I'm still using roboscripts with one of my sites, I know that it can break at any time. Installing a cache plugin won't fuck the script up, will it?

scary numbers in there.

wow, sad numbers. what happen to the good old days.

Sky high inflation. Christmas time. Stock markets tumbling. High energy prices in Europe. A war in Ukraine. Rising interest rates. Possible recession

Pick one

I remember people saying " what happened to good old days " from 2010 onwards. Hindsight is great

Let's hope next year is better for economy

You're post inspired me to submit 6 of my biggest spenders id's as a test, a couple of them have been missing in action for over 2 years and Chaturbate just emailed to inform me 4 of the 6 users created new accounts under a different referral URL.

I won't go into details about how much they credited to my account but it's a substantial amount. It's no wonder my monthly earnings have looked like shit the past couple of years. Now I need to go down a long list and submit more id's.

congrats. did you use cb-stats to find your users?

Would CB support reply if I sent a list of 10s of thousands of subscribers and see if any made new accounts, or do I have to do some of the work, too?.. :upsidedow
Still looking about normal on my end, too.

I think tens of thousands may be asking them to do a bit too much work :D

Thanks mate.

I did indeed use cb-stats.com which was very helpful in allowing me to see who my biggest spenders were and how long they've been AWOL.

I'm wondering if anyone can help

Just realised that the www version and non www version are indexed in Google webmaster tools. Usually with cl whitelabels the www version but a lot of my backlinks point to the non www.

Any advice? Obviously being a white label I can't set a canonical and I'm using cloudflare and it looks like 301 redirects are setup properly

Typing in http://domain redirects to https://www.domain so that looks okay but then why is Google indexing both?

https://httpstatus.io/

I'd first check if your redirects are actually correct.

Hmm it's showing two redirects

So a 301 from http to HTTPS://domain and then another to HTTPS://www.domain

Would a page rule bypassing that help?

Just enter the naked domain name in the tool. So, domain.com
Check the canonical box.

You should see 4 results, typically. Three of the results will show 2 status codes, 301 and 200. The version of the domain you are redirecting other versions to will have a single status code of 200.

You should be 301 redirecting similar to this:
You don't want 2 redirect chains like you suggested.

Yeah only one of my white labels had 2 chains. The others were fine. I have backlinks pointing to http://domain rather than HTTPS://www.domain

Could that be the reason? I really can't think of anything else

Some of you have noticed a gradual loss in revenue. I don't think cb is at fault.

It is possible that browsers disabling third party cookies is the main cause. If you use the embed cam tool, you know that it plants a 3rd party cookie so that when the visitor clicks on it you get credit for bringing a new user to the system. With browsers such as Firefox or Safari third party cookies are blocked by default.

This comes as a problem in addition to the raising number of ad blocking tools. The immediate effect is a loss in counted traffic followed by less signups, and finally less $$ overtime.

Other affiliate programs which don't use third party cookies aren't affected. Most of them plant a cookie after the user clicks on the promo tool. CB popups wouldn't be affected by the cookie restriction either.

I may be wrong but I believe this is a fair assumption.

One partial fix to this would be to change the clickthrough link of the embed cam tool to include the affiliate cookie. Any thoughts?

That's also a point. For 2 weeks i use Ublock Origin in Chrome, i have a tube site with 5 banners to 5 of my cam sites, and i noticed that this adblocker is blocking 2 of the 5 banners.

Everyone using an Apple device has third party cookies blocked and any other identifying information removed by their Private Relay. This has been for about a year and a half now.

I cannot check my stats until I verify my ID again :mad:

A solution would be to use a whitelabel. It is unlikely that ad blockers have your domain listed.

Do you agree changing the click through would be helpful? Right now the iframe is planting a 3rd party cookie (which is blocked as dicussed) and the click through doesn't include an affiliate code, it is something like: chaturbate.com/modelusername

Just use your whitelabel as the embed url. Yes, it's still a 3rd party cookie, but the click-through would go to your whitelabel.

Absolutely. I would even support the idea that a tracking link would take priority over other methods as the transaction is done. This will never happen as the current system favors the house so much. The only solution I have found is to have a WL as an endpoint, otherwise it's likely you won't get credit for your sales.

That's what i do, if they click on a cam on one of the Robo sites they go direct to the cam on the whitelabels.

I did exactly the same thing and got 2 whales back to my account along with the explanation that models are not allowed to be affiliates anymore. But this doesn't stop them to use boyfriend/pimp/another account's aff id on their profiles.
The only way to fix this is to report the models, at least the popular ones.

:thumbsup


Thanks both for the feedback.

I have tried WL before when I was looking to solve the ad blocker problem. I switched back to cb because my wl doesn't convert well. I assume because of the domain name and/or design. Given the issue with 3rd party cookies, it looks like it is the way to go though.

Generally speaking, my conversion rate has plummeted while I am still doing good with other programs further illustrating the issue described above. I am wondering if it is worth the effort. That's another discussion.

What if you try a WL, but make it look as much like Chaturbate as you can, the only difference being a domain like chaturbatehd.com or chaturbatefree.com, or even a CB subdomain, that way you'll most likely drop the cookie vs using your regular CB links and it'll look more legit than some random "brand" someone came up with in 4 minutes.
Is that allowed?

Surfer hesitancy with White Labels is a big problem. Everything has to be top notch to get a sign up.

I have been pretty lucky with being able to maintain an average this year, but the effort and traffic needed to do so is getting to be impossible. If I look at my average as compared to traffic then I am way way down. As well the passive "fire and forget" aspect is falling apart as it takes a lot more hands on effort to keep it going. I know my situation now wont last and I am simplifying my hosting and costs with the thought that this is the last year.

And all of the spenders who do show money seem to disappear very quickly and I am left with six guys spending $10 between them. I haven't done an email to Chaturbate about spenders yet but I am composing it now.

If you have anything else that looks good PM me and I will sign up under you.

Really? Damn, my accounts get about 50-60k/month in spending still and it only gets like 15-30 signups/day.

Maybe it's the competition?

With CB subdomains if the surfer is already cookied by another affiliate then who gets the sale? I don't know, but I am assuming it's the first cookie.

What I do is wrap the whitelabel embed in a div and then have a url for the entire div that takes them to chaturbate when they click in

<a href=url_i_want_to_send_to>
<div>
<iframe></iframe>
</div>
</a>

this is the code i use for the floating embeds that i use on camfoxes


This is what I mean by the floating embeds

https://madspiders.com/images/camfoxes.gif

have been using this schema for years now without issue

please don't tell anybody, cause it's a secret

.

If you use Chaturbate in your domain name will you get banned?

TOS says you will, but not sure if they do ban?

No, if you don't ignore them when they ask to transfer a domain to them.

I don't think you can do that : brand names are forbidden in domain names and keywords. Some webmasters get fooled because "it works". The thing is sooner or later you will lose your domain, at a very minimum. Look and feel could also be a problem as it can be registered as part of the trademark.

Not trying to be a smart ass, just explaining why I am not going down this road.


In line with the above discussion : are you using cb or a whitelabel? I find it hard to convert with the third party cookie block.

Are you in Bill's top 10 (on cb-stats.com) ? 50k is :thumbsup:thumbsup

I have asked the question before and this might have changed but I was told that subdomain cookies were specific, so if a user is first cookied on xxxx.chaturbate.com and then goes to chaturbate.com he has 2 separate cookies. On a single domain, first cookie wins though.

I'm gonna try that :thumbsup :thumbsup

On cam pages, the links are regular CB revshare ref links, the iframes themselves use a WL.
That's as much as I'm ever going to say about it publicly, though.

It might be in the top 10, I've never used that site before. :upsidedow
It was doing a bit better than 50k/month a few months ago, too, more like 100k+, but it's been going up and down for a while.

you are referring to your webmaster referrals, aren't you? that is what you told me you were getting from chaturbate

because 50k per month in sales is 10k a month in income

.

Time for me to submit some of my disappearing spenders to chaturbate

How many is an okay amount before it looks like too much work for them. 5-10?

Right. My cut is less.
I did do a bit of the work years ago for the biggest referral, though.. Long story.
My sig isn't to brag, I just want more referrals..

Then Bill's tool would probably not show you much as it is based on the .csv export form chaturbate that shows your revshare users. It doesn't show your referrals.

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True, which is why I haven't used it before. I could tell my best referral to try it out, though, it has 5 figure signups. But what's the advantage of someone using that tool?

Don't use a name similar to a Trademarked name.
Trademark Dilution, https://www.justia.com/intellectual-...mark-dilution/

I have thinking before on something like that, but until now not tried to use.

On one of my sites i had 4 embeded cams trough the Iframe, but every time someone went to that site the 4 cams counted as a hit.

Is it with the DIV also counting as a hit?