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Old 03-22-2009, 10:05 PM   #101
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Clearly this is all Kristen Kaye's fault. She is pure evil.
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:05 PM   #102
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Furtygirl, I'm sorry but when I look at the two pages side by side as you have displayed them I do not see any similarities. Can you tell us what part exactly is a rip-off of your page? The look? colors? Fonts? I know you said fonts in an earlier post but is that it? The font does not even look similar to me. Can you tell us the name of that font? And did you create that font yourself?
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:09 PM   #104
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I think this is what some people call a 'publicity stunt.'

Fail.
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I could never trust a women that doesn't eat meat .. I don't know just doesn't seem right
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"ASACP AIDS FCACP IN FIGHTING COMMERCIAL CP"
I stopped reading there.

Just curious, can any of you find REAL CP out there that is commercial in the English speaking market? I'm talking pre-teens, having sex or the focus is on their parts? I can't and I've tried just to see if it was even out there.
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:18 PM   #108
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I want to promote Furry Girl dot Com!!!
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I see both sides i think if you cut off the stuff above the enter button on the xbiz pic its exactly what you see on her page, in fact if they were sheets of paper and put one on top of the other they would line up perfectly....that being said, its probably a coincidence i dont think your argument is not going to get very far.

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Old 03-22-2009, 10:37 PM   #111
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I want to promote Furry Girl dot Com!!!
I'd rather promote FurryGirlFinallyUsesARazorAndLearnsHowToApplySomeM akeUp.com

There's a group of folks up here that (and I'm guessing it's the years of drug usage) that thinks hairy armpits are hot. Personally, I think it's just a reason for laziness when dealing with personal hygiene - but that's just me.

It reminds me of (Mike Aivaz aka. Mike Hunt) that dude that ran the public access porn show who sat around naked and showed ugly hairy assed women porn clips as his tv show.

Folks on his show were so ugly and hairy that people bitched to get him off the air - and that's saying something when the public outcry yells to stop free porn on TV!!!

FurryGirl - go back to your water bong. If you think you have an argument, then I say you owe me money because you ripped off MY work. I've been putting enter/leave buttons on the bottom of my pages for years - even done it in blue/white a time or two along with a few other thousand or so webmasters who have been around much much longer than you.

So whip out the checkbook and write us all a check for $2.34 for using our bottom enter/leave buttons..

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=102x1207142

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Old 03-22-2009, 10:50 PM   #112
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Old 03-22-2009, 10:58 PM   #113
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You may want to take a look at this before you go any further. Especially this section.

"Titles, names, short phrases, slogans:"

http://www.bitlaw.com/copyright/unprotected.html

Just an FYI.

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Old 03-22-2009, 11:09 PM   #115
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My two cents...

Okay... very interesting post and I have to put in my ... guys don't be so harsh, first off... lol.

Then I have to recap my fav posts on this thread...

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... but hey, congrats on the amount of hits ur site prob got since posting this..

But I'm sure you won't, the last girl I tried to give advice to on here didn't listen to me neither. Her name is Minnie, you should look her up hehe
Agree on the publicity thing... i was thinking that was what the entire thread was geared towards when i started reading it...

AND amen on the MINNIE thing, i too was in that boat a couple years ago... and umm .... yea


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I think this is what some people call a 'publicity stunt.'

Fail.
and I thought so too... but not sure ... i think furrygirl is serious.


I do hope you get it all worked out though... good luck.
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:15 PM   #116
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:17 PM   #117
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We have used that font for many years now on our main site and still do, at one stage our Join and Leave buttons were in it.
There are a couple of other feeder sites that we have that also use that font as well as some of our submitted galleries.
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:18 PM   #118
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I've seen a lot of things the last 10 years in the business and this is special.

I think even Donny would give you the first official Donny Long award here in honor of some of his earlier posts. LOL!

If you weren't living in Washington with 10x the hair that I have, I'd suggest you twist this into a massively smart PR stunt. I somehow just don't think that's what's going on here, though...

Can't you just be flattered that someone in the creative department might be a fan or member of your site?

I want some of whatever you're smoking, please!

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Notice those complaining either have very few posts or no sig and info....fake nicks who hide suck....bs thread this is....Xbiz is your support in this industry, dont mock them for a ridiculous reason...i dont see a resemblence in those 2 pages?
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Sitting down to read the March 2009 issue of Xbiz World (the printed magazine), I came across an article on page 88 titled, "ASACP AIDS FCACP IN FIGHTING COMMERCIAL CP" by Stephen Yagielowicz.

Much to my surprise, the example kiddie porn site looks an awful lot like the splash page to one of my sites. See the side-by-side here, I don't have enough posts to embed images: furrygirl.com/share/xbiz.jpg

I don't recall ever seeing another adult web site using that font, and I especially have never seen any web site ever using it on a dark blue splash page in white and light blue text. There is no debating that Xbiz's little example kiddie porn site is based directly on my splash page.

So, Xbiz, what the fuck? What made you pull my URL out of a hat to use as base from which to make a kiddie porn site mockup graphic for your article? I mean, I know I'm young-looking and all that, but I'm also probably the only adult website that specifically forbids affiliates from selling me as a "teen". I have never used the words "teen" or "young" to describe my site, despite the fact I started shooting/webmastering when I was 18. I don't do schoolgirl content, and I go out of my way to avoid portraying myself as super-young, when I could have gone the Little April route if I so wanted.

To see something I've created (even just something as simple as my enter/exit/members buttons and layout) being used as an example of kiddie porn really pisses me off. It would piss off any webmaster.

I would have expected better from Xbiz.
If you didn't create that font... STFU whore.
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Of course I do! Hair sticking out of my pantyhose is just gross and I'll be happy to let you sniff my armpits for compliance
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Has anyone else noticed .. forget for a second that the original poster is an idiot..

That the graphic is 100% made from a screenshot of her site?

I know it's nothing to get heated about, but she's right, they made the graphic by using a screenshot of her site, and switched the top half out.

You can even see the white on the sides, that's not a really wide scrollbar.

She's overreacting, but for any of you that don't see the resemblance, it's there.
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Of course I do! Hair sticking out of my pantyhose is just gross and I'll be happy to let you sniff my armpits for compliance
ah well, you got tits, fair enough. i assumed you were a guy, in which case i was going to laugh my ass off at you.
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....She's overreacting, but for any of you that don't see the resemblance, it's there.
Yes, I see it, and I agree that it's possible that the image on the laptop is an altered screencap from the OP's site. But it's been altered to the point that the average person would never recognize it, and isn't that one of the tests for violation of copyright? Assuming that the text based graphics in question are even copyrightable, which is doubtful.

Overreacting is an understatement. If I went off like this every time I found some of my code used on other web sites I'd never get anything else done. Aaliyah nailed it earlier, time is too valuable to spend it on something so trivial.
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On another note... I fail to see any resemblance at all or even what you are talking about.
im gonna have to agree.
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OK, well, someone had to do it.

Incidentally, fluffygrrl, I think you're flipping out over nothing.
This is so incidental in the grand scheme of things, a mere fleck.

But yes, this is your page.



Favicons are the same



Make a note, never hire anyone from this thread to do print work.
The background colour isn't different at all, it's simply the CMYK version of her background.
Meaning: On screen, things are a mix of RGB [Red Green Blue]. For print, it's Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black. Not all RGB colours, particulally oranges and dark blues can be represented in CYMK, so they shift. And that's exactly what's happened here.
Take her site into photoshop, convert it to CYMK, you'll see it's the same.


Screenshot of her site, 50% overlayed on their shot, with perspective correction.

So yes, they're taken.

But seriously, wtf? Move on.

On the flipside: XBiz, spank your lazy designer.

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Old 03-23-2009, 03:22 AM   #129
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Has anyone else noticed .. forget for a second that the original poster is an idiot..

That the graphic is 100% made from a screenshot of her site?

I know it's nothing to get heated about, but she's right, they made the graphic by using a screenshot of her site, and switched the top half out.

You can even see the white on the sides, that's not a really wide scrollbar.

She's overreacting, but for any of you that don't see the resemblance, it's there.
Yes and of course how many of you have the actual magazine? I think your being pretty harsh by calling her out of her name...I havent seen her call anyone of you anything...if i was a female webmaster i would find it offensive... I mean i understand this is an adult webmaster forum but to be perfectly honest most of the guys on here are more than likely "pussy" anyways
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OK, well, someone had to do it.

Incidentally, fluffygrrl, I think you're flipping out over nothing.
This is so incidental in the grand scheme of things, a mere fleck.

But yes, this is your page.



Favicons are the same



Make a note, never hire anyone from this thread to do print work.
The background colour isn't different at all, it's simply the CMYK version of her background.
Meaning: On screen, things are a mix of RGB [Red Green Blue]. For print, it's Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black. Not all RGB colours, particulally oranges and dark blues can be represented in CYMK, so they shift. And that's exactly what's happened here.
Take her site into photoshop, convert it to CYMK, you'll see it's the same.


Screenshot of her site, 50% overlayed on their shot, with perspective correction.

So yes, they're taken.

But seriously, wtf? Move on.

On the flipside: XBiz, spank your lazy designer.
Waiting on a real expert...furrygirl YOU are overreacting, but i dont like how these punk asses are overreacting to you...I WISH it was a publicity stunt
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It looks like they ripped you off but what you can do ? Nothing

BTW I don`t know why you bring it to GFY. This board is full of crooks, carders, tube owners, surfers and Juicy The Paki.
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Nice work quantum, I can't believe I stuck through 3 pages on this thread, but I knew this chic was right and bam, many people served up. The Xbiz designer is probably a vegan hater and secretly wanks it to her and this was some passive aggressive move on his/her part. (j/k) Furrygirl I think you're OWED an apology from Xbiz, that's really sloppy on their part. You could make some sort of defamation case but the damages would probably be $1. I definitely agree with Brad, you could have played this much better for publicity. You def OWE Quantum now!
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As I've repeatedly said, show me one other adult site that uses that font.
That font type is actually pretty common/popular. It's called Quigley Wiggly.

http://www.dafont.com/quigley-wiggly...text=furrygirl


I've used it myself a few times designing and seen it used many times in other paysite designs.

See I just ripped off your design. Plz don't sue me.


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I'm mad too cause nfl.com is using one of my background images and my fonts...woops wait a minute...I got it from them.


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I'm mad too cause nfl.com is using one of my background images and my fonts...woops wait a minute...I got it from them.


Oh yeah I forgot....The whole .com thing was my idea first too.
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That font type is actually pretty common/popular. It's called Quigley Wiggly.




I've used it myself a few times designing and seen it used many times in other paysite designs.

See I just ripped off your design. Plz don't sue me.
Now that I've had my little fun....Yes if I remember correctly....and I usually do good or bad bethandaaron dot com littlecindy dot com and a couple of others used almost an identical font and color scheme. God I'm old. LOL
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:02 AM   #142
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I guess I am lost. What part of the left side of that pic is supposed to resemble the right side? The font on leave and enter?
Even thats a fucking stretch.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:07 AM   #143
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OK, well, someone had to do it.

Incidentally, fluffygrrl, I think you're flipping out over nothing.
This is so incidental in the grand scheme of things, a mere fleck.

But yes, this is your page.



Favicons are the same



Make a note, never hire anyone from this thread to do print work.
The background colour isn't different at all, it's simply the CMYK version of her background.
Meaning: On screen, things are a mix of RGB [Red Green Blue]. For print, it's Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black. Not all RGB colours, particulally oranges and dark blues can be represented in CYMK, so they shift. And that's exactly what's happened here.
Take her site into photoshop, convert it to CYMK, you'll see it's the same.


Screenshot of her site, 50% overlayed on their shot, with perspective correction.

So yes, they're taken.

But seriously, wtf? Move on.

On the flipside: XBiz, spank your lazy designer.
hmmmm,,mmmm
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:15 AM   #144
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Too late sig spot...
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:17 AM   #145
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Too late sig spot...
Damm this thread is moving so fast
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:24 AM   #146
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Yes XBiz clearly ripped you off (or their designer did), but hey you seem to have no money and they seem to have a lot so you being the small business will always get fucked over with no recourse. Its how biz is done in this industry, just accept it and move on... you cant touch Xbiz otherwise you would have already.
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:31 AM   #147
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You're right- I probably am the only person who would notice, but does that make it okay for Xbiz to rip off smaller webmasters because it's easier than ripping off Bang Bus? If someone uploads my copyrighted material to a tube site, is that okay because I'm small? Either copyright infringement and ripping people off is okay, or it isn't. And it's the frosting on a shit cake that my work is being used in the kiddie porn graphic.
Is there a girl typing here?
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Old 03-23-2009, 06:40 AM   #148
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OK, well, someone had to do it.

Incidentally, fluffygrrl, I think you're flipping out over nothing.
This is so incidental in the grand scheme of things, a mere fleck.

But yes, this is your page.



Favicons are the same



Make a note, never hire anyone from this thread to do print work.
The background colour isn't different at all, it's simply the CMYK version of her background.
Meaning: On screen, things are a mix of RGB [Red Green Blue]. For print, it's Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black. Not all RGB colours, particulally oranges and dark blues can be represented in CYMK, so they shift. And that's exactly what's happened here.
Take her site into photoshop, convert it to CYMK, you'll see it's the same.


Screenshot of her site, 50% overlayed on their shot, with perspective correction.

So yes, they're taken.

But seriously, wtf? Move on.

On the flipside: XBiz, spank your lazy designer.
Nicely done.
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:24 AM   #149
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Wow... this thread has become alot more interesting...

Does anyone know of any other work that this same graphic artist has done? If so it would be interesting to see if this kind of thing has happened before. We all love XBIZ of course and if this person is taking shortcuts I'm sure they would like to know.
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:27 AM   #150
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Looks to me like she's got a legit gripe.

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