbohydrates/glycogen as fuel along with a proper balance of fats for your natural hormone support.
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Although for regular gym guy, the diet is not that important; especially if you already eat healthy. Most get already enough protein and food in general. Although not that many get it from healthy diet.

You need most protein if you exercise every day and kinda break you muscles. As your body needs big amounts of protein just to fix your muscles. Taking more easy, you need "extra" protein mostly just to grow muscles. Although there is of course some repairing always, even if you don't exercise.

The limit really comes your genes/qualities by birth, unless you take steroids and such. But of course you have to exercise to get to your limit.


I am taking in approx 200 grams or so of protein per day now.


I have a 3 day on , one day off cycle that includes cardio


getting massive GAINZ so far
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It really depends on what your goals are. I just go to the gym and follow my diet closely. If you want to make progress you must always change your diet and lifting routine once your body becomes acclimated to it. Hitting your "natural limit" is extremely extremely difficult. Your body not only needs protein for muscle repair but also carbohydrates/glycogen as fuel along with a proper balance of fats for your natural hormone support.
No matter how much you exercise, at the end your own testosterone production limits your capabilities, even though more muscle mass will somewhat increase the testosterone production to preserve it.

Of course with serious efforts you can squeeze more, at least to some point, but if there is no other limit, it is that you age and eventually die. The results become so diminishing small even with big efforts, that you will die before you become true Hulk. Assuming that you don't use any substances.

For regular guy; they won't even try to push that far (usually to start with). When the results start to diminish due to limit what their body produces testosterone, it is pretty much it.
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No matter how much you exercise, at the end your own testosterone production limits your capabilities, even though more muscle mass will somewhat increase the testosterone production to preserve it.

Of course with serious efforts you can squeeze more, at least to some point, but if there is no other limit, it is that you age and eventually die. The results become so diminishing small even with big efforts that you will die before you become true Hulk. Assuming that you don't use any substances.

For regular guy; they won't even try to push that far (usually to start with). When the results start to diminish due to limit what their body produces testosterone, it is pretty much it.
Ive been in the game for about 8 years so far and continue to make changes albeit mass, muscle density or muscle maturity. You always are changing and progressing. Im only 30 years old so I still some gas left in the tank and in the best shape of my life. I was 120lbs when I started working out at 192 right before I was injured. Was out of the gym for 8 months, dropped down to 175 now back at 185 after being back for a month. Results typically diminish due to improper nutrition and not training hard enough, not testosterone (although this does start to take its toll with age)... its extremely hard to reach that limit.
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Ive been in the game for about 8 years so far and continue to make changes albeit mass, muscle density or muscle maturity. You always are changing and progressing. Im only 30 years old so I still some gas left in the tank and in the best shape of my life. I was 120lbs when I started working out at 192 right before I was injured. Was out of the gym for 8 months, dropped down to 175 now back at 185 after being back for a month. Results typically diminish due to improper nutrition and not training hard enough, not testosterone (although this does start to take its toll with age)... its extremely hard to reach that limit.
The limit isn't of course same for everybody, and if I didn't get it wrong, you use some substances too. Also, the ones with low limit, probably quit the gym quite soon. You know, if you are sucky runner, you probably don't plan it as your career to start with.

Personally I target about the muscle mass I have in that pic. At some point I used to have a decent amount more, but I started to look too Hulk like. Also, the Hulk look is not that good in many professions, I have to think that too. And most of the chicks either don't like the Hulk look. They like the Brad Pitt look and such.
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The limit isn't of course same for everybody, and if I didn't get it wrong, you use some substances too. Also, the ones with low limit, probably quit the gym quite soon. You know, if you are sucky runner, you probably don't plan it as your career to start with.

Personally I target about the muscle mass I have in that pic. At some point I used to have a decent amount more, but I started to look too Hulk like. Also, the Hulk look is not that good in many professions, I have to think that too. And most of the chicks either don't like the Hulk look. They like the Brad Pitt look and such.

We all have different goals in mind. I am in no way a gorilla looking juice head who walks around beating his chest. I have an ectomorph body type which is very lean/athletic looking build
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You ever make your own homemade protein bars Phil? Theres some great recipes out there, i like the refrigerated type.

oatmeal, peanut butter, chocolate gainer/whey isolate , milk is a good base for any homemade protein bar and makes your protein/gainer powder last forever

i typically add some banana/cinnamon in there to make them better
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You ever make your own homemade protein bars Phil? Theres some great recipes out there, i like the refrigerated type.

oatmeal, peanut butter, chocolate gainer/whey isolate , milk is a good base for any homemade protein bar and makes your protein/gainer powder last forever

i typically add some banana/cinnamon in there to make them better
Sure have, this is the recipe I've used -

2 cups Roasted Oats - just take oats and put them in the oven at 350 for about 5-7 minutes
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Mix in a bowl till all ingredients mixed, press into a 9x9 baking sheet lined with parchment paper, bake @ 350 for 4-5 minutes (time varies depending on oven)
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I didn't even know that egg whites are also sold separely (from the egg), although google shows that it is sold in here too. So, what you do with that? Just drink?

But yes, key to success, or to very fat ass. Most will get just the latter one.
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I didn't even know that egg whites are also sold separely (from the egg), although google shows that it is sold in here too. So, what you do with that?
I mix it with walden farms calorie free chocolate syrup and drink it instead of having whey protein shakes. Whole foods > Supplements
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So, how good is the egg white's protein profile? Isn't whey protein top notch in that category? What about the price?
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Sure have, this is the recipe I've used -

2 cups Roasted Oats - just take oats and put them in the oven at 350 for about 5-7 minutes
1/4 cup Wheat Flour
1 cup Protein Powder
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1/2 teaspoon Vanilla Extract
Add extra Cinnamon to taste

Mix in a bowl till all ingredients mixed, press into a 9x9 baking sheet lined with parchment paper, bake @ 350 for 4-5 minutes (time varies depending on oven)
Ill have to try that sometime, i prefer non baked foods, i feel i can consume more. I also prefer the texture but that does sound good so ill give it a go
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So, how good is the egg white's protein profile? Isn't whey protein top notch in that category? What about the price?
Egg whites have a higher bioavailability of whey. Whey is the left over from cheese manufacture which used to be thrown out. Now we consume it . I try and stay away from it as much as possible sticking with whole food sources for protein other than immediately post workout. Ill drink and cook about 32oz/Day which is about 25-30 egg whites @ $3.59/carton

As for that recipe it is not required that you bake it. Also if you bake it for 3-4 minutes only it does not actually bake more or less just sets to a more solid bar
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Egg whites have a higher bioavailability of a whey. Whey is the left over from cheese manufacture which used to be thrown out. Now we consume it . I try and stay away from it as much as possible sticking with whole food sources for protein other than immediately post workout. Ill drink and cook about 32oz/Day which is about 25-30 egg whites @ $3.59/carton

As for that recipe it is not required that you bake it. Also if you bake it for 3-4 minutes only it does not actually bake more or less just sets to a more solid bar
Around here curd is most popular whole pood protein, acting as a some sort of a supplement. Not that different from whey protein (through manufacture), although the whey is mostly separated from the curd during manufacture; as the liquid whey is rinsed away. Still, curd has quite much protein.

I don't shy away from whey protein, I don't keep it as very artificial.
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Around here curd is most popular whole pood protein, acting as a some sort of a supplement. Not that different from whey protein (through manufacture), although the whey is mostly separated from the curd during manufacture; as the liquid whey is rinsed away. Still, curd has quite much protein.

I don't shy away from whey protein, I don't keep it as very artificial.
I tend to stay away from dairy as a whole...tons of saturated fats and sugars, and im lactose sensitive.
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I was surprised to find out recently that the egg whites have more protein than the yolks. Removing the yolk cuts almost half the protein from the egg, but you can make up for it by having more whites and still not reach the fat and cholesterol levels in the yolk.
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For those trying to get in shape...don't forget to take some monounsaturated fats. Avocados, macadamia nuts, olive oil, salmon.
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