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sarettah 01-01-2023 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PretjeNL (Post 23079416)
I have thinking before on something like that, but until now not tried to use.

On one of my sites i had 4 embeded cams trough the Iframe, but every time someone went to that site the 4 cams counted as a hit.

Is it with the DIV also counting as a hit?

yep, the iframe counts as a hit and a click through counts as a hit.

i do several things

1. i send all my click throughs through a script that writes the hit to the database so i can keep track of actual click throughs

2. i use a distinct tracking code on each iframe and on each click through so i can keep track in cb's stats

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sarettah 01-01-2023 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike9 (Post 23079350)
True, which is why I haven't used it before. I could tell my best referral to try it out, though, it has 5 figure signups. But what's the advantage of someone using that tool?

i do not use it but the idea is that you can take a look at your revshare stats (from the csv export) in a formatted, summarized manner so you can see each user and how much they have spent total, that sort of thing

i have my own solution that i use

let's me look at the data like this

https://madspiders.com/images/cb2022.jpg

https://madspiders.com/images/cb20221.png
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ianmoone332000 01-01-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sinmedia (Post 23078847)
I did exactly the same thing and got 2 whales back to my account along with the explanation that models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore. But this doesn't stop them to use boyfriend/pimp/another account's aff id on their profiles.
The only way to fix this is to report the models, at least the popular ones.

Models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore?. Sorry if this has been posted before and i missed it. When did it happen etc?. Can only be a good thing

sarettah 01-01-2023 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 23079466)
Models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore?. Sorry if this has been posted before and i missed it. When did it happen etc?. Can only be a good thing

i had not heard that until it was posted here either

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dUbster 01-01-2023 09:10 AM

It would be nice if we can get that confirmed by chaturbate support

Cyrano 01-01-2023 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 23078884)
:thumbsup




Thanks both for the feedback.

I have tried WL before when I was looking to solve the ad blocker problem. I switched back to cb because my wl doesn't convert well. I assume because of the domain name and/or design. Given the issue with 3rd party cookies, it looks like it is the way to go though.

Generally speaking, my conversion rate has plummeted while I am still doing good with other programs further illustrating the issue described above. I am wondering if it is worth the effort. That's another discussion.

I use a WL for this reason and chose a generic sounding subdomain, instead of my own domain, with a design that's identical to Chaturbate (whitelabel.chaturbate.com). Works quite well.

ianmoone332000 01-01-2023 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23079474)
i had not heard that until it was posted here either

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Would be a bonus if true

Speigelau 01-01-2023 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23079474)
i had not heard that until it was posted here either

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Over the last 6 months I've seen a dramatic reduction in models posting affiliate links in their bio, so I figured something had been implemented. I still see a few of the "sign up here free" images, if the rule is confirmed then it would be easy to report them.

GoCastaway 01-02-2023 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 23079695)
Over the last 6 months I've seen a dramatic reduction in models posting affiliate links in their bio, so I figured something had been implemented. I still see a few of the "sign up here free" images, if the rule is confirmed then it would be easy to report them.

It's about time that CB is setting rules about links. In my opinion they should forbid all links that go out from CB, because the warning that you get if you click a link in a bio, that you are going to another site in x seconds is bullshit.

ianmoone332000 01-02-2023 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23079813)
It's about time that CB is setting rules about links. In my opinion they should forbid all links that go out from CB, because the warning that you get if you click a link in a bio, that you are going to another site in x seconds is bullshit.

Here here. Why in gods name they allow links to Onlyfans etc boggles the mind. Lets send our customers over to a similar niche competitor so they profit and we dont. I think there is more behind the scenes with that one

sarettah 01-02-2023 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 23079860)
Here here. Why in gods name they allow links to Onlyfans etc boggles the mind. Lets send our customers over to a similar niche competitor so they profit and we dont. I think there is more behind the scenes with that one

i do not like the outgoing links or the advertising of other sites in the cam rooms

however, i think that that freedom is what keeps a lot of models on chaturbate

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drexl 01-02-2023 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 23079466)
Models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore?. Sorry if this has been posted before and i missed it. When did it happen etc?. Can only be a good thing

I didn't see anything in the terms that says anything like that, on the contrary : "Registered users of the Platform may be eligible to participate in our affiliate advertising program"

From that I understand that webmasters, broadcasters & simple users with a username are all affiliates. The terms have last been updated in August 2022, so nothing has changed in the past 6 months.

Models also have separate terms called "broadcaster agreement"
Note : that is where they agree to grant some rights to cb which in turn grant us a non exclusive licence to use the promo tools.

Speaking of the terms, models aren't allowed to promote onlyfans, fansly, manyvids etc ...
From the terms : "you may not use the Platform to promote or advertise any third-party products, sites, or services that deliver live-streaming content."


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Originally Posted by Cyrano (Post 23079574)
I use a WL for this reason and chose a generic sounding subdomain, instead of my own domain, with a design that's identical to Chaturbate (whitelabel.chaturbate.com). Works quite well.

That's interesting. Does that mean you are allowed to use the cb logo if you are on a subdomain?

GoCastaway 01-02-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 23079890)
Speaking of the terms, models aren't allowed to promote onlyfans, fansly, manyvids etc ...
From the terms : "you may not use the Platform to promote or advertise any third-party products, sites, or services that deliver live-streaming content."

So, CB doesn't give a shit about that links, or they have shares in Onlyfans etc...

sarettah 01-02-2023 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23079942)
So, CB doesn't give a shit about that links, or they have shares in Onlyfans etc...

or they are willing to let it go unless it gets obnoxious, who knows?

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GoCastaway 01-02-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23079949)
or they are willing to let it go unless it gets obnoxious, who knows?

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That's the BIG question... And i think we will never get that clear.

sinmedia 01-02-2023 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 23079466)
Models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore?. Sorry if this has been posted before and i missed it. When did it happen etc?. Can only be a good thing

https://i.imgur.com/mdkL2QE.jpg

To the best of my knowledge, a few months.

ianmoone332000 01-02-2023 03:16 PM

Cheers Sin. Wonder if that means its closed for just studios or all models?. Either way its a step in the right direction for us

ianmoone332000 01-02-2023 03:27 PM

Ignore double post

sinmedia 01-02-2023 04:12 PM

Was thinking about that after i posted. I have to check a normal model account.

Speigelau 01-02-2023 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23079813)
It's about time that CB is setting rules about links. In my opinion they should forbid all links that go out from CB, because the warning that you get if you click a link in a bio, that you are going to another site in x seconds is bullshit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 23079860)
Here here. Why in gods name they allow links to Onlyfans etc boggles the mind. Lets send our customers over to a similar niche competitor so they profit and we dont. I think there is more behind the scenes with that one

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23079861)
i do not like the outgoing links or the advertising of other sites in the cam rooms

however, i think that that freedom is what keeps a lot of models on chaturbate

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Agree with all of these, I've been saying for years that CB should not allow promotion of other programs within their bio, same as most other cam programs. However, I think sarettah is right, they wanted to attract models to their platform who wanted to promote their own site or OF page and this helped them grow their model base.

There is no way to know what the impact was, but I have to believe there was some level of negative impact on revenue to CB as more and more customers spent on camgirls' OF pages instead of CB.

GoCastaway 01-03-2023 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 23080132)
I've been saying for years that CB should not allow promotion of other programs within their bio, same as most other cam programs.

Me too, at other programs the performers can do nothing with links out of the program.

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There is no way to know what the impact was, but I have to believe there was some level of negative impact on revenue to CB as more and more customers spent on camgirls' OF pages instead of CB.
We lost a lot on OF

ianmoone332000 01-03-2023 06:36 AM

Anyone think we will get money into Paxum this week because of holiday delays?

ianmoone332000 01-03-2023 06:38 AM

Anyone think we will get money into Paxum this week due to the holidays?

ianmoone332000 01-04-2023 06:41 AM

Stupid double post. Anyone paid yet?

zhenyoung 01-04-2023 07:02 AM

NO paid yet [paxum]

LustCore 01-04-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 23080218)

We lost a lot on OF

This is a fact for quite a while, sadly.

I recall that I saw on CB or perhaps on a competition that models are not allowed to promote other sites, yet many of them are doing so despite of this rule. Likely that CB and the likes have a blind eye over this due to the revenue that each model can still generate for them. But if this is the case, then why are we not getting paid?
My explanation would be that they are directing new registrations under our aff to their own aff/friends aff link or that CB is not completely honest about the numbers due to whatever reason. Or the combination of both.

sarettah 01-04-2023 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 23080622)
Stupid double post. Anyone paid yet?

Got the note yesterday that it's on its way - ach

Monday was a holiday here in the us so yesterday was the first day back

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gar 01-04-2023 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by zhenyoung (Post 23080630)
NO paid yet [paxum]

Same, holiday I guess

sarettah 01-04-2023 09:12 AM

and ACH is in my bank today

that was quick, usually takes a couple of days

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GoCastaway 01-04-2023 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LustCore (Post 23080628)
My explanation would be that they are directing new registrations under our aff to their own aff/friends aff link or that CB is not completely honest about the numbers due to whatever reason. Or the combination of both.

Both possible, about CB i wrote a while back already something. For hours not a single hit, and then suddenly in 10 minutes a big wave of hits...

drexl 01-04-2023 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 23080622)
Stupid double post. Anyone paid yet?

Paid :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by LustCore (Post 23080628)
I recall that I saw on CB or perhaps on a competition that models are not allowed to promote other sites

That's what I said just right above quoting the cb terms & conditions :upsidedow

TurboB 01-04-2023 03:21 PM

Paxum payment arrived.

sarettah 01-04-2023 03:40 PM

i guess that's the end of Chaturbate payment panic for this last pay period

please join us on the 15th of January 2023 for our next episode where we wonder "will we get paid this period" after having been paid on time for (for me) at least 8 years, but you never know, this one might be the one they miss

don't miss it

be there or be square


https://madspiders.com/images/batman-robin.gif

PretjeNL 01-04-2023 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23080818)
i guess that's the end of Chaturbate payment panic for this last pay period

please join us on the 15th of January 2023 for our next episode where we wonder "will we get paid this period" after having been paid on time for (for me) at least 8 years, but you never know, this one might be the one they miss

don't miss it

be there or be square

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup:thumbsup

gar 01-05-2023 12:57 AM

This is my first first quarter for me. Jan-Feb is just normal months for you guys? Or people spend less after long holiday?

dUbster 01-05-2023 01:57 AM

I think during the Holiday season people are spending less on porn because of having to spend money on gifts, etc

drexl 01-05-2023 04:23 AM

Here are my stats for cb and 2 other cam affiliate programs for a sample period december 20 to january 5:

cb
unique views: 52649
join: 8
new spender: 0

affiliate program A
unique views: 4379
join: 48
new spender: 11

affiliate program B
unique views: 93610
join: 39
new spender: 3

My traffic converts but I find it hard to get signups with cb, does anyone have observed the same pattern or have an explanation? The period is not the pb, the pattern is the same for other periods (different dates or longer timeframes)



Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23080818)
i guess that's the end of Chaturbate payment panic for this last pay period

please join us on the 15th of January 2023 for our next episode where we wonder "will we get paid this period" after having been paid on time for (for me) at least 8 years, but you never know, this one might be the one they miss

don't miss it

be there or be square

:1orglaugh

mopek1 01-05-2023 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 23080997)
Here are my stats for cb and 2 other cam affiliate programs for a sample period december 20 to january 5:

cb
unique views: 52649
join: 8
new spender: 0

affiliate program A
unique views: 4379
join: 48
new spender: 11

affiliate program B
unique views: 93610
join: 39
new spender: 3

My traffic converts but I find it hard to get signups with cb, does anyone have observed the same pattern or have an explanation? The period is not the pb, the pattern is the same for other periods (different dates or longer timeframes)




:1orglaugh

Thanks for posting your stats. I push mostly paysites and dating and don't have enough cam volume to be able to split my traffic up onto different cam sites. I should try others though.

My question to you is, is the traffic the same source for CB as it is for those other programs?

drexl 01-05-2023 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23081008)
Thanks for posting your stats. I push mostly paysites and dating and don't have enough cam volume to be able to split my traffic up onto different cam sites. I should try others though.

My question to you is, is the traffic the same source for CB as it is for those other programs?

Identical source. If others come to the same conclusion then it might be an issue with the join page (too many steps). If not then I am puzzled.

ianmoone332000 01-05-2023 08:21 AM

Couldn't tell you the last time i had a signup but its been a while. Somethings up


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