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k0nr4d · 10-03-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr

If anyone is looking for some backup servics, we have about 8TB of backup space we are offering as a temporary solution for a month or two until people find a home at their new host. Just icq me for details.

Anyone who's on the fence about this alphared thing should hit spudstr up about that. That sounds like it might be useful for those hosting galleries.

cayne · 10-03-2008, 12:01 PM

Realitychecknetwork.com :D

Rodent · 10-03-2008, 12:38 PM

If anyone needs help with something hit me up below, we have some great specials running for the month of october.

www.ReliableServers.Com
icq 3835797 david at reliableservers.com

split_joel · 10-03-2008, 12:42 PM

Hello everyone,

First I want to say I wish alphrared and there customers best of luck and hopefully they can get past any issues they are having and continue to provide there clients with there services.

I want to say to anyone out there please listen to Milian from Oc3networks and backup all your data ASAP.

I have talked to our CEO Chris Jester III granting clearance to make the following offer to anyone who is in fear of losing there data or there server going off and there websites become unreachable.

We will assist you in moving your servers for free, charging no setup fee's and providing you first months free. We are doing this because we know a lot of you are unsure about what is going on, so the first month free is in case you move to us and alphared is fine and you wish to move back. Your data will be safe and it will not cost you a penny.

If you choose to host with us I want you to know we will take care of you and do everything we can to make a transition to our services as easy and painless as possible.

If you have any questions please contact me on aim @ splitjoelp or you can call me directly @ 619-395-5229 and we can talk and answer any of your questions. We have an unlimited amount of servers so we can have you moved in no time.

Once again best of luck to Alphared and there customers, and a thanks to Milian from Oc3 Networks for making the post warning people to take actions to backup there data and move if need be.

Have a good day.

Joel Pritchard
Sales & Tech Support
Suavemente & Splitinfinity

u-Bob · 10-03-2008, 01:06 PM

bump .

seeric · 10-03-2008, 01:12 PM

JDL WOOFHOST is here to assist you if you need anything.

We can have you backed up and running in less than 2 years.

oscer · 10-03-2008, 01:15 PM

I wonder if this lawsuit could really take the company down .. cause to me it looks like all the R'syncing and Fear is what will do it .

Quik-host.com
AIM stynkradio
ICQ 42602565

xenigo · 10-03-2008, 01:25 PM

I find it rather hilarious how this thread turned into such a hosting spam circle-jerk so quickly.

You guys are like fucking piranha.

Net Money · 10-03-2008, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscer

I wonder if this lawsuit could really take the company down .. cause to me it looks like all the R'syncing and Fear is what will do it .

Quik-host.com
AIM stynkradio
ICQ 42602565

Of course it can, a company that is based on selling BW for 1 dollar per meg profit and then add the money for servers, routers and other hardware and then data center and tech and other employee fees.......LOL those type of companies always go bankrupt.

Look at Like Whooa, Foundry Nap, cologroup....all these idiots tried to just earn biz by being cheap and all went under.....It's just not a good (profitable) business model.

Snake Doctor · 10-03-2008, 01:31 PM

This would probably be a good time for most people to consider having an offsite backup with a 3rd party, like Clonebox (not sure if my strongbox refcode works for this service, but I may as well try

)

What good is having daily backups if they're with your host that just went out of business?

A full clonebox hot spare server is $24/mo for 200GB, 12 cents per additional GB.

webair · 10-03-2008, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AliGbone

Now dats a class act! I gots servers with these dudes for years with out so much as a hicup! I grew my bidness from nothin to pushing close to a gig wit da webair crew. Just ordered more for me tube sites dey got a sick deal for these types of sites.

Thanks buddy! i love to hear WEBAIR success stories! even if it is not always in english

NETBilling-Andy · 10-03-2008, 02:22 PM

We're certainly ready to step in as well and help out with any immediate hosting needs. Hit up anyone in sales at CCBill or CaveCreek and we can talk about hosting or data storage (disaster recovery) services.

oscer · 10-03-2008, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Net Money

Of course it can, a company that is based on selling BW for 1 dollar per meg profit and then add the money for servers, routers and other hardware and then data center and tech and other employee fees.......LOL those type of companies always go bankrupt.

Look at Like Whooa, Foundry Nap, cologroup....all these idiots tried to just earn biz by being cheap and all went under.....It's just not a good (profitable) business model.

LOL Foundry nap ... that dood didnt have money to start and tried to be a big shot and he failed horrible and from what i hear not once but twice ..

Also i always keep it a rule to keep at least a 20% margin on top of things so that all those expenses that need to be paid in good order .. but thats me

Ross · 10-03-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by split_joel

Hello everyone,

First I want to say I wish alphrared and there customers best of luck and hopefully they can get past any issues they are having and continue to provide there clients with there services.

I want to say to anyone out there please listen to Milian from Oc3networks and backup all your data ASAP.

I have talked to our CEO Chris Jester III granting clearance to make the following offer to anyone who is in fear of losing there data or there server going off and there websites become unreachable.

We will assist you in moving your servers for free, charging no setup fee's and providing you first months free. We are doing this because we know a lot of you are unsure about what is going on, so the first month free is in case you move to us and alphared is fine and you wish to move back. Your data will be safe and it will not cost you a penny.

If you choose to host with us I want you to know we will take care of you and do everything we can to make a transition to our services as easy and painless as possible.

If you have any questions please contact me on aim @ splitjoelp or you can call me directly @ 619-395-5229 and we can talk and answer any of your questions. We have an unlimited amount of servers so we can have you moved in no time.

Once again best of luck to Alphared and there customers, and a thanks to Milian from Oc3 Networks for making the post warning people to take actions to backup there data and move if need be.

Have a good day.

Joel Pritchard
Sales & Tech Support
Suavemente & Splitinfinity

ICQ me when you get a chance
164643450

Thanks

Juicy D. Links · 10-03-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

JDL WOOFHOST is here to assist you if you need anything.

We can have you backed up and running in less than 2 years.

Klen · 10-03-2008, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I wish *everybody* good luck. I am hopeful that AlphaRed is able to continue serving it's customer base without interruption. Everyone has to make the decisions they feel are best for their business to protect their assets.

If we can be of any assistance to anyone, please reach out to us.

Sincerely,

Brad

I bet you curse in your mind "damn why didnt i opened this thread and take all glory"

pocketkangaroo · 10-03-2008, 04:58 PM

Sin_Vraal · 10-03-2008, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Net Money

Of course it can, a company that is based on selling BW for 1 dollar per meg profit and then add the money for servers, routers and other hardware and then data center and tech and other employee fees.......LOL those type of companies always go bankrupt.

Look at Like Whooa, Foundry Nap, cologroup....all these idiots tried to just earn biz by being cheap and all went under.....It's just not a good (profitable) business model.

I dont think they went down for anything to do with being cheap. Its fairly obvious why they are going down lol.

and your kinda calling their customers cheap by extension.

Iron Fist · 10-03-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo

I find it rather hilarious how this thread turned into such a hosting spam circle-jerk so quickly.

You guys are like fucking piranha.

No kidding... and what makes this a perfect storm, is the people who actually host with AlphaRed posting here and telling everyone they hope they get their shit off the network before something substancial happens, AND AlphaRed not even making a peep about anything.

sigurman · 10-03-2008, 05:52 PM

fuck this...
nobody from ALPHARED????

split_joel · 10-03-2008, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross

ICQ me when you get a chance
164643450

Thanks

Hey,

I sent you a msg on ICQ.

Talk to you soon.

Net Money · 10-03-2008, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin_Vraal

I dont think they went down for anything to do with being cheap. Its fairly obvious why they are going down lol.

and your kinda calling their customers cheap by extension.

I never said they went down for being cheap, I was inferring that with their business model of being a cheap host and opperating at a tiny profit margin if even that, that they don't have shit for resources to to even think about fighting a legal battle with Microsoft or the Attorney Generals office. Also YES their customers are cheap, thats why they choose to go with a bottom of the barrel host rather than a quality host for a few more bucks.

Spudstr · 10-03-2008, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Net Money

I never said they went down for being cheap, I was inferring that with their business model of being a cheap host and opperating at a tiny profit margin if even that, that they don't have shit for resources to to even think about fighting a legal battle with Microsoft or the Attorney Generals office. Also YES their customers are cheap, thats why they choose to go with a bottom of the barrel host rather than a quality host for a few more bucks.

When they oversell and bill out at 95th and get billed at the 90th percentile, and sell at 4/Mbps and their cost is slightly below. when you have 40+Gbps bandwidth your low margins make up for volume. a 3-4 dollar profit margin is the same if your selling for 15/Mbps. There are lots of variables involved and lots of different business models to go by. By the volume of bandwidth they were pushing i'm sure they were doing well for themselves.

dubsix · 10-03-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr

When they oversell and bill out at 95th and get billed at the 90th percentile, and sell at 4/Mbps and their cost is slightly below. when you have 40+Gbps bandwidth your low margins make up for volume. a 3-4 dollar profit margin is the same if your selling for 15/Mbps. There are lots of variables involved and lots of different business models to go by. By the volume of bandwidth they were pushing i'm sure they were doing well for themselves.

You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

V_RocKs · 10-03-2008, 06:42 PM

Alpha Red = Enron without a handshake and a wink from President Bush and Dick Cheney.

milan · 10-03-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan

You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

Ryan you are a smart guys and seem like a good biz man! I was saying the above all along...

Spudstr · 10-03-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan

You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

No its not, but the massive overselling they did makes up for a large chunk. Not to mention however many accounts they have still at 8/Mbps pricing etc that they were running a year ago. and now their cost was sub 4/Mbps.

You and I both know they were the cheapest cogent boxes 1-2 years ago and undercut everybody and I'm sure they still had plenty of people still paying 8-10/Mbps when their cost was sub 4. Thats still nice profit on top of the massive overselling.

dubsix · 10-03-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan

Ryan you are a smart guys and seem like a good biz man! I was saying the above all along...

Ilan,

Thanks for the compliments, wish I could recipricate but I still can't believe you would hire Chris Gotzmann and then assist in the cover up and continue to allow him to operate under a false identity.

At the very least you made the promise to cover any of his oustanding debts which was a nice move but stil... Chris? come on man.

Techie Media · 10-03-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan

You aren't even taking into account their cost of corporate overhead, support, office space, other bills, power, physical space, etc.

Their products were priced at straight up $4-5/mbps so a 100mbps box was $400-500 with hardware included, even $4/mbps @ 90% isn't going to cover all their costs.

Exactly correct.

milan · 10-03-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WireSix-Ryan

Ilan,

Thanks for the compliments, wish I could recipricate but I still can't believe you would hire Chris Gotzmann and then assist in the cover up and continue to allow him to operate under a false identity.

At the very least you made the promise to cover any of his outstanding debts which was a nice move but stil... Chris? come on man.

if you read my post I stand behind it and already took care of 1 that was able to proof damage etc... and one is about to.

but this is for another time or if you like more info ICQ me

hey the kid changed and doing things by the book, and for what he is making now HE BETTER!

Sin_Vraal · 10-03-2008, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Net Money

I never said they went down for being cheap, I was inferring that with their business model of being a cheap host and opperating at a tiny profit margin if even that, that they don't have shit for resources to to even think about fighting a legal battle with Microsoft or the Attorney Generals office. Also YES their customers are cheap, thats why they choose to go with a bottom of the barrel host rather than a quality host for a few more bucks.

I somehow doubt that any company in this thread who was in their position, using your own profits would have been able to stand up to microsoft/washington state. Of course that being said... most sane people would come to an agreement with them.

You might make 10-15/mbit more than they did, but dont forget they sold 200,000 megabits more than you (literally). if they made ONLY $1/mbit per server (which I'm betting they made more than that) they still ownz you.

TidalWave · 10-03-2008, 07:30 PM

true that, and trust me -- im an industry professional.

TidalWave · 10-03-2008, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscer

I wonder if this lawsuit could really take the company down .. cause to me it looks like all the R'syncing and Fear is what will do it .

Quik-host.com
AIM stynkradio
ICQ 42602565

the company is named in the lawsuit, the fines alone would probably bankrupt it

Sin_Vraal · 10-03-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

the company is named in the lawsuit, the fines alone would probably bankrupt it

Being located in Seattle, and located 1 block away from the Courthouse, I can personally testify to their brutal effectiveness (mainly b/c they have a great cafeteria and its reasonably fun to watch). Even when they don't win the case, they still ruin your business.

Hell just being NAMED in the articles with this was probably massive damage to their business.

dubsix · 10-03-2008, 08:04 PM

This was just posted on WHT

Quote:

Alpha_Red_Management View Beta Profile
New Member Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 0

An Announcement to Our Alpha Red Clients

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We want to thank you for your patience over the course of the past day, and offer you some reassurance and information regarding our efforts to sustain a viable future for Alpha Red and our valued clients. As of this afternoon, we have received a Letter of Intent and have entered into negotiations with CWIE Holding Company, Inc, parent company of CCBill on an agreement to further protect and secure your ongoing service.

Please know that we are working diligently with CWIE, and our hope is to bring more details to you as they become available through the weekend, and into Monday.

Many thanks!

Ycaza · 10-03-2008, 09:34 PM

Now I have read it,

I can be pretty close to some of the AR Pricing and we can offer Free transitions, We have competitive non-cogent bandwidth, call me up all weekend, if anyone needs help.

818-636-6710

10-03-2008, 11:28 PM

4 USD is no problem to rich, if you have a big amount of bandwidth and still make a profit or at least make profit on rent of servers. But we speak about 5 gbits and more. With price 400$ server + 100 mbps traffic is quote difficult to cover costs.

Alex.

Brad Mitchell · 10-03-2008, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Xe

4 USD is no problem to rich, if you have a big amount of bandwidth and still make a profit or at least make profit on rent of servers. But we speak about 5 gbits and more.
Alex.

Absolute, total bullshit. You can take it to 50, 100, 200 gigabit and you're still wrong. One could at best wash on the wholesale costs of the raw bandwidth (which is only a portion of the expense to delivering network) but would absolutely lose money in scale even with server rental or colocation. In any scale, there must be margin on every component or the model isn't viable.

Brad

10-04-2008, 03:25 AM

Brad, i believe that you buy he.net at least for 4 USD per mbit or more cheap

Alex.

sigurman · 10-04-2008, 04:11 AM

I just got this announcement:

"We want to thank you for your patience over the course of the past day, and offer you some reassurance and information regarding our efforts to sustain a viable future for Alpha Red and our valued clients. As of this afternoon, we have received a Letter of Intent and have entered into negotiations with CWIE Holding Company, Inc, parent company of CCBill on an agreement to further protect and secure your ongoing service.

Please know that we are working diligently with CWIE, and our hope is to bring more details to you as they become available through the weekend, and into Monday.

Many thanks!

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=726847"

If its true...i dont know.

Brad Mitchell · 10-04-2008, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Xe

Brad, i believe that you buy he.net at least for 4 USD per mbit or more cheap

Alex.

And you would be incorrect, again. The $4 HE promotion isn't a true $4 rate, it's for a fully committed 1g or 10g port and isn't even a burstable product.

Brad

montel · 10-04-2008, 06:57 AM

this must really suck for some people. i guess if it is too good to be true...

raymor · 10-04-2008, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Techie Media

I would really like to hear or read some real facts about this situation. So far all there has been is nothing but rumors and gossip. Is there any actual news articles or anything like that around with actual facts?

Some links have been posted in this thread, such as this one:
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technol...ers/index.html

10-04-2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

And you would be incorrect, again. The $4 HE promotion isn't a true $4 rate, it's for a fully committed 1g or 10g port and isn't even a burstable product.

Brad

Just to let you know, on 10GE full port you can get a better price

Good Luck, Alex.

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Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	4 USD is no problem to rich, if you have a big amount of bandwidth and still make a profit or at least make profit on rent of servers. But we speak about 5 gbits and more. With price 400$ server + 100 mbps traffic is quote difficult to cover costs. Alex.

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Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	Brad, i believe that you buy he.net at least for 4 USD per mbit or more cheap Alex.

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