Do you really make money with VR ? - GoFuckYourself.com

XMaster · 01-20-2017, 04:10 AM

Hi guys.

VR is the big deal nowadays but beside the fun of this new technology, Is there really a market with which you can make money, right now?

VR headsets are very expensive, mobile headset sucks, and the market is very small anyway.

All those who had announced a VR product have postponed their plan or even no longer exist.

I'm interested in your insights and thought on this. I truly believe that VR can be huge but not necessarily the way it's started.

TeenCat · 01-20-2017, 05:06 AM

what do you expect for answer? yes, vr sells, go sell it!

if someone cannot afford to buy headset, he cannot afford to buy pornsites anyway

and the market is big enough and there are still sites that are in progress so far i know, did not hear about postponing or canceling vr project, who was that?

have luck and have a nice weekend everyone

Brian mike · 01-20-2017, 05:16 AM

Why VR ? When you have REAL CAM girl in Real time available online

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Konda · 01-20-2017, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by XMaster

Hi guys.

VR is the big deal nowadays but beside the fun of this new technology, Is there really a market with which you can make money, right now?

VR headsets are very expensive, mobile headset sucks, and the market is very small anyway.

All those who had announced a VR product have postponed their plan or even no longer exist.

I'm interested in your insights and thought on this. I truly believe that VR can be huge but not necessarily the way it's started.

Mobile headsets don't suck that much, they work pretty well for VR porn even the $10 cardbox ones gives a pretty decent VR porn experience.

Some paysites give away a free cheap headset when you join, it works pretty well.

I am testing a few of them and they do get sales

Tea Money · 01-20-2017, 07:56 AM

It's definitely the future

BigFurry · 01-20-2017, 08:00 AM

The best headset for VR porn movies is actually a mobile one.

Gear VR is only $50-$70 extra for the owners of the Galaxy S6/S7 phones. In the S7 launch promos, you could actually get them for free.

(This applies to movies only, for games it's a different story.)

teomaxxx · 01-20-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda

Some paysites give away a free cheap headset when you join, it works pretty well.

I am testing a few of them and they do get sales

which sites? I would like to promote them a bit...

celandina · 01-20-2017, 12:00 PM

For high end mainstream maybe, for cheap porn it will go the way of 3D ( a big hype about 4 years ago..) In my view it will be dead by the end of the year...

If nobody believes it just recall the 3D craze of 2011. I cannot sell you swamp land in Florida but two high end 3D video cameras.... For cheap

All porn was to be in 3D by 2012.

PR_Glen · 01-20-2017, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina

For high end mainstream maybe, for cheap porn it will go the way of 3D ( a big hype about 4 years ago..) In my view it will be dead by the end of the year...

If nobody believes it just recall the 3D craze of 2011. I cannot sell you swamp land in Florida but two high end 3D video cameras.... For cheap

All porn was to be in 3D by 2012.

that is a pretty weak comparison. 3d never really took off for a reason, it was kind of terrible and used technology from the 60's with the red and green lenses even. VR involves much higher quality video shot specifically for it and equipment that is very popular and quite affordable compared to the 3d tv was. There is also limited content for it right now so headset owners are scouring the internet for anything new to view it with. Affiliates have been asking for more isolated markets that isn't just more of the same, this is a perfect example of that and it is a growing market. Wankz VR is killing it, and we aren't the only ones.

celandina · 01-21-2017, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

that is a pretty weak comparison. 3d never really took off for a reason, it was kind of terrible and used technology from the 60's with the red and green lenses even. VR involves much higher quality video shot specifically for it and equipment that is very popular and quite affordable compared to the 3d tv was. There is also limited content for it right now so headset owners are scouring the internet for anything new to view it with. Affiliates have been asking for more isolated markets that isn't just more of the same, this is a perfect example of that and it is a growing market. Wankz VR is killing it, and we aren't the only ones.

Hey more power to you and maybe you are right, but with VR ( or 360 view) you need to get rid off all the crap, cables,lights, crew and their gear, never mind the dirty kitchen, snoozing grandma in the BG etc...etc.... For a proper VR ( aside sitting somewhere with a box over your head), you need a fully adapted studio or location and green screens to hide the shit and then plate something suitable in it.... Not cheap....but what the heck do I know,maybe folks will not care if a dog is licking its balls in the BG while in the FG somebody is fucking, so good luck.

Also it was easier for a couple to fuck wearing pair of glasess ( while watching some sexy 3D porn) then sitting there with a milk carton on their heads watching VR.

Barry-xlovecam · 01-21-2017, 10:29 AM

If you can download VR content with no DRM then it will be given away on free tubes in a few months. Make the money while you can.

TheDynasty · 01-21-2017, 10:55 AM

VR Sells

MaDalton · 01-21-2017, 12:30 PM

Well, I do know first hand that it sells. And I just watched 2 days at AEE how people react that try it for the first time. It won't go away, it will only get better.

CamsEtc · 01-21-2017, 02:28 PM

^^ this ;)

Idigmygirls · 01-21-2017, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx

which sites? I would like to promote them a bit...

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To sign up to promote HoloGirlsVR. Multiple additional sites to promote including KinkVR and Burning Angel VR will be available shortly after our return from AVN.

jscott · 01-21-2017, 07:37 PM

So far not making much from few descriptive links, but have plans on launching vr projects that will give better results. From what ive heard, vr doing great!

Konda · 01-21-2017, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx

which sites? I would like to promote them a bit...

Here are some, conversions are pretty much the same on these 3
Don't mind the ratios this is from a 'blind' text link on a (non related) tube, so not very targeted traffic

Paul Markham · 01-22-2017, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina

For high end mainstream maybe, for cheap porn it will go the way of 3D ( a big hype about 4 years ago..) In my view it will be dead by the end of the year...

If nobody believes it just recall the 3D craze of 2011. I cannot sell you swamp land in Florida but two high end 3D video cameras.... For cheap

All porn was to be in 3D by 2012.

To shoot the average porn scene in VR isn't going to work, like 3D it will only emphasise how crap it is.

To shoot great porn in VR might just work. Assuming a company can sign up enough to justify the costs. For instance, if it requires twice as much money to shoot a site has to increase it's sales/retention every month.

So it will only be a handful of sites able to afford it.

Now factor in Piracy and free VR on Tubes.

Paul Markham · 01-22-2017, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

that is a pretty weak comparison. 3d never really took off for a reason, it was kind of terrible and used technology from the 60's with the red and green lenses even. VR involves much higher quality video shot specifically for it and equipment that is very popular and quite affordable compared to the 3d tv was. There is also limited content for it right now so headset owners are scouring the internet for anything new to view it with. Affiliates have been asking for more isolated markets that isn't just more of the same, this is a perfect example of that and it is a growing market. Wankz VR is killing it, and we aren't the only ones.

Not bad. WankzVR - College Rendezvous - Chloe Couture Video

This is the problem.

https://thepiratebay.org/search/WankzVR/0/99/0

Your movies aren't distinctive enough to make most viewers demand WankzVR. They can get off to any number of pirated suppliers or pay for membership on other people's sites.

Paul Markham · 01-22-2017, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

If you can download VR content with no DRM then it will be given away on free tubes in a few months. Make the money while you can.

Don't ignore piracy. Older viewers might be less drawn to VR and more likely to pay for porn. Younger viewers are brought up on piracy.

Paul Markham · 01-22-2017, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

Well, I do know first hand that it sells. And I just watched 2 days at AEE how people react that try it for the first time. It won't go away, it will only get better.

Watching games or movies will be awesome with VR, they have the budgets and people to get it right. We don't.

TeenCat · 01-22-2017, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Watching games or movies will be awesome with VR, they have the budgets and people to get it right. We don't.

hey paul, with all respect, if you are talking about you, do not say we ...

MaDalton · 01-22-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Watching games or movies will be awesome with VR, they have the budgets and people to get it right. We don't.

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

hey paul, with all respect, if you are talking about you, do not say we ...

this...

Sorry, Paul, but you have really no idea what can be done or not at this point - and what it costs.

XMaster · 01-23-2017, 03:43 AM

Thanks for your insights guys.

Paul Markham · 01-23-2017, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

hey paul, with all respect, if you are talking about you, do not say we ...

OK the majority of the porn producers. Obviously when I said we I didn't mean affiliates.

Paul Markham · 01-23-2017, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

this...

Sorry, Paul, but you have really no idea what can be done or not at this point - and what it costs.

So tell us what a BG/GG Brazzers level porn scene costs to produce in VR and HD. finished and ready to go on site.

With good looking models, good location and good action.

celandina · 01-23-2017, 09:59 AM

You

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

To shoot the average porn scene in VR isn't going to work, like 3D it will only emphasise how crap it is.

To shoot great porn in VR might just work. Assuming a company can sign up enough to justify the costs. For instance, if it requires twice as much money to shoot a site has to increase it's sales/retention every month.

So it will only be a handful of sites able to afford it.

Now factor in Piracy and free VR on Tubes.

My very point,

doing it well is where the costs are and I am NOT talking yet about content itself. Just the crap laying around, the "fish eye" distorted effect of cheap cameras and the erotic effect of a box on your head, after all, many couples watch good porn togheter to get inspired....;)

Colmike9 · 01-23-2017, 10:18 AM

I have a much bigger background in 3d design and game development than web design.
But, if I want to make an adult VR game myself (Vive preferred), where would someone like me get funding for it instead of having to hunt and find an hourly job doing it for some other company?...

MaDalton · 01-23-2017, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So tell us what a BG/GG Brazzers level porn scene costs to produce in VR and HD. finished and ready to go on site.

With good looking models, good location and good action.

not one cent more than 2D - if you know what you do.

only post production is a little more extensive

Colmike9 · 01-23-2017, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

not one cent more than 2D - if you know what you do.

only post production is a little more extensive

I've only made some test games on Unity so far, but when you're filming VR, do you have to do any manual stitching? Just wondering what post is like.

MaDalton · 01-23-2017, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

I've only made some test games on Unity so far, but when you're filming VR, do you have to do any manual stitching? Just wondering what post is like.

nobody posted so far the full process in public - and I am not gonna start it

Colmike9 · 01-23-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

nobody posted so far the full process in public - and I am not gonna start it

I understand. That's why I prefer Steam's SDK to do it for me in Unity lol.

Yanks_Todd · 01-23-2017, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XMaster

Hi guys.

VR is the big deal nowadays but beside the fun of this new technology, Is there really a market with which you can make money, right now?

VR headsets are very expensive, mobile headset sucks, and the market is very small anyway.

All those who had announced a VR product have postponed their plan or even no longer exist.

I'm interested in your insights and thought on this. I truly believe that VR can be huge but not necessarily the way it's started.

Yes we are making money. The conversions are fantastic and we have raised our monthly price from $29.85 to $39.95. Not something we would do if the product wasn't selling. We offer no discounted join option.

Headsets and the necessary computer are expensive, but the price is coming down fast.

When you say "all those who had announced a VR product have postponed their plan or even no longer exist" who are you talking about exactly?

Yanks_Todd · 01-23-2017, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Watching games or movies will be awesome with VR, they have the budgets and people to get it right. We don't.

You really seem to think you know a lot here, but you really aren't knowledgeable in this space Paul.

Yanks_Todd · 01-23-2017, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Konda

Here are some, conversions are pretty much the same on these 3
Don't mind the ratios this is from a 'blind' text link on a (non related) tube, so not very targeted traffic

Give us a try. Those sites are all pretty similar to each other content wise, hit the amateur niche as well.

The Porn Nerd · 01-23-2017, 01:28 PM

There are three real possibilities for VR:

1. It goes the way of 3D. Extra equipment to watch a porn vid is extra equipment, regardless of quality, and many who want a quick wank won't bother with it. Plus, it takes more computing power etc that most won't pay for - and what about viewing it on mobile? Bring your headset for a quick wank in the bathroom! No thanks.

2. It does ok in the beginning (as all fads do) then fades in a year or two. Not gone completely but a tiny fraction of the overall market and Producers/Webmasters will have to crunch numbers to see if it's worth the extra effort.

3. It becomes "the norm", or part of the norm. Meaning, it's now expected the way HD/4K is becoming expected. Remember, in a few years we'll all have chips in our bodies and be part of The Borg so interfacing with VR will BE "reality".

The next barrier is tactile reproduction. Get the user to wear gloves or a condom-like thing on their dick so that it FEELS like he's touching tits, pussy etc and actually getting fucked. Then it's game on! Til then....meh.

Colmike9 · 01-23-2017, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

The next barrier is tactile reproduction. Get the user to wear gloves or a condom-like thing on their dick so that it FEELS like he's touching tits, pussy etc and actually getting fucked. Then it's game on! Til then....meh.

VPT · 01-23-2017, 02:08 PM

It is the future for sure but it takes years before everybody use it. And hoping that there ar no sites which offer the vr content for free because that will hurt the market big.

The Porn Nerd · 01-23-2017, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

That's the idea!! But if that only comes in white you'll be dubbed a racist.

Colmike9 · 01-23-2017, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

That's the idea!! But if that only comes in white you'll be dubbed a racist.

Make it with that white plastic from the 80s, it will turn yellowish brown eventually...

01-20-2017, 04:10 AM	#1
XMaster Poker Player Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,944	Do you really make money with VR ? Hi guys. VR is the big deal nowadays but beside the fun of this new technology, Is there really a market with which you can make money, right now? VR headsets are very expensive, mobile headset sucks, and the market is very small anyway. All those who had announced a VR product have postponed their plan or even no longer exist. I'm interested in your insights and thought on this. I truly believe that VR can be huge but not necessarily the way it's started. __________________ iStripper 50% revshare since 1998 You missed out on Bitcoin! Don't miss DOLZ.

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BigFurry Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,554	The best headset for VR porn movies is actually a mobile one. Gear VR is only $50-$70 extra for the owners of the Galaxy S6/S7 phones. In the S7 launch promos, you could actually get them for free. (This applies to movies only, for games it's a different story.)

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celandina Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11,401	For high end mainstream maybe, for cheap porn it will go the way of 3D ( a big hype about 4 years ago..) In my view it will be dead by the end of the year... If nobody believes it just recall the 3D craze of 2011. I cannot sell you swamp land in Florida but two high end 3D video cameras.... For cheap All porn was to be in 3D by 2012.

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MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,822	Well, I do know first hand that it sells. And I just watched 2 days at AEE how people react that try it for the first time. It won't go away, it will only get better. __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

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jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	So far not making much from few descriptive links, but have plans on launching vr projects that will give better results. From what ive heard, vr doing great!

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The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,527	There are three real possibilities for VR: 1. It goes the way of 3D. Extra equipment to watch a porn vid is extra equipment, regardless of quality, and many who want a quick wank won't bother with it. Plus, it takes more computing power etc that most won't pay for - and what about viewing it on mobile? Bring your headset for a quick wank in the bathroom! No thanks. 2. It does ok in the beginning (as all fads do) then fades in a year or two. Not gone completely but a tiny fraction of the overall market and Producers/Webmasters will have to crunch numbers to see if it's worth the extra effort. 3. It becomes "the norm", or part of the norm. Meaning, it's now expected the way HD/4K is becoming expected. Remember, in a few years we'll all have chips in our bodies and be part of The Borg so interfacing with VR will BE "reality". The next barrier is tactile reproduction. Get the user to wear gloves or a condom-like thing on their dick so that it FEELS like he's touching tits, pussy etc and actually getting fucked. Then it's game on! Til then....meh. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Now on Teams: peabodymedia

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VPT Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 8	It is the future for sure but it takes years before everybody use it. And hoping that there ar no sites which offer the vr content for free because that will hurt the market big.