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Old 12-15-2008, 03:54 PM   #2
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bump for a good question
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:58 PM   #3
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:59 PM   #5
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Matters, but it depends on the amount of sites.

Handfull of sites with similar(not duplicet) content on same server is ok - you wont see much difference. But 200, and you get a problem
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Old 12-15-2008, 03:59 PM   #6
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It depends on what you/others host there and so on. IMHO a crowded, seemingly shared host IP, actually gives credibility, or should I say "the benefit of a doubt".
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:01 PM   #7
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It depends.

If you're building your own network of sites from ground up for backlink structure reasons - yes, it matters.

Yes, it does help -- but not by that much. I recommend it only if the clients wants "all extras included", otherwise there are better ways to spend those resources for SEO purpose.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:26 PM   #8
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It depends on what you/others host there and so on. IMHO a crowded, seemingly shared host IP, actually gives credibility, or should I say "the benefit of a doubt".
Why is that?

http://www.bruceclay.com/blog/archiv...is_better.html

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Old 12-15-2008, 04:34 PM   #9
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What you read there is an "old truth" Baddog. Just like multiple C-class IPs alone have such a monumental effect on your rankings..
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What you read there is an "old truth" Baddog. Just like multiple C-class IPs alone have such a monumental effect on your rankings..
Well, a couple months ago I was at Ad Tech in NYC and decided to stop by the Bruce Clay booth.

I told them that I had read on their main site and their blog about the assertion that 3 percent of all Web sites have dedicated IPs, with the other 97 percent resting on shared IPs and 90 percent of the top-50 results were using dedicated IP numbers.

I told them that I had read assertions that this was some rambling by a blogger.

They assured me that not only do they stand by their comment but all contracts with them insist that their client uses a dedicated IP.

They do not sell hosting, they are not an affiliate. They have nothing to gain by insisting on dedicated IP's. Yet if you want to use their service you must have a dedicated IP, or go elsewhere.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:46 PM   #11
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Well, a couple months ago I was at Ad Tech in NYC and decided to stop by the Bruce Clay booth.

I told them that I had read on their main site and their blog about the assertion that 3 percent of all Web sites have dedicated IPs, with the other 97 percent resting on shared IPs and 90 percent of the top-50 results were using dedicated IP numbers.

I told them that I had read assertions that this was some rambling by a blogger.

They assured me that not only do they stand by their comment but all contracts with them insist that their client uses a dedicated IP.

They do not sell hosting, they are not an affiliate. They have nothing to gain by insisting on dedicated IP's. Yet if you want to use their service you must have a dedicated IP, or go elsewhere.

I pretty much agree with them, but as with so much other things in SEO the thing has been blown out of proportion.
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:48 PM   #12
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I pretty much agree with them, but as with so much other things in SEO the thing has been blown out of proportion.

People should stop the theorycrafting, and spend more time on making exclusive content instead. Its better for both the webmaster and the surfers
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:49 PM   #13
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What you read there is an "old truth" Baddog. Just like multiple C-class IPs alone have such a monumental effect on your rankings..
Everyone can argue until they're blue in the face - us hosts see the clients with the dedicated IPs and the results they have on a constant basis. Although there is never any guarantee of success, I believe that it's accurate to say that odds are weighted in one's favor with dedicated IP space.

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People should stop the theorycrafting, and spend more time on making exclusive content instead. Its better for both the webmaster and the surfers
Is that you Matt?
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Is that you Matt?

?? i dont get it
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My opinion is that it matters to such a small degree that its neglible, but with conditions.

For example, don't share sites within the same niche/category on the same IP to avoid being labelled as duplicate content. Try also not to doing link exchanges to other sites on the same C-block.

Other than that, I'd say go ahead and share IPs between sites.
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Everyone can argue until they're blue in the face - us hosts see the clients with the dedicated IPs and the results they have on a constant basis. Although there is never any guarantee of success, I believe that it's accurate to say that odds are weighted in one's favor with dedicated IP space.

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Hah! And thats the correct answer. The odds are in your favour on a dedicated IP, but a shared IP isnt necessarily that bad. Its funny how ppl give this so much focus. After all, if you are indeed hosting on dedicated IPs there are sooo many other possibilities to improve/fuck up your rankings which are totally neglected or not known to the "common" webmaster. Just consider all the muppets who buy one dedicated server, put 10 different C-class IPs and start crosslinking them? Gbot cant check hostnames? Gbot cant figure out what IPs that are pooled to the same DC?
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Oh yes, amen to that!
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"theorycrafting" lmao
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dedicated ips are overrated... unless you are in the business of selling them...
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Well, a couple months ago I was at Ad Tech in NYC and decided to stop by the Bruce Clay booth.

I told them that I had read on their main site and their blog about the assertion that 3 percent of all Web sites have dedicated IPs, with the other 97 percent resting on shared IPs and 90 percent of the top-50 results were using dedicated IP numbers.

I told them that I had read assertions that this was some rambling by a blogger.

They assured me that not only do they stand by their comment but all contracts with them insist that their client uses a dedicated IP.

They do not sell hosting, they are not an affiliate. They have nothing to gain by insisting on dedicated IP's. Yet if you want to use their service you must have a dedicated IP, or go elsewhere.
Aren't you an SEO expert?
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1) A couple of sites only per IP's and NOT THE SAME layout/niches
2) .com names, shortest possible and with targeted keywords in it.
3) Time spent on the site by surfers
4) Time online (old domains)
5) Number of inbound links (not fake)
6) No crap on the site or from sites linking to the site
7) Various servers
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1) A couple of sites only per IP's and NOT THE SAME layout/niches
2) .com names, shortest possible and with targeted keywords in it.
3) Time spent on the site by surfers
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now send me 10$
there are a billion people with private domain as their whois may it be godaddy or netsol etc dont think whois would make a shit
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It matters enough for me to pay $0,50-$1 for It's own IP for each new domain I get.
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there are a billion people with private domain as their whois may it be godaddy or netsol etc dont think whois would make a shit
google is a registrar.
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google is a registrar.
Which doesnt matter. Other registrars cant see whats behind the whois protection.
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Private whois information is stored at the registrar level, not global.
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Hahaha.. thats a hint for me right?
How many spots have you got? I know others who might want aswell.
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Hahaha.. thats a hint for me right?
How many spots have you got? I know others who might want aswell.
I have as many as needed. I put your links on 500 of 2500 sites. Plenty of room.



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