What is the other non robo one you use please?

Robo is great. But will break one day :Oh crap

I dont know if you guys are aware, I guess no because I see many big websites using this embed cam only ad and if you look you can see that the campaign id tag is present in their code but when you click on the iframe you are send to chaturbate.com without any tag/param campaign, which mean that if you dont send on your whitelabel you are sending traffic for free.

https://imgur.com/a/GK1y2lc
https://i.imgur.com/DQmglrv.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Or4suh0.jpg


I am talking about the Embed Cam > Cam Only, you can check by yourself here https://chaturbate.com/affiliates/pr...e_embed_video/

The second script is WP Chaturbate from former Sexplugins, and is also still working fine.
But also in this script i set the tracking name. From both scripts i also get different numbers on "tracking code" and "campaign".

I am sure that on every site i have the tracking code is set.

I use these all over my biggest site. It's a tube site, and they live on the video view page (thousands of the same page). These iframes are earning sales with the two tracking codes (I use two small embed cam only windows on top of each other). The user can click anywhere in the window. However the very issue you bring up is concerning, and I have had some real disparities with the traffic in my stats and the sales that should be there. I'll get back to this in the thread at some point after more investigation.

I did bring this very issue up with Chatb support last year, pointing out that the code has the referrer ID but the URL doesn't. They claim that it's working fine - and well I do have sales for that traffic.

However I noticed I used the same code with a slight change on my front page - and a different tracking code - and NO SALES. the FRONT page. I get traffic. I compared and made a change. If that works I'll report back.

Furthermore - I also use the interactive embed code iframe- and while you can't click the cam screen - it gets the most sales out of any of the other ads. On the same video view page, this iframe lives on the bottom - and it has a different tracking code and NO SALES. But the traffic numbers are almost as high to the iframes that get SALES - that is the same iframe type (interactive) which appears on the other main pages but less trafficked like Categories, Users, Search.

That is to say the page (video view) where the users are on the longest and the most - is sending about the about 2/3 of traffic - as the other 5 or so pages combined with the same iframe. Here are the stats:

My YTD sales between these two tracking codes

• Tracking Raw Unique Sales Payout
• embed 7283351 4437477 $47923.48 $9584.70
• oldembed 4275758 2632794 $401.95 $80.39
  
• By comparison a fairly low traffic site - I use the same interactive iframe :
• embedagr 33293 22259 $339.93 $67.99

embed= the interactive iframe on most pages
oldembed = the video view page with same iframe

Needless to say I compared some more and made some changes to the iframe with no sales. There's really only one little code difference I found.

If this changes I'll report back

So a little update...

Chaturbate is really funny...

I send an email with 24 accounts to take a look at...

I receive an answer 14 days later saying 2 account have created new ID`s and now they are returned under my aff ID.

2 days later I receive another email claiming 3 accounts have created new ID`s and now they are under my aff ID.

My two biggest spenders are gone (in a matter of like 30 days) and I wanted a separate check up on them, because I know their username on some websites and see they are still active daily so I doubt they stopped spending at the same time, still waiting for an answer about them

I'm curious about how to know the spenders username, because in Cb stats we can see only the User ID, User UID and the Country ?!?
Any trick to have that information, cause I also wanted to know the username of my biggest spenders ?

I literally sent CB support 16 spenders to look to see if they had signed up under a new account. Just heard back and they reinstated 6 big spenders! Not only that they added a significant amount to my payout! Been with CB 12 years this is the best adult affiliate company in my opinion. So this is a shout out to CB Thank You so much!! Siteman.

You sent them a list of 16 spenders and they gave you back 6, ok it sound nice but you probably lost hundred of small spenders that you never noticed and its even possible that some of them became a whale.

I dont think calling them "the best adult affiliate company" is helping us as affiliates.

AT this point promoting Chaturbate is useless, what the point of lifetime rev share, if they keep stealing your spenders.

Stripcash is far better.

What is the best way to promote Stripchat/Stripcash?

Thats what we call CPM !


What makes you think they won't run away with your spenders as soon
as they have most of them?

Greetings Beaver

They found that only 6 had signed under another subscriber out of the 16. This is my opinion. I have had great results with CB and CB Support.

do u know by using that plugin u send an amount of traffic to his ref code? he makes money with your traffic. fuck that plugin and remove it.

yup, they are the best in your opinion. having to contact them every time you feel a model steal from you doesn't sound like the best for me.

if you look at this thread, I think this is the worst company in the industry, there was no cam program with so many complaints, at least since 2007 when I started promoting cams.

I don't send a single hit to his ref code, i replaced his ref code for mine and made more modifications :thumbsup

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Thnx! It really works good, there are only 2 thing that i am trying to accomplish but not getting to work yet. I want a "age" selector and a "load more" button instead of the pager.
Tried different options but not working :(

I got my lost spender response in a few days, including over the long weekend.
that's the only good news.

"After reviewing the accounts you’ve highlighted, we’ve been able to determine that 1 of these users created a new account under a different referral URL."

I had sent 16 User IDs - all unspent from 100-400 days out - total rev from each ranged from $300-$8000

Total adjustment? $4.20

The universe is laughing at me. And smoking a joint. And blowing the smoke in my face.

I'm sooooo fucking disappointed.

A couple years ago I was averaging around $6000/month

Here's this period's 2 wk stats $1956.15
https://imgur.com/9TvKb5V

and stats from about a year ago $3191.04 (2 wks)
https://imgur.com/gaMY9EC

And two years ago looked more like this
https://imgur.com/MC4LpFX $3577.92 (2 wks)

Been an affiliate for - idk maybe a decade. I'm going to meticulously send them over every yellow or red User ID that I haven't sent already. I expect about $nothing but I'll do it anyhow.

same here

im a larger affiliate than you and there's been a huge drop off since last may and it's continuing on a downwards trend - very similar to the trend that you're reporting so about earning half as much as I have in the X amount of previous years

our large spenders just leaving with no trace

i understand a lot has changed post pandemic but still very difficult to adjust

just glad i decided to diversify with other programs as it's alleviating the blow a bit

Yeah, this is happening to too many affiliates for it to be a coincidence.

My other programs that I've been with for just as long are holding steady so something doesn't add up.

I started reading about affiliates experiencing this phenomenon since around that time, May-Sept 2022. Newbs, veterans, it didn't matter.

Again, can't be a coincidence and can't just be post pandemic or else every other program would have a similar effect.

oh boy here again with some shady conspiracies.

Bill, it doesn't help that you say things like this. I didn't say that CB was conspiring against affiliates, or that they were somehow cheating us, or that there is something sinister going on.

I am merely pointing out that many of us are experiencing something similar that is negative, that started around the same time, that we are not experiencing with other programs, and that something if off.

The fact that you and a few others call us whiners or crazy doesn't help any. It doesn't validate that something is indeed off and it can't all be coincidence. You offer no other "solid" explanation, except to try to argue back and tell us we don't have enough stats (even if some of us use the tool) or that we don't make enough money monthly to make these claims (even when some of us do).

Maybe, there is something going on that doesn't have to do with CB. Who knows. I can say there have been enough affiliates in this thread who have experienced losing many spenders only having to go through the annoying process of trying to get them back - which shouldn't have to happen. Maybe that's what's going on, or maybe that isn't a big factor at all.

Something is going on for many affiliates that shouldn't. What you should be saying here is, "Hmm. For this many affiliates to come forward with their stats and support stories and decreasing earnings that started at the same time, is concerning. Maybe some are whining, but there have been enough who post with similarities that can't be ignored. It is of concern and I don't know what can be causing it. I know I'm making bank with CB and I am interested in this because I don't want whatever anomaly is happening to them to happen to me too. I will continue to call out those who I feel have no grounds to complain like newbs etc, but will at least listen and converse with those who do."

...

May was a good month here.

Well said, +1

Well that's where you are probably wrong. About 10 people complained overall over the year. 10 people. I trust CB has over 10,000 active affiliates if not more. Go to The other forums specialized (AmberCutie forums for example). There is no consensus, no complaints.

I feel like we're an echo chamber of people making $500 / month for 2 years straight and then having 2 spenders stopping spending and all of a suden "something must be wrong".

So far I have seen stats of ONE unique person that was gaining >$5000 per month constantly and had a huge drop. That is problematic, yet it doesnt mean there is a problem with CB.

For each person complaining I can probably find 20 person that had no problems.


Now I'm all ears. let people come to me with graphs, and I'll be glad to say I'm wrong. But so far, it's a only few anonymous people making less than a salary per month in CB stats.

NOBODY posted a screenshot of their chart going downhill, NOBODY. So why should we take such problem "seriously?"


EDIT: I tried to engage with everyone who said had a problem. They couldnt share any details. Thats BS.

I worked in the restaurant industry and the corporate big shots would always be asking about complaints. They would tell me that for each complaint, there were 50 that would never say anything so they gathered all the complaints up and asked us waiters as well.

So I'm sure your number above is also true. 20, or 50, who knows but I don't mean again to say there is a huge problem and that most/all affiliates are being affected. I imagine if most were being affected the whole adult industry would be rocked - link buying, traffic buying, content, coding etc... everything to do with cams and specifically CB would be affected as resources that went into promoting CB would suddenly shift in a big way. I'm simply saying that there is something amiss and maybe it's worth taking seriously and not dismissing so easily.

I also see that you do engage and that people don't necessarily engage back so I understand why you would be skeptical.

This is my take from this thread as well.

Uh.... I just did a few posts ago. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy though it is disappointing that most of my biggest spenders have dropped off suddenly. I checked with CB and they found only one that was taken away from me.

That's where I was during the pandemic
2020/2021 at least $5000/month on average. Some months were like $7000+
Before and since are about $1800-$2400/month
Pandemic over, stimulus money gone, less free time/less working from home, etc
Although in 2019 my numbers were around 3500/4000/month, no pandemic then.

Is the pandemic the sole reason for those high numbers and then a huge drop? I mean so many people were suddenly out a job. Unemployment money? Stimulus money wasn't really that much money...

I haven't tried a different cam affiliate (I'm about to add a new one into the mix).

Thanks for your stats tool, it's illuminating.

For many people in adult and mainstream, 2020-2021 was a massive boom that many people haven't seen in years. If you didn't capitalize on that to grow and stabilize your business, that's on you.

I had to work 70% less so that I could take care of my kids who had a hard time with virtual learning + help them with the despair they felt.

But what would be your answer to the poster's question above?

Is the pandemic to blame? Why did he have good stats in 2019? I understand everyone was online in 2020/2021 to fuel the boom. But why are things worse now for him (and us) than in 2019?

Or if it's not the pandemic, what's the cause of the decline? I'm curious, not trying to fight.

I'm confused at that poster as he first said "before and since are 1800-2400", implying that his stats were lower in 2019. He then says he made 3500 in 2019.

To be honest the difference between 1800 and 2400 and 3500 monthly is close to nothing in the grand scheme. That $20-60 per day is such a small sample size, at these traffic volumes you are at the whim of whatever mood your handful of spenders are in that day/week/month.

If you ask me what the cause of the decline is, without knowing everyone's business model, I would say it is relying on outdated strategies like creating a randomwebcamwhitelabel.com and buying a handful of links to it and hoping for some lucky scraps from google off of page 37 on a random keyword.

My biggest problem with most people in this thread (and the standard beer-money hobbyist GFYer in general) is they tend to throw some random shit at the wall sometimes, refresh stats, and pray for the best, without having any way to scale or reproduce results.

If you don't know what your cost to acquire a customer is, you don't actually have a business.

I'm doing just fine and have my plans for growth in the works. CB isn't my only revenue stream (it's got the majority yes), and my business isn't my only source of income (has the majority there as well).

Capitalize on what exactly - users throwing their free money away and then running out of money?

Sorry, I meant up to 2018 and around 2022 til now I had those lower numbers.

2019 was a better year than those.

Ok fair. but I was making 200-300% more during the pandemic so I'm adjusting to that.

EDIT: Actually more than that. My comparison was between the pandemic earnings vs the rest. So 5000-7000/month is a big difference to 1800-2400-3500. It is to me.
I added in the 2019 average just to point out that year was better (may seem like chump change to you, but it was better) - and I was a bit conservative - it was hitting close to $4000 most months for that year.

Dude I get more than beer money traffic. I've never bought a link (I do SELL hard links - and those have also slowed down a bit) I'm #1 keywords for my niche tube site. I know tube sites don't convert great - but against those odds I still make a living thanks to Chatb and other ads. And now I'm putting the time in for growth (premium membership which for reasons not important was impossible before)

There's some good advice in this thread, and I'm heeding it. I never even used a whitelabel until a week ago. And I still did okay. My main website in the early 2000s was fairly different and I made a lot more back then (and paid a lot more taxes). When that was drying up I switched tactics and it took a few years for the tube site to become profitable, but it is now.

I'm sure I don't have your numbers, but I'm doing alright.

Hey sorry, I'm just ranting at the general attitude I see on GFY as a whole, and responding to mopek1's downer attitude.

Didn't mean to single you out beyond the pandemic boost which was temporary and to me was an opportunity to double down, expand, and start new shit.

No worries man, I appreciate advice - and generally went my own way for 20 years (the beginning took off so fast that I kinda stayed in my own world).

Didn't mean to rant back lol - just some venting.

You're right - I used my pandemic time for my other career. But better late than never.

Welcome to GFY. :thumbsup

You didn't message me, although I wasn't asking for extra help beyond the cb stats tool. Just clarifying. I already shared stats and I have more I could post. But I'm not trying to prove a problem, I'm planning on mo better revenue. I'll see how things go and report back in a month

I felt I was trying to get a serious discussion going with you and Bill. True, I was feeling down about the stats issue, but still, trying to get answers and open to being wrong.

Muse, Check your Chaturbate sig, it goes to HTTP 404 - Page Not Found
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