200...,......

hahaha no shit !

Chris - nothing expected - just for her to live by her word and have the skills and work ethic to run with what was given to her. But I couldnt get out of it - there were now hundreds of affiliates and she couldnt and still can't make a simple HTML page - and had shown very little work ethic - if I had just said 'here ya go Ashley - run with it' - the whole thing would have collapsed fast - and i just couldnt let that happen - all the way along I thought/hoped that once she actually had a site of her own she'd finally grasp that this was a great thing and finally 'get it'.

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BVF: who gives a fuck, i have 2 years of content :)

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Lets give the mad some pussy and get this shit over with then.

Is anyone else getting a sense of severe bullshit in this thread?

what he said

thats because youre a fucking imbecile who has never been nor ever will be in the loop on this or any other situation.

A highly interesting thread..... it amazes me that certain contracts are not excersized... or is that just me?
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But I bet he doesn't work for free... :thumbsup

All of you must know at least one woman who has men come over and fix shit in her house or wash her car or bring food over or does whatever little chores that some cute girl with a nice personality asks for....And of course, they want ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in return for it....And if the woman were to actually offer some pussy, the chivalrous man would TURN DOWN that pussy because it just wouldn't be right...He's only doing it because she's his FRIEND.....**umm humm**

Out of the pure goodness of the man's heart, he just wants to help a female do her thing and GIVE her what she needs to accomplish this...Meanwhile, the same man walks right past a fat MALE ugly homeless slob on the street and doesn't offer as much as a dollar to help him out and doesn't give TWO SHITS whether or not he can "help his family out"...

Mutt since the intent was just to help Ashley, you shouldn't get bent out of shape over this fiasco.

You're a professional. You know the typical ego progression with most girls that run solo sites. Can't blame them, same thing happens in Hollywood when stars get hot. That's the nature of the fame business. Its to be expected. Doesn't make anyone a bad person or mean they have a big ego. It just means they take a new perspective on their business.

And its fine to argue points, but its not cool to post her personal income.

You both should have had written agreements on the deal. This was clearly going to be a successful venture and no doubt success always brings disagreements between partners. Never fails. So you both screwed up by not doing business the right way.

When I was first getting into business a guy told me a great motto to live by, so shit just like this doesn't waste any more of your time than it has to. And its a real simple one.

FWN

(Fuck 'em Who's Next!)

I also agree with Young... still in sig?

AMEN..... :2 cents:

One of the funniest posts I have read in a long time

BlingDaddy - I'll tell you the same thing I told other people who begged me to get a contract with Ashley. Number one - because of TNACash I never wanted to be seen to make a dime off AshleyBrookes, that's stealing a model - so what's left - a contract obligating a girl to do a certain amount of work like an employee on her own site? I told them if that's necessary then the whole thing is a failure right now - so I told them I will put my faith in Ashley that one day in the not too distant future she would fullfill her end of the bargain.

A year ago it was explained to Ashley that this was NOT a sugar daddy gift - I wasn't a sugar daddy and I expected nothing sugar daddies want - so she was going to be just like any guy I might help out - honor your commitment fully or ............

I don't know, call me crazy but I don't wake up every day thinking the following:
"I feel so good I just spent a year making no money helping a 21 year old girl make a fucking assload of cash on her site. That's why I am alive. I am not in business to make money myself, I am here for the young girls. To help them out and make them money. I do it ALL for the LOVE of the girls."

Yeah. I totally believe your story. You're all in it because you're a good guy. You wanted nothing out of it from day 1. I will believe that when I start taking cock in the ass.

im guilty of being too nice at times..oh well..youll sleep well at night..haha

Nikki Nevada, Ashely Brookes, UGH. Won't bother again.

That that was extremely fucked up. This is how I see it going: to court, with Mutt walking away with his tail between his legs.

All she needs to do is print out this thread which he states over and over that he did it for free, not wanting anthing in return, and I am sure there are emails with the same.

Plus I am more than sure that since there was no contract, he probably didn't get model releases everytime he shot her, so there goes his complete ownership of the photos.

Then I am also sure she could also prove that there was a verbal agreement and that he knowing shot her with the intent to use the photos on her site.

But, that's just how I see it going, I could be wrong.

I don't know why you are all blaming Ashley, it is Mutt, afterall, that is causing her the problems which in turn is causing her to make the change.

Maybe he should realize that when you expect or want nothing in return, that's what you usually end up with, and be happy that he got what he says he wanted, nothing.


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imbecile - i have made more money in this business than you will make in your entire life - because you are a loser. If Ashley had done 50% of what she was supposed to do on her end I would have had done what I could and had to do in 3 months - that was the original target date for her - December 2004. I had two options - either finish the project or not - unlike your worthless ass I finish everything I start.

If you believe that, your working with 1 brain cell.

Really, what IS your point?

"she would fullfill her end of the bargain" this is the silver lining.. What exactly is her end of the bargain?

Wow! so you are causing all of this drama to teach her a lesson? You might need a chill pill.

Hey Mutt, why not threaten to come beat me up now? You're crazy as balls and that is showing pretty fast here today. I could care less how much you are worth $ wise. Your life is pretty sad if you need to keep trying to justify why you did all this free work based on principle for a young blonde chick.

I can't see how anyone can see your side of the story making any sense.

Come on Mutty, why not tell me how you really feel?

no idiot - i never said in this thread that everything was free - other than a camera and $750 - she was told in no uncertain times there were conditions she had to live up to - an 'implied license' to use the content provided for her.

her decision to switch to NATS was hers - she did NOT have to shut her site down for ONE moment over content issues - the content wasnt pulled down the moment I threw in the towel for ONE reason - because I didnt want ANY affiliates to suffer financially.

:1orglaugh Maybe you're the one with 1 brain cell. Read the post I was quoting and check the sarcasm closing brackets.

some people are so quick to say stupid shit. :thumbsup

Now, call me an idiot again, cuz it makes me all warm and fuzzy...
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no more no less than any real webmaster on this board - she wanted her own website and affiliate program - take care of it like anybody else would - learn the skills, sacrifice the time, put in the effort - the original deal was 6 hours a day 5 days a week - is that too much?

LOL I love when white trash think they can be 'cute' or 'deceptive' and post things like that. Just reading it makes me nausious..

You still haven't answered the question as to why you are still flying her sig.

Mutt,

I am pretty unbiased and sort of just wasting time reading this thread. But you need to relax and look at this. You did this for free. She was a lazy beetch. Why hold her hostage? Why not let it go and watch it fall. Dragging it down kicking and screaming in public is not that cool.

oh - because i didn't even realize it was in my sig, don't look at my sig or anybody else's much - and it really doesnt matter one way or the other.

Dude, if you really did it expecting nothing, then just let it be. If the things are like you say they are, then obviously she will fail with the site anyway. Why the unnecessary drama that just hurts affiliates?

Just give her the content and forget the whole thing *shrug*

I know how to start a good topic:)

And I'm kinda shocked how it is going. I expected at least some contracts etc..

I don't work for free, to GAIN friends. However, I do work for free FOR friends..Huge difference there...

BradM,

Mutt is indeed a good guy. He's helped out many people. I know grown men he's helped out for free. I seriously doubt he wanted their cock for his help. Not everyone is after the dollar. As rare as the may be, some people like the satisfaction of helping others.

After reading for about 30 minutes now, I'm also wondering the same thing.

Then why does he own everything? Free was pretty spendy.

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i'm not holding her hostage - she took this action on her own - i would NEVER do any harm to her affiliates. I had no clue she was going to send out that email - this is a NATS thing. All her stuff works.

I had my chance to pull her content down - i did not do it.

Damn dude...that was a great post!!!

Gotcha, then I misunderstood the issue. Sorry for thread bumps.

wow this thread was sad from the begining then its more sad learning Mutt is doing this to please some blonde. You can twist it all you want but its pretty clear what you're trying to do. I feel bad that you got rip off but you got whats comming to you, shes probably feel you are too needy and probably feel like you are trying to get something out of her. She would probably feel easier knowing that you are in it for money rather then some unkown reason you're trying to help her. Hopefully you learn from this.

Thats why I just pay them off I will never ever do a partnership with amodel again learned my lesson.

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ROTFLMAO

I'm trying to avoid this situation as much as I can other than Ashley being a client of ours as I have respect for you and from what I know of Ashley so far she seems like a good person also.

However, you have a very valid reason in not wanting her to use NATS in that you don't want any affiliate to loose any money. I resepect that completely. If there were a way for her to move to NATS and for no affiliate to loose any money would you be willing to work with her more to resolve the issues there are?

Just a thought to try to calm the situation some if that is your only concern over her moving to a NATS based affiliate program.

Pathetic spam attempt

because even while I was ready to help this girl out - soon i could see it was going to be more help than I originally thought - I urged her, begged her to find solutions - when I began to see how this was going to go and money was going to have to spent then I made sure that she understood that if I'm going to spend money, put in the time then shes going to be expected to fulfill her obligations and there would be no outright GIFTS.