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brassmonkey 12-23-2014 12:55 PM

some of it dropped which is usual. 500k bond

signupdamnit 12-23-2014 12:55 PM

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One of the charges says McElfresh, a sheriff's captain, arranged a meeting with a minor for the purpose of exposing her genitals or engaging in lewd and lascivious acts. The meeting allegedly occurred between Aug. 1 and Dec. 15 of this year.

He is also charged with a felony for supplying a firearm to a person prohibited from owning a firearm.

McElfresh, 57, appeared Thursday in Sutter County Superior Court in a striped jail uniform with "Yolo County Inmate" stenciled across the back. McElfresh, though booked into his own jail, was moved to Yolo County to avoid conflicts of interest.

Judge Brian Aronson kept McElfresh's bail at $5 million out of concern for public safety.

Court documents said the alleged victim's boyfriend confronted McElfresh in a recorded conversation.

According to a declaration in support of bail enhancement, McElfresh can be heard saying, "I know it was really bad." And he also said, "I have a problem."

Also, during the investigation, authorities were told McElfresh said if he were to get in legal trouble, he's "going to take out a lot of people," according to the declaration.

McElfresh did not enter a plea. Defense attorney Jesse Santana requested the arraignment be continued so he could file a motion to recuse the Sutter County District Attorney's Office from the case.

District Attorney Amanda Hopper said she spoke with the California Attorney General's Office, which did not see a conflict of interest.

McElfresh was arrested while working at the Sheriff's Department on Tuesday afternoon by Yuba City police. The Sheriff's Department learned of allegations about McElfresh last week.
Sutter County Jail commander accused of molestation, faces five felonies - Appeal-Democrat: News

Wow so the deputy does seem guilty of something after all.

seeric 12-23-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 20335950)

It's illegal in the State of California (and most other states for that matter), to record someone without their prior consent. That evidence would not be admissible in court.

:2 cents:

Mutt 12-23-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20335944)
Exactly. Religion didn't make him sick and crazy, he simply realized at some point that he can better manipulate and hide amongst those who are looking for the good in others and more dismissive pr forgiving of the bad

Actually in Donny's case religion probably has played a part in making him the fuck up he is today. His father is a minister, I forget what Christian denomination but I think evangelical of some sort - there's a lot of very weird shit to deal with if you're an intelligent kid and Donny is fairly intelligent.

TheSquealer 12-23-2014 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20336029)
Actually in Donny's case religion probably has played a part in making him the fuck up he is today. His father is a minister, I forget what Christian denomination but I think evangelical of some sort - there's a lot of very weird shit to deal with if you're an intelligent kid and Donny is fairly intelligent.

One could also just as easily make the argument that religion probably helped him in that being in the environment he was/is in, caused him to better manage his mental disorder(s).

If i had to bet, I would guess that Donny's father shares the same mental issues that Donny has. Not learned, not the product of environment, but heritable personality traits that all point towards psychopathy (namely megalomania), sociopathy, anti social personality disorder and narcissism. His father may have been 100% sincere in his practice of religion and in his beliefs. Or as i've said, hyper-religiosity can also simply be a symptom of several mental disorders. Donny clearly is not hyper religious or sincere in his religious beliefs. Regardless, they both likely reveled in their ability to get everyone to gather in front of them and listen intently, as they position themselves as Gods anointed representative on earth.

What better place to take refuge for a psychopath or sociopath than by surrounding themselves with a community where "forgiveness is next to Godliness" and where its accepted that we all "sin", we all need forgiveness and its everyone's responsibility to get that person back on track? It's the perfect place for a nutjob to hide in plain sight.

I would guess that Donny found "religion" right after Belinda dumped him and he was already failing in this biz and that what seems to at a minimum, be narcissistic personality disorder drove him to doing something where he could be in the spotlight, be an unchallenged authority and get him more personal attention than he could manage and put himself in a position to manipulate and victimize others.

VikingMan 12-23-2014 08:09 PM

On a lighter note........the baby Jesus forgives everyone.......including child molesters. Just ask him for forgiveness and *abracadabra* you are forgiven and you get to go to heaven while people who never hurt a child, did charity work, were good people etc go directly to hell because they never believed in the baby Jesus. Go figure.

Bladewire 12-23-2014 08:22 PM

"In 2010, he was investigated for having ?inappropriate relationships with six other underage girls in Redding (California) but the case was never prosecuted.?

"Pauling was arrested earlier this month after a 16-year-old girl and her mother walked into the Sutter County, California, Sheriff?s Office and reported that Pauling had been having sexual relations with the girl since she was 13."

"Pauling was arrested two weeks ago and was charged with statutory rape of a different victim. He was moved to Colusa County Jail after investigators learned of allegations involving a Sheriff's Department employee's relative."

:mad:

Due 12-23-2014 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by seeric (Post 20336027)
It's illegal in the State of California (and most other states for that matter), to record someone without their prior consent. That evidence would not be admissible in court.

:2 cents:

I think that's only if it's done through the phone as its wiretapping.

TheAmericanCannibal 12-24-2014 09:15 AM

Good to see Bad Dog leave this thread.
Sometimes a man needs to know when it's not their circus.


Merry XMAS everyone see ya in Vegas:pimp

Sly 12-24-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 20336504)
I think that's only if it's done through the phone as its wiretapping.

Looks very murky and in order for a recording to be admissible very particular parameters need to be met.

Taped Conversation - Can I use it in court?

Due 12-24-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20336801)
Looks very murky and in order for a recording to be admissible very particular parameters need to be met.

Taped Conversation - Can I use it in court?

Correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like this article is about taped recordings by phone.

TheSquealer 12-24-2014 10:39 AM

I don't know the particulars of the recorded conversation if it was used or will be used efc but most states allow one party to record a conversation between himself and another. All states are considered either one party consent or all party consent. Meaning either one or all need to be aware of the recording. Within that, each state has quite a few caveats as to the conditions to which it is and isn't allowed

ITraffic 12-24-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20336410)
"In 2010, he was investigated for having “inappropriate relationships with six other underage girls in Redding (California) but the case was never prosecuted.”

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...Ov6sMMWgty-MMC

P.L. Kindig 12-24-2014 12:00 PM

I've reported these posts. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. None of you even know Donny!

SuckOnThis 12-24-2014 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by P.L. Kindig (Post 20336975)
I've reported these posts. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. None of you even know Donny!

Sig spammer.

TheSquealer 12-24-2014 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by P.L. Kindig (Post 20336975)
I've reported these posts. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. None of you even know Donny!

We've received reports of your reporting which have now been reported.

xXXtesy10 12-24-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P.L. Kindig (Post 20336975)
I've reported these posts. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. None of you even know Donny!

go suck a rotten cock

SuckOnThis 12-24-2014 01:18 PM

Study: Christians are more likely to be fat than atheists

Sly 12-24-2014 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20337091)

I had no idea GFY had so many Christians.

Jel 12-24-2014 01:24 PM

why would christians be atheists? :upsidedow

Kimmykim 12-24-2014 06:17 PM

Wow, looks like I'm late to this little party...

Is this right?

Arrested, investigated in 2010 for possible issues with 6 underage girls?
Arrested in 2012 for possible issues with 2 more?
Arrested this month for likely issues with 2 more (that might or might not be different girls from any or all of the previous girls, I'm not clear on that part)
Admits to but hasn't been charged yet for sure with a statutory rape charge on the sheriffs 16 year old relative (niece, daughter, not really clear here either)

I have never liked that fat fuck since the day he showed up, and that's certainly no secret. And while I thought (still do, actually) the shit he pulled on his ex was so completely reprehensible that he should have been locked up for stalking after someone cut his tongue out, this takes the fucking cake.

Crazy, no surprise. Batshit crazy, no surprise. Dumbass crazy, no surprise. I despise the twat, on sight (though I do think the first time I actually saw him in person might have been at Kremen's, there's another genius and a half).

That video, the first ten seconds that I could watch before I was too nauseous to look at any more -- that's so far beyond the level of dangerous psycho crazy I thought that I'm just floored. I always thought he'd end up killing his ex, OJ style, and that would be the last we'd have to hear of him.

This is sickening. Mind numbingly, overwhelmingly nauseating.

One can only hope the rest of the inmates teach him the error of his ways.

Seth Manson 12-24-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by P.L. Kindig (Post 20336975)
I've reported these posts. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. None of you even know Donny!


A lot of us know Donny.

And you think that reporting these posts is going to get anything done? For fuck's sake lady you're posting on a porn webmaster forum called GO FUCK YOURSELF. It's just like the wild west here.

Hey would you like to see my nuts?

SBJ 12-25-2014 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by P.L. Kindig (Post 20336975)
I've reported these posts. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. None of you even know Donny!


:1orglaugh haha no way you are that POS's mother! But it's going to get more entertaining in this thread now

Now Merry Fucking Christmas and Go Fuck yourself!! :321GFY:321GFY:321GFY

Grapesoda 12-25-2014 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20337358)
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Hey would you like to see my nuts?

yes sir, I would like to see your nuts

edgeprod 12-25-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 20337602)
yes sir, I would like to see your nuts

Seconded.

TheSquealer 12-25-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20337358)

Hey would you like to see my nuts?

It will be a Christmas miracle!

L-Pink 12-25-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 20337358)
Hey would you like to see my nuts?

I'd like to hang a brass replica on my tree.

JFK 12-25-2014 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20337832)
It will be a Christmas miracle!

tis the season :Graucho

VikingMan 12-25-2014 09:49 PM

I am just here for Seth's nuts.

uno 12-25-2014 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20330302)
More crazy and zany Donny from an anonymous source...



Tell me the end doesn't make you go... "ummm"

I have that same cat tree in black.

uno 12-25-2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20332278)
'It's A Horrible Life' - (2104)

Plot synopsis - It's Christmas Eve and Donny Pauling, a pastor and motivational speaker, finds himself separated from the ones he loves, his teenage son, his devoted mother and a bevy of troubled underaged girls he counsels and rapes. Donny is despondent and alone, locked up in the Bedford Falls County Jail accused of terrible crimes he knows he did not commit but how will he ever convince a judge that statutory rape is an act of love? In a moment of weakness Donny loses all faith and decides to commit suicide by strangling himself in his cell with his underpants. Unbeknownst to Donny he is being watched from on high, an angel named Clarence, anxious to earn his angel wings First Class is quickly dispatched to Earth to intervene and save Donny from his own hands. Clarence, a very clever angel, enters Donny's cell impersonating a jail guard grabbing the underpants with which Donny was just about to kill himself with. Donny protests that he wants to die but Clarence has another idea.

Clarence takes Donny backwards through time presenting a series of vignettes from childhood to adulthood to show Donny what life would have been like had he never existed - Donny sees his 5 year old self tricking his younger brother into giving him his most cherished toy, then as an older child telling grandiose lies about his accomplishments, serving on Student Council as a high schooler where he misappropriated funds raised in a charity carwash, falsely accusing other students at his community college of cheating on their exams, then as a young pornographer preying on young innocent girls to model and masturbate naked for him through a devious bait and switch technique he continuously perfected, misrepresenting himself to clients, ripping off his fellow photographers, Donny developing a relationship with a young model he claimed was the love of his life showing her how much he loves her by sharing her with another man in the porn industry so he could watch her have sex with this other man, then when she falls in love with the other man Donny begins a seige of harassment and stalking that lasts years, Clarence shows Donny recreating himself as a fallen sinner dedicating himself to God's word but not really as Donny turns his new faith into a money making enterprise while still continuing to deceive and prey on people, finally Clarence shows Donny and his creepy friend Lewis the sheriff raping Lewis' 16 year old ******** and Donny continuing to bribe and coerce underaged girls into having sex with him.

Clarence realizes he's made a terrible mistake, the world had not been better off for Donny's existence. Clarence is panicked, he intended to save a man's life by showing him the good in him and he wanted those angel wings First Class so badly after waiting centuries. What to do? Clarence dashes out of the cell and returns with an ice pick stabbing Donny repeatedly screaming 'IT WAS A WONDERFUL LIFE WASN'T IT DONNY PAULING!?!?! IT WAS A WONDERFUL LIFE WASN'T IT DONNY PAULING!?!?! IT WAS A WONDERFUL LIFE WASN'T IT DONNY PAULING!?!?!'

You should do more writing man.:1orglaugh

uno 12-25-2014 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 20333284)
At the Department Store Thanksgiving Day parade, the former porn producer playing Santa is discovered to be drunk by the Sheriff. Sheriff McElf, the no nonsense "special events" director, persuades him to "repent" and wear makeup. The reformed drunk proves to be a sensation and is quickly recruited to be the store Santa at the main Macy's outlet. While he is successful, the delightful Sheriff McElf learns that he calls himself Saint Donny and he claims to be the actual Santa Claus! Despite reassurances by Donny's friends on GFY that he is harmless, McElf still has misgivings, especially when he has cynically trained himself, and especially his daughter, Susan, to reject all notions of belief and fantasy. And yet, people, especially Susan, begin to notice there is something special about Donny and his determination to preach to her specifically in the evenings at special "services" they have all alone. When a raucous conflict with a cruelly incompetent judge erupts, Donny finds himself held in prison where, in despair, he deliberately fails a mental examination to ensure his commitment. All seems lost until McElf's friend, Rev. Freddy Gaily, reassure Donny of his worth and agrees to represent him in the fight to secure his release. To achieve that, Freddy arranges a formal hearing in which he argues that Donny is sane because he is in fact Santa Claus and plus everyone else is a lunatic and a criminal, especially the young girls. What ensues is a bizarre hearing in which people's beliefs are reexamined and put to the test, but even so, it's going to take a debacle for Donny to win!

It's a shame kubrick is dead.

Mutt 12-26-2014 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 20338229)
You should do more writing man.:1orglaugh

wow, long time man - how you doing?

Far-L 12-26-2014 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 20338234)
It's a shame kubrick is dead.

I think Lynch would be the one to do this one justice. There is a "Blue Velvet" sort of greasy slow horror parade of horrendous creeps doing abominable things that he does well, shining a light on the darkness, watching the cockroaches scurry through a story line that makes one want to shower afterwards.

Paully 12-26-2014 04:00 AM

The only reason I have to wish a heaven or hell would be to know a piece of shit like Donny would cook for ever.

uno 12-27-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20338249)
wow, long time man - how you doing?

Pretty good. Mostly doing ebay stuff for the time being, but getting my server and whatnot back in order.

ITraffic 12-27-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20338292)
I think Lynch would be the one to do this one justice. There is a "Blue Velvet" sort of greasy slow horror parade of horrendous creeps doing abominable things that he does well, shining a light on the darkness, watching the cockroaches scurry through a story line that makes one want to shower afterwards.

his story isn't worthy of lynch. in the end his life will just be some saturday afternoon cheesy half hour true crime tv show on some unknown channel.

Rochard 12-27-2014 08:35 PM

Donny sure owns some interesting web pages: Beffners.com Whois Lookup - Who.is - Who.is

420 12-27-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20339849)
Donny sure owns some interesting web pages: Beffners.com Whois Lookup - Who.is - Who.is

She has her clothes on....

Mutt 12-27-2014 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20339849)
Donny sure owns some interesting web pages: Beffners.com Whois Lookup - Who.is - Who.is

He's all over her Facebook - she lists her current job as a data entry clerk at Dealer Web Concepts which is Donny's web business.


Verrrrrrrrrrry normal for 41 year old men to be mentoring sexy 15 year old girls. Donny has vast experience exploiting 18 year olds, imagine how easy it is with a 15 or 16 year old.

I was going to post pics of her but I thought maybe Eric wouldn't appreciate it.

Sly 12-27-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 20339859)
He's all over her Facebook - she lists her current job as a data entry clerk at Dealer Web Concepts which is Donny's web business.


Verrrrrrrrrrry normal for 41 year old men to be mentoring sexy 15 year old girls. Donny has vast experience exploiting 18 year olds, imagine how easy it is with a 15 or 16 year old.

I was going to post pics of her but I thought maybe Eric wouldn't appreciate it.

Gee, ya think?

I removed her Facebook link from your post as well.

Penny24Seven 12-28-2014 12:34 AM

just here for the nuts

Rochard 12-28-2014 11:52 AM

Donny's mother posted a picture Donny had drawn of his cell....

http://content.screencast.com/users/...12-28_1047.png

I'm not making this up. Anyone can go to Facebook and do a search for Donny Pauling. Comes right up.

Bladewire 12-28-2014 11:56 AM

His poor mother

ITraffic 12-28-2014 11:57 AM

As for the girls.....anyone who thinks I would have any bitterness towards them obviously doesn't know me very well. Are you kidding me? I've considered them my daughters for all the years they've been with me. I still do. I always will. As for the one who accused me: her words against me broke my heart. I never thought such a thing would ever happen. I had my mom block them both from my friends list awhile back, and I'm not allowed to speak to them, but if I could I'd make sure both of them know that I'll never stop caring or loving them. Never, ever. My four years with them were filled with memories that enriched my life. Helping them through tough times felt like redemption to me. I will always believe in both of them. They are amazing, and I pray for them every single day, multiple times per day, that God will watch over them and guide them, keeping them safe and reminding them that they are the daughters of the king of the universe, which makes them princesses, not in some cliché way, but in a very literal way. While this situation has removed me from their lives, there is NOTHING that can remove them from my heart. NOTHING.

Grapesoda 12-28-2014 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20340174)
His poor mother

the whole deal is a real crappy experience for everyone involved :(

ITraffic 12-28-2014 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20340169)
Donny's mother posted a picture Donny had drawn of his cell....

http://content.screencast.com/users/...12-28_1047.png

Donny drew this picture of his new temporary home. Ha Ha! It's his first attempt at drawing! What do you think? It made me proud!

TheSquealer 12-28-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FACEBOOK/DONNY
From Donny; Some people wonder if I'm getting bitter towards God, or towards the two girls who lived with me for the last four years, one of which made accusations against me which landed me in jail. The answer to the question about God is this: "Of course not!" He is present in a very tangible way in here. I start every morning in prayer to Him. We spend a lot of time together, and I have spent a lot of numerous hours helping other inmates get to know him better. "As for the girls.....anyone who thinks I would have any bitterness towards them obviously doesn't know me very well. Are you kidding me? I've considered them my daughters for all the years they've been with me. I still do. I always will. As for the one who accused me: her words against me broke my heart. I never thought such a thing would ever happen. I had my mom block them both from my friends list awhile back, and I'm not allowed to speak to them, but if I could I'd make sure both of them know that I'll never stop caring or loving them. Never, ever. My four years with them were filled with memories that enriched my life. Helping them through tough times felt like redemption to me. I will always believe in both of them. They are amazing, and I pray for them every single day, multiple times per day, that God will watch over them and guide them, keeping them safe and reminding them that they are the daughters of the king of the universe, which makes them princesses, not in some cliché way, but in a very literal way. While this situation has removed me from their lives, there is NOTHING that can remove them from my heart. NOTHING. I love both of them very much and pray their lives are fulfilling and wonderful, and that they get to know the God who loves them perfectly on a deeper level every day, for the rest of their lives. He will walk beside them, always. And when times are toughest, he is there to hug them and pick them up. He's always ready to put them back on their feet any time they fall down, and there is NOTHING they could ever do that would separate them from his love, he is ALWAYS the answer to that ache inside that yearns to be filled by someone who cares and listens to them. Always. If someday I am able to speak with them again, I'll love them just as much as I do now and will never let any circumstance influence the way I see them. To me, they'll always be my "Beffners" and "Saurus".
I hope that clears up any questions about how I feel.

Clearly Donny is sicker than his mother and he has a bit more time to think, write and edit. Anyone that "knows him" or watched him go way out of his way to bring his personal life to a public forum as his girlfriend was leaving him and make a lot of private facts public and then viciously attack her and the other party, destroy the parties family and so on and so on...all in an attempt to garner some pity for himself.

When sick people say what we want to hear and when they fake all the appropriate emotions, at the appropriate times, we start thinking "maybe i was wrong".

Go back, read all of his meltdown threads, his open declaration that he's going to "find religion" to scam "the sheep" and become a public speaker and everything else he's said, look at his other arrests and charges (similar to the current) and you'll be quickly reminded of exactly what he is. A very skilled manipulator and serial liar with absolutely no capacity for guilt, shame, remorse or regret.

Just a friendly reminder to all that mentally ill person is sitting in jail right now for fucking underage girls. That doesn't mean he is guilty but one cannot help but look at all the facts surrounding him, his personality, his lies, his shameless, manipulative behavior and the fact that he was living with these girls AFTER already being accused of similar charges (by girls of a similar age), his gross, 1/2 naked familiarity with them in videos they created, along with his video confession of going to a guys house to screw his underage daughter so the dad could watch, should be more than enough to suggest to any reasonable person that there is likely a great deal of truth to the charges.

Grapesoda 12-28-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20340216)
Clearly Donny is sicker than his mother and he has a bit more time to think, write and edit. Anyone that "knows him" or watched him go way out of his way to bring his personal life to a public forum as his girlfriend was leaving him and make a lot of private facts public and then viciously attack her and the other party, destroy the parties family and so on and so on...all in an attempt to garner some pity for himself.

When sick people say what we want to hear and when they fake all the appropriate emotions, at the appropriate times, we start thinking "maybe i was wrong".

Go back, read all of his meltdown threads, his open declaration that he's going to "find religion" to scam "the sheep" and become a public speaker and everything else he's said, look at his other arrests and charges (similar to the current) and you'll be quickly reminded of exactly what he is. A very skilled manipulator and serial liar with absolutely no capacity for guilt, shame, remorse or regret.

Just a friendly reminder to all that mentally ill person is sitting in jail right now for fucking underage girls. That doesn't mean he is guilty but one cannot help but look at all the facts surrounding him, his personality, his lies, his shameless, manipulative behavior and the fact that he was living with these girls AFTER already being accused of similar charges (by girls of a similar age), his gross, 1/2 naked familiarity with them in videos they created, along with his video confession of going to a guys house to screw his underage daughter so the dad could watch, should be more than enough to suggest to any reasonable person that there is likely a great deal of truth to the charges.

http://oralfixationshow.com/wp-conte...rain-wreck.jpg

L-Pink 12-28-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit (Post 20340174)
His poor mother

Yea, poor trusting woman. Damn shame for her.


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