People also needs to understand nothing last forever. Chaturbate was uncontested for years and the main competition was LiveJamsin, MyFreeCams, BongaCams.

Competition is catching up, especially Stripchat and some niche oriented camsite.

If you have some model stealing/organising, more competition (more and more people advertise CB), more sites competing, and less purchase power, of course you're going to see less revenues on the short / long term. It's nothing abnormal, it's contextualized.

And for real, if you're making less than $150 a day on Chaturbate, stop trying to tell me your average has gone down. Its way not enough to consider it stable, as it's probably 10/15 spenders a day top.

Chaturbate is a waste of time,I have seen a model requesting everyone on live cam to rejoin CB with her link and it will help her. lol What a waste.

report the model with proof and they will get banned

Can another Chaturbate affiliate promote your white label with there tracking code in it?

:thumbsup:thumbsup

You know I was making more than $150 a day for over 2 years and suddenly I can't a day with $100 I got a day with 0 I have very very very strange stats and I send a huge letter to Chaturbate explaining the issues. 35 out of my Top 50 spenders are gone but the strangest part is that a whitelabel that I have referred around 10 000 users had literally 100$ in earnings in the past 4 months

What was the % of revenues coming from the top 3 and 5 spenders?
=> Fact is, most user have 3 or 4 spenders that represent >60/70% of spending. They do not have a life contract with you, if someday they decide to stop spending on chaturbate, that's their life. Tons of things happens to people that make them decide stopping speding online or on a certain site. If they are stolen, they will be given back to you.

What was teh main source of trafic of your white label?
=> Working in SEO for a decade now, I've seen a lot of site geting off the serps because their brand is suddenly autocorrected by Google. Was that your case?

Yes completely agree, whales come and leave, 5 whales can make your year and when they disappear your business is dead for months, I have a new user who spent $10k in 6 days and next to that I have one hundred signups who spent $0. Its not about $150 per day or whatever number you put here..

you can't expect those big spenders to keep spending forever.

in the past 10 years i had people spending $1k+ daily on various cam sites, but those never lasted long.

btw, around 2020-21 during covid lockdowns there were quite more of those big spenders.

Yes they can.

it's not a bad month actually.

Let's hope so. After resisting doing so for more than a year I have finally sent "the letter" concerning this.

Yeah but what a time consuming headache for both affiliate AND CB support to have to check stats every month and see who you lost and then hope that if they were stolen CB will acknowledge that and then credit them back to you, and then hope they are not stolen again.

And then repeat every quarter or time period etc, (BTW that's IF you can get your spender back).

I'm not saying you don't have valid points Bill, you definitely do. But something's going on for a whole lot of affiliates since last Summer/Fall and maybe talking about it in this thread will expose the problem, that may be CB's fault or may be the affiliate's fault, or maybe it's just economic conditions etc. (i.e. nobodies).

I understand the frustration, but so far, except 1 or 2 persons that have REALLY odd stats, which for me are isolated problem, the average joe working as an affiliate doesnt meet any problem, CF the average revenue stats on my tool.

It's getting better this month. :thumbsup

Yeah. It could also be the down turn in the economy to some extent. People are still traveling and spending money on 'some' items. But overall I'm seeing a tightening beginning, as a response to the inflation and discretionary spending is usually the first to go.

everyone sends in a few of their whales that have moved on but what about those no spenders that become whales after they were stolen ? :(

Exactly!!!

Someone spends 1000$ on a girl and gets stolen you don't give a fuck cause it is only $200 but in the long term he can be a $1 000 000 spender...

Hi Bill, is there a way to get the full list of all new spenders from the beginning, using your tool?

Yep! So i only can repeat: With compliments of the advertising and Bio/link policy from CB...

With all of the traffic leaks, what's a better cam site to promote these days?

My referred accounts have tens of thousands of signups, but spending is about half of what it was about a year ago, but signups have been steady every single day. (Over $2mil in spending now, though, so not terrible.)

Something that works well promoting direct, too, not interested in CPAs at the moment. I want a little project to work on when I'm not in the lab.

Thanks!

are you actively sending traffic to that whitelabel with 10k users? or is it idle?

When promoting cb whitelabels is it more effective to put my affiliate code in the link? ie domainname.com/in/?tour=uhEc&campaign=xxxxf&track=default instead of domainname.com

The data is in the DB, but not working on improving the tool anymore, too costly.

When promoting cb whitelabels, I only promote my domain. That way if something happens like you get banned, you can send your traffic to the next site in a few clicks.

Over the many years, have done very well with CB, and the pandemic blew the lid off my sales. Since the pandemic times have been fading, so have my CB sales. Makes some sense in terms of the stimulus money and now an uncertain economy. I will also be adding Stripcash to the mix of my ads.

What I really want to know - and I admit I've been lazy about this - is how to see if spenders are getting sniped by models or some other way - I don't know how to track this or what patterns to look for. Or how to keep tabs on a Whale. In fact I wasn't even aware of it. I can't see I see anything suspicious per se. Where do I start? And does the CB Stats page provide such insight?

Hello Bill,

I download the csv file without ?limit=100 , but I got an archive with information since October 2021, Do you know how I can get the full archive?

Use cb-stats.com and it will show you your big spenders and when was the last time they spent, if it is has been a while, it will be orange or red, you take that member ID and send request to support to see if that member ID has been phished from you.

Chaturbate CSV only allow up to 10K lines. Whatever happens before those 10K lines, i can't technically get it.

Oh I understand it, thank you Bill

Have you considered charging for access to your tool? in order to continue having it updated and with improvements. I think many of us would be willing to pay a monthly fee to be able to use it

First time that I can see a negative spending, so my revenue for this period all of a sudden turned to negative. Any insights on this? Was is a chargeback and for the next cycle instead of 0 I have to start from the negative value for revenue?

look at your stats file (.csv) and you should be able to see the negative transactions.

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To be honest I did, but project stopped halfway through. Developer couldnt bother continuing (I was paying by the hour so no problem on incentive) - took a lot of ressources, and considering only 5 or 6 people would pay a 15$ fee a month, wasnt worth my time in the end.

Hi all,

I have a question...

When i look to my stats on CB on campaign i see a lot of hits on "default". I wonder where these are comming from because all my sites/banners etc are linking to one of the whitelabels.

Can someone explain where these hits come from?

https://i.imgur.com/P26mG9H.jpg

see default in your tracking code e.g. track=default you can change the word default to whatever you want to track your links :thumbsup
https://chaturbate.com/in/?tour=goZq...&track=default

Thanks, i already thought about that.

I use 2 scripts, one off them is Robo (still works fine) and in Robo i have set the tracking code. on the same site i get hits under the traking code, but in one off the files, online_1.xml it's generating default, so i don't understand where that's comming from.

Thanks! Does the site only track from when you start using it, or does it backdate my stats?

I have like 1500 hits daily with around 200 people signing monthly.

To be honest I don't push it that much as the spending on the WL isn't identical to the spending of the people I have referred to the website itself (Using the aff links)