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Old 05-28-2015, 10:55 AM   #101
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The same Christian's who owned slaves?

The same Christian's who turned to passages in The Bible in order to feel good about being against interracial marriage?

The same Christian's who turn to passages in The Bible in order to deny gay people rights?

The same Christian's who turn to The Bible that says:

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However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 24:44-46 NLT)
Are you saying Christian's are just hypocrites who pick and choose what they want to believe in The Bible to suit their own whims?
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Old 05-28-2015, 02:47 PM   #102
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People who believe in any of those religions in this day and age ought to have their heads examined.
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Slavery is alive and well. The slaves just don't know that they are slaves. It's far cheaper to allow the slave the illusion of freedom and pay them a slave wage than it is to pay for 100% of their upkeep. We are all slaves, the ones who think that they are free just don't know they are slaves.
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I contend that we are both an atheist. I just belive in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:41 PM   #104
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WOW!

it says this in the bible?

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 24:44-46 NLT)
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Old 05-29-2015, 02:34 AM   #105
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Are you saying Christian's are just hypocrites who pick and choose what they want to believe in The Bible to suit their own whims?

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Since slavery still exists in every country this thread is nonsense your local brothel is still full of illegal immigrants.
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Slavery is alive and well. The slaves just don't know that they are slaves. It's far cheaper to allow the slave the illusion of freedom and pay them a slave wage than it is to pay for 100% of their upkeep. We are all slaves, the ones who think that they are free just don't know they are slaves.
Indeed...few want to see the reality of their chains as they drive in the metal boxes to cubicles to work 8 hours at something they hate to return drive their metal boxes back to the bigger box they have a 30 years to pay for. Get up the next day and repeat.

It is pretty bad when you hate 5 days out of 7 and just sort of enjoy 2 of them...before starting the whole process over again...over and over and over and over...

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Indeed...few want to see the reality of their chains as they drive in the metal boxes to cubicles to work 8 hours at something they hate to return drive their metal boxes back to the bigger box they have a 30 years to pay for. Get up the next day and repeat.

It is pretty bad when you hate 5 days out of 7 and just sort of enjoy 2 of them...before starting the whole process over again...over and over and over and over...

You've nailed a profound point.

Imagine this... 2 x 52 + shitty vacation - 8 hours each week dreading going back on Monday... slavery is alive and well...unless you take the blue pill.
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:13 AM   #109
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If I made that assumption I apologize - I usually reign in my posts but that one got away from me. And yeah, move on, but I have a weak spot for innocent people who were crushed and had no idea it would ever get better, like the kids sent to siberia by stalin. In that way I agree with Jared Diamond, i.e. that agricultural and sedentary civilization is the worst mistake humanity ever made.
I've read some of Jared diamonds stuff and I'm not sure I agree with everything he says... one thing I always keep in mind is Napoleon Hill's statement: 'there is no understanding of man's inhumanity to man'

if I spent time thinking about that issue I would be sick inside with, not records and documents about the holocaust when I was around 10.... caused a real negative affect in my life. I stared focusing on all the inhumanity that I didn't let go of until my mid twenties. so believe when I tell you I'm very aware of the atrocities, I prefer to focus my energy else ware...

like a Vietnam once told me.... it was a story about his job in the jungle.... setting mechanicals.... mechanicals is the PC name for bobby traps...they guys would sit around getting high or what ever until hey heard the bang and the screams.. then all the guys would go down to the trap to see who got mutilated except the guy I spoke with... his comment was "I don't have a door in the back of my head, what goes in stays there. I don't want that stuff in there"

the stuff with issi that I catch is bad enough for me

I and don't place the blame on religion, I place the blame on the squarely on the individuals
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I have to go with what I learned in college over 30 years ago in Western Civ and all my Humanities classes.

And in every one of those classes...when we got to the eras of architecture, art, music, and literature...the Church was large and in charge during the middle ages. And that's why there are no secular examples of greatness (plenty of Church related greatness though).

So to say that NOW...people are rewriting history with articles on the internet doesn't phase me or change my opinion.

History doesn't change. And in my learning experience...BEFORE people started trying to slant history...the Catholic Church was a monstrosity that was extremely detrimental to human development.
enjoy your classic education Robbie because the new generation is not getting one...history is being rewritten
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it says this in the bible?

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 24:44-46 NLT)
this is where islam pulled the creepy shit issi is doing...btw that's Judaism... not so sure there are any directives about slavery in the new testament...
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You've nailed a profound point.

Imagine this... 2 x 52 + shitty vacation - 8 hours each week dreading going back on Monday... slavery is alive and well...unless you take the blue pill.
this is funny.... trying living in 1320 and then cry about your life today

(are you black? only group of people I can think of demanding a free ride)
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So you believe that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father, and had to rape his own mother so he could be transported from Heaven to Earth via a teenage virgins vagina, can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

And of course once he was here the almighty and powerful creator of all existence that took the form of a man, just so he could allow himself to commit suicide using Roman forces to hang him from a cross and die, so he could be dead for 3 days and mildly inconvenienced, all so he could find someway to forgive us for sins he knew we would commit before he created us.

And if you don't believe in him he'll send you to "hell" the place he created just to torture his creations that refused to believe in him on bad evidence. And he of course has "Satan" to rule over hell. Satan the arch nemesis he knowingly created.... Of course he created his creations knowing before creating them that most of them would end up being tortured for eternity for the deeds of an average of 75 years..

And you find this all to be historically true and factual, and have no logic alarms go off in your head, but I'm a fool..

We can get into fitting 15,000 animals on a 500ft long wooden boat maintained by 8 humans all over 100 years of age, and the leader a solid 5 to 600 years old.. And how they disposed of the poop with magic powers granted by a god that killed everything on the planet whether it was innocent or not. Seems really "wise" Derp...


But please tell us more how Christianity ended slavery, when the very book you hold oh so high, never once denounces slavery.... double derp..
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So you believe that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father, and had to rape his own mother so he could be transported from Heaven to Earth via a teenage virgins vagina, can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

And of course once he was here the almighty and powerful creator of all existence that took the form of a man, just so he could allow himself to commit suicide using Roman forces to hang him from a cross and die, so he could be dead for 3 days and mildly inconvenienced, all so he could find someway to forgive us for sins he knew we would commit before he created us.

And if you don't believe in him he'll send you to "hell" the place he created just to torture his creations that refused to believe in him on bad evidence. And he of course has "Satan" to rule over hell. Satan the arch nemesis he knowingly created.... Of course he created his creations knowing before creating them that most of them would end up being tortured for eternity for the deeds of an average of 75 years..

And you find this all to be historically true and factual, and have no logic alarms go off in your head, but I'm a fool..

We can get into fitting 15,000 animals on a 500ft long wooden boat maintained by 8 humans all over 100 years of age, and the leader a solid 5 to 600 years old.. And how they disposed of the poop with magic powers granted by a god that killed everything on the planet whether it was innocent or not. Seems really "wise" Derp...


But please tell us more how Christianity ended slavery, when the very book you hold oh so high, never once denounces slavery.... double derp..
which part of "I am not a Christian, I am not religious" is giving you the difficult time understanding?
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I've read some of Jared diamonds stuff and I'm not sure I agree with everything he says... one thing I always keep in mind is Napoleon Hill's statement: 'there is no understanding of man's inhumanity to man'

if I spent time thinking about that issue I would be sick inside with, not sure about the word for it, a spiritual illness inside, read the records and documents about the holocaust when I was around 10.... caused a real negative affect in my life. I stared focusing on all the inhumanity that I didn't let go of until my mid twenties. so believe me when I tell you I'm very aware of the atrocities, I prefer to focus my energy elseware...

like a Vietnam once told me.... it was a story about his job in the jungle.... setting mechanicals.... mechanicals is the PC name for bobby traps...the guys would sit around getting high or what ever until they heard the bang and the screams.. then all the guys would go down to the trap to see who got mutilated except the guy I spoke with... his comment was "I don't have a door in the back of my head, what goes in stays there. I don't want that stuff in there"

the stuff with issi that I catch is bad enough for me

I and don't place the blame on religion, I place the blame on the squarely on the individuals
small fixes...
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which part of "I am not a Christian, I am not religious" is giving you the difficult time understanding?
What you claim to be, and what you are, are two different things apparently. Do you believe that Jesus is your lord and savior? Yes or no? Do you believe there is an invisible unseen deity somewhere listening to your every thoughts and judging your actions? Yes or no. Otherwise why in the fucking fuck would you fucking make this thread? lol Cracks me up that there are so many god believers on an Adult webmaster site... lol
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What you claim to be, and what you are, are two different things apparently. Do you believe that Jesus is your lord and savior? Yes or no? Do you believe there is an invisible unseen deity somewhere listening to your every thoughts and judging your actions? Yes or no. Otherwise why in the fucking fuck would you fucking make this thread? lol Cracks me up that there are so many god believers on an Adult webmaster site... lol
I've never stated that I'm a Christian, that's something in your head that does not exist and never did exist.... I started the thread out of 'intellectual curiosity' ...don't worry this will never happen to you

say aren't you the guy that sucked some dicks to figure out if he was gay or needed money pay your hosting bill or something?

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What you claim to be, and what you are, are two different things apparently. Do you believe that Jesus is your lord and savior? Yes or no? Do you believe there is an invisible unseen deity somewhere listening to your every thoughts and judging your actions? Yes or no. Otherwise why in the fucking fuck would you fucking make this thread? lol Cracks me up that there are so many god believers on an Adult webmaster site... lol
Q. Do you believe that Jesus is your lord and savior?
A. Nope.

Q. Do you believe there is an invisible unseen deity somewhere listening to your every thoughts and judging your actions?
A. Nope.

Can I comprehend that the church/religious people, with whom I disagree entirely about 'religion' and all the rest of that nonsense, have actually done just as much good collectively as they have done bad things collectively? Yeah.

Would those good things have happened anyway, regardless of whether the church/religious people 'stepped up'? I'd say yes.

Would those bad things have happened anyway, under a different guise by different groups? I'd say yes to that as well.
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I've never stated that I'm a Christian, that's something in your head that does not exist and never did exist.... I started the thread out of 'intellectual curiosity' ...don't worry this will never happen to you

say aren't you the guy that sucked some dicks to figure out if he was gay or needed money pay your hosting bill or something?

No, you are thinking of your mom. I never had to suck a dick to pay for hosting, or like you had to, to atone for your sins to some fella with a bible and an erection.
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Q. Do you believe that Jesus is your lord and savior?
A. Nope.

Q. Do you believe there is an invisible unseen deity somewhere listening to your every thoughts and judging your actions?
A. Nope.

Can I comprehend that the church/religious people, with whom I disagree entirely about 'religion' and all the rest of that nonsense, have actually done just as much good collectively as they have done bad things collectively? Yeah.

Would those good things have happened anyway, regardless of whether the church/religious people 'stepped up'? I'd say yes.

Would those bad things have happened anyway, under a different guise by different groups? I'd say yes to that as well.

that's a very balanced opinion, personally I do accept a god in my life but more on a quantum level than some old white guy with a beard spying on me
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No, you are thinking of your mom. I never had to suck a dick to pay for hosting, or like you had to, to atone for your sins to some fella with a bible and an erection.
is this the part where I supposed to be insulted
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It's not so much about hating it --

It's more about being in awe of the stupidity of the jackoffs who blindly follow it.
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that's a very balanced opinion, personally I do accept a god in my life but more on a quantum level than some old white guy with a beard spying on me
same really, in a general sense. For me god is a catchall word that has nothing to do with the word God or any religion - the majority of people can't separate the two uses/meanings (which is why I still almost never use it, and tbh still have the same connotations myself whenever I hear it lol)

god = mother nature, the force, fate, karma, life essence, or whatever else it is that any person personally believes has a greater sway on the universe than they do. In that sense, there is something bigger than me, even if it's the non-sentient process itself of chemical reactions causing the Big Bang, which has that 'order' to it.

God = sentient deity choosing event A or B, that you can even 'worship' in the first place.

Just my very basic take on it.
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same really, in a general sense. For me god is a catchall word that has nothing to do with the word God or any religion - the majority of people can't separate the two uses/meanings
my thoughts exactly

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god = mother nature, the force, fate, karma, life essence, or whatever else it is that any person personally believes has a greater sway on the universe than they do. In that sense, there is something bigger than me, even if it's the non-sentient process itself of chemical reactions causing the Big Bang, which has that 'order' to it.

God = sentient deity choosing event A or B, that you can even 'worship' in the first place.

Just my very basic take on it.
I don't even define the concept that far... for me god is something that I accept with open heart and use to the best of my ability... prayer works very well in my life .... I figure it takes one to know what so I don't even try and define god
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It's not so much about hating it --

It's more about being in awe of the stupidity of the jackoffs who blindly follow it.
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