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escorpio · 06-14-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Good.

If you are from Russia and you are born in America, you are still a fucking Russian. People need to deal with that and stop being cry babies.

How can you be from Russia if you're born in America?

Congrats, you just beat "half-illegal" for dumbest thing posted in this thread.

Amputate Your Head · 06-14-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Good.

If you are from Russia and you are born in America, you are still a fucking Russian. People need to deal with that and stop being cry babies.

Oh, so sorry. Try again.

If you are born in this country, you are American. Not Russian. Not Finnish. Not Danish. Not French. Not Mongolian. We aren't conceived in the womb as Russian or American. Where you are born is important.

If a group of people take off in a rocket and go to another planet, and then have a few babies, are they Russian or American babies? Or are they new citizens of the planet they are on? Russia and America are a few billion light years away from them and have zero relevance.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Good.

If you are from Russia and you are born in America, you are still a fucking Russian. People need to deal with that and stop being cry babies.

Are you talking heritage or citizenship?
We have african americans, irish americans, chinese americans and so on. Whats your point?

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

150 Half Illegals

"Half illegal"?

If they are half illegal, and the punishment for being an illegal is deportation, how do you propose to half punish them? Make them live on the border? Alternate years of deportation? They can live here every other year and have to live in Mexico the other half?

That's a POV that went off the rails.

He has yet to figure that one out.
He's half pregnant with Rodrigo's baby.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

150 Half Illegals

"Half illegal"?

If they are half illegal, and the punishment for being an illegal is deportation, how do you propose to half punish them? Make them live on the border? Alternate years of deportation? They can live here every other year and have to live in Mexico the other half?

That's a POV that went off the rails.

Like that don't ya? If you use it, be sure to give me credit

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Oh, so sorry. Try again.

If you are born in this country, you are American. Not Russian. Not Finnish. Not Danish. Not French. Not Mongolian. We aren't conceived in the womb as Russian or American. Where you are born is important.

If a group of people take off in a rocket and go to another planet, and then have a few babies, are they Russian or American babies? Or are they new citizens of the planet they are on? Russia and America are a few billion light years away from them and have zero relevance.

If you're born here by Russian parents (Russian Citizens) and you leave to go back and live in Russia, you're not an American Citizen, you will be a Russian Citizen that was born in America. If they stayed here, did all the goodies like say some illegals do - that would be different.

Amputate Your Head · 06-14-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

If you're born here by Russian parents (Russian Citizens) and you leave to go back and live in Russia, you're not an American Citizen, you will be a Russian Citizen that was born in America. If they stayed here, did all the goodies like say some illegals do - that would be different.

I agree, but being "illegal" or "legal" is only a matter of a piece of paper. Same as being "married" or "not-married", organ donor or not-an-organ-donor, licensed driver or unlicensed non-driver, etc... . It doesn't hinge on whether your parents were white people from Ohio or hispanic people from Juarez.

dyna mo · 06-14-2010, 11:09 AM

where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

Amputate Your Head · 06-14-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

That's an interesting question....

As a US citizen, I can apply for the proper docs to become a Mexican citizen, and still retain my US Citizenship. Mexico's laws prohibit me from ever voting in their elections even as a new citizen, but I have no idea what the options are if I were to have a child in Mexico (in that scenario). Would they be granted full dual-citizenship with voting rights in both countries? I have no clue.

EDIT: I'm sure this is happening all the time, since there are millions of Americans living in Mexico with dual citizenship, I just don't know the answer.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

Be quiet. We don't want his pea brain to explode.
If you were born in the USA from let say Russian parents, you have a choice to select one or keep both citizenships on your 18th birthday.

brassmonkey · 06-14-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

that's when you gain it legally. i know a few with dual citizenship.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

where does dual citizenship fit into all of this?

Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975. My dad can claim citizenship in the UK because he was born in the UK, however he's only a U.S. Citizen. He didn't become a UK citizen simply because he was born in the UK, but because he was born before 1975 he can request it.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

That's an interesting question....

As a US citizen, I can apply for the proper docs to become a Mexican citizen, and still retain my US Citizenship. Mexico's laws prohibit me from ever voting in their elections even as a new citizen, but I have no idea what the options are if I were to have a child in Mexico (in that scenario). Would they be granted full dual-citizenship with voting rights in both countries? I have no clue.

Mexico has 2 different categories - mexican citizens and mexican nationals.
Do some googling. Kinda interesting concept.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975. My dad can claim citizenship in the UK because he was born in the UK, however he's only a U.S. Citizen. He didn't become a UK citizen simply because he was born in the UK, but because he was born before 1975 he can request it.

Are you drunk or something? Normally you have to be born before 1975? WTF?
I know plenty of people with dual citizenships. They use US passport to get out of the country and use the other one to enter the country they are from.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Are you drunk or something? Normally you have to be born before 1975? WTF?
I know plenty of people with dual citizenships. They use US passport to get out of the country and use the other one to enter the country they are from.

Hey stupid... we're talking about birth rights, not people moving and legally immigrating to countries.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 11:22 AM

Brief overview on dual citizenship

In general, countries define citizenship based on one's descent, place of birth, marriage, and/or naturalization. That is, you might be a citizen of a given country for one or more of the following reasons:

You were born on territory belonging to, or claimed by, that country (often called ius soli, or sometimes jus soli -- Latin for "right of the soil").
One or both of your parents were citizens of that country (often called ius sanguinis or jus sanguinis -- Latin for "right of the blood").
You married a citizen of that country (though please note that the practice of granting immediate, automatic citizenship to a foreign spouse is far less prevalent today than it was decades ago).
You (or one or both of your parents) obtained that country's citizenship by going through a legal process of naturalization.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Hey stupid... we're talking about birth rights, not people moving and legally immigrating to countries.

Dumb ass, that's why I told you about Jus soli.
Different countries have different rules. Your daddy's case could be entirely different from others.
I know one guy that served in Afghanistan and went on to serve with some bad ass Rangers. When he was 9 month old, he was adopted by American parents from Columbia. Army found out and made him renounce his Columbian citizenship. he has never been to Columbia or ever held Columbian passport BUT he was a dual citizen.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Brief overview on dual citizenship

In general, countries define citizenship based on one's descent, place of birth, marriage, and/or naturalization. That is, you might be a citizen of a given country for one or more of the following reasons:

You were born on territory belonging to, or claimed by, that country (often called ius soli, or sometimes jus soli -- Latin for "right of the soil").
One or both of your parents were citizens of that country (often called ius sanguinis or jus sanguinis -- Latin for "right of the blood").
You married a citizen of that country (though please note that the practice of granting immediate, automatic citizenship to a foreign spouse is far less prevalent today than it was decades ago).
You (or one or both of your parents) obtained that country's citizenship by going through a legal process of naturalization.

Thank you, captain obvious. Thank god for that google.com website.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Dumb ass, that's why I told you about Jus soli.
Different countries have different rules. Your daddy's case could be entirely different from others.
I know one guy that served in Afghanistan and went on to serve with some bad ass Rangers. When he was 9 month old, he was adopted by American parents from Columbia. Army found out and made him renounce his Columbian citizenship. he has never been to Columbia or ever held Columbian passport BUT he was a dual citizen.

Then he clearly was a Columbian Citizen when he was adopted, and I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both. That's how Columbia runs it I guess and an example of America dealing with special situations.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Thank you, captain obvious. Thank god for that google.com website.

Ummm... someone asked shit stain, so it's polite to provide the info..

brassmonkey · 06-14-2010, 11:35 AM

a fight!

Amputate Your Head · 06-14-2010, 11:37 AM

I love these discussions, but I'm really turned off by all the unnecessary insult slinging.... "idiot", "moron", "dumb ass", "shit stain", etc..... I've been trying to remain very conscious of it and not fall into it myself. I don't think it helps get a point across.

just my

continue....

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Then he clearly was a Columbian Citizen when he was adopted, and I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both. That's how Columbia runs it I guess and an example of America dealing with special situations.

Numb nuts, he had to renounce Columbian citizenship because he joined some elite unit in US army. Had nothing to do with 1975 birth or what ever. Where are you getting this 1975 crap?
This is probably why he had to do it:

"However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there"

Here moron, read this:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1753.html

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I love these discussions, but I'm really turned off by all the unnecessary insult slinging.... "idiot", "moron", "dumb ass", "shit stain", etc..... I've been trying to remain very conscious of it and not fall into it myself. I don't think it helps get a point across.

just my

continue....

I think this guy is either fucking with us or wants to impress someone with his knowledge (more lack of it). He is absolutely clueless.

dyna mo · 06-14-2010, 12:43 PM

thx for the comments re: dual citizenship. i've learned a lot in this thread so far, but amputate is correct, gotta sift through all the name calling. that's gfy!

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I love these discussions, but I'm really turned off by all the unnecessary insult slinging.... "idiot", "moron", "dumb ass", "shit stain", etc..... I've been trying to remain very conscious of it and not fall into it myself. I don't think it helps get a point across.

just my

continue....

Any reference of that on my part isn't directed at you...

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Numb nuts, he had to renounce Columbian citizenship because he joined some elite unit in US army. Had nothing to do with 1975 birth or what ever. Where are you getting this 1975 crap?
This is probably why he had to do it:

"However, dual nationals owe allegiance to both the United States and the foreign country. They are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if the person later travels there"

Here moron, read this:

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_p.../cis_1753.html

Aye, as I said he had Citizenship he got when he was born in that Country... and as I stated that's one of many reasons, ie: many situations

One of which I repeated for my family, if his situation is different, then that's expected...

I don't know what's more pathetic though, your reading skills or your ability to twist shit into stupid ass directions.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

a fight!

He's standing on the other side of the wall throwing bad words... I'm not border patrol, I won't shoot him for it but I might yell back.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Aye, as I said he had Citizenship he got when he was born in that Country... and as I stated that's one of many reasons, ie: many situations

One of which I repeated for my family, if his situation is different, then that's expected...

I don't know what's more pathetic though, your reading skills or your ability to twist shit into stupid ass directions.

unfucking real. Im the one here that can't read?
Lets see:

" Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975"

and this is you "ASSumption" about my friend

" I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both"

WTF ? Please explain this to me. Please explain how you shitty brain functions here and how is this "about your family and your daddy". 1975. WTF is with normally and 1975?
normally ??? For who? You daddy?

Fuckit. Just turn off your router. Unplug yourself from the rest of us.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

He's standing on the other side of the wall throwing bad words... I'm not border patrol, I won't shoot him for it but I might yell back.

We don't sell guns to mental patients.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

thx for the comments re: dual citizenship. i've learned a lot in this thread so far, but amputate is correct, gotta sift through all the name calling. that's gfy!

Ok, so whats with 1975?

dyna mo · 06-14-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Ok, so whats with 1975?

what do you mean?

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

unfucking real. Im the one here that can't read?
Lets see:

" Special situations today... normally you have be born before 1975"

and this is you "ASSumption" about my friend

" I assume because was born after 1975 he can't keep both"

WTF ? Please explain this to me. Please explain how you shitty brain functions here and how is this "about your family and your daddy". 1975. WTF is with normally and 1975?
normally ??? For who? You daddy?

Fuckit. Just turn off your router. Unplug yourself from the rest of us.

See the word "assume" or is this your reading skills again?

If you weren't such a prick.... I might entertain educating you, but being that you're a prick and a troll, you can suck a nut.

How about you research why the year 1975 is so damn important to dual citizenship status all over the world and then look at my org statement again. Prick.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

See the word "assume" or is this your reading skills again?

If you weren't such a prick.... I might entertain educating you, but being that you're a prick and a troll, you can suck a nut.

How about you research why the year 1975 is so damn important to dual citizenship status all over the world and then look at my org statement again. Prick.

There is nothing about 1975 you dumb fuck. NOTHING.
There is NOTHING to assume if you DO NOT KNOW any better.
I gave you link to fucking gov site. Nothing about age.

Fucking imbecile. Find me where it states born before 1975. I dare you./ FIND IT NOW !!! Its an order.
GO !!!!

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

what do you mean?

What diud you learn about being born before 1975 and dual citizenship. because I have no clue what fucktard Doc is talking about.

dyna mo · 06-14-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

What diud you learn about being born before 1975 and dual citizenship. because I have no clue what fucktard Doc is talking about.

i was speaking about the thread, in general. it's caused me to do some reading up on all the different matters. i'm not going to get into the fight.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 02:01 PM

Here dipshit, google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

So is your father German or British?

Motherfucker doesn't know his fathers roots and here he is talking shit about it.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i was speaking about the thread, in general. it's caused me to do some reading up on all the different matters. i'm not going to get into the fight.

Is there anyway you can teach that to shit for brains doc?
His entire knowledge of this matter is based on what his german/english (we're about to find out he is actually a Turk) daddy told him.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Here dipshit, google:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai=

So is your father German or British?

Motherfucker doesn't know his fathers roots and here he is talking shit about it.

Well at least we know you can do some searches using Google... but you clearly can't read.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Well at least we know you can do some searches using Google... but you clearly can't read.

and Under rock you crawl.
So is your daddy german or what? Close enough. English, german.. same shit.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

and Under rock you crawl.
So is your daddy german or what? Close enough. English, german.. same shit.

I forgive you man... English isn't your first language, I can't expect you to understand how to use Google let alone read it.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 02:14 PM

what a quack

german, english. Oh fuck it, something from that part of town.

WHAT AN IDIOT

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

what a quack

german, english. Oh fuck it, something from that part of town.

WHAT AN IDIOT

You don't get any trolling points, but I will add a few to your level of stupidity. Here, let me give you a hint. It's more than Germany, lots more... or maybe if you knew the proper names of Countries it would help.

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I forgive you man... English isn't your first language, I can't expect you to understand how to use Google let alone read it.

Best you could come up with?

So let us see the quote from google about US dual citizenship and 1975 ..

lets see it, hombre. Oh god, I wish there were deportation rules for useless tools like this doc guy.
Send his aSs to Africa or some other remote place. Australia maybe?

Pics Traffic · 06-14-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

You don't get any trolling points, but I will add a few to your level of stupidity. Here, let me give you a hint. It's more than Germany, lots more... or maybe if you knew the proper names of Countries it would help.

We get it. He dumped you two. You've never seen the guy. All you heard is the story of what a man he was.
Got it. German, English, frenchie.. Mommy just couldn't keep a lie.

PS: What are two fighting about?

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

You don't get any trolling points, but I will add a few to your level of stupidity. Here, let me give you a hint. It's more than Germany, lots more... or maybe if you knew the proper names of Countries it would help.

WTF Germany has to do with US citizenship rules?
Where does it say USA and 1975 birth rule.
Show me now !!!

brassmonkey · 06-14-2010, 02:24 PM

Doc please dont feed the ape. he's trying to piss you off.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb

Best you could come up with?

So let us see the quote from google about US dual citizenship and 1975 ..

lets see it, hombre. Oh god, I wish there were deportation rules for useless tools like this doc guy.
Send his aSs to Africa or some other remote place. Australia maybe?

I get plenty of Countries and history of changes when I do my research... Hell even a simple search like: dual citizenship and 1975 returns various Countries of current time that have this set, looks like Canada recently updated to0.

This is truly the lamest trolling job, ever...

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-14-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Doc please dont feed the ape. he's trying to piss you off.

TheDoc · 06-14-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Doc please dont feed the ape. he's trying to piss you off.

Honestly... I'm 0% pissed and 100% finding it funny, he's a half illegal and he's pissed off about it.

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Brief overview on dual citizenship In general, countries define citizenship based on one's descent, place of birth, marriage, and/or naturalization. That is, you might be a citizen of a given country for one or more of the following reasons: You were born on territory belonging to, or claimed by, that country (often called ius soli, or sometimes jus soli -- Latin for "right of the soil"). One or both of your parents were citizens of that country (often called ius sanguinis or jus sanguinis -- Latin for "right of the blood"). You married a citizen of that country (though please note that the practice of granting immediate, automatic citizenship to a foreign spouse is far less prevalent today than it was decades ago). You (or one or both of your parents) obtained that country's citizenship by going through a legal process of naturalization. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexifornia Posts: 970	Here dipshit, google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...=&oq=&gs_rfai= So is your father German or British? Motherfucker doesn't know his fathers roots and here he is talking shit about it.

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Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexifornia Posts: 970	what a quack german, english. Oh fuck it, something from that part of town. WHAT AN IDIOT