Serious-Partners has underaged non 2257 content [pls read DRAMA] - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

DutchTeenCash · 11-02-2007, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gclouds

You *NEVER* bought my content and you tell here I'm produce it without releases and IDs? Strange guy.

learn to read english troll

you said you delivered content for that particular Serious Partners site. That site has many many vids on it without releases and IDs. Like someone else posted its all STOLEN newgroup content.

And YOU posted you supplied content for that site. Thus youre ok with delivering content to a program that does that. But hey youre Russian too, so wtf do you care, Im sure you belong to the same company as they do and couldnt care less bout whatever law.

gclouds · 11-02-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

learn to read english troll

learn rules of the etiquette

DutchTeenCash · 11-02-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gclouds

learn rules of the etiquette

hahaha the troll knows a fancy word.

Go back supplying content to a program that doesnt care bout IDs stolen content and releases: Serious Partners

minusonebit · 11-02-2007, 05:58 PM

Too late for a siggy spot?

DutchTeenCash · 11-02-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit

Too late for a siggy spot?

never too late when it comes to a program that deals with sites that use stolen non ID non release content on their sites: Serious Partners

TurboAngel · 11-02-2007, 06:00 PM

DutchTeenCash · 11-02-2007, 06:04 PM

12 hrs and the DDOS is still here

pocketkangaroo · 11-02-2007, 06:18 PM

Sorry about the problems, a DDOS is never fun. I do appreciate the heads up on these guys. Was actually having some of our guys put up links to their security cam site next week. Made sure to pull the plug on that, don't deal with companies who do that kind of stuff (DDOS, threats, etc).

DirtyProfits · 11-02-2007, 06:48 PM

DutchTeenCash is absolutely right with everything he said! This Hanna video first appeared on http://totallycrap.com/ and as far as I know they "own" the copyright to that video and yes she was underage when that video was shot. I have read that on an online news site back then.

gclouds what you are trying to do here is ridiculous and just proves DutchTeenCash right. Everybody with an IQ above 80 can identify your tactic here and because we all did something like that when we went to primary school. So just STFU please!

gclouds · 11-02-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyProfits

DutchTeenCash is absolutely right with everything he said! This Hanna video first appeared on http://totallycrap.com/ and as far as I know they "own" the copyright to that video and yes she was underage when that video was shot. I have read that on an online news site back then.

gclouds what you are trying to do here is ridiculous and just proves DutchTeenCash right. Everybody with an IQ above 80 can identify your tactic here and because we all did something like that when we went to primary school. So just STFU please!

My tactic is very simply. Before someone tell some about anothers he must have proof. Online news site is good source for information, but it's not good source for legal proof. No more in my posts here. Thanks.
And DutchTeenCash has not deals with me. But he told I produce content without releases and IDs. Is he right? Is he saw my content or have bad info about me? If not then I'm waiting for apologies.

RawAlex · 11-02-2007, 07:06 PM

You guys need to learn - if CCBill is the processor, you need to DMCA them as well as the site. If the site doesn't act, CCBill in effect has to act for them, or risk being liable.

If your content is on the site without permission, DMCA CCBill, get their processing pulled, and the problem will solve itself very quickly.

papill0n · 11-02-2007, 07:06 PM

any response from serious partners ?

thonglife · 11-03-2007, 08:50 AM

Dutchteencash.. contact Interpol or something... links have been dead for some time now.

viroman · 11-03-2007, 08:59 AM

BUMP BUMP BUMP
Russian Program

RawAlex · 11-03-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

any response from serious partners ?

I would have to say that Dutch Teen Cash is getting a very solid response from someone...

jeffrey · 11-03-2007, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

ANYONE asking for an ID of one of girls with a valid reason gets them. Have you checked their site? Do you really think any of these vids have IDs or releases?

See I have a slight problem with this comment. I know the owner in question is in Russia, but for now thats not important. I want to say that Myself as a Canadian would see jail time for complying with 2257, or showing anyone the ID of one of my models. That said I do have ID's and releases, so me saying I cant show them does not mean they are underage or that I do not have them.

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

fairness? wow so you support sites that show pics and vids without releases and IDs

CP is one thing, and you can report that and have the proper authorities look into it.
ID's and releases... That can get sticky depending on where the owner is from as I mentioned. And with that, do you email every program asking to see a copy of the release and ID's befor you promote them?

Sometimes an obvious illegal, or rather grey area, action isnt all it cracks up to be. You have to hit them on the things you know are illegal, that being the stolen content from yourself or other owners that you KNOW have the proper documents to enforce their ownership of said content.

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

You guys need to learn - if CCBill is the processor, you need to DMCA them as well as the site. If the site doesn't act, CCBill in effect has to act for them, or risk being liable.

If your content is on the site without permission, DMCA CCBill, get their processing pulled, and the problem will solve itself very quickly.

Good post

I agree.

All that said, DTC, your a good guy, I enjoyed meeting you in Phoenix, but I think your going about this the wrong way.
Sucks about the DDOS, hopefully your host can do something to try and filter it. And hopefully this all gets resolved quickly.

jscott · 11-03-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

any response from serious partners ?

yea i'd like to see what they have to say

stev0 · 11-03-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

"Absolutely naked pretty nude teen is getting her fit body filmed, showing to camera her firm globes and trimmed pussy."

Nothing there that mentions hard core and simple nudity does not constitute CP.

Maybe they do have CP and maybe they don't......So far, I see no proof even if that girl was 15, THAT is not considered CP by law.

With that said......I don't think a nude 15 year old should be allowed but I am not the one who wrote the laws that permit such things.

If the images are on a site with other hardcore porn it changes things.

B_Maverick · 11-03-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Wait, CCbill will not put up with this and after a few DMCA's and stolen content issues CCbill will terminate the account. Content producers just actually submit a valid DMCA to CCbill (most never do) that talks about "THIER" content. Then CCbill will make them proove ownership/usage rights or take it down. Repeat offenses are not that tolerated with CCbill either.

Ask them or get a hold of Corvette and talk to him if you have doubts. CCbill has always been content producer friendly, you just need to serve them properly and about your own material. They can not just guess, assume, nor monitor every single site that they process for.

I had one of my affiliate accounts suspended by ccbill because the program had a girl who's parents complained to someone that she was underage. The site took down the girl, and I had to beg ccbill to re-instate my account.

So...evidently, ccbill takes underage content very seriously.

thonglife · 11-03-2007, 03:32 PM

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I had one of my affiliate accounts suspended by ccbill because the program had a girl who's parents complained to someone that she was underage. The site took down the girl, and I had to beg ccbill to re-instate my account.
So...evidently, ccbill takes underage content very seriously.

They suspended your affiliate account because the paysite owner fucked up? What site was this? I've never heard of that one but I believe that could happen I suppose.

Also..Is this really a DDOS attack or did something else happen? The server is unresolvable. I remember being the victim of a reflected DDOS attack (worse than your normal DDOS because the packet headers are being spoofed) for like a week once but the routes could still be traced. I'm wondering if they got hacked?

dig420 · 11-03-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

You guys need to learn - if CCBill is the processor, you need to DMCA them as well as the site. If the site doesn't act, CCBill in effect has to act for them, or risk being liable.

If your content is on the site without permission, DMCA CCBill, get their processing pulled, and the problem will solve itself very quickly.

I'd say a VERY convincing case has been made that there is indeed underage content on their sites. In fact I'd say it was proven.

If I was ccbill I wouldn't be waiting for a DCMA.

People that send traffic to clown programs like this deserve whatever evil shit happens to them.

B_Maverick · 11-03-2007, 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=thonglife;13326962]They suspended your affiliate account because the paysite owner fucked up? What site was this? I've never heard of that one but I believe that could happen I suppose.[QUOTE]

Yes...it is a big well known site. I'd rather not mention the name, but they are very reputable. The bottom line is that they gave me some gallery content for a particular girl. Long after I posted the gallery, the girls parents came along (pissed off that she was posing, obviously), and made the claim that the girl was underage. One of my galleries was evidently shown to ccbill along with the parents claim.

Long story short...the site took down all of their sets of this girl...I deleted all of the galleries of this girl...and ccbill calmed down. But only after the site told ccbill that they had supplied the content to me.

Now...perhaps the site had docs and this is what caused ccbill to chill out...but their initial reaction was swift.

I don't blame them at all. Pretty much everyone got caught in the middle of the dispute between the girl and her parents, I guess.

DamageX · 11-03-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

any response from serious partners ?

Well, http://www.dutchteencash.com is finally up...

bobby666 · 11-04-2007, 12:50 AM

where are the usual serious partners signatures which are always bumping the threads now ?

DWB · 11-04-2007, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Wait, CCbill will not put up with this and after a few DMCA's and stolen content issues CCbill will terminate the account. Content producers just actually submit a valid DMCA to CCbill (most never do) that talks about "THIER" content. Then CCbill will make them proove ownership/usage rights or take it down. Repeat offenses are not that tolerated with CCbill either.

Ask them or get a hold of Corvette and talk to him if you have doubts. CCbill has always been content producer friendly, you just need to serve them properly and about your own material. They can not just guess, assume, nor monitor every single site that they process for.

Yes, ccbill will shut down their account after a "FEW" producers send DMCA's to ccbill. One producer is not good enough. They want 2 or 3, which I think is fucked up, but at least they will do something if a few guys step to the plate.

Mr.White · 11-04-2007, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Well, http://www.dutchteencash.com is finally up...

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okdesign · 11-04-2007, 01:24 AM

If they are not from USA they don't need 2257.

thonglife · 11-04-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bobby666

where are the usual serious partners signatures which are always bumping the threads now ?

thonglife · 11-05-2007, 01:07 PM

Hi......

gooddomains · 11-10-2007, 02:24 AM

interesting story

Marshal · 11-11-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okdesign

If they are not from USA they don't need 2257.

what about IDs and photo releases?

Pornofreak · 11-11-2007, 12:49 PM

well other than the 2257 everyone's talking about, they are thieves!

they were, and I think they still are using our exclusive content on their hosted galleries. I had some removed and it just popped up on another one of their URL's, I finally gave up.

they were also passing it out to aff's.

zEn84 · 11-11-2007, 02:41 PM

I tried submitting a couple gals for them back in the day, was shit so I pulled my links, been wanting to close my account but they won't get back to me. And I can't change my info cause its locked

fuckhead_asshole · 12-17-2007, 02:02 AM

bogged down....

V_RocKs · 12-17-2007, 02:37 AM

Crazy drama.

L-Pink · 12-17-2007, 02:46 AM

status .....?

Elixir · 12-17-2007, 03:22 AM

Serious-Partners are ok !

Serious-Partner · 12-17-2007, 03:43 AM

All i wanna say is that eveything dutchteencash saying here are bullshit. no proofs. And he did it cause some of his very good advertisers came to our partnership program and stopped promoting his sites because of bad ratio..

For dutchteencash: in future think before you say something you don't know exactly. just recomendation

p.s. Just a quick heads up to let you know we have just launched a new site:
www.StudentSexFriends.com

Average ratio on this site is 1:378 now.
So please take a moment of your time and check it out.

In few days we will start 2 new reality sites, also with absolutely exclusive content.

DamageX · 12-17-2007, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Elixir

Serious-Partners are ok !

What, a Serious-Partners sigwhore stating that Serious-Partners are OK? Who would've thought? I must hurry up and sign up with them through your sig and send them tons of traffic!

The Duck · 12-17-2007, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

In case anyone wants to know: this isnt new

Ive talked to a few large program owners. They DMCAd them. And never heard back again. Must be nice to live in the middle of nowhere with some offshore address and dont care bout 2257 or copyrights or whatsoever.

It is very nice.

mrxp · 02-01-2008, 09:36 PM

Anyone sue them? I woke up to a link where serious-partners is using my content.

Vick! · 02-01-2008, 10:02 PM

2257 is only for the ones in US.

hateman · 02-02-2008, 03:26 AM

Some serious accusations here.

Where is the prooof they have CP on their sites?

I think you should be banned.

Mike_Munroe · 02-24-2008, 03:55 AM

I will start to sue them if they will not suggest an acceptable compensation. They made a promo with 1 of my best sets and today I have discovered another from my sets at privatehomeclips. My brother is a lawyer and he is in waiting position.

Mike_Munroe · 02-24-2008, 04:00 AM

mrxp, send me an email go to sexy-employee.com and then to the contact section

sicone · 02-24-2008, 04:04 AM

bumping old threads is fun

Mike_Munroe · 02-24-2008, 04:09 AM

No fun dude, if you see your content highly recommended and don´t get a cent for it

mrkrabs · 02-24-2008, 05:16 AM

bump bump

stev0 · 02-26-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okdesign

If they are not from USA they don't need 2257.

When they're accepting US affiliates and encouraging them to market the site with that content they sure as hell better have 2257 docs

V_RocKs · 02-26-2008, 05:52 PM

Page 3 yet?

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11-02-2007, 06:48 PM	#59
DirtyProfits Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,885	DutchTeenCash is absolutely right with everything he said! This Hanna video first appeared on http://totallycrap.com/ and as far as I know they "own" the copyright to that video and yes she was underage when that video was shot. I have read that on an online news site back then. gclouds what you are trying to do here is ridiculous and just proves DutchTeenCash right. Everybody with an IQ above 80 can identify your tactic here and because we all did something like that when we went to primary school. So just STFU please!

11-02-2007, 07:06 PM	#61
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	You guys need to learn - if CCBill is the processor, you need to DMCA them as well as the site. If the site doesn't act, CCBill in effect has to act for them, or risk being liable. If your content is on the site without permission, DMCA CCBill, get their processing pulled, and the problem will solve itself very quickly.

11-02-2007, 07:06 PM	#62
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	any response from serious partners ?

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thonglife So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest, US Posts: 1,566	Dutchteencash.. contact Interpol or something... links have been dead for some time now.

11-05-2007, 01:07 PM	#79
thonglife So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest, US Posts: 1,566	Hi......

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11-11-2007, 12:49 PM	#82
Pornofreak Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 199	well other than the 2257 everyone's talking about, they are thieves! they were, and I think they still are using our exclusive content on their hosted galleries. I had some removed and it just popped up on another one of their URL's, I finally gave up. they were also passing it out to aff's.

11-11-2007, 02:41 PM	#83
zEn84 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: BC Posts: 484	I tried submitting a couple gals for them back in the day, was shit so I pulled my links, been wanting to close my account but they won't get back to me. And I can't change my info cause its locked

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12-17-2007, 03:43 AM	#88
Serious-Partner Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NY Posts: 2,585	All i wanna say is that eveything dutchteencash saying here are bullshit. no proofs. And he did it cause some of his very good advertisers came to our partnership program and stopped promoting his sites because of bad ratio.. For dutchteencash: in future think before you say something you don't know exactly. just recomendation p.s. Just a quick heads up to let you know we have just launched a new site: www.StudentSexFriends.com Average ratio on this site is 1:378 now. So please take a moment of your time and check it out. In few days we will start 2 new reality sites, also with absolutely exclusive content.

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02-02-2008, 03:26 AM	#93
hateman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,623	Some serious accusations here. Where is the prooof they have CP on their sites? I think you should be banned.

02-24-2008, 03:55 AM	#94
Mike_Munroe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 61	I will start to sue them if they will not suggest an acceptable compensation. They made a promo with 1 of my best sets and today I have discovered another from my sets at privatehomeclips. My brother is a lawyer and he is in waiting position.

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