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King Mark · 03-11-2024, 03:36 PM

Mojo is my favorite host I ever used. Seriously.

With that out of the way, I like when Brad gets emotional on here. Shits hilarious.

Fiddy cheers 🤣🥂

redwhiteandblue · 03-11-2024, 03:50 PM

See sig.

I'm running a 7900X with 128Gb of 4800MHz RAM, 2x4Tb Crucial NVMe in RAID0, 150Tb bandwidth with a 10Gb port for $139 a month. I couldn't find anything out there to beat that.

sarettah · 03-11-2024, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King Mark

With that out of the way, I like when Brad gets emotional on here.

this ^^^

MaDalton · 03-11-2024, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wtify

1. Russians (nothing wrong with it, just FYI)

a lot wrong with it

CaptainHowdy · 03-11-2024, 04:18 PM

Mojo so dope then . . .

2MuchMark · 03-11-2024, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Mark, buddy, it's like you just keep saying the same stuff out of disdain that I didn't support one of your GFY posts last year, which makes your replies in threads like this personal and a lot less informative than they could be.

Listen, if someone wants hosting from $5-$20/monthly anywhere in the world, this is not the realm I am referring to. I'm not the solution for that and we never advertised ourselves to be. There's a perfectly valid reason we don't sell solutions in this range- they generate a lot of noise, abuse complaints, chargebacks, and make a support desk busy with communication on accounts that are a loss-leader, even at scale.

There's no reason someone should try hosting from their home. If they can't afford something for the price of a coffee and a donut, we really shouldn't be giving them "serious" business advice.

This idea that a '$100 VPS' is absurd seems completely out of touch with current cloud and VPS technologies and what proper business practices will deliver insofar as performance is concerned. For example, our new VPS platform is faster than everything dedicated (or otherwise) at your "favorite" TMD hosting, by several hundred percent. Benchmarks can easily prove that. You just so sincerely want to be right about everything, that you've ignored all conversations and product offerings that I've had for the last 20 years, very much in spite of my genuine intentions and hard work.

Let's tackle your TMD Hosting, first. If we are comparing apples to apples VPS and dedicated hosting plans, we are ostensibly the same or less cost but providing service on more relevant new technology and with additional configuration options plus with what must be a much more advanced team. When you switch their prices to month-to-month instead of a triannual (3 year) advance payment their Linux VPS with 2 vCPU 4GB RAM becomes $54.99/month with 3TB of bandwidth whereas our 2 vCPU 4GB RAM is $29.88 with 300 Megabit unmetered (75TB+/-). You can get into the nuances of adding cPanel or instead choosing on-demand support and you end up with a total solution cost difference that is negligible, yet ours is faster and includes more transfer, which is pretty relevant for adult projects.

The only reason why web hosts push prepayment with steep discounts is when they're selling to a less qualified audience or are expecting high rates of attrition. We could discuss all of their dedicated server offerings, but they're so irrelevant with the underlying hardware, that it would end up being the case their fastest dedicated server with 16 cores and 32GB of RAM is probably only as fast as a "Medium" or "Large" MojoHost VPS, except with completely irrelevant I/O performance using their HDD or SSD. They're also either cheating cPanel on their dedicated server licensing or just completely moronic and haven't updated their own shopping cart. They have the cPanel cloud/VPS pricing on dedicated servers, so they're either cheating the system or too dumb to realize that their own license cost is nearly $60 per bare metal machine.

You reference Linode. Linode is very respectable, it was acquired by Akamai two years ago. My shopping cart prices are 33% off Linode's on the Premium CPU product, a slower CPU than what we are providing. Our pricing is 20% less than Linode's dedicated CPU product, which is significantly slower than our CPU. Lastly, we are about 20% more than Linode's shared-CPU tier, which of course our CPU choice is dramatically faster than. Except, by comparison to Linode, we provide unlimited bandwidth of 300 megabit, 600 megabit, or 1 gigabit, while they provide only 4-12TB of monthly transfer. Plus, we're using Gen4 NVMe storage, which is faster than what is offered on most of their tiers.

And then there's the fact that I am just sharing comparisons with our everyday "low" shopping cart prices. Nearly everyone approaches Natalie or myself for personalized service and a quote, which always leads to some percentage of additional discount. If you don't want to talk to people and don't value the fact that we are readily available, also here posting on this forum, and that we support the industry in so many ways - then probably we aren't a fit for your business.

There are tens of thousands of hosting resellers and smaller web hosts, so it's easy to find service at any price point and a little bit harder to understand what's going on underneath the hood at various providers. There are only a few hundred companies our size or larger. Bigger isn't always better, but it's also quite rude to not acknowledge what reliability, peace of mind, and an honest sales pitch are really worth. Hosting has always been a buyer-beware situation. At the point when web projects switch from being a hobby to being a livelihood, this is where we seek to meet new customers.

Cheers,

Brad

Brad, Buddy, I am not posting the "same stuff". This is another thread about hosting and servers, and I like to share what I have learned over the past 10 years. Hosting, Servers, Networks etc, are all things I do and support these days in my mainstream life.

Besides that, it is just fun for me - I *Love* this stuff. I geek-out and cosplay as a sysadmin in my homelab (hello ladies!) and have servers all over the place including Linode, AWS and Azure.

It is unfortunate that you did not take my side during that issue, but I do not give a flying fuck about that anymore (Hand shake if you want). I have never once said anything bad about you or Mojohost. You guys provide good service. I know this for a fact even though I am not your client. I have zero negative things to say about your company, and have never once said anything bad about it, so I don't know where you are coming from. You may not realize this, but I helped you recover lost payments from one of your customers years ago. You're welcome.

Should anyone host from home? Like I said in post #48 above, it is too risky for security and reliability reasons. It is FUN to do if you feel like learning a new skill, and learning is something I always ecourage other people to do.

On a personal note, you shouldn't put down your competitors like https://tmdhosting.com. They offer good services and fair prices just like you, and I am sure you are on par with them and could probably maybe beat them by offering a special package or something.

Comparing hosting provider hardware is kind of pointless. All hosting providers, especially cloud providers like AWS and Linode, all offer users the choice of CPU, HDD types (including nvme's, etc), and some like TMD also offer unliited bandwidth. Big factors like Bandwidth capacity, Data center locations, QoS policies and of course network infrastructure all make a huge difference too. When it comes to transfering files via FTP for example, a server that is physically closer to you may be faster than a machine with better hardware that is further away. Hops and latency matter. You know that, but not everyone does.

And of course there are lots of hosting resellers and smaller web hosts. In fact, anyone could spin-up some virtual machines and use something like https://www.whmcs.com to run their own hosting business. Is it easy? Fuck no. Do you need to be a you-level genius to make it successfull? Fuck yes.

Anyway, Tell you what - I'll help you out here.

Everyone: If you are in need of a good hosting provider with cool employees like Nathalie and great technical support and stellar reputation, checkout Mojohost.

Peace.

OneHungLo · 03-11-2024, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

No they aren't stupid, they just don't know. They listen to what sales reps tell them, or what sales reps allow them to think.

Or, Mark, they have no interest in learning their way around a server and exchange money for someone else's time to do it.

I could do my own bookkeeping and probably file my taxes through Turbo Tax, but I pay an accountant to sort that all out.

Why are you as a business owner having such a hard time grasping that?

jscott · 03-11-2024, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Or, Mark, they have no interest in learning their way around a server and exchange money for someone else's time to do it.
I could do my own bookkeeping and probably file my taxes through Turbo Tax, but I pay an accountant to sort that all out.
Why are you as a business owner having such a hard time grasping that?

Exactly. It's so strange, almost as if he has no experience running a business at all.

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

No they aren't stupid, they just don't know. They listen to what sales reps tell them, or what sales reps allow them to think.

Always trying to play that "i know it all" card.

Mark, do you actually believe that you're an expert on every subject, every persons body, and on everyone's business?

sandman! · 03-11-2024, 11:30 PM

It’s gfy what do you expect ?

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Originally Posted by MrVids

This is what I get for posting for the first time in 7 years. I titled the thread the way I did so I wouldn't trigger people into posting Mojo 4,194 recommendations.

I know Mojo and I have boxes there which are likely to stay there. I just wanted to know who else people host with these days so I can look around and make sure I have a good feel for what's out there.

Maybe I should have titled it: "We all know Mojo is dope and Brad is great. Are there any other hosts left standing?"

With any luck, this will be my last post until 2031.

Captcha · 03-12-2024, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

See sig.

I'm running a 7900X with 128Gb of 4800MHz RAM, 2x4Tb Crucial NVMe in RAID0, 150Tb bandwidth with a 10Gb port for $139 a month. I couldn't find anything out there to beat that.

cpanel included?

redwhiteandblue · 03-12-2024, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Captcha

cpanel included?

No I use my own DA licence on all my servers, I don't know what their price is for cPanel.

King Mark · 03-12-2024, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott

Exactly. It's so strange, almost as if he has no experience running a business at all.

Always trying to play that "i know it all" card.

Mark, do you actually believe that you're an expert on every subject, every persons body, and on everyone's business?

As Americans, we could ask your Canadian ass the same thing bro 🤣

I love Canada btw, but Canadian red hats are a special breed idiocy.

2MuchMark · 03-12-2024, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Or, Mark, they have no interest in learning their way around a server and exchange money for someone else's time to do it.

If you take a moment to re-read what I said, your take-aways would be that I am emphising basic concepts like "shop around" and "know what you're buying", and "Learning is fun".

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I could do my own bookkeeping and probably file my taxes through Turbo Tax, but I pay an accountant to sort that all out.

Of course, and so do I same thing. I don't like accounting (except in software), I hate taxes, and like most business owners, don't have the time nor energy to dive into it except when absolutely necessary.

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Why are you as a business owner having such a hard time grasping that?

I really think you need to take your time and read what I posted.

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Mark, do you actually believe that you're an expert on every subject, every persons body, and on everyone's business?

Exactly where did I call myself an expert? No where. Exactly where did I say I am an expert of Mojohost? Nowhere either.

And exactly where did I say that Mojohost is a good hosting provider with a stellar rep? Right here:

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Everyone: If you are in need of a good hosting provider with cool employees like Nathalie and great technical support and stellar reputation, checkout Mojohost.

czarina · 03-12-2024, 07:56 AM

VACARES.com
they're freaking GRRRREAT!

mrmarlowe · 03-12-2024, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MrVids

Just wondering what other hosts there are out there to consider other than Mojohost? It's been a while since I've shopped.

Unfortunately there aren't any that are as good as Mojo Host! Stick with Mojo Host. I've been with them for over 10 years now. There support is the best I've ever encountered.

Brad Mitchell · 03-12-2024, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

See sig.

I'm running a 7900X with 128Gb of 4800MHz RAM, 2x4Tb Crucial NVMe in RAID0, 150Tb bandwidth with a 10Gb port for $139 a month. I couldn't find anything out there to beat that.

Hi Redwhiteandblue,

Your server from Interserver.net is barely a "server" at all. It does not use error-correcting (ECC) RAM. Also, it uses consumer grade NVMe storage. Consumer NVMe and SSDs do not have power-loss protection (PLP) to prevent against data corruption in the event of power loss, and they also won't have the performance characteristics of enterprise storage under load. It's fine if you're happy with it, but their web site doesn't share this information about the server not being built from all server components.

Brad

AMDWarrior · 03-12-2024, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hi Redwhiteandblue,

Your server from Interserver.net is barely a "server" at all. It does not use error-correcting (ECC) RAM. Also, it uses consumer grade NVMe storage. Consumer NVMe and SSDs do not have power-loss protection (PLP) to prevent against data corruption in the event of power loss, and they also won't have the performance characteristics of enterprise storage under load. It's fine if you're happy with it, but their web site doesn't share this information about the server not being built from all server components.

Brad

But he's getting a great deal on it...lol website is prolly slow and looks like ass too.

Wautier · 03-12-2024, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hi Redwhiteandblue,

Your server from Interserver.net is barely a "server" at all. It does not use error-correcting (ECC) RAM. Also, it uses consumer grade NVMe storage. Consumer NVMe and SSDs do not have power-loss protection (PLP) to prevent against data corruption in the event of power loss, and they also won't have the performance characteristics of enterprise storage under load. It's fine if you're happy with it, but their web site doesn't share this information about the server not being built from all server components.

Brad

It matters not to them due to a) backups, and b) not being in Zambia to expect any outages.

Consumer-grade hardware will work fine for most people with a proper backup plan set in place, and the cost will be significantly lower than if they were to pay for enterprise grade.

The real issue here, and the reason so many people being triggered is the tech support that is often cocky, laying the blame on the customer, and simply saying you need to upgrade for nearly everything.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Hiring more locals, and not outsourcing to meet the demand, but save on labor costs is what would reduce the comments you usually get. It's just that people often won't elaborate on why they are triggered.

Brad Mitchell · 03-12-2024, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

The real issue here, and the reason so many people being triggered is the tech support that is often cocky, laying the blame on the customer, and simply saying you need to upgrade for nearly everything.

I don't know whose technical support you're describing with these comments, but none of this describes MojoHost. Our staff has incredible humility and they're terrible at selling more hosting. We squeeze every bit of performance out of servers for clients and only recommend upgrades when they're absolutely necessary after exhausting all measures of tweaking the server environment.

Brad

Tasty1 · 03-12-2024, 01:24 PM

Depends what you want to host. For more big adult sites or sites that mustn't go down for even short time i would go for mojo. Or sites that need better knowledge and know the industry.

In the mean time i have a lot of domains for sale i want to host instead of redirecting to Sedo /Dan. All html, no databse. That will will do fine on a cheap shared or cloud host. I got some hostinger cloud hosting for 4 years for that.

Now must decide where i should set up some mechbunny scripts.

Wautier · 03-12-2024, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I don't know whose technical support you're describing with these comments, but none of this describes MojoHost. Our staff has incredible humility and they're terrible at selling more hosting. We squeeze every bit of performance out of servers for clients and only recommend upgrades when they're absolutely necessary after exhausting all measures of tweaking the server environment.

Brad

Go back to the ticket history, study as many tickets as you can, and see how your outsourced Staff respond to customers, and then come back to me and tell me I am wrong.

I haven't seen the humility, but I have witnessed a lot of the "the aforementioned script is hogging your available resources, you need more resources", "it's the script's fault", "we can't find that", etc.

It's not that they are not knowledgeable, or unable to do something, it's that they have no real incentive to be pro-active, and do some proper troubleshooting instead of going back and forth that the customer is wrong, that they need more information, etc. They see it as a 9 to 5, and that's your real issue here. Selling a dream company that runs off of outsourced tech contractors that generally won't go the extra mile.

Take it for what it is: honest feedback.

Brad Mitchell · 03-12-2024, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

Go back to the ticket history, study as many tickets as you can, and see how your outsourced Staff respond to customers, and then come back to me and tell me I am wrong.

I haven't seen the humility, but I have witnessed a lot of the "the aforementioned script is hogging your available resources, you need more resources", "it's the script's fault", "we can't find that", etc.

It's not that they are not knowledgeable, or unable to do something, it's that they have no real incentive to be pro-active, and do some proper troubleshooting instead of going back and forth that the customer is wrong, that they need more information, etc. They see it as a 9 to 5, and that's your real issue here. Selling a dream company that runs off of outsourced tech contractors that generally won't go the extra mile.

Take it for what it is: honest feedback.

I don't know who you are, so that makes a review of your ticket history not possible, yet. I'm going to direct message you for that information, because honestly I would very much like to read your tickets so that I can understand your perspective. Without a review of your ticket history and understanding of what your hosting resources are, it's not possible for me to comment your experience, publicly or privately. If you've had one or multiple tickets that were handled poorly, I'll certainly be able to discern that when I read them and take corrective measures, as-needed.

None of our staff is outsourced. We have a blended global team with employees living in about 10 countries, a count that has expanded quite a bit since the war started. We have competitive wages and tremendous benefits. Everyone that works for us is full-time, paid directly by us, and nobody works out of any other company offices. These would be characteristics to accurately describe 'out-sourced.'

The average experience with our support team is very much to the contrary of what you're reporting here. This doesn't mean that I am disagreeing with your experience, but it's not what I see when I review service or hear when I talk to our clients daily. Out staff is absolutely motivated to go above and beyond in support tickets. It's actually a part of our core values and something that we manage, monitor and review employee performance on.

I'll send you a PM to gather more details, or please contact me directly by any method.

Thank you,

Brad

2MuchMark · 03-12-2024, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

I haven't seen the humility, but I have witnessed a lot of the "the aforementioned script is hogging your available resources, you need more resources", "it's the script's fault", "we can't find that", etc.

Was this a linux server? Did you have access to the server via SSH or cPanel / Terminal? If so you could have run "top" (or "htop") to check out what's eating up your resources. Then, a simple "kill" command can stop the greedy app and freed-up resources on the spot. If a hosting provider doesn't allow you to SSH (Some don't allow this because they want to maintain a simplified user experience or for support reasons maybe, their tech support should be able to run it for you and send you a screenshot.

jscott · 03-12-2024, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Exactly where did I call myself an expert? No where. Exactly where did I say I am an expert of Mojohost? Nowhere either.
And exactly where did I say that Mojohost is a good hosting provider with a stellar rep? Right here:

Who said anyone was "an expert of Mojohost"? WTF does that even mean?

fris · 03-14-2024, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MrVids

Just wondering what other hosts there are out there to consider other than Mojohost? It's been a while since I've shopped.

something wrong with them, im very happy with them, and 99% of my clients use them.

fris · 03-15-2024, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by czarina

VACARES.com
they're freaking GRRRREAT!

do they still resell google cloud?

i know at the beginning they were dooing ovh.

Sly · 03-15-2024, 01:06 PM

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do they still resell google cloud?

i know at the beginning they were dooing ovh.

We have never resold Google Cloud. And we haven't used OVH in years.

And we've been over this before.

fris · 03-15-2024, 01:37 PM

hivelocity has good vps as well. not sure about adult content though.

$27 8cpu 16gb 320gb ssd, 10tb bandwidth

Sly · 03-15-2024, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fris

hivelocity has good vps as well. not sure about adult content though.

$27 8cpu 16gb 320gb ssd, 10tb bandwidth

You could certainly purchase that from them if you like, but we don't use their hardware either.

robwod · 03-20-2024, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wautier

The real issue here, and the reason so many people being triggered is the tech support that is often cocky...

I've been with Mojohost for several years and, honestly, my experience is quite the opposite. Frankly, they've gone above and beyond for me a few times -- especially in accommodating certain scripts, which is well outside reasonable expectations in a support plan. That's not to diminish your own experience, of course. I can only speak to my own experience. Certainly, I'm thankful my experience has been better.

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hivelocity has good vps as well. not sure about adult content though.
$27 8cpu 16gb 320gb ssd, 10tb bandwidth

I used HiVelocity Dedicated Servers, with adult content, for 6 or 7 years and had no issue at all. I quite liked HiVelocity. However, there came a point where I needed a full-service management option (and no control panel), which HV never offered, and that was the catalyst to making the migration to MOJO. I have no regrets (MOJO might LOL)

To the OP, you can usually find some offers at WebHostingTalk (they have a dedicated offers subsection). Sometimes there are great deals and there are also a lot of reviews of various hosting providers. Several are just resellers, but there are definitely a few gems and deals there at times as well.

fris · 03-20-2024, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by robwod

I've been with Mojohost for several years and, honestly, my experience is quite the opposite. Frankly, they've gone above and beyond for me a few times -- especially in accommodating certain scripts, which is well outside reasonable expectations in a support plan. That's not to diminish your own experience, of course. I can only speak to my own experience. Certainly, I'm thankful my experience has been better.

I used HiVelocity Dedicated Servers, with adult content, for 6 or 7 years and had no issue at all. I quite liked HiVelocity. However, there came a point where I needed a full-service management option (and no control panel), which HV never offered, and that was the catalyst to making the migration to MOJO. I have no regrets (MOJO might LOL)

To the OP, you can usually find some offers at WebHostingTalk (they have a dedicated offers subsection). Sometimes there are great deals and there are also a lot of reviews of various hosting providers. Several are just resellers, but there are definitely a few gems and deals there at times as well.

hivelocity offers full manafgement for a fee now. i manage my own stuff so i dont need that though.

just bought their max vps config, i will see how it does.

i still have my main stuff on mojo.

2MuchMark · 03-20-2024, 02:03 PM

It would be interesting to run a few tests between the hosting providers and see how they all do. What metrics could we use?

Let's say you setup a website at 3 different hosting providers. Each server has to be exactly the same spec when it comes to CPU's Ram, and type of storage.

If you run some kind of load test, they should all perform the same. If they are advertised as the same but secretly are different, this would expose them.

PRO TIP: If you want to know if your hosting company is bullshitting you about the hardware that is running your server, just SSH to your server and run this command :

Code:

sudo lshw

This will tell you everything and then some about the hardware you are paying for.

But let's say they all perform well. What else can each provider be tested on?

Uploading or downloading files would not be a fair test because you would have a different number of hops between each provider, and fluctuations in those hops would cause some latency sometimes. However, a hosting provider that is physically closer to you will always perform better for you when it comes to file transers.

You could setup each server to load exactly the same website with exactly the same assets, and then do a Page load test from Google. This could expose some wierdness, but chances are it would be very minor.

I think that one of the best ways to test hosting providers would be in support. Let's say you purposes "break" those 3 websites, then contact support for each provider. How fast they reply to you and then find and fix the issue should tell you who the clear winner is.

The best possible choice in hosting, is what works for you. I love the idea that TMDHosting.com gives everyone a 1 month free trial, no questions asks. They also give you free support and free cPanel during that time too which to me, is a win-win, win win win. It is why I refer all of my clients to them (again with no affilaite link).

It really pays to think about your hosting requirements. If you have the know-how or the willingness to learn a little bit about how hosting works, you can setup a webserver at the hosting provider of your choice, then setup cheap storage volumes at Linode or AWS for example, saving you a ton of money.

k0nr4d · 03-21-2024, 02:22 AM

If anyone wants to save some money on cpanel, virtualmin/webmin is MUCH better then cpanel and is free...

mrmister · 03-21-2024, 02:46 AM

The issue here is there's tons of providers which have great specs for dirt cheap. It's the policy of adult. You have a big site. Will they decide one day to wipe your server after a false DMCA complaint? Or you have a high traffic cam aggregator and a DMCA complaint takes down your site whilst you get a new host.

ladida · 03-21-2024, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister

The issue here is there's tons of providers which have great specs for dirt cheap. It's the policy of adult. You have a big site. Will they decide one day to wipe your server after a false DMCA complaint? Or you have a high traffic cam aggregator and a DMCA complaint takes down your site whilst you get a new host.

Something along those lines

2MuchMark · 03-21-2024, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

If anyone wants to save some money on cpanel, virtualmin/webmin is MUCH better then cpanel and is free...

True, I forgot about webmin. I haven't used it in a long time. I used to use both webmin and cpanel but found that it was easier to use, and most end users prefered it too. Plus the support is outstanding. I think every hosting provider should offer cpanel.

k0nr4d · 03-22-2024, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

True, I forgot about webmin. I haven't used it in a long time. I used to use both webmin and cpanel but found that it was easier to use, and most end users prefered it too. Plus the support is outstanding. I think every hosting provider should offer cpanel.

Now that you mention it, it's entirely possible that cpanel is friendlier to a "normal" user but I've gotta say... for me personally it's virtualmin or nothing. I can't stand cpanel, plesk, directadmin. All are shit compared to virtualmin/webmin. If I'm to use cpanel i'd rather sit and edit configuration files manually via SSH.

I'll chime in here about hosting as well, as we send alot of customers to hosts. If a customer requires managed hosting, we send them to Mojohost. The support is great, we have a special conduit for contact if we need something done on a customers server, and most importantly - they are very familiar with the adult industry and thus the scripts in it used by website owners. This is where we send almost all customers.

If someone doesn't need managed hosting and can sort out their own backups, or they are on a low budget and just need server setup once without regular management - we send them to leaseweb, ovh, or soyoustart (also OVH but older hardware), or contabo if a VPS will cut it.

If someone is doing something that requires exceptionally high security like a cryptocurrency exchange, or it's an application that would requires cloud storage but where the use of a block storage instead of object storage would be advantageous - we send them to reflected.net. This isn't to say that Mojohost isn't secure - it absolutely is and we've never seen any problems in that regard - but reflected's default server configurations are heavily restricted as far as what can be executed on them.

inabon · 03-22-2024, 11:55 AM

Don´t want to kiss ass but ... yeah fuck it I am goig to kiss ass

I am probably uknown to a lot but you can see my joined gfy date... you can use that date as a refference of the time I have known mojo give or take 4 years max. I have dealt with mojo easy for the past 10+ years. Also my post count as a refference that I really work my ass off instead of chatting on boards lol

Their full managed service is 1 of a kind. I used to do all my server stuff while I was learning. Then after learning I decided to not do it let the real pros do it and they do LOL short from bringing me coffee in the morning I can say that full managed server or vhost with them is the way to go... bad for employees cause you wont need the server guy just the webmaster guy and thats because mojo does not make webpages for you but if they would they would be good at is.

there done my emmy award ass kissing review

MOJO for the win.

Brad wont let me lie. We probably have the record or close to it of the oldest servers in the lot that recently were upgraded.... took us almost a year to do so... not because of mojo, because of our if it aint broken do not fucking touch it policy hahahahaha

Natally Rocks

and their tech support team is the bomb those guys are real pros.

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

Hi TurboB,

Nobody should begrudge you for that choice if it suits your needs and makes you happy, then it's good for you.

Listen, if I had an audience of clients that just wanted unmanaged services and a focus on price, not speed, nor support then I'd be happy to sell at their rates on their volumes, all day long.

Contabo says it has 350,000 servers running (presumably a count of all shared, VPS, cloud, dedicated, etc.) for 180,000 clients managed by "64 highly trained individuals are waiting for your contact. We offer telephone support 365 days a year from 8 am to 11 pm German local time and our agents monitor our support tickets 24 hours a day."

We have just over 50 employees servicing around 2,000 clients... and I can assure you, it's not luxurious staffing, there is always more work than people, and we are very efficient. I've also not heard of a web host that only takes live phone calls during such short EU business hours before, so I applaud Contabo for that.

Selling automated infrastructure and services is easy. If anyone has a brilliant idea on how to create a pipeline for such demand, please apply for a marketing or sales job here. If you can create the demand, I already know that we can deliver faster, cheaper and better for clients who don't require support.

Brad

mainstreammix · 03-22-2024, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MrVids

This is what I get for posting for the first time in 7 years. I titled the thread the way I did so I wouldn't trigger people into posting Mojo 4,194 recommendations.

I know Mojo and I have boxes there which are likely to stay there. I just wanted to know who else people host with these days so I can look around and make sure I have a good feel for what's out there.

Maybe I should have titled it: "We all know Mojo is dope and Brad is great. Are there any other hosts left standing?"

With any luck, this will be my last post until 2031.

You beckoned the wallposter.

2MuchMark · 03-22-2024, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Now that you mention it, it's entirely possible that cpanel is friendlier to a "normal" user but I've gotta say... for me personally it's virtualmin or nothing. I can't stand cpanel, plesk, directadmin. All are shit compared to virtualmin/webmin. If I'm to use cpanel i'd rather sit and edit configuration files manually via SSH.

Even though cPanel lets you do alot of stuff, I prefer installing whatever I need via SSH. It's just cooler somehow, and I love watching it scroll at lightning speeds during some install. Me=nerd.

And yes, that is a good point. cPanel is very friendly. I don't host anything, but I support alot of clients who host their own stuff on various hosting providers. After I show them they can do alot of their own stuff like create email and FTP accounts, issue their own free SSL certificates, add new domains, Install Wordpress, even debug some stuff, they are alot happier, and my support calls go down. Everybody happy.

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I'll chime in here about hosting as well, as we send alot of customers to hosts. If a customer requires managed hosting, we send them to Mojohost. The support is great, we have a special conduit for contact if we need something done on a customers server, and most importantly - they are very familiar with the adult industry and thus the scripts in it used by website owners. This is where we send almost all customers.

If someone doesn't need managed hosting and can sort out their own backups, or they are on a low budget and just need server setup once without regular management - we send them to leaseweb, ovh, or soyoustart (also OVH but older hardware), or contabo if a VPS will cut it.

If someone is doing something that requires exceptionally high security like a cryptocurrency exchange, or it's an application that would requires cloud storage but where the use of a block storage instead of object storage would be advantageous - we send them to reflected.net. This isn't to say that Mojohost isn't secure - it absolutely is and we've never seen any problems in that regard - but reflected's default server configurations are heavily restricted as far as what can be executed on them.

Cool. I refer my adult clients to TMD, but all of my mainstream clients are on Linode, Microsoft Azure or Amazon AWS. I use to love AWS, but lately I am appreciating Azure more and more. My favourite is still Linode though, especially since they just gave me a $300.00 credit!

The only thing I would tell people to be really careful of is getting a VM with some vGPU's if they want to play with AI or Machine Learning. It can end up costing alot of money if they aren't careful. It is better to upgrade your own home PC with a GPU and run LLM's locally than to do it in the cloud...

redwhiteandblue · 03-23-2024, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

If anyone wants to save some money on cpanel, virtualmin/webmin is MUCH better then cpanel and is free...

Can it integrate CSF?

k0nr4d · 03-23-2024, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue

Can it integrate CSF?

Yep https://webmin.com/docs/third-party-...-and-firewall/

03-11-2024, 03:50 PM	#52
redwhiteandblue Bollocks Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bollocks Posts: 2,792	See sig. I'm running a 7900X with 128Gb of 4800MHz RAM, 2x4Tb Crucial NVMe in RAID0, 150Tb bandwidth with a 10Gb port for $139 a month. I couldn't find anything out there to beat that. __________________ Interserver unmanaged AMD Ryzen servers from $73.00

03-11-2024, 04:18 PM	#55
CaptainHowdy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Happy in the dark. Posts: 93,021	Mojo so dope then . . . __________________ FLASH SALE INSANITY! deal with a 100% Trusted Seller Buy Traffic Spots on a High-Quality Network 1 Year or Lifetime — That’s Right, Until the Internet Explodes!

03-12-2024, 01:24 PM	#70
Tasty1 Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South-America Posts: 9,263	Depends what you want to host. For more big adult sites or sites that mustn't go down for even short time i would go for mojo. Or sites that need better knowledge and know the industry. In the mean time i have a lot of domains for sale i want to host instead of redirecting to Sedo /Dan. All html, no databse. That will will do fine on a cheap shared or cloud host. I got some hostinger cloud hosting for 4 years for that. Now must decide where i should set up some mechbunny scripts. __________________ everything is fake

03-15-2024, 01:37 PM	#78
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,262	hivelocity has good vps as well. not sure about adult content though. $27 8cpu 16gb 320gb ssd, 10tb bandwidth __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

03-20-2024, 02:03 PM	#82
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,566	It would be interesting to run a few tests between the hosting providers and see how they all do. What metrics could we use? Let's say you setup a website at 3 different hosting providers. Each server has to be exactly the same spec when it comes to CPU's Ram, and type of storage. If you run some kind of load test, they should all perform the same. If they are advertised as the same but secretly are different, this would expose them. PRO TIP: If you want to know if your hosting company is bullshitting you about the hardware that is running your server, just SSH to your server and run this command : Code: sudo lshw This will tell you everything and then some about the hardware you are paying for. But let's say they all perform well. What else can each provider be tested on? Uploading or downloading files would not be a fair test because you would have a different number of hops between each provider, and fluctuations in those hops would cause some latency sometimes. However, a hosting provider that is physically closer to you will always perform better for you when it comes to file transers. You could setup each server to load exactly the same website with exactly the same assets, and then do a Page load test from Google. This could expose some wierdness, but chances are it would be very minor. I think that one of the best ways to test hosting providers would be in support. Let's say you purposes "break" those 3 websites, then contact support for each provider. How fast they reply to you and then find and fix the issue should tell you who the clear winner is. The best possible choice in hosting, is what works for you. I love the idea that TMDHosting.com gives everyone a 1 month free trial, no questions asks. They also give you free support and free cPanel during that time too which to me, is a win-win, win win win. It is why I refer all of my clients to them (again with no affilaite link). It really pays to think about your hosting requirements. If you have the know-how or the willingness to learn a little bit about how hosting works, you can setup a webserver at the hosting provider of your choice, then setup cheap storage volumes at Linode or AWS for example, saving you a ton of money. __________________ VideoChat Solutions \| Custom Software \| IT Support https://www.2much.net \| https://www.lcntech.com

03-11-2024, 03:36 PM	#51
King Mark So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 27,033	Mojo is my favorite host I ever used. Seriously. With that out of the way, I like when Brad gets emotional on here. Shits hilarious. Fiddy cheers 🤣🥂

03-12-2024, 07:56 AM	#64
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,746	VACARES.com they're freaking GRRRREAT!

03-21-2024, 02:22 AM	#83
k0nr4d Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 9,228	If anyone wants to save some money on cpanel, virtualmin/webmin is MUCH better then cpanel and is free...

03-21-2024, 02:46 AM	#84
mrmister Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,080	The issue here is there's tons of providers which have great specs for dirt cheap. It's the policy of adult. You have a big site. Will they decide one day to wipe your server after a false DMCA complaint? Or you have a high traffic cam aggregator and a DMCA complaint takes down your site whilst you get a new host. __________________ Looking for a link exchange