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a1ka1ine

10-23-2005 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

HA! In January after Ashley pulled an act of incredible ingratitude and irresponsibility that involved both my partner and friend Marco Pallotti - Marco said those very words to me.

and i still cant believe you continued after then, you have way too much patience!

effer

10-23-2005 01:42 PM

Something to blog about.

Mutt	10-23-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GetNaughty

WTF?

Mutt didnt get 50% or a % of the site? You made a big mistake Ash. And yes, he needs to be repaid. If he wasnt such a great guy he would launch a site with his content I bet and then he could make his money back.

this isn't about money - never was, never will be. this is about CHARACTER.
i told Ashley a year ago I would never make a dime off her naked butt and that's the way it will remain.

tapatio

10-23-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Can anyone tell me where "Teen Kelly" is right now?

Silvercash?

xlogger

10-23-2005 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

How old is this little girl? Cant be older than me.

She makes $600/day? Wtfffffffff, thats more than what i make.

But after all this bullshit, i bet the $ will go way down. Which means i will be making more than her. :1orglaugh

Young

10-23-2005 01:42 PM

By the way both sides are responding to this. It almost seems like it goes deeper than just business issues. hope you guys get it figured out.

Mutt	10-23-2005 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by effer

Something to blog about.

there is a full account of this saga ready to be published - i won't do that to Ashley - unless I am given another moment of stress from her over this entire affair.

bigdog

10-23-2005 01:47 PM

mutt have you offered ashley to buy the pics from you?

tapatio

10-23-2005 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

Affiliate payouts of 50%

Anna_O

10-23-2005 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tapatio

Affiliate payouts of 50%

He said it was Net.

sonofsam

10-23-2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

justsexxxx: i run a solo site and i know of other solo site owners... and i can tell you 20 joins a day is not only good, but its great.... :2 cents:

Drake

10-23-2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

But he said NET, so I assume that's after 50% affiliate payout, hosting, etc.

Drake

10-23-2005 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

this isn't about money - never was, never will be. this is about CHARACTER.
i told Ashley a year ago I would never make a dime off her naked butt and that's the way it will remain.

I didn't know people like you existed.... especially in this industry.

LexiLexxx

10-23-2005 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

By the way both sides are responding to this. It almost seems like it goes deeper than just business issues. hope you guys get it figured out.

Bingo!!!!!

Get your girls under contracts....both parties.

Shoot'em and let them go, if you choose, both parties.

Don't mix business with pleasure....both parties.

Don't get to greedy about the $$...both parties.

I have even seen this from a Female webmasters/with single solo girl sites, as well.

Whoa...tough business!

tapatio

10-23-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Anna_O

He said it was Net.

yes that is why it would be more than 20 sales a day

Sly	10-23-2005 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

110.000USD in let's say 6 months?

is 18333 per month /30 days a month is 600USD a day...like 20 joins a day?

That is not good, or did I miss something?

How is $110k in 6 months "not good"? Ok, so she isn't the CEO of IBM earning many millions of dollars a year... but how can someone ever consider $110k in 6 months "not good"?

justsexxx

10-23-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

justsexxxx: i run a solo site and i know of other solo site owners... and i can tell you 20 joins a day is not only good, but its great.... :2 cents:

Uhm okay. Then it's great :Oh crap I know we won't be happy when we would do 20 a day with our solo sites...

Shoehorn!

10-23-2005 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

this isn't about money - never was, never will be. this is about CHARACTER.
i told Ashley a year ago I would never make a dime off her naked butt and that's the way it will remain.

That's definately a VERY rare quality in a person. It's too bad you got fucked over, but at least GFY now sees each person for who they are.

sonofsam

10-23-2005 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Uhm okay. Then it's great :Oh crap I know we won't be happy when we would do 20 a day with our solo sites...

i love your sites... they are amazing, so its no suprise you do so well with them :)

but i can personally say i would be happy as hell to have 20signups/day on julia blue :thumbsup

Mutt	10-23-2005 01:59 PM

i know the single girl niche - more than I did a year ago that's for sure - her site did GREAT. And with the proper attention and responsibility the sky was the limit for Ashley. A $300,000 a year income for herself for 2-3 years, possibly more but I realize that Ashley isn't a 30 or 40 year male, so I told her I don't expect her to live the life many of us do - 6 hours a day 5 days a week of concentrated work is all i would ever ask of her - and she'd be smilin' - because as models go - she is 'special'.

I watched with an ever growing sick feeling in my stomach watch her begin to just let it all go down the drain. And I never gave up - http://www.ashcash.net/the_new_ashcash - this was completed after 4 days work from me, just a few weeks ago, the programmer was ready to get going on it - i woke up the next morning to find an email in my inbox from a concerned member/friend of Ashley's - he wanted to let me know that Ashley once again had promised to do something and it apparently hadn't been done - it was the first time i had been in her members area in awhile so i took a look around - there I found on her messageboard a nice little note that Ashley had decided to cancel YET ANOTHER camshow - she does one camshow a week - she was too busy with other things for the camshow. I had had enough. I realized at that moment nothing would ever change with Ashley this time around.

AshleyBrookes

10-23-2005 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

there is a full account of this saga ready to be published - i won't do that to Ashley - unless I am given another moment of stress from her over this entire affair.

Mutt, I'm not trying to cause you any more stress. I would like to work things out. I'm talking to your programmer about payment right now.

AshleyBrookes

10-23-2005 02:04 PM

Mutt - how much do you want for the content of me that you own?

justsexxx

10-23-2005 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

Mutt - how much do you want for the content of me that you own?

DOn't you have his phone/email? Jeez how sad

MaDalton

10-23-2005 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

Yes Mutt, you guys were great in a business sense. I don't know where I would be without you - but it was not the business side of things that broke this up. I can't ever repay you for the time and effort you put into my site, but I will try...
After finally making the decision to go my own way, which was a very hard decision - I have had to look back at all the things you really did on the business side and I'm very greatful...but I need to be on my own and really learn and understand what it takes to make a site workable. I have talked to a lot of people and have recieved a lot of great advice from all of you - and thank you guys so much!
When all this started, I didn't really see how much work was really going on.
Mutt, I would love to find some way to repay you for all your hard work. Maybe I can send you all my exit traffic or something - but I really need to start looking at this as a business and taking care of it myself.
Yes, Mutt, you built a great foundation, but we know that's not the issue. I would be happy to discuss ways I can help you as a repayment in strictly a business manner.
AshCash and AshleyBrookes are now strictly under my control. Something like this will never happen again. I am really excited to work with those of you that stay with me and look forward to having fun coming up with new things to help you guys make more money!
My ICQ will be open to all affiliates, I'd love to hear your ideas on what you need to make more money.

with this bullshit you are a perfect example why people like you shoudn't be involved in the business and just get their ass in front of the camera. you just ruined your life, your career and did a huge damage to the single girl niche in general. it would be the best you switch off your computer and apply for a job at McDonalds. thank you

and Mutt: sorry to read that, man. i feel for you :(

LiveDose

10-23-2005 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Some things have come up and I'm asking all of my affiliates to please remove all links to my site. I'm sorting a copyright situation with some of my content. I'm also taking this opportunity to switch to NATS.
Hang in there! The site will be bigger and better once it's back up within the week and I'll also be offering a higher percentage for a while, so take advantage of it! You'll also have brand new promotional material to work with. I also plan on taking requests for fan signs (video and/or pictures)from all my active affiliates. I'll be sending out an email once everything is up and running. Stay tuned!

Jeez, no way I ever gonna promote a site again, that is asking to remove ALL links. What a joke

Just read that email too. Fuckin' so casual about it. Annoying as hell. :disgust

Dirty Dane

10-23-2005 02:08 PM

I dont get this. There are no copyright on links, is it? If new site is up soon, it will be easier for some of us to just change the links then... and redirect the 10k SE traffic until then :)

AshleyBrookes

10-23-2005 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

DOn't you have his phone/email? Jeez how sad

I know that would be the best way - but I want it perfectly clear that I'm trying to resolve this issue.

sltr	10-23-2005 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Uhm okay. Then it's great :Oh crap I know we won't be happy when we would do 20 a day with our solo sites...

Zing! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Mutt	10-23-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

Mutt - how much do you want for the content of me that you own?

Ashley Ashley Ashley - you more than ANYBODY know this was not about money. you were not built a site and a program to make you as much money as possible - that was PART of it - but only a part of it. I don't work for ANYBODY - i have offers all the time to design, build, create for others - they are all turned down.

you go home and you begin the process of growing up finally.

MadCat

10-23-2005 02:11 PM

links removed, you fucking cunt

:321GFY

Fletch XXX

10-23-2005 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

dude just sell her the content so us affiliates can move the fuck on and leave this personal bullshit out???

justsexxx

10-23-2005 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sltr

Zing! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What you mean sir? You agree on me? Or?

Sly	10-23-2005 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

dude just sell her the content so us affiliates can move the fuck on and leave this personal bullshit out???

I agree. I don't see why Ashley can't buy the content, design, programming, or whatever. It may be a pride issue, a lesson to be taught, whatever... people ARE getting fucked on this deal. It would be nice if Ashley could just keep the site up.

AshleyBrookes

10-23-2005 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

I know Mutt - it's the other part that I don't agree with and never did.
Sorry guys - I guess I take the site down for a week.

bigdog

10-23-2005 02:20 PM

Mutt were most of her signups from affilates, or inhouse? If they are mostly from affilates she is going to have a hard time coming back

Fletch XXX

10-23-2005 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Precisely and its how this is handled now that will count.

She offered to buy and I think we would all rather just not have this personal issues shit cost us money.

Whomever chooses to fuck all of us affiliates over, will not be forgotten. SOmeone needs to set this shit right.

And fuck pride, and leave your personal bullshit at the door.

sltr	10-23-2005 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

What you mean sir? You agree on me? Or?

yup, totally agree :thumbsup

Easton

10-23-2005 02:23 PM

wow, this is pretty surreal

justsexxx

10-23-2005 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sltr

yup, totally agree :thumbsup

Okay :-) Well it's funny to see how many joins certain so called "big" sponsors do anyway :)

sltr	10-23-2005 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by justsexxx

Okay :-) Well it's funny to see how many joins certain so called "big" sponsors do anyway :)

exactly :winkwink:

webgurl

10-23-2005 02:25 PM

mutt- question , what are you going to do with ashley's content anyways
if you don't offer it back to her ?
Hope you are not keeping it for cruel intentions :(

Mutt	10-23-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

I know Mutt - it's the other part that I don't agree with and never did.
Sorry guys - I guess I take the site down for a week.

i know you never agreed with the other part - and that's why you are where you are right now. you are 22 years old and haven't done an honest day's work in years - maybe ever. you use people, you discard people, you are a spoiled brat. i told you that these people called 'affiliates' are YOUR partners - they put a TON of work into what they do and they expect YOU to do the same for them. Now you tell everybody on GFY or send out an affiliate mailing and tell them what you did for the past year - and more importantly for the past 7 months while you took their traffic. Tell them where you were when they came to me on ICQ asking 'Did Ashley put me on ignore?' 'Where's Ashley? I dont see her around anymore" "I emailed Ashley six times but I get no replies" Tell AmateurIndex where their tshirt fan pics are, tell Spunky where his thong pics are, tell FreeOnes where there logo photoset is .................. and it goes on and on and on ........

tragedy

10-23-2005 02:29 PM

Hmmm. Is Ashley just another flaky model or is she making a powerplay?

2Pac	10-23-2005 02:39 PM

there will be no happy ending in this movie :pimp

Kard63

10-23-2005 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AshleyBrookes

I know Mutt - it's the other part that I don't agree with and never did.

But she temporarily agreed to use yoru ass? Is that what this means?

mn	10-23-2005 02:41 PM

The few links I had = removed. Site added to blacklist on my TGP:s (because I care for my submitters).

LexiLexxx

10-23-2005 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MadCat

links removed, you fucking cunt

:321GFY

That was uncalled for man...that should be a stike 1, some of your stuff is really borderline :-(

Juicy D. Links

10-23-2005 02:43 PM

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Pleasurepays

10-23-2005 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LexiLexxx

If it wasn't for Models, where would most of you be working? Mainstream?

thats a typically female perspective. There are ALWAYS models and NO MODEL is special. You're just a commodity that is bought, sold and traded... end of story. What makes a girl special is when she realizes this, she is mature, she is easy to work with, she shows up on time and she realizes that she needs everyone around her to make it work. Its not like there is a shortage of girls who will get naked on a site.

justsexxx

10-23-2005 02:51 PM

I agree, it's not only the "model" that matters, even so important is the marketing...

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