OWNED. Great business move.

The part I still do not understand after reading this whole thread is WHY mutt worked so hard for no profit, just for this chick.

The only answer could be that the guy was in love with her?

Anyway respect for you Mutt, sorry to hear you got dissed like this. Ashley will lose more with this move than she could possibly imagine.

Good luck Mutt.

Perfecto :thumbsup

Please do not even being to try to somehow blame this on us.

She got some big asssss tittiaaaaaaaas.

you are an artistic genius..

you should have been an nfl announcer..you could probably work magic with a teleprompter..

all the current CCBILL linking codes to her tours and her FHGs and POTDs work. its up to her and NATS, meaning you, to see that they still do.

I sent Ashley an email yesterday warning her that any NEW galleries she puts up with content I own copyright to were not for her to use.

end of story on that.

10 pages of arguing and its time to give this thread a spritz.

http://www.dutyfreeperfume.co.uk/dfp...large/1158.jpg

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I still think she is in for the best month ever on her site. All those 404 affiliate links will go to one place, ashleybrookes.com homepage and she gets 100% of the cash for that.

And Mutt, I've been in these friendlike obligations before and know how they go - never good. Admittingly I've never made such a kick ass site for a girl like you did, but whatever.

All in all, this has been the most interesting thing I have read all day. I will now go shoot myself because I am pathetic.

:1orglaugh Best one yet!

i'm not blaming NATS the company or the software - it is a HUGE decision for a program to make changes to an affiliate program - she should have considered everything in full before sending that email out.

Ok..I'am sorry, I jumped on that so quick...

I seen the sarcasm quote, but I wasn't sure if it was a joke or not.
I should have said, are you serious or joking?

sorry

Please don't "end of story" me :)

You have stated a few times in this thread that NATS is your problem with this whole thing as it will somehow screw affiliates.

You have never once spoken with us about what can and can't be done to make sure affiliates continue to receive credit.

Ashely could very easily let the ccbill program continue to run, rebill members, pay affiliates, give credit for new signups, allow existing links to function, etc. however you told her that she is not allowed to use the content that those FHGs, and her site consist of (at least this is what I gather based on what I've read here and what she has told me).

This has NOTHING to do with what NATS can and can't do as far as affiliates getting credit so I say again. Please don't even being to try to blame this on us.

lol, that's not nice

i'm going to start a hentai paysite... and i'm going to do all the drawings myself :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Thank you. It had seemed you thought we were somehow responsible for affilaites getting credit or not. Like I said above. She can easily make the move without screwing a single person. Many programs have done so and I'm sure many more will. It's up to the parties actually involved with the site to determine if they are willing or not.

You need to start signing your work :)

heck id buy the content!

This was probably what Ashley was expecting :rasta :Graucho :Graucho

http://www.adultcreation.com/ashley.jpg

This is some lame ass fucking shit. From what I gather, Mutt expected a certain commitment from Ashley (to work 5 hours/day, 5 days/week) and Ashley refused. Then Ashley got greedy and decided she is not only a model, but an entrepreneur as well. So now Ashley decides she will run her site and affiliate program all on her own, without Mutt. Ashley, have you lost your fucking mind? How do you expect to run your site and affiliate program on your own, when you are not even willing to put in 25 hours/week of work?

with a wig and some dark lighting i could even do the cam shows..

this is true - everything she has currently works and can continue to work - even with the content/design issues she had more than enough time to get her ass to work and get new tours made, and enough content to make a go of it - she owns some of her own content and if she really was serious about her business she'd have a ton more content - she found a photographer - go for it.

no affiliate was going to be hurt on my account - but the days of accomodating Ashley were over 3 weeks ago. She knew that - she had time to come up with solutions before sending this email out.

now that would be hot. :1orglaugh

mutt can you icq me

11403900 if you have time.

It's ok :thumbsup I'm still wondering why Mutt is still flying her sig. I know he doesn't give a fuck about the questions I have to ask...but why all this free publicity? But maybe it doesn't matter since shes switching anyways.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

LOL at least someone gets what is really going on here.

Mutt, I am sorry to hear that Ashley doesn't feel the same way about you. :(

hahahahah platinumpimp

ownt! :1orglaugh

I'm trying to avoid the actual argument and disagreement here as much as possible as the only two who know the full story are Ashley and yourself. It's not my place to pass judgement on either of your or say who was right or wrong as I'll never know exactly what went down. You could be right. She could be right.

The only thing I'm here to comment on is how the transition to our software will work. Are you saying she can continue to run her ccbill program on her own as it has been run so that the affiliates do not need to pull down their links and can receive credit for pending rebills, new sales on the old links, etc.?

Also, as I said you did not ask us I should also state that she did not ask us if her ccbill program could continue to run in the background as her new NATS based program comes online. She may have had the thought that she had to kill the ccbill based program for some reason and that may be why she sent the email. She should have spoken with us and you about it prior. All that can be done now is to try to best preserve the credit affiliates deserve for the links they have to her now.

for my first paysite.. its not "ownt" at all.

i have 2 new sites coming out by the end of the month also, so suck my nut

p.s. if i knew what site you ran, i'd take a peak at it and find something wrong with it also :1orglaugh

You're one of the hardest working quickest learning people I've seen around here lately. Don't let them get to you :)

thanks bro :thumbsup

You dont need to defend yourself. Your stuff speaks for itself. :thumbsup

the old affiliate links will work and i explicitly in that email I sent her referred to NEW hosted galleries she was planning to go up with content shot for me of her.

she took this action today on her own - there was NO reason for affiliates to be drawn into this.

That I can of course understand. Perhaps there was some confusion between her, yourself, what she can and can't do, etc. I'll speak with her some asap to find out exactly what she wants to do with the ccbill program and run it by you if that is ok with you.

In my experience, the hardest working quickest learning people are mainly lurkers and keep their business private. That might be why you dont notice them.

i have no doubt Mutt was extra good to you.

I can agree with that. I'm sure there are many hard working quick learning people that I haven't seen also. :)

Had to highlight that very very important question!

dude, I was only joking. don't take everything so personal. this is gfy

Sorry to hear that mate

i couldn't tell you were joking... and its hard not to take offense when you put so much work into something.... julia blue herself is a bitch, and i could care less if people think shes ugly... but doesn't mean there arn't people out there who find her hot and are willing to sign up for her site... and as long as there are those people out there... i will continue promoting her site :2 cents: but when people knock the site it offends me... not because of me caring about julia blue and how hot she is.. but because of the amount of time trying to make my first paysite work

cheers

A 110K in 6 months time is not much at all, after bills she prolly has half that left

what bills are you talking about? bills associated with running a website? puh-leeze - inconsequential

another fucked up model wanting more.. links pulled.

Good luck Ashley, I wish you well.

Why is it so hard for GFY people to believe, that people help people
without expecting sex or money in return. KARMA

I have gave advice to several people in the industry, and have NEVER asked
for anything in return. Niko, can vouch for me on this.

I seen all this coming from day one, but I think Mutt not did it to help, but also
lost a ton of money, that was to be re-paid. I know he never wanted a percent, or any cash, (beyond what was a loan), or a relationship. As far as I know Mutt has never even met Ashley.

I do know, that Mutt has pinned Ashley's character as exactly as the person she is....

OK i just read the whole fuckin thread

I totally understand becasue I have been through it many times

I respect Mutt it's not Nats fault

this totally has to do with an ungratefull young girl who will lose everything she never built to begin with..

Don't give her the content let her start on her own :2 cents:

for those affiliates losing money why even support someone like her?

shit once i switch a link i switch for live

So whats it gonna take to fix this issue?