Let's not get involved in that.

Spanishcouple managed the impossible, to stay at the top even during a ticket show. 12,000 "viewers" staring at a black screen for 20 minutes already...

edit: 40 minutes into the show and there are still hundreds of gray users and almost 6,000 (!!!) anonymous viewers watching a black screen. It's still the fourth most watched room on cb with 40 minutes into a hidden cam show. I'm curious for an explanation that does NOT involve viewer bots. They finished second in the hourly competition despite being in hidden cam for 30 minutes of that hour. How?

This is still a guess but I would say cb got cold feet and rolled back the changes to their algorithm from some days that caused the twitter debate.

And after show was over the incredible number of 6,000 (!!!) viewers joined the room in just two minutes. Sorry, that's just a joke.

Feel sorry for the genuine hard working models tbh

look that
LMAO... chaturbate is becoming a joke

Where is this being discussed on Twitter?

+ stolen customers re-assigned to original affiliates and revenue recalculated

It started here

twitter . com/Milarky_/status/1117621661300350976

Chaturbate is leaking their traffic to the models
 

Hi there!

I have promoted chaturbate and I have sent lots of paied traffic, but they are leaking their traffic to the models, and by doing they are loosing the power because the traffic is power.

Chaturbate better take a look at livejasmin or stripchat in order get the power back by not allowing the models to advertise personal contacts, social media, youtube and other illegal stuff ( practices stealing the traffic from affiliated webmasters ) on their profiles.

Here it is a new screenshot which show that the site is loosing constantly the power to the models:

http://i66.tinypic.com/30vhbib.jpg

Paid traffic to cb is an error in my opinion. You're essentially paying them since their advertiser will monetize their traffic. By the way in listing the leaks you forgot the ad banners (top and right on your screenshot).

This may be a reason why they allow outgoing links (leaks): allowing models to advertise their links on their bio is "a selling point" so they will push to chaturbate which has ads etc ... Nowadays models are on all cam sites (you will see that cb models are also on camsoda, mfc and stripchat they often broadcast on these simultaneously)

Mind you, other sponsors have subtle and engineered ways to take your whales away from you. They aren't going to let models plant their leaks because they want to keep members on their system (unlike cb, they aren't publishers), but they will provide models with incentive (model links and model whitelabels with special permissions) which in effect will send your whales to another part of their system where you don't get commissions anymore. This is just 1 strategy but basically with these companies nowadays, it is like playing at the casino: the house always wins.

Remember that whales aren't lost for everyone.

Having models do marketing and bringing traffic too is smart IF all play by the same rules, meaning don't cheat with deleting cookies and not making new accounts for existing customers. Models bringing traffic can result in sign ups for everyone.

I've said it often, cb needs just one "quality manager" guy who flips through rooms, starting with the top rooms. This would have a noticeable effect.

You cannot have a site the size and revenue like cb run on auto pilot and rely on reports from users, webmasters and other models, which is also REALLY bad for the atmosphere, when everyone HAS to play police and blame others, because cb support seemingly never acts on their own.

edit: models like any affiliates can advertise towards chaturbate but there is no justification for advertising ON chaturbate.

You can remove the "IF": it IS smart. For them at least since they make money from ads.
However, like I said before, if you have a whitelabel you are losing: the cookie is not planted on chaturbate.com so the winning cookie is the model's, not the original referrer (wl owner).

Also the "customer reassignment" I assume will mostly be done in private, no monitoring can prevent this. It seems unavoidable but at least they should prevent from advertising means to communicate that (email address and social media)
.

Im going to start sending half my traffic to MFC. They have the right idea with models not being allowed to be affiliates. It stops all this scamming stuff that has infested chaturbate. I only see theyre problems getting worse in the future. Thing that annoys me about MFC was when they stopped allowing everyone to promote revshare. Thought they were too big back then and it blew up in theyre faces. Gonna have to give them a second chance though. Is anyone doing well with them?

Last days situations is much worse that before their changes.
Right now only cheater models can get stable profit on CB.

Banners are still there:
https://chaturbate.com/lulacum69/
https://chaturbate.com/goldengoddessxxx/

Yes if window is opened on the full screen on the full hd display it will not overflow navigation, BUT not everybody watch at full screen. and not everybody has fullhd screen

I think that the all cb answers was only for visibility that they do somethings. Not for the real actions.

P.S. MFC didn't converted for me before :(

me too :(

Right now CB is the site where the models have to find how to cheat cb, webmasters or the members. But not to find how to do a better shows for bigger income.

Mfc is a nightmare to market unless you have traffic from a dating site. Many of their top rooms are quite boring to watch. These rooms often have a bunch of whale tippers or they're showcase rooms for video sales.

My sales are shit this period

After all posts here and on twitter
I see, that cb listen only loud voices of cheaters, not other models or webmasters.
And will do changes only for cheaters. not for common webmasters and common models.

P.S. My "conspiracy theory" still can be right.

Here too, for the second period...

Also thinking of moving away half of my 60+ domains and try something else

I'm struggling with conversions / sign ups.

From 1 april until now i have 1 signup and $265,08 on spendings, so i get for whole april $53,02 at the moment.

Its just terrible!

She is not wrong in her analysis of what it takes to get users to spend money. For many users webcam rooms are social meeting places and that's why they stay. There used to be a room I hung out in just because the performer had fantastic music playlists. I don't know who said what about her specifically but that was certainly misplaced.

She doesn't speak to the whole account re-signup and cookie clearing issue tho. That's what brought me to the thread here and it still desperately needs to be fixed. There is a part of me that feels that if there was actually more hand curation at CB that things might look better.

I don't know what is wrong with Chaturbate now but everyone seems to be down, even some very big guys who I talk to who would never post here.

The main problem that she use a lot of bot for sticking on one of the first places.
one of the top places is the percent of rotation of top/best converting room codes. If its the first place - its about 50% of all rotation. And the first places is the places for the new registrations, that will convert to spenders in the future. Without new registrations will be no new spenders. Her room has a low quality for the first place.
As example, heatherbby9 uses a bots a lot, but she has much better quality and she doing something on cam. Mila does not! I don't want to say that heatherbby9 do something good. No! Everybody who use bots and banners breaking TOS must be punished.
But all these cheaters are untouchables. This was proved by time!
I want to repeat, she doesn't want 6 or 7 place. She wants only the first place, that's much better for any referral cheating technic.
The main problem that many average and low quality rooms use a bots and cheating technics for stealing referrals.
And chaturbate algorithms works only by down-voting basis. But this does not help against the bots, but hits very bad for common models.
Latest system works awful for everyone except cheaters :(

She is right about many things. Her conclusion abot cb discriminating her and pushing rooms rounds is just wrong.

There is a party who is not down, the bot net owners and (Eastern European) studios, who use(d) these. They will of course never write here. They "use" the Milas to complain about changes cb does.

CB just didn't pay enough attention to what was happening on the site. Now it's tough.

One or some cb guys who flip through rooms and, using historical data, sort out the studios (and some individual performers) that used the bot nets in the past and ban them from the platform. Will buy them some time to work on a better algorithm.

If possible revert "reassigned" user accounts and ban these girls from cb's affiliate program. They ban other affiliates too. These girls can still broadcast but cannot use the affiliate program anymore.

Yes they use Mila, but Mila use their bots. Maybe its her own bots, but she use a big amount of bots. And she wants only the first place

Sure, since the bot net owners can't make public complaints that their ways do not work anymore, the sane thing to do is put their accounts in the rooms of some top models because they WILL complain for sure.

I'm not sure if Mila "uses" the bots, meaning she pays for them. I don't think she does it, she just profits from it (unknowingly).

One of the most drastic cases right now is Savageema. If you have a cb account, follow her and check her traffic. Turns cam on and has 500 to 1,000 viewers in seconds, a number most honest cb broadcasters will never reach.

https://chaturbate.com/savageema

https://chaturbate.com/goldengoddessxxx/
Online again

https://i.imgur.com/pTNHBng.png

Banners over main links are still there.

P.S. I write all this links because only after many reports from many webmasters cb start to do something

I looked at her page. It looks like a bad myspace page.

:(

.

Found another model placing an image with her own ref link. She is covering the default Sign Up link button with her own link and image. But in this case the image she placed is broken and is exposing her tweak.

https://i.imgur.com/5UUonTa.jpg

I am talking about the orange sign up button. Pay attention to the broken image and when you mouse over, you can figure out the trick.

Did Chaturbate implement any special coding and programming to prevent these model links override the original cookies in whitelabel domains?

If a user visits a whitelabel domain, and joins using this model's ref link, who will get credited for that sign up?

My last wire transfer payout from April 15th did not arrive,
someone with the same problems.

Best Regards

@Beaver1

PLEASE USE paxum

I have never used Paxum because there are too many problems reported.
My CB payout is set to wire transfer.

Always link to the room.. I want all the names...

chaturbate.com/chroniclove

Have you reported? I always report these cheaters, but all my emails are ignored :upsidedow

A: the model

I feel like a doomsday prophete on the streets of New York: I've raised that question over a year ago.


Back in february I proposed a quick fix for whitelabels owners:
This was hiding harmful links (customers hijacking) ONLY thus protecting the original referrer when the domain isn't chaturbate.com (whitelabels). All other links/leaks were left untouched (social, personal sites, etc ..)

But cb, this time, was quick to technically disable this code (try to apply it to one of your whitelabels). :upsidedow

How is everyone's signup rate? Mine seems down in April (end of chart):

https://i.imgur.com/B02liWtl.png

receive payment on the 18th with Paxum.
Wonder if the Easter long weekend could have delay the wire ?

My wire payment arived today thanks for the feedbacks.

https://i.imgur.com/5UUonTa.jpg

This cheater is online right now :321GFY

https://en.chaturbate.com/chroniclove/

You're kidding me. I still use the code that blocks nofollow but it makes a bit of a mess of things.

Signups for me are at about 20% of where I was last fall.

The first version I posted here was a bit drastic, but the code above is not intrusive.

What code do you have running and what mess does it do. I can make suggestions.

I am concerned about this but I would like a few more feedback. We navigate in the dark here. I think signups count when email has been confirmed, is this correct? Has it always been like this? It would really be helpful if someone from Chaturbate could tell us how it works and if changes were made so we know the cause-effects.

I suppose I am using the first version which hides pretty much everything:

a[rel="nofollow"] {
visibility:hidden;
}
img[rel="nofollow"] {
visibility:hidden;
}


This will be my worst period for spending ever unless the next six days have a miraculous turnaround.