2257.com will be in PHX for the Forum

[TheAmericanCannibal]

http://www.2257safe.com I that is...am looking to set up as many appointments as possible with affiliate programs and affiliates that reside here in the states to let them know about our services.

I am sure that most of you will be blown away by the ease of use of our system, and for those of you who still don't comprehend the laws regarding 2257 and third party record keeping, we welcome your questions.

To set up some time in PHX please email me at [email protected] or [email protected]

[Intrinsic]

Very nice! I'm sure everyone knew this business model would come along after the last round of legislation was written. Good luck!

[Deej]

cliffnotes on your service...

collection and organization?

[PersianKitty]

And what do I do to schedule some girl time with the lovely Aaliyah??

[JFK]

see you guys there KB

[TheAmericanCannibal]

Originally Posted by Intrinsic

Very nice! I'm sure everyone knew this business model would come along after the last round of legislation was written. Good luck!

Thank you, it's been a lot of hard work on behalf of all the partners- but we left no stone unturned. From PCI Compliancy to E & O Insurance- no other company can offer a more comprehensive solution...not to mention an address of a law office in the San Fernando Valley for your address on record for all of your 2257 Custodial needs.

There is no reason to ever leave your home address, or office as the primary place of your records ever again.

Having the FEDS come in and do a thorough DOJ inspection is not fun, and can be a very stressful event to go through. We are here to help.

Our technology has already passed three DOJ inspections
:-))

[XPays]

i like this

[pornlaw]

Dan is putting the final touches on the programming and I am working on the legal aspects so that we may launch this shortly after Phoenix Forum...

Here are a couple of screen shots from www.2257Safe.com just so you guys have an idea of what the interface will look like.












And my email address if michael[at]fattlegal.com if anyone has any questions...

[kane]

Any rough idea what the prices for your service will be? I understand it will depend heavily on what the customer needs, but I'm curious about a ballpark figure. Mostly I am interested from an affiliate only standpoint. I use sponsor provided content and keep my own records now, but having a service like this would be nice.

[pornlaw]

$9.99 for up to 1 GB
$29.99 for up to 5 GBs
$49.99 for up to 10 GBs
$99.99 for up to 15 GBs
$149.99 for up to 20 GBs

All prices are monthly and charged to a credit card on file.

This is for hosting after an 80% compression of your current site. For example, if your site is 100 GBs it should compress down to a 20 GB on our servers. For sites for more than 100 GBs we will do custom quotes.

A copy of the content must be attached to the 2257 records and IDs.

[kane]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

$9.99 for up to 1 GB
$29.99 for up to 5 GBs
$49.99 for up to 10 GBs
$99.99 for up to 15 GBs
$149.99 for up to 20 GBs

All prices are monthly and charged to a credit card on file.

This is for hosting after an 80% compression of your current site. For example, if your site is 100 GBs it should compress down to a 20 GB on our servers. For sites for more than 100 GBs we will do custom quotes.

A copy of the content must be attached to the 2257 records and IDs.

Thanks. Than I have one other question. I don't have 1 big site. I have a ton of blogs and small free sites (as well as galleries for TGP's) so I am always building new stuff. Some of the blogs get updated regularly, but the small free sites and galleries pretty much get built, submitted and forgotten about. So for someone like me my records are always growing. Would I need to then compress and send each new site to you every week (or day or month or however often it is needed) and with the blogs if you compress my blogs as I update do you just compress the new one and replace the old version with the new version?

[WarChild]

The first thing that sprang to mind when I read this thread was "Anybody that trusts that idiot KB with their record keeping will surely deserve whatever they get.". It wasn't until later when Chad chimed in that I realized that there's probably some people involved in this business venture that do know what they're talking about.

Why anybody would link their product to KB still baffles me. Why wouldn't you get a front man with slightly more credibility? Like maybe an old box of donuts or something.

[Stephen]

Looks great and I love that your example uses New Hampshire IDs

I have two more you can add

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by WarChild

The first thing that sprang to mind when I read this thread was "Anybody that trusts that idiot KB with their record keeping will surely deserve whatever they get.". It wasn't until later when Chad chimed in that I realized that there's probably some people involved in this business venture that do know what they're talking about.

Why anybody would link their product to KB still baffles me. Why wouldn't you get a front man with slightly more credibility? Like maybe an old box of donuts or something.

Ouch.

The service looks good.

[pornlaw]

So for someone like me my records are always growing. Would I need to then compress and send each new site to you every week (or day or month or however often it is needed) and with the blogs if you compress my blogs as I update do you just compress the new one and replace the old version with the new version?

You are just uploading and keeping a copy of the content and the docs/IDs. As you add content, you upload the content as well as the 2257 docs and IDs that correspond to those pics or videos. With this system, it grows with your site.

You wont need to compress anything, the software does it automatically.

As for old versions, those should not be deleted. Once they are published, you need to keep the records in case of an inspection.

[Templar]

Looks like a great service! I know a couple webmasters who'll find this interesting!

[kane]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

You are just uploading and keeping a copy of the content and the docs/IDs. As you add content, you upload the content as well as the 2257 docs and IDs that correspond to those pics or videos. With this system, it grows with your site.

You wont need to compress anything, the software does it automatically.

As for old versions, those should not be deleted. Once they are published, you need to keep the records in case of an inspection.

Okay. I think I understand it now.

Basically if I update my blog with a couple of new pictures or a new movie I just upload that content and any docs that go with it into the system and put in the corresponding urls. No need to compress the whole site.

Correct?

Thanks for the info.

[pornlaw]

One other thing....

When we launch in April, it will be to limited number of clients for the first couple of months.

If you are interested in being one of the first, please go to www.2257Safe.com and enter your information so we can add you to the email list.

[pornlaw]

Basically if I update my blog with a couple of new pictures or a new movie I just upload that content and any docs that go with it into the system and put in the corresponding urls. No need to compress the whole site.

Correct?

That is correct.

[riddler]

Originally Posted by WarChild

The first thing that sprang to mind when I read this thread was "Anybody that trusts that idiot KB with their record keeping will surely deserve whatever they get.". It wasn't until later when Chad chimed in that I realized that there's probably some people involved in this business venture that do know what they're talking about.

Why anybody would link their product to KB still baffles me. Why wouldn't you get a front man with slightly more credibility? Like maybe an old box of donuts or something.

so true, so true... but it seems like the bullshitters and asskissers always get business they shouldnt have and people fall for the bullshitting and asskissing everytime.

[MikeSmoke]

Is there anything planned for importing data from existing standalong 2257 programs - or would someone with 10 years worth of data have to start from scratch with your system?

[TheAmericanCannibal]

Originally Posted by WarChild

The first thing that sprang to mind when I read this thread was "Anybody that trusts that idiot KB with their record keeping will surely deserve whatever they get.". It wasn't until later when Chad chimed in that I realized that there's probably some people involved in this business venture that do know what they're talking about.

Why anybody would link their product to KB still baffles me. Why wouldn't you get a front man with slightly more credibility? Like maybe an old box of donuts or something.

Front man?
I am an owner.

You are a hater which means- I love you.
Without haters like you...no one would know who I am so THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart and I will pray for you that sometime in the near future your anger and jealousy will subside with me.

Especially since you have NEVER met me or know me.

[TheAmericanCannibal]

Originally Posted by MikeSmoke

Is there anything planned for importing data from existing standalong 2257 programs - or would someone with 10 years worth of data have to start from scratch with your system?

It would all depend on how you stuff is formatted but as Michael mentioned earlier your information would still need to be compressed.

Email us, and we'll talk more about your options.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Front man?
I am an owner.

You are a hater which means- I love you.
Without haters like you...no one would know who I am so THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart and I will pray for you that sometime in the near future your anger and jealousy will subside with me.

Especially since you have NEVER met me or know me.

An owner, eh? How did you ever manage that? Low buy in that you could afford after selling your used "pimp" suits?

I don't hate you, I find you entertaining. You think haters make you known? I have some bad news for you on that front. You're pretty much unknown, despite your best attempts to advertise yourself. You're not the celebrity you might think you are, despite being a VIP audience member at the Tonight Show. It's not like out of 100 random people even 1 would pick you out as a celebrity. The only person I've ever heard say anything good about KB is well, KB.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by XPays

i like this

I am waiting for next Tmz Bizzzzzzzzzzzle Bomb Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Juicy D. Links]

bizzle i just emailed u

[TheAmericanCannibal]

Originally Posted by WarChild

An owner, eh? How did you ever manage that? Low buy in that you could afford after selling your used "pimp" suits?

I don't hate you, I find you entertaining. You think haters make you known? I have some bad news for you on that front. You're pretty much unknown, despite your best attempts to advertise yourself. You're not the celebrity you might think you are, despite being a VIP audience member at the Tonight Show. It's not like out of 100 random people even 1 would pick you out as a celebrity. The only person I've ever heard say anything good about KB is well, KB.

Funny.
If you Google me there seems to be plenty of people who know who I am .
Not to mention the retarded fan emails I have received for two years everytime my movie airs on TV.

I am sure you have the same kind of following- using your REAL name?
I guess it's even funnier then that I have a reality show in development with a huge production company in Hollywood- and guess what?

They SOUGHT ME OUT.
Maybe if you didn't live in a third world country you'd get it more.

I understand your dilemma.
I am not popular in the Latin speaking countries outside of Spain.

I am HUGE in Spain.


Furthermore- if you buy into my board persona you are just as naive as the rest of the idiots who ewatched my movie and asked me " What happened to the girl?"

[Juicy D. Links]

is it wrong to stare at old mens penises in the gym locker room?

[TheAmericanCannibal]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

I am waiting for next Tmz Bizzzzzzzzzzzle Bomb Thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

U missed it-
I leaked the story about Bruce Willis getting married on Parrot Cay in the Turks and caicos to the National Enquirer.

I also lost a LOT of money on the deal.
Maybe Warchild is right...I have no credibility after all.

I mean who would run and print a story I gave them ?

Oh wait let me see....People Mag, Star Mag, TMZ, National Enquirer, TheDirty.com, Perezhilton.com ,E online.com etc.


That's who.

Juicy u better be in PHX- I need a bro hug

[johnuno11]

Very fucking nice my friend!

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Funny.
If you Google me there seems to be plenty of people who know who I am .
Not to mention the retarded fan emails I have received for two years everytime my movie airs on TV.

I am sure you have the same kind of following- using your REAL name?
I guess it's even funnier then that I have a reality show in development with a huge production company in Hollywood- and guess what?

They SOUGHT ME OUT.
Maybe if you didn't live in a third world country you'd get it more.

I understand your dilemma.
I am not popular in the Latin speaking countries outside of Spain.

I am HUGE in Spain.

I don't have any following using my real name. I can accept that I'm not a celebrity. I don't have to try and force myself in to the spot light.

I guess we'll see how your reality show works out. I'm guessing big fail. If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll gladly say it.

Maybe I can highlight the situation for you a little easier with pictures and google (since you seem to like google).


Kevin Blatt - Marketing himself on the Internet for what, 10 years?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Kevin+Blatt
Results 1 - 10 of about 215,000 for Kevin Blatt.


Boxxy - Internet Meme. No marketing done at all.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Boxxy
Results 1 - 10 of about 324,000 for Boxxy

How long did it take you marketing yourself as hard as you could to reach about half the celebrity status of a goofy looking girl posted on 4chan? Yeah, you're a celebrity alright.

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

Juicy u better be in PHX- I need a bro hug

Wont be in Phx this year man , JDL is taking a long hiatus from shows will be awhile till I make a return tbh

[Juicy D. Links]

All I gotta say is bizzle snores like a fucking herd of 40 cows

[Juicy D. Links]

[Jman]

This is HOT, nicely done.

[PersianKitty]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Wont be in Phx this year man , JDL is taking a long hiatus from shows will be awhile till I make a return tbh

(whine) I'm never going to get to me the Juicy one.

[WebairGerard]

Looking good guys! KB lets meet in PHX for sure. I'll contact you to schedule. Dan going too?

[Juicy D. Links]

Originally Posted by WebairGerard

Looking good guys! KB lets meet in PHX for sure. I'll contact you to schedule. Dan going too?

bizzzle snores!!!!!!!!!!

[Robbie]

Let me ask a dumb question...Are you basically saying that to use this service you would need to upload your entire members area to your servers?

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by TheAmericanCannibal

...I also lost a LOT of money on the deal...

So there won't be a used suit sale this month then?

[pornlaw]

While KB argues his celebrity status, let me take this one...

Are you basically saying that to use this service you would need to upload your entire members area to your servers?

Hey Robbie -- if the site is too large, you can send a hard drive of your content to our hosting company and they will upload it directly. It will be compressed automatically.

You would then need to upload the 2257 docs and IDs and then attached them to the corresponding content.

[TheAmericanCannibal]

Michael I am definitely a celebrity, right?
:-))


hahahaha

[WarChild]

At this point I should point out that I may have confused Pornlaw with Chadknowslaw? I'm not sure if it's the same person or two completely different people. In either case, that's the reference to Chad I made.

Further, I have no reason to doubt the compitence of Pornlaw and in that regard I'd be confident that this new service meets all the legal criteria.

So in short, I have no reason to believe this won't be a great service. I'm just surprised anything that includes KB would ever be great, being as he's such an enormous tool.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Wont be in Phx this year man , JDL is taking a long hiatus from shows will be awhile till I make a return tbh

But who will have the poolside suite????

[PSSuperstars]

I know that this is a LIFESAVER for a lot of independent cam girls... and female talent in the phone sex industry.

THANK YOU

[MikeSmoke]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Hey Robbie -- if the site is too large, you can send a hard drive of your content to our hosting company and they will upload it directly. It will be compressed automatically.

You would then need to upload the 2257 docs and IDs and then attached them to the corresponding content.

Michael - it's a great idea. The "problem" is that (unless I'm missing something) many, many years' worth of data entry would have to be completely redone

[Ycaza]

i got the lowdown from kb and it is very cool

[Ozarkz]

You have to upload the content along with the identification and contracts?

I think it's going to take a while to gain people's trust on this.

Having PornLaw a part of it is key tho.

[pornlaw]

At this point I should point out that I may have confused Pornlaw with Chadknowslaw? I'm not sure if it's the same person or two completely different people.

I am not Chad, but I have alot of respect for him. He's a stand up guy.

Further, I have no reason to doubt the compitence of Pornlaw and in that regard I'd be confident that this new service meets all the legal criteria.

Thanks Warchild.

I know that this is a LIFESAVER for a lot of independent cam girls... and female talent in the phone sex industry.

Thanks.... we really feel that the small to medium websites are our target market. The big guys already have their 2257 solutions in place and have had them for years...

Michael - it's a great idea. The "problem" is that (unless I'm missing something) many, many years' worth of data entry would have to be completely redone

We realize www.2257Safe.com isnt for everyone. But I will talk to Dan, our programming partner, and ask if there is a script that can be written to import existing data into our system.

You have to upload the content along with the identification and contracts?

I think it's going to take a while to gain people's trust on this.

Having PornLaw a part of it is key tho.

Per 28 CFR 75 a copy of the depiction (pics/vids) has to be kept with the docs & IDs.
However, the content will be so compressed at upload it will not be of a quality that can be used commercially. Also, the media server will be behind a PCI compliant firewall, no one will want or be able to get to it anyway.

[MikeSmoke]

Originally Posted by pornlaw

We realize www.2257Safe.com isnt for everyone. But I will talk to Dan, our programming partner, and ask if there is a script that can be written to import existing data into our system.

Thanks...I think there are only a couple of major 2257 systems currently out there, so it would (I think) make business sense if your system could take those major databases and directly import the data from them - since that could significantly increase the client base.