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Old 08-13-2010, 09:18 PM   #101
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is it any wonder a horse falater like you would think relativism is poison

take your absolute views of the world and go choke on a cock idiot
Wtf is a falater? Are you braindead (rhetorical question)? And you realize relativism and universal can coexist, right? Of course you don't because you're a moron.
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:19 PM   #102
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Haha, my venomous breath? I love arguing with adults who possess a child's IQ.
Yeah, but I don't, so start saying something intelligent so I can enjoy this.


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Other than the Liberals gave us freedom of speech.
Yup, classical liberalism which largely coincides with modern conservatism. Modern liberalism is a perversion of both. You can thank the counterculture.
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Yeah, but I don't, so start saying something intelligent so I can enjoy this.


"I know you are but what am I" see? Too easy
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I believe all religious nuts should have equal rights.
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the tea party seems to be embracing it as a wedge issue.

the article contains an illustration of the proposed building.



http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/..._ground_z.html

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A National Tea Party leader protesting a proposed mosque near Ground Zero set off a firestorm of anger Wednesday by saying that Muslims worship "the terrorists' monkey god."

Mark Williams, chairman of the Tea Party Express, blogged about the 13-story mosque and Islamic cultural center planned at Park Place and Broadway, calling it a monument to the 9/11 terrorists.

"The monument would consist of a Mosque for the worship of the terrorists' monkey-god," Williams, a frequent guest on CNN, wrote on his Web site.

His statements drew a sharp rebuke from City Hall and the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a national Muslim civil rights and advocacy group.

"It's appalling," a spokesman for Mayor Bloomberg said of Williams' comments, adding that the land is private and is zoned for a number of uses including a religious facility.

"It would be shocking if such ignorant comments failed to elicit a strong response not only from Tea Party leaders, but from other parties throughout the political spectrum," said Corey Saylor, the Muslim rights group's national legislative director.

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The downtown project is being spearheaded by the Cordoba Initiative and the American Society for Muslim Advancement. Neither group had any immediate response to Williams' comments.

The glass-and-steel building - which would also include a 500-seat performing arts venue, a swimming pool and a basketball court - would be built two blocks from the World Trade Center site, in the old Burlington Coat Factory.

This month, Community Board 1's financial district committee unanimously approved the project.

In an e-mail to the Daily News, Williams was unapologetic - saying his comments were specifically aimed at the terrorists, which he described as "the animals of Allah."

"If CAIR equates terrorists with Muslims then they apparently have a little [political correctness] problem of their own now don't they?" Williams said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...xzz0wYFBy1 71
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Yup, classical liberalism which largely coincides with modern conservatism. Modern liberalism is a perversion of both. You can thank the counterculture.
No part of classic liberalism, ever... relates to anything that conservatives think today or actually do. Other than maybe the idea of limited government, but it's not like other groups/parties don't think that way. The rest of of it's values, do not match up or related to current conservatives at all. However, it exactly matches the social ideals of modern liberalism - which is vastly different than what conservatives think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

Go educate yourself...
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Nothing good can come of this mosque, it has enraged a nation and will be a target just as Obama is now revealed for the true traitor that he is.

Mark my words, bookmark this post, this was a HUGE mistake for Obama.
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I would but you're known to post things that directly contradict your point in which case you start deflecting. I would love to get into a philosophical and fundamental debate regarding classical liberalism vs. Modern liberalism vs. Modern conservatism but I rightly suspect you know very little about either ideology.
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Nothing good can come of this mosque, it has enraged a nation and will be a target just as Obama is now revealed for the true traitor that he is.

Mark my words, bookmark this post, this was a HUGE mistake for Obama.
The media was all over this, stupid ass press people kept asking him about it... it's not like it's just some news topic that hit the wire.

And now look at people like yourself, the mosque has enraged a nation... of what, stupid people? Our nation was built on freedoms and now people like you piss on those freedoms?

Fuck off shit stain... if you don't like it you're also free to leave.
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Haha another shitstain. Thedoc is the poster child for severe brain trauma.
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I would but you're known to post things that directly contradict your point in which case you start deflecting. I would love to get into a philosophical and fundamental debate regarding classical liberalism vs. Modern liberalism vs. Modern conservatism but I rightly suspect you know very little about either ideology.
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Haha another shitstain. Thedoc is the poster child for severe brain trauma.
Oh look, opening your cock holster with nothing to actually say again... Shocker!
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The media was all over this, stupid ass press people kept asking him about it... it's not like it's just some news topic that hit the wire.
Presidents dont say things off the cuff, this was a calculated attack on those who disagree with him on this matter and that is a MAJORITY of Americans.

Obama IS a muslim, his true colors were shown last night and in the morning things will never be the same. He has PROVEN his allegiance is not to this republic.
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People usually have nothing to say to you other than insults because lets face it.. You're a naive moron who is here for our amusement. If you had basic knowledge in anything that would be an accomplishment.
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Presidents dont say things off the cuff, this was a calculated attack on those who disagree with him on this matter and that is a MAJORITY of Americans.

Obama IS a muslim, his true colors were shown last night and in the morning things will never be the same. He has PROVED his allegiance is not to this republic.
You are arguing with the dumbest human being on a porn forum. Why? Let him take his meds and go to sleep.
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Presidents dont say things off the cuff, this was a calculated attack on those who disagree with him on this matter and that is a MAJORITY of Americans.

Obama IS a muslim, his true colors were shown last night and in the morning things will never be the same. He has PROVEN his allegiance is not to this republic.
You and The Demon are Muslims... that's the only facts that have been proven around here.
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Its funny doc is the one who fought for our freedoms and others are saying he doesnt understand.
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Its funny doc is the one who fought for our freedoms and others are saying he doesnt understand.
sure he did. Call of duty doesn't count. But then again, apparently I'm a Muslim rofl.
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Presidents dont say things off the cuff, this was a calculated attack on those who disagree with him on this matter and that is a MAJORITY of Americans.

Obama IS a muslim, his true colors were shown last night and in the morning things will never be the same. He has PROVEN his allegiance is not to this republic.
He's much more likely to be an atheist than a Muslim. Very few of our leaders really believe in deities. Most truly intelligent people don't believe in any organized religion.
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Its funny doc is the one who fought for our freedoms and others are saying he doesnt understand.
Oh shut the fuck up I served in the United States Army, big fucking deal, none of you fuckers appreciate anything the military does anyways.
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He's much more likely to be an atheist than a Muslim. Very few of our leaders really believe in deities. Most truly intelligent people don't believe in any organized religion.
Of course you can back up this nonsense right? I only ask because the biggest morons here and everywhere happen to be atheists.

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He's much more likely to be an atheist than a Muslim. Very few of our leaders really believe in deities. Most truly intelligent people don't believe in any organized religion.
You cannot be intelligent and believe in nothing.
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You cannot be intelligent and believe in nothing.
You can believe in mankind!
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So if a Mormon raped your wife and murdered your child and when he got out he bought the house next door and every day came out and said "Hello neighbor God Bless" you wouldnt go fucking ballistic.

Fuck you too, I suspect you have no allegiance to this country at all.
Atta bought the mosque ???? Damn
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Of course you can back up this nonsense right? I only ask because the biggest morons here and everywhere happen to be atheists.
Most politicians don't believe in deities, most 8+ year college graduates don't. Politicians have been lying about their belief in Zeus/god since the time of the Greeks and Romans. It's common knowledge to any educated person. It's so easy to fool the common populace when they believe you are following the will of their god.

Only problem is that you occasionally get true believer nuts like Palin in the mix and if these people gain power civilization crumbles as they are too ignorant to deal with the real responsibilities of leadership.

And the biggest morons here are usually the hardcore religious types. The atheists and the agnostics/deists are usually the ones that have something intelligent to say.
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Nice work to the The Demon, looks like you have this thread under control as usual
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It is Mosque and Community Center!
It is only 2 Blocks away!

"President Barack Obama on Friday endorsed plans for a Muslim mosque two blocks from ground zero in New York City"

With that said I do agree with Obama on this he said!
"Obama said Islam is not the enemy, al-Qaida is"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38698500...s-white_house/

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"Obama said Islam is not the enemy, al-Qaida is"
Obama is the enemy.
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He might be, never know. BUT you are taking this to a Stupid Level!
Many more issues to be worried about!
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And to those that say atheists are idiots because they don't believe in anything I say this.

"To believe that a father in the sky created all things only takes the mind of a child. To believe in a deeper answer takes the mind of a giant"

These are ancient manuscripts that you guys get your beliefs from. To sane person would believe in such things. Creative force is one thing but to blindly follow ancient religions is another.
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Nothing like watching religious folk squirm over other religions, all because of stories written by other men.
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I say burn down all churches. And religions.
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I say burn down all churches. And religions.
No, because they will just build them again. we need to keep trying to teach them the truth. Sooner or later the truth always wins.
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Btw it's not a "victory" mosque. Bin Laden blow up everyone. Mosques and muslims included.

The ones behind the spread of Islam in western countries are the rich oil men from Saudi. They have been doing that since the 70's. Selling cheap oil in return for political favors. Politicians will not break that contract as long our economy depends on oil.
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apparently there is anti-mosque shit being stirred up in several states, way to go republicans!
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apparently there is anti-mosque shit being stirred up in several states, way to go republicans!
Supposedly, just above it was a new thing nobody had ever heard of until Obama spoke of it out of the blue for no reason at all....oh yeah, the reason was he is a Muslim, no other reason of course.
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70 percent of Americans OPPOSE THE MOSQUE.
He wont respect the rights of Christians in his own fucking country but he will suck the donkey dick of the murderous muslims? This is a fucking nightmare, he needs to go back to his homeland now. Cant believe you fucking liberal shit bags voted for this guy.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/...ort/index.html


- They aren't building it on ground zero. They are building it 2 blocks away.
- The building already exists. It used to be a clothing factory a long time ago.
- Muslims have already been using this space for quite some time.
- Freedom of religion is considered by many people and nations to be a fundamental human right. The US Government has no reason whatsoever to deny their request.
- The muslim religion is practiced by over 1.4 Billion people.
- The war isn't against Muslims. It's against Al Queda.
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can you imagine the shitstorm if obama said no muslim cultural center can built 2 blocks from ground zero!

fuuuuuuuuck!
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Presidents dont say things off the cuff, this was a calculated attack on those who disagree with him on this matter and that is a MAJORITY of Americans.
Just because a majority agrees with anything doesn't make it right.


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The fact that he is Muslim makes no difference. He has to follow the Constitution of the United States of America and that is exactly what he is doing.
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Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a man of wealth and taste
I've been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

I stuck around St. Petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the Czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain

I rode a tank
Held a general's rank
When the Blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, what's puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah
(woo woo, woo woo)

I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made
(woo woo, woo woo)

I shouted out,
"Who killed the Kennedys?"
When after all
It was you and me
(who who, who who)

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Just because a majority agrees with anything doesn't make it right. The fact that he is Muslim makes no difference. He has to follow the Constitution of the United States of America and that is exactly what he is doing.
The Constitution doesnt tell him to open his fucking mouth on a subject he has no right even talking about in public. Its politically stupid, morally stupid and frankly intellectually stupid to say what he said last night.

You think its "RIGHT" that the mosque is built so close to sacred American ground? If we blew up the Black Stone of Mecca and then years later bought a space two blocks from it and tried to put up a Christian church would that be right too?

You are sensitive to the feelings of every other fucking people but your own. You people are pigs.
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You think its "RIGHT" that the mosque is built so close to sacred American ground?
i will ask again, since you dodged it the 1st time,

how far is far enough away from ground zero for you?
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Old 08-13-2010, 11:11 PM   #144
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You are sensitive to the feelings of every other fucking people but your own. You people are pigs.
Wait I take that back I know why you said what you said, fucking Canadian piece of shit. STFU you non-consequential ass, you arent even an American your opinion means jack shit on this subject.
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The Constitution doesnt tell him to open his fucking mouth on a subject he has no right even talking about in public. Its politically stupid, morally stupid and frankly intellectually stupid to say what he said last night.

You think its "RIGHT" that the mosque is built so close to sacred American ground? If we blew up the Black Stone of Mecca and then years later bought a space two blocks from it and tried to put up a Christian church would that be right too?

You are sensitive to the feelings of every other fucking people but your own. You people are pigs.
He has no right to speak about in Public? What do you think the Presidents job is?

It's politically stupid that he 'had' to say anything, because Christians are afraid. Again, the Muslim Religion did not attack us, it means "nothing" to 9/11 other than Christian freaks. Intellectually, he spoke about the constitution, calling what he said stupid is basically spitting on the constitution.

Being that you won't answer dyna mo, I'll ask... How far away is far enough away?
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i will ask again, since you dodged it the 1st time, how far is far enough away from ground zero for you?
Heres the thing, personally I think its insensitive anywhere in lower manhattan for them to build any fucking mosque but they have the legal right to do so.... now here is where it gets tricky for someone of a simple mind like yourself to follow.... ok you ready for it?

OBAMA DID NOT EVEN NEED TO SAY JACK SHIT ABOUT THIS SUBJECT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER... HE IS NOT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER.... THE FACT THAT HE DID SPEAKS VOLUMES LIKE MY CAPS LOCK ABOUT HOW HE FEELS ABOUT CHRISTIANS AND AMERICANS.

Fuck off thanks.
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Heres the thing, personally I think its insensitive anywhere in lower manhattan for them to build any fucking mosque but they have the legal right to do so.... now here is where it gets tricky for someone of a simple mind like yourself to follow.... ok you ready for it?

OBAMA DID NOT EVEN NEED TO SAY JACK SHIT ABOUT THIS SUBJECT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER... HE IS NOT INVOLVED WHATSOEVER.... THE FACT THAT HE DID SPEAKS VOLUMES LIKE MY CAPS LOCK ABOUT HOW HE FEELS ABOUT CHRISTIANS AND AMERICANS.

Fuck off thanks.
again with the personal attacks, funny because you have no clue what my personal view on the matter is.
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He has no right to speak about in Public? What do you think the Presidents job is?
Even dumb Presidents know when to keep their mouths shut. He just signed a death warrant for the Democrats.

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Intellectually, he spoke about the constitution, calling what he said stupid is basically spitting on the constitution.
He uses the same cop out argument for everything, immigration, gay "rights", muslim asskissing. Oh dont blame me its in the constitution. Fact is his adminstration are the ones spitting on the constitution all the time saying it needs to be updated and its an old document that is no longer applicable to modern situations.

Fuck you seriously fuck you go love on your muslim whore wife prick.
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again with the personal attacks, funny because you have no clue what my personal view on the matter is.
HERP DERP if you had read my previous posts you would have know the answer to the questions you keep asking. I apologize I assumed you had some reading disability, dont worry Obama will help you with that too.
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HERP DERP if you had read my previous posts you would have know the answer to the questions you keep asking. I apologize I assumed you had some reading disability, dont worry Obama will help you with that too.
apology accepted.
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