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Old 02-23-2008, 09:03 PM   #51
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man do any of you people even make any money? or do you just spend your time surfing shap's sites and copying/pasting old threads to make new ones?
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man do any of you people even make any money? or do you just spend your time surfing shap's sites and copying/pasting old threads to make new ones?
Hadn't you heard that recycling is the way of the future?
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Huh? He had full lenght videos of Peter North as well as bunch of other stolen content (ask Lycos)...
I guess it's another Platinum move
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Old 02-23-2008, 09:46 PM   #56
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actually some reps get paid to post about nothing all day. So whats the difference really.
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:17 PM   #57
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so the link to this so called bad site is in his sig? LOL They should just delete this thread already. Poor guy get bashed for nothing and others jump on the train without thinking.
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:44 PM   #58
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Wait, i just read the other site...which had 3 pages. So you actually just copied some screenshots from the other site and started your own thread, exactly the same, just to get some attention to your pathetic life?
Actually, it wasn't even from another site, he just copied and pasted from another thread here.
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Posting that Shap owns a few domains is not proof that he is running anything illegal.

Post your proof or a retraction in a new thread or the Ban Hammer will be grounding the JET!

there was proof that there was stolen content on his site. A lot of people refer to tube sites who make money from stolen content as " illegal tube sites" vs. sites that monitor the content and don't allow any stolen shit on it " legal tube sites".

Eric, its not ok for him to post that shap is running an illegal site... ok thats fine I can see how it crosses over the line. But, what about Damian repeatidly saying that ClickCash has *scammed/ stole* from 1000's webmasters on GFY but he wont reply any proof. I think that statment is just as bad if not worse. Can we get a " post proof or ban hammer coming down" for him too ?

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ClickCash steal from honest webmasters.

There are 100's of posts about CC stealing.
I can't seem to find these post and Damian has never listed the 100s that he is talking about where people complain that clickcash stole from them. His reply to me asking for him to prove his accusations....

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Yes I lied - 100s dosnt cover it - I should have said 1000s over the years..

Will anything be done about this, or is it ok to make up shit and accuse companies of stealing from 1000's of webmasters just because they don't post here to defend themselves. If he posts proof of these 1000s' people you can delete my account for bothering you.
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Old 02-23-2008, 11:09 PM   #60
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Actually, it wasn't even from another site, he just copied and pasted from another thread here.
Uhm no clue why i said site.
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Go Cry A Fucking River

Some of you loosers should go make you own fucking tube site

Wait till I make my tube site just to piss you all off, ill be jacking shit from all of your sites =)
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Old 02-24-2008, 01:08 AM   #62
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there was proof that there was stolen content on his site. A lot of people refer to tube sites who make money from stolen content as " illegal tube sites" vs. sites that monitor the content and don't allow any stolen shit on it " legal tube sites".
Where's the proof? The closest thing to proof is Lykos saying something alone the lines of "My exclusive content is on there" but offering no evidence to back that statement up... no links, nothing.

I'm totally against stolen content, but only when I see proof. Show me a video with a watermark on a page linking to someone else (as is rampant on other tube sites), and I'll be kicking Shap in the ass with the rest of you.
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Ok knowing that I do a lot to fight content theft zango and a variety of other things. I spent a bit of time looking over gaytube, I was hard pressed to find anything over 3 minutes long, and the stuff that was, was very generic. I can list a number of content stores that will sell content for this type of use.

As far as the Peter North video goes, that don't mean anything. I can list dozens of Peter North DVD's that you can purchase for pretty much any type of use.

Going over this site I'm finding nothing wrong with it. Shap has had a busy name on here recently, so a lot of people are gunning for him. I think in this situation someone has jumped the gun.
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Where's the proof? The closest thing to proof is Lykos saying something alone the lines of "My exclusive content is on there" but offering no evidence to back that statement up... no links, nothing.

I'm totally against stolen content, but only when I see proof. Show me a video with a watermark on a page linking to someone else (as is rampant on other tube sites), and I'll be kicking Shap in the ass with the rest of you.
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Ok knowing that I do a lot to fight content theft zango and a variety of other things. I spent a bit of time looking over gaytube, I was hard pressed to find anything over 3 minutes long, and the stuff that was, was very generic. I can list a number of content stores that will sell content for this type of use.

As far as the Peter North video goes, that don't mean anything. I can list dozens of Peter North DVD's that you can purchase for pretty much any type of use.

Going over this site I'm finding nothing wrong with it. Shap has had a busy name on here recently, so a lot of people are gunning for him. I think in this situation someone has jumped the gun.
you guys must have missed this post in the other thread

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hi everyone. i am jack and my job is to run gaytube.
i'm writing because shap's away until next week and i did not see him post so i am posting.
i found 42 videos (out of 600 total on gaytube) that were copyrighted so i deleted them. illegal videos are not allowed on the site. so if you find any copyright material plz email me [email protected] and they will be gone. ok that is all,bye for now.
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Where's the proof? The closest thing to proof is Lykos saying something alone the lines of "My exclusive content is on there" but offering no evidence to back that statement up... no links, nothing.

I'm totally against stolen content, but only when I see proof. Show me a video with a watermark on a page linking to someone else (as is rampant on other tube sites), and I'll be kicking Shap in the ass with the rest of you.
Are you an idiot? They were all deleted? The links were posted on a gay thread and content owners contacted them so magically all long videos disappeared?

There were lots of Belami videos, 57 min videos from Raging Stallion, lots of stolen vids from fratmen and seancody. Those were the ones I saw on 3 pages from most viewed.
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Thing is most people are lazy to read the other thread, and they have to strout their sig so most of them think this is about sextube anyway. (which it isn't for the lazy ones)
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A member banned for speaking out against content piracy.

FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.

Now we have a perfect example of how business and society is handled these days, by petty wannabe dictators.
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FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.

Now we have a perfect example of how business and society is handled these days, by petty wannabe dictators.
Details ........
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Proof from Google cache

http://www.imageno.com/ucp7fc349diapic.html

http://www.imageno.com/n3ccb98vup1npic.html

http://www.imageno.com/clucd8oyvc0cpic.html

http://www.imageno.com/iocdf63bhzfupic.html

You can find the same results from Google with the same terms.

I can find more btw. These were some of the stuff I reported to the owners before creating the first thread.
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:28 AM   #73
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Some of you loosers should go make you own fucking tube site

Wait till I make my tube site just to piss you all off, ill be jacking shit from all of your sites =)
the number of ass kissers on this board is fucking ridiculous. Just because Shap is a big fish, all brown nosers line up and fight their way to bury their little noses in his ass asap. Way to fucking go, losers

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Well if nothing else then atleast jet is banned...
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FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.

Now we have a perfect example of how business and society is handled these days, by petty wannabe dictators.
Will you stick around anyway?

He asked for proof. Proof was given. That didn't seem to matter. There are other forums. Why not start visiting them instead?
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Eric just took away his complete income...thats pretty bad
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Will you stick around anyway?

He asked for proof. Proof was given. That didn't seem to matter. There are other forums. Why not start visiting them instead?
true, there are other forums. It's active posters that make the forum. Without them it is worth shit. Most forum owners will welcome active posters.

Jet was an idiot, no question about that, but it changes nothing on the fact that he was banned as result of blatant favoritism and support of a content thief.
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Contest whore gone (legal, but....)
Others.... stay?

Did I miss a memo?
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Shap is not answering on all this?
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He answered allright. By complaining to mods and asking to ban people i guess
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With any environment where there is a mechanism for people to put up videos, inevitably you will have a few who do so with content that doesn't belong to them. The IMPORTANT thing is that the site removes it as soon as possible, would that not be the same with hosted gallery content etc? If they were leaving it up saying fuck you, maybe, but they are actively working to REMOVE that content. In fact, it looks like they're asking for people to help by reporting it for removal. Wow, sounds so fishy (NOT!)
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Just for the record does this mean that any adult entity that puts up any form of tube site are running illegal sites or going to get roasted on GFY? Sure looks like it.
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With any environment where there is a mechanism for people to put up videos, inevitably you will have a few who do so with content that doesn't belong to them. The IMPORTANT thing is that the site removes it as soon as possible, would that not be the same with hosted gallery content etc? If they were leaving it up saying fuck you, maybe, but they are actively working to REMOVE that content. In fact, it looks like they're asking for people to help by reporting it for removal. Wow, sounds so fishy (NOT!)
Technically (correct me if I am wrong lawyers o gfy) by them removing that content sans dmca, and if it was truly user submitted would constitute them moderating the content, therefore bypassing them from the 2257 loophole on user submitted content.

Think someone REALLY needs to layout why tube sites are allowed to operate without documents. Lot of confusion about it without question.
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Technically (correct me if I am wrong lawyers o gfy) by them removing that content sans dmca, and if it was truly user submitted would constitute them moderating the content, therefore bypassing them from the 2257 loophole on user submitted content.

Think someone REALLY needs to layout why tube sites are allowed to operate without documents. Lot of confusion about it without question.
Well it's certainly one of those grey areas that happens in adult and on the internet when a new medium of communication is opened... takes a while for the dust to settle and a protocol to be established. Sure does throw back to the early days of TGP when everyone screamed about them being hotbeds for stolen content and it was up to the people who ran the sites to figure out how to deal with the mess.
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im moving to sweden to run the largest tube in the world. no affiliates necessary.

thats what its coming to in this biz it appears.
Would you please hurry up and get theairekbay.org online? My torrent client's-a-waitin'...
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With any environment where there is a mechanism for people to put up videos, inevitably you will have a few who do so with content that doesn't belong to them. The IMPORTANT thing is that the site removes it as soon as possible, would that not be the same with hosted gallery content etc? If they were leaving it up saying fuck you, maybe, but they are actively working to REMOVE that content. In fact, it looks like they're asking for people to help by reporting it for removal. Wow, sounds so fishy (NOT!)
http://www.imageno.com/t9yjzljlje52pic.html

As you can see Lebanon Part 2, which is a 57 min DVD rip was added 175 fucking days ago! I'm really touched by how much they were working to remove stolen content until they were caught on the forums. I want to cry.
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Well it's certainly one of those grey areas that happens in adult and on the internet when a new medium of communication is opened... takes a while for the dust to settle and a protocol to be established. Sure does throw back to the early days of TGP when everyone screamed about them being hotbeds for stolen content and it was up to the people who ran the sites to figure out how to deal with the mess.
Yes just bothers me when people start screaming for to take content down when they are not the copyright holder. Tube sites have to either be user submitted and content is only removed after dmca notice, or Owner submitted only. Owner submitted would be responsible to have 2257 docs on file. Can't have a blend of both and still stay on the legal side of 2257 from what I understand. With certain exceptions of course being content that is illegal period such as cp and beast etc. the owner could of course remove that.
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As you can see Lebanon Part 2, which is a 57 min DVD rip was added 175 fucking days ago! I'm really touched by how much they were working to remove stolen content until they were caught on the forums. I want to cry.
The way to stop things such as that would be to have a filter or file size limit for uploads. Filter that only allows say a max of 10 minute clip to be uploaded.
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the number of ass kissers on this board is fucking ridiculous. Just because Shap is a big fish, all brown nosers line up and fight their way to bury their little noses in his ass asap. Way to fucking go, losers
1. I don't know who that fucker is, I could give a shit if he is some small fish, fucking shark or a whale in my eyes he is a business man just like any of you

Let me give you a quick reality check from a person who has nothing to do with this business and looks at the adult biz from a strictly economic perspective.

You have a biz (porn site) people pay for your porn(demand) and then share it and upload(you demand goes down because your consumers share) it on tube sites so now you as a business man have to be like hmmm I cant fight this but how can I change my business model (change the way you supply the content) so I can continue making money and working along side of tube site or creating my own. You guys sit here complaining and bitching get a fucking grip and do something about it.

If this is you bread and butter do something and think about.

I am sitting here on my ass learning from all you fuck knobs to find out all the Weak spots and Weak links
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http://www.imageno.com/t9yjzljlje52pic.html

As you can see Lebanon Part 2, which is a 57 min DVD rip was added 175 fucking days ago! I'm really touched by how much they were working to remove stolen content until they were caught on the forums. I want to cry.
That doesnt matter to them and the asskissers will say what they think will help their agenda. its getting sadder and sadder.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:07 AM   #95
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That doesnt matter to them and the asskissers will say what they think will help their agenda. its getting sadder and sadder.
True. Asskissers first went on like "where is the proof? where is proof?" Now that they saw the proof they are trying to find more ridicilous excuse.

Throw them $5 and they will bark louder than any dog.
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:15 AM   #96
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Isnt it possible that whoever made a tube site, allowed user uploads. People uploaded stolen content, they saw this thread and removed said stolen content.

You guys should take your complaints to the government instead of gfy all day, you could run a tube with 10 billion stolen videos so long as they are removed on request there is nothing illegal people overreact to much.
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you could run a tube with 10 billion stolen videos so long as they are removed on request there is nothing illegal people overreact to much.
Are you related to George Bush?

So it would be OK to dump tons of toxic chemicals into your drinking water as long as I stopped when you asked me to a few months later?
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:41 AM   #100
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hi everyone.
gaytube is a 100% legal site. all content is user submitted. gaytube is run the way youtube is. all dmca requests are handled immediately. our user agreement has a prohibition against copyright infringement. everything is done the same way youtube does. in the 4 months the site has been open i've received only 4 dmca emails. i handled them immediately. there is nothing illegal about gaytube.
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