slapass

So we are coming up on the end of his run. How has he done?

Ecomony - booming. Pretty hard to argue this one. I am not sure he did much but maybe that is the best move.

Health care - Prices are higher. We are not getting the benefit as it is possibly repealed every other day. Can they roll it back and kick tons of people back off? I have to say neutral but long time it still has the chance of being a home run.

Iran - I mention it as if this works it would be nice feather. If they nuke us in 5 years, it will be all his fault even if its not.

Iraq/Afghanistan - got us out. Thumbs up on this. Did it create Isis? Maybe. Sort of hard to blame him.

Anything I am missing?

Are we better off after 8 years? I have to say yes. Overall his time in office went pretty well.

Rochard

I believe he has done well.

The economy was by far the most important issue. This was our lowest point since the Great Depression. People were loosing their jobs and their houses. My community was hit really hard; We were the fastest growing city in the country from 2000-2010 with a 280% increase (Lincoln, California) so we had lots of new, crappy loans. Building projects just stopped including a huge condo complex and multiple businesses that were half built, stopped, and eventually town down. Our city government was on a massive upswing, building fire stations and hiring police officers, new roads, etc... Everything came grinding to a halt and entire sections of our city here were deserted.

What we needed with the economy was a slow and steady hand, and some smart decisions. And that's what we got with Obama.

It was unfair that Obama got blasted and blamed for the economy when he didn't cause it and was trying to fix it. Yet still today some people believe things are "horrible" although we have a 5% unemployment rate. This has gotten nasty with the other side just cherry picking bad stats and hitting on that.

The economy is by far the most important thing for us. The rest is blah.

Healthcare - Hasn't had much of an effect on me. I had healthcare before, and I have the same exact healthcare now. It went up a bit, but, it was going to go up no matter what. It does every year. More people than ever before have healthcare, so it seems Obamacare is really working. Our government needs to invest it's time in fixing what is wrong, not trying to get rid of it.

Iran - Whatever. If Iran had nukes in the morning it doesn't change anything. Russia, China, India, and Pakistan all have nuclear weapons and it hasn't changed a damn thing. So who the fuck cares? If Iran launches any kind of a nuclear attack, their entire country would become a glass parking lot instantly.

Iraq/Afghanistan - Our military performed flawlessly, but we were stuck in two never ending wars. Our military cannot be used as a decades long occupation force. Time for us to leave.

The politics has changed in Washington DC. It's no longer about doing the right thing, it's about beating the other side. This is wrong.

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2MuchMark

It doesn't matter. Even if Obama cured cancer and saved the world from a meteor impact, republicans would still trash him. I'm surprise they haven't blamed Obama for Donald Trump yet.

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Who is to blame for Donald Trump? Obama, the media, Jeb Bush, FDR and the Buffalo Bills. - The Washington Post

Un fucking real.

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dyna mo

even when given an opportunity to be positive, you choose to be negative.


so much for that you want to live in a world where everyone gets along blah blah crap.

dyna mo

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sure ya would.

Robbie

GDP is still very low. Needs to be over 4% to be "booming".

Over 40% of the people of age to be in the workforce are unemployed. The workforce percentage of employed people is at historical lows (they don't tell you that with the new way they count "unemployment rates").

I would say the economy is crippling along. Still hasn't recovered from the crash of 2008.
It is historically the longest period of "recovery" in history. The Great Depression had a faster "recovery" (thanks WW2).

Is that Obama's fault?
In my opinion he made several moves that hindered progress. Starting with ObamaCare.
And many things he DIDN'T do that could have helped move the economy in my opinion.

I don't think any historians or economists will look back on the Obama years as "booming" in any way, shape, or form.

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mikesouth

In many areas he has done well but where he and most of the past presidents fail is on civil liberties. with each successive President we have become more of a police state I expected (for some reason) that Obama would not renew The Patriot Act, the he did cementing the real truth that the two parties are really one and the same and their objective is a more authoritarian government.

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blackmonsters

But you wouldn't dare blame republicans for stalling congress and fucking up the country the whole time.

Republicans gutted the Affordable Health Care act so calling it Obamacare is bullshit.

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dyna mo

I give BO a C-

He turned out to be a much more polarizing Potus than I expected. But he has done some good things. He contributed to restoring the economy but he's not responsible for it. Besides, there's a massive income disparity now and median household wages have fallen.

He was also woefully inadequate on foreign policy.

Race relations are also very poor right now and gun sales skyrocketed under BO, much of those sales to democratic households.

Vendzilla

Totally agree,
I live in LA and I can't drive anywhere without seeing the homeless and I can't go anywhere without a panderer hitting me up for loose change.
This is not the world the liberals see if they continue to support that loser.

And yes, jobs and the economy are the same and the most important.

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Rochard

Of course you disagree.

Oddly enough I was in LA for Christmas - I biked twenty miles through LA and Hollywood - and I don't recall seeing a single homeless person. I don't think the number of homeless people you see in LA is an indication of the economy - There was still homeless people in LA when Bush first took office.

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Vendzilla

Obama's overall average approval rating is now just a hair better than president Carters.


Jimmy Carter
45.5

Ronald Reagan
52.8

George H.W. Bush
60.9

Bill Clinton
55.1

George W. Bush
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Barrack Obama
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think about that

blackmonsters

You have the nerve to call Obama polarizing without even mentioning John Boehner or the Tea Party garbage.
This is why republicans have no integrity.

John Boehner was the epitome of a bitter racist loser.

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Vendzilla

LOL< you weren't looking

L.A. council declares shelter crisis in effort to help the homeless - LA Times
L.A. council declares shelter crisis in effort to help the homeless

The rest of what you said is opinion and worthless if you think it's ok that there is a homeless because it was there when Bush was in office, that doesn't make it OK.

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think about that

dyna mo

The thread is asking for my opinion on Obama, not boehner. I gave it.

Not to mention, its not mutually exclusive. Boehner is a divisive politician and so has been BO. He's played politics a lot and often and surprising.

sandman!

he hasent done bad

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blackmonsters

Your inability to digest the truth is amazing.

Homeless people started running the country over when Reagan became president.
Reagan closed mental hospitals and push all those people on the street and he claimed
that homeless people liked being homeless.

Homeless by Choice - YouTube

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Vendzilla

You have the nerve to say otherwise, more people hate this president than any other president in recent history, you just think your opinion is all that counts.

Look at the polls I just posted, why do you think his poll numbers are so bad, because there are a lot of people that can't stand him

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think about that

dyna mo

LA is about to spend an additional $100 million on that LA homeless crisis too. Homeless are everywhere. Fuck, they're living on overpasses.

Rob

He's knocked a couple strokes off his golf handicap.

Vendzilla

MY gawd you are an ignorant fuck, I never said Obama was to blame, this has been going on for a long time, but it has noticeably got worse. Fuck, I can't believe what a fucking moron you are?

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think about that

blackmonsters

Oh wow, because a bunch of racist idiots hate Obama I should forget that Osama Bin Laden is dead.

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Vendzilla

I counted yesterday, I went to 4 different places, I got hit up 7 times for my change, one wanted a dollar. I saw 6 homeless cities under bridges. I'm going for a ride right now, probably see several on the way.

The people that are posting this isn't a problem are heartless bastards that think it's not there, it is, they just can't see it. It would put their hero in a bad light!

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think about that

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With the roadblocks the Right has put in his way, Obama has kicked some ass.

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blackmonsters

My Buddha, you are an ignorant fuck to post in a thread titled "How has Obama done" and
bring up the homeless as if Obama created them.

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Rochard

We use the U3 unemployment rate as the official rate. We always have; This is the standard.

But if you insist, let's compare other formats. Let's compare U3 to U5 and U6 - same thing. We peaked in 2010, and it's come down since.


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The truth is Republicans try to scare us saying "the real unemployment rate isn't 5%, it's 10%". That's a scare tactic meant to make Obama look bad, and it's wrong. The truth is the U6 unemployment rate peaked at 17% in 2010, and has almost been cut in half since then.

The reality is that unemployment in all cases is coming down since peaking at 2010.

If you want to compare apples to apples, let's do that. The current U6 unemployment rate is 9.9%. In September of 2003 it was 10.2%. In other words, currently we are doing better with the U6 unemployment rate after the recession under Obama than we were doing long before the recession under Bush.

Not good enough for you? Great, let's compare the U5 rate. Currently it's 6.1%. In June of 2003 it was 7.2%.

No matter how you look at it, the unemployment rate across the board is better under Obama after the recession than it was under Bush long before the recession. If that is not enough, unemployment by all measures continue to fall.

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TheLegacy

The parties are always at war no matter what. Even if a solution for anything is found the opposing party would refuse it simply because it wasn't their party's idea and don't want to give credit to anyone not flying their flag. Same is true in other countries as well.

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Vendzilla

The truth is that 8 million jobs have been created under Obama , yet there are 14 million new people, do the math, more people are out of work now than when he started.
That's where the Workforce Participation rate comes in.
And Obama started with a 3 million job deficit.

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think about that

Vendzilla

Hey shit for brains, it was relevant to the conversation

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think about that

Vendzilla

So what was his excuse hen the democrats had control of congress during his first term?

During his first term, house and senate controlled by democrats, 1.3 million jobs generated

During his second term, house and senate controlled by republicans, 7 million jobs were generated.

I think you have it wrong, it was Obama that was blocking

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think about that

Vendzilla

Yes, been that way forever, except the divide has gotten noticeably worse under Obama, never has a president been so hated than Obama. That's what has made his average approval rating drop to the levels of Carter, he's even polling worse than GW Bush on Average!

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think about that

Vendzilla

Only a low life calls people racist just because they don't agree with you!

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think about that

Vendzilla

LOL, you're blaming the republicans for Obamacare, seriously? Funniest thing I have heard today!

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think about that

Rochard

Fourteen million new people?

Huh?

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blackmonsters

Only a racist calls people low life for pointing out the obvious facts in America.
America is racist; it always has been.
Why do you even bother to argue that it's not?

It's like you never read a history book and think MLK just walked around a lot because he was restless.

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Vendzilla

I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character


So here you are, judging people by the color of their skin. According to you all white people are racist. You're an ignorant fuck!

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think about that

Vendzilla

Population of the US in 2009 was 306.8

right now it's 322.9 Population Clock

So it's actually more, 16.1 million.

so Under Obama, 8.7 new jobs, 16.1 million more people

Shows that the new jobs are not keeping up with the increase in population
And why we have the lowest workforce participation rate since president Carter
Workforce Participation rate when Obama took office in the middle of a recession was 65.7 and currently stands at 62.6

Jobs created during U.S. presidential terms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And why the unemployment rate is complete bull shit!

and it gets worse

The Big Lie: 5.6% Unemployment

EDITORIAL: Obama&#39;s unemployment rate lies exposed by reality - Washington Times

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STFU, you don't celebrate MLK day; you sit around angry thinking a nigga beat you at something because you have a paid day off of work.

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crockett

Obama been damn busy fathering 14 million babies. No wonder so many black kids don't have daddy at home. Obama just can't be everywhere you know.. cut the brother some slack..

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Everything he has done will be undone within this year or shortly thereafter. The pumped up stock market and economy is already unraveling. I'm reading articles of tens of thousand job layoffs daily. The largest insurers are bailing on obamacare, etc etc.. The Obama bubble is over. Get prepared now.

slapass

I forgot Bin Laden.

Homeless - Are you guys nuts? There were tent camps around the country when he took over. Right where I live they had taken over the park. It might not be getting better or has slipped back but over the 8 years the trend is WAY better.

Unemployment is way down. This is the base number. Jobless claims is at some 30 year low. Employment as a % of population is less good and we know that is because baby boomers are retiring. That is going to get worse and no one can change that.

GDP Growth - I agree it is less robust then anyone would like.

Rochard

And? So because you see homeless people in the street so Obama has failed?

There is always homeless people. Always. I remember homeless people as a kid in NYC. That was nearly forty years ago. Nothing has changed; There will always be homeless people in large cities. Always.

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Rochard

You are telling me that the population in the United States has increased by fourteen million people and yet our employment rate - no matter what version of the unemployment rate you are using - has dropped to levels not seen since 2003.... Isn't that even more impressive?

Nah, you must be correct. The United States unemployment rate must be one of the most tracked numbers across the country, if not around the world. But it must be wrong and must be bullshit.

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