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OneMillionGirls 10-07-2019 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22538226)
I very much appreciate the kind word! It was a pleasure working with affiliates like yourself.

Unfortunately my last day at CB was yesterday. Best of luck to you all :thumbsup

ohhh nahhhh :/

You helped me a lot of in past. I wish you all the best and stay healthy.

You are a great guy

bill_musk 10-07-2019 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 22539957)
young adults don't spend with porn.... they were raised in a world with free tubes, "TINDER" .... why spend with porn, cams and so on?

My opinion differ. They're more easy on spending online versus our elders.

Beaver1 10-09-2019 06:12 AM

Why the hell did they cover the signup button with outgoing links?

https://en.chaturbate.com/_goalexgo_/

anexsia 10-11-2019 03:53 AM

So I plan on trying my luck with promoting cams soon, is Chaturbate still decent to promote (revshare) or is there another company I should be looking at?

AzteK 10-11-2019 12:12 PM

How are the free signups for everyone today?

sarettah 10-11-2019 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzteK (Post 22542519)
How are the free signups for everyone today?

Sucking balls.

.

AzteK 10-11-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22542565)
Sucking balls.

.

yes it's exceptionally low today, we'll see how it ends later

Holy Damage 10-11-2019 02:27 PM

May, Sep and Oct being a nightmare to me

AmateurFlix 10-11-2019 06:01 PM

well, after reading this thread and seeing tayax's post I decided to develop some software to analyze the stats data provided; I'm not done yet, however from the info I've gotten so far, basically everything I had assumed was entirely wrong.

what really surprised me is that in the past ~2.5 years (all the stats data that I could download), customers who joined prior to that point 2.5 years ago, have generated nearly 50% more income than those who've joined since. Meaning that even over that 2.5 year span, my earnings were more about what I did prior to that, than they are about my current traffic.

Also, check out the vast difference between the median and the mean earnings per capita (these are different methods of calculating an "average"):
Median: $28.6
Mean: $305.03

now, at 98%, having removed the top 2% of spenders:
Median: $26.3
Mean: $172.39

and again at 95%:
Median: $25
Mean: $120.93

^^this demonstrates the difference whales can have on your overall income
When the average can change from $305 to $120 merely by removing the upper 5% of spenders, that is telling me that 1/20 of the customers are determining nearly 2/3 of my income from this sponsor.

I also averaged some Running Totals of earnings per customer, m+0 indicating earnings in the first month, m+1 earnings of the second month, etc., until it reaches "max" which is simply all earnings generated after m+6. We see the running total after 7 months is only $87.30, and that number is nearly doubled in the period after that. Keep in mind these customers may continue to buy in the future.

m+0: 29.72
m+1: 42.01
m+2: 51.54
m+3: 59.81
m+4: 69.43
m+5: 79.16
m+6: 87.3
max: 160.34

So, in conclusion, whales seem to have a much much much bigger effect on income than I expected; they don't merely provide a "bonus" as I assumed, rather they appear to be responsible for the majority of earnings. Meaning, one cannot expect any kind of income stability until there is a sufficient quantity of whales to even out the earnings - which in turn means that the level of income this threshold of stability corresponds with is likely quite high, unless you get lulled into a false sense of security by having one or two steady whales.

Also, earnings are spread out much more than I anticipated; that last data above shows only $29.72 earned in the first month after an initial purchase, of a total of $160.34 (and climbing).

Maybe that will help clear up some of the concern around income fluctuations.

bill_musk 10-11-2019 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 22542694)
well, after reading this thread and seeing tayax's post I decided to develop some software to analyze the stats data provided; I'm not done yet, however from the info I've gotten so far, basically everything I had assumed was entirely wrong.

what really surprised me is that in the past ~2.5 years (all the stats data that I could download), customers who joined prior to that point 2.5 years ago, have generated nearly 50% more income than those who've joined since. Meaning that even over that 2.5 year span, my earnings were more about what I did prior to that, than they are about my current traffic.

Also, check out the vast difference between the median and the mean earnings per capita (these are different methods of calculating an "average"):
Median: $28.6
Mean: $305.03

now, at 98%, having removed the top 2% of spenders:
Median: $26.3
Mean: $172.39

and again at 95%:
Median: $25
Mean: $120.93

^^this demonstrates the difference whales can have on your overall income
When the average can change from $305 to $120 merely by removing the upper 5% of spenders, that is telling me that 1/20 of the customers are determining nearly 2/3 of my income from this sponsor.

I also averaged some Running Totals of earnings per customer, m+0 indicating earnings in the first month, m+1 earnings of the second month, etc., until it reaches "max" which is simply all earnings generated after m+6. We see the running total after 7 months is only $87.30, and that number is nearly doubled in the period after that. Keep in mind these customers may continue to buy in the future.

m+0: 29.72
m+1: 42.01
m+2: 51.54
m+3: 59.81
m+4: 69.43
m+5: 79.16
m+6: 87.3
max: 160.34

So, in conclusion, whales seem to have a much much much bigger effect on income than I expected; they don't merely provide a "bonus" as I assumed, rather they appear to be responsible for the majority of earnings. Meaning, one cannot expect any kind of income stability until there is a sufficient quantity of whales to even out the earnings - which in turn means that the level of income this threshold of stability corresponds with is likely quite high, unless you get lulled into a false sense of security by having one or two steady whales.

Also, earnings are spread out much more than I anticipated; that last data above shows only $29.72 earned in the first month after an initial purchase, of a total of $160.34 (and climbing).

Maybe that will help clear up some of the concern around income fluctuations.

Interesting stats. How many spenders do you base your stats one?

AmateurFlix 10-11-2019 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tayax (Post 22542707)
Interesting stats. How many spenders do you base your stats one?

I can't give everything away :winkwink:
The user base should be sufficient to give meaningful data, I'll leave it at that.

xxify 10-11-2019 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 22542694)
well, after reading this thread and seeing tayax's post I decided to develop some software to analyze the stats data provided; I'm not done yet, however from the info I've gotten so far, basically everything I had assumed was entirely wrong.

what really surprised me is that in the past ~2.5 years (all the stats data that I could download), customers who joined prior to that point 2.5 years ago, have generated nearly 50% more income than those who've joined since. Meaning that even over that 2.5 year span, my earnings were more about what I did prior to that, than they are about my current traffic.

Also, check out the vast difference between the median and the mean earnings per capita (these are different methods of calculating an "average"):
Median: $28.6
Mean: $305.03

now, at 98%, having removed the top 2% of spenders:
Median: $26.3
Mean: $172.39

and again at 95%:
Median: $25
Mean: $120.93

^^this demonstrates the difference whales can have on your overall income
When the average can change from $305 to $120 merely by removing the upper 5% of spenders, that is telling me that 1/20 of the customers are determining nearly 2/3 of my income from this sponsor.

I also averaged some Running Totals of earnings per customer, m+0 indicating earnings in the first month, m+1 earnings of the second month, etc., until it reaches "max" which is simply all earnings generated after m+6. We see the running total after 7 months is only $87.30, and that number is nearly doubled in the period after that. Keep in mind these customers may continue to buy in the future.

m+0: 29.72
m+1: 42.01
m+2: 51.54
m+3: 59.81
m+4: 69.43
m+5: 79.16
m+6: 87.3
max: 160.34

So, in conclusion, whales seem to have a much much much bigger effect on income than I expected; they don't merely provide a "bonus" as I assumed, rather they appear to be responsible for the majority of earnings. Meaning, one cannot expect any kind of income stability until there is a sufficient quantity of whales to even out the earnings - which in turn means that the level of income this threshold of stability corresponds with is likely quite high, unless you get lulled into a false sense of security by having one or two steady whales.

Also, earnings are spread out much more than I anticipated; that last data above shows only $29.72 earned in the first month after an initial purchase, of a total of $160.34 (and climbing).

Maybe that will help clear up some of the concern around income fluctuations.

Thank you for sharing, very interesting! :thumbsup

drexl 10-12-2019 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzteK (Post 22542519)
How are the free signups for everyone today?

my free signups are rock bottom for a while now on both cb and my whitelabel using same traffic.

drexl 10-12-2019 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cezar78 (Post 22538101)
I wonder why i can't get signups from big porn sites (porn upload method). I get clicks, but no signups. Chaturbate's cookies don't overwrite and i think big porn sites are stuffing cookies. Even if people visit my domain, they already have cb cookie from cookie stuffing so i don't get signups. What do you think about this theory?

Yes I think the same. Some unscrupulous advertising networks do this too: I came across an ad network that was stuffing its own cb cookie. I noticed that and asked their support why so many "ads" showed up in the ad slots I had set up with them and they replied that when there was no inventory, they were showing default ads (which "coincidently" were cb cookie stuffing...). Oh and the ad slots were 300x250.

Imagine the reach they get not to mention that they potentially override your own cookies on your own site.

Shoplifter 10-12-2019 01:39 PM

Nothing good happening relative to last year or recent periods. I'm quite surprised the October is down.

Did anyone notice any changes after Oct 3 when Steve announced his last day?

GoCastaway 10-12-2019 02:43 PM

Everything is down at the moment, hits, sign ups, revenue...

Drew Peacock 10-12-2019 06:49 PM

I've noticed a huge nosedive in the past week and a half!! Spending and new users are way down, traffic is up. All the support ticket replies that I'm receiving are from someone who obviously is not versed in affiliate marketing in the least!!

heiko0o 10-12-2019 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22542910)
Nothing good happening relative to last year or recent periods. I'm quite surprised the October is down.

Did anyone notice any changes after Oct 3 when Steve announced his last day?

Oddly enough, yes, Revenue has been down since Oct. 3 and only once reached xxx$ per day since Oct 3rd.

Signups dropped about 50% as well, while revenue is being generated but it also dropped to about -80% of what i usually generated per day.

bjf552 10-13-2019 12:00 AM

chaturbate shaves, i'm making more money with dating in a week than i ever made with cb in a month. Yes...dating.

bill_musk 10-13-2019 01:01 AM

I have a few dives on specific days this month (2 to be exact) - but yeah, was expecting more frankly. Still waiting to know who's going to replace steeve.

emmasexytime 10-13-2019 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjf552 (Post 22543048)
chaturbate shaves, i'm making more money with dating in a week than i ever made with cb in a month. Yes...dating.


What dating program/s are you using? We have done ok with some of these. :thumbsup

pornuploader 10-13-2019 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjf552 (Post 22543048)
chaturbate shaves, i'm making more money with dating in a week than i ever made with cb in a month. Yes...dating.

Which networks do you work?

Brian mike 10-13-2019 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjf552 (Post 22543048)
chaturbate shaves

Becareful... Accusation of this kind did now fly well the last few weeks :1orglaugh ... Just saying :upsidedow


Quote:

Originally Posted by bjf552 (Post 22543048)
i'm making more money with dating in a week than i ever made with cb in a month. Yes...dating.

Curious about if your promoting dating Rev/share or PPL ?

and for cam is it Rev/share or PPL ?

Femdom247 10-13-2019 05:59 PM

I know this is a Chaturbate thread but just wanted to say my sales are way way down for other sites p/c and LJ it is the worst I have ever seen it. Hoping things pick up again soon. I was just glad to see it was not just me with the October Blues

bill_musk 10-14-2019 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 22543398)
Here's some more stats and commentary:
If someone here with more experience and/or thousands of active monthly spenders would like to chime in and offer advice or commentary, I'm all ears.
Speigelau, your thoughts?


Very interesting stats, thanks for sharing. Once again, the number of spenders those stats are based on will change everything. But I have about the same feeling. I'm racking up more spenders everymonth yet I'm getting less revenues. But I "only" have 250+ total spenders, making it to about 70/80 active spenders.

Beaver1 10-14-2019 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tayax (Post 22543417)
Very interesting stats, thanks for sharing. Once again, the number of spenders those stats are based on will change everything. But I have about the same feeling. I'm racking up more spenders everymonth yet I'm getting less revenues. But I "only" have 250+ total spenders, making it to about 70/80 active spenders.

The none growing thing was mentioned before.
Interesting would be the opinions why?

AmateurFlix 10-14-2019 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tayax (Post 22543417)
Once again, the number of spenders those stats are based on will change everything ... I "only" have 250+ total spenders, making it to about 70/80 active spenders.

it's based on more than that and less than 1000, that's all the more I'm willing to say.

AllAboutCams 10-14-2019 06:07 PM

2 bloody charge backs this period for me

Shedevils 10-15-2019 01:54 PM

Welp this period has been a big disappointment. As soon as Steve left it all fell apart.

Beaver1 10-16-2019 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22544393)
Welp this period has been a big disappointment. As soon as Steve left it all fell apart.

That is irrational or must be magic.

First popup on mg since weeks, flash block on all browsers, to many re sign up beggars or just fluctuation.

Who knows?

Best regards

Andreweb 10-16-2019 07:59 AM

This period was much better than the last two so everything seems ok!

AllAboutCams 10-16-2019 09:25 AM

Well got another chargeback 2 from a 2012 account and 1 from a 2014 account

nikki99 10-16-2019 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreweb (Post 22544727)
This period was much better than the last two so everything seems ok!

same here....

Shedevils 10-16-2019 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 22544623)
That is irrational or must be magic.

First popup on mg since weeks, flash block on all browsers, to many re sign up beggars or just fluctuation.

Who knows?

Yeah all this is true and much more. It has become very difficult to replace spenders, and the spenders seem to disappear quickly.

The Steve thing is just a weird coincidence, he has his last day Oct 2 and the following days are all 0.00 for us.

Happy Hunting!

Beaver1 10-16-2019 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shedevils (Post 22544965)
The Steve thing is just a weird coincidence, he has his last day Oct 2 and the following days are all 0.00 for us.
Happy Hunting!

We had one $0.00 last period Oct 4.

Greetings

pencocaste 10-17-2019 10:47 AM

Hi,

Do you already received your payments? Normally to this time I already received it, but not yet

pornuploader 10-17-2019 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste (Post 22545387)
Hi,

Do you already received your payments? Normally to this time I already received it, but not yet

I got two hours ago

pencocaste 10-17-2019 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornuploader (Post 22545451)
I got two hours ago

What method do you use to withdrawal (epayments, bitcoin, etc)? I use epayments and I didnt receive yet, I sent an email to support

Brian mike 10-17-2019 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste (Post 22545456)
What method do you use to withdrawal (epayments, bitcoin, etc)? I use epayments and I didnt receive yet, I sent an email to support

We have now received our first epayments few hours ago from CB. :thumbsup

zhenyoung 10-17-2019 11:21 PM

I got 4 hours ago[paxum]


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