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Old 10-23-2011, 05:22 PM   #101
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I saw that correction
It was a serious 'WTF auto correct' moment.
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Old 10-23-2011, 06:34 PM   #102
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Ask yourself why you spend so much time and energy trying to care for someone that obviously doesn't care for you, and figure out a way to apply that energy to your own success. If you can focus on one thing, you have to be able to find a way to channel that focus into something that's actually productive. Some pills may help, but I think that you already have it in yourself to help control the issue.

You should also look at your diet. I'm betting that you eat like absolute shit.

Yeah I have not taken the time to eat right, lately.. That sure does not help.. I think that I fix everyone else as an escape from fixing me. Knowing that it is IN THERE SOMEWHERE... the spark or whatever it was I use to have... drives me CRAZY
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Thank you for all that info. Any suggestion on where can you get baseline lab work done without a doctor's order?
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Thank you for all that info. Any suggestion on where can you get baseline lab work done without a doctor's order?
Yeah here are a couple of places:

www.saveonlabs.com
www.privatemdlabs.com

You'd order your labwork at one of these places and you get emailed a requisition form. Then you just print it out and walk into any labcorp to get your blood drawn. Your results will be emailed / posted online in a few days.

Labcorp is likely the same lab your doctor uses when they give you a lab order. I think it's the largest lab in the US with multiple offices in every city.

The only difference is the price. The same labs ordered by your doctor would cost significantly more than if you ordered them by yourself.
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Yeah here are a couple of places:

www.saveonlabs.com
www.privatemdlabs.com

You'd order your labwork at one of these places and you get emailed a requisition form. Then you just print it out and walk into any labcorp to get your blood drawn. Your results will be emailed / posted online in a few days.

Labcorp is likely the same lab your doctor uses when they give you a lab order. I think it's the largest lab in the US with multiple offices in every city.

The only difference is the price. The same labs ordered by your doctor would cost significantly more than if you ordered them by yourself.
I so totally appreciate this! In one of those weird twist of the universe things, I had a scheduled doctor's appt after I first posted in this thread. He ordered a TSH lab, and it came back outside the range. So they are going to do other other tests on it...not sure if it is the T3 or T4 that you spoke of.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:45 AM   #106
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I don't know what the hell to do, now. A day or two after I found her in the basement laying there sick and hardly moving, showing mild signs of mania, she wanted to come and see me.

She did. She's back. She is terribly sorry and went and bought me a new wardrobe of clothes on a Kohls card they sent to her. She's acting like HERSELF. She had been to the hospital again, the ER doc did labs and they think she may be on her way to being hypo rather than hyper.

I don't know WHAT the hell to think or do now... we're both looking for jobs. Still broke. She's been staying at my place, we both had a little money and put it together to buy food and gasoline. My car is busted now so she's been driving me places.

She still wants to keep her new room, but has only managed to pay 100 on it

Hell

I am enjoying having her around as herself but scared to death that she'll thyroid out, again. I guess she was trying to save money going without one of her anti pills. That is why all of this happened, why she ended up in the ER. And apparently she caught strep throat, there. That is why she was laying in the basement that whole time - leveling out being back on meds and having strep..

I don't know maybe being loyal will pay off. She's a hell of a woman if she can get well. She's exceedingly intelligent, beautiful, I love her body and she adores giving blowjobs. She even has business experience(huge turn-on for me) Maybe she'll cause some more disasters. I do know that the last few weeks I had become a real dick ball asshole, she had caused so many issues and I had done so much for her, you know, but I caused a lot of her misbehavior when I was at MY breaking point.

I think now that I am not so much of an asshole and giving her a CHANCE to behave it might go a-lot better. Who knows, I don't know who's fault what was.

A job is what I need. And I need to be OUT of the middle of all of my families problems. Maybe I dig her because I crave excitement. I have kept company with dangerous ass bitches, before.. "I love a challenge" - "Houston, we have a problem" - "Frank, I may be in over my head, on THIS one"- Stay tuned

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dude, it's just a coincidence that she went bat shit crazy now, it has nothing to do with her thyroid issues... and actually 99% of women are like that...
Totally right. Never heard of links with thyroid and mental health.
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Totally right. Never heard of links with thyroid and mental health.

From everything I have read, the thyroid being whacked out causes all kinds of behavioral issues.. And I have done a-lot of reading, believe me.

I figure if she was down for me after I got drunk that time and caused a hollywood horror movie of an evening, I can deal with this..

I've only been drunk twice this whole year, though. And she's thyroided out quite a few times. Which is just as damned scary.... maybe
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You should see what it can do to people. She even would get all out of breath bending down to pick something up, had a huge intolerance for heat, couldn't climb stairs, etc... Now all of that is gone , for now , I guess
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Look what a one minute google search shows:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...89&topic=13551

"YES severe hypothyroidism/Hashimoto's can have a profound effect on you mentally/emotionally. I was originally diagnosed as severely depressed/bipolar/schizoid personality until my hashi's was diagnosed. Your brain/body uses up certain chemicals for stress and other things and has a harder time restoring those chemicals (since your body isn't running at full throttle) when you have hypothyroidism so you experience mental/physical problems (even hallucinations) ."

"Hi Stepanie, I was diagnosed with hypo last year. Before i was diagnosed, i was a happy, outgoing, energetic person, who loved life. Since then i have suffered from debilitating depression. I've tried to kill myself twice, which ended up with me being put in a mental hospital against my will for 3 days, my husband left me, i hardly ever leave my house, i think about suicide 24/7, and i really don't know the person i've become. I was never like this until i "


I think there IS hope for her if I can get her fixed. ..
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I found her in the basement laying there sick and hardly moving

Maybe she'll cause some more disasters

I have kept company with dangerous ass bitches, before

buy yourself some good pussy and and put this miserable chapter of your life behind you. i'm serious man get your passport and plane ticket today and you will question your own sanity once you return... if you so choose to. i've been in your shoes more times than i care to recollect. girls who -repeatedly- have fuckedup life experiences despite your help and good intentions do so for a reason. save yourself
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buy yourself some good pussy and and put this miserable chapter of your life behind you. i'm serious man get your passport and plane ticket today and you will question your own sanity once you return... if you so choose to. i've been in your shoes more times than i care to recollect. girls who -repeatedly- have fuckedup life experiences despite your help and good intentions do so for a reason. save yourself
That is the best advice in the world. I am a new man when I get away from my family, and now I have THIS to deal with. Not sure WHY I hang around. I think I may be self punishing or some crazy horrible thing, myself. My memory is GONE I don't know if it was all the alcohol but I never burned weed. Not sure. But every time I leave and go to a somewhere like a Miami or Philadelphia or California or certain parts of South Texas, I am a NEW MAN. My attitude does a 180 and I seem to be capable of not being a complete fuckup, then.

I definitely hear you about the psycho bitches. Thing is, I am usually one who simply will not get involved with someone who has a fucked up life. These people you know the type "noting but problems, and they're all stupid ones" - I stay away from them. But then this one, I got a big fierce sense of loyalty toward this woman. I don't get close to many people, and when I do, fuck me man I really do, you know?

If she can get free of the religion programming, and get her body well, she is one hell of a woman. Sigh. I was programmed through christianity for many many years of my life. I ignored all kinds of proven facts just like she may end up continuing to do. Add the religion to the health issues and it equals an unwinnable puzzle for me, right? But I am a stubborn broken person.. or some kind of a thing

I have beat myself down and been beat down by this midwestern hell of a life.. you know in the song they're living a hell of a life, right, in the midwest you live a HELL of a life - being here so long has me to a point where I can't seem to find ANY motivation or ANY action left in myself - I am just a blob

The midwest. Your soul, it'll kill it.. your spirit, it'll stomp on it. All of the negative hateful assholes living everywhere coming out of the woodwork will sicken you to death. The slow stupid way they do everything will enrage you until you "get use to it" and then into oblivion

I never have paid for snatch and never will- don't see how anyone enjoys that- but I don't have a problem finding women for some god unknown reason. LoL.


Your advice is sage wise advice

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I never have paid for snatch and never will- don't see how anyone enjoys that
can't sell it til you buy it..



and with your problematic girl you are overpaying for sex now in money, time, lost productivity, and sanity and dont even realize it
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You are currently paying far more than the highest priced hooker, and you are miserable every moment to boot. Quality of life is worth more than some bills in a wallet.
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Look what a one minute google search shows:
You found some anecdotal evidence. This is from Harvard:

"The interest for mental health is that thyroid deficiency may be associated with cognitive and emotional disturbances, and thyroid hormones may be useful in the treatment of depression...findings have been inconsistent, especially in studies with larger numbers of participants. In one such survey, Canadian researchers found that the only psychiatric disorder associated with thyroid disease was social anxiety disorder (social phobia). In a study of more than 300 people over age 60 who came to internal medicine and psychiatry clinics, some of them for depression and others for symptoms suggesting abnormal thyroid activity, researchers found a high rate of depression among those with subclinical hypothyroidism but not those with clinical hypothyroidism.

So the influence of thyroid deficiency on mental health remains uncertain. Findings may conflict because studies have selected patients and evaluated depressive symptoms and thyroid function by different standards."

http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/up...l-health.shtml

I can't find any actual evidence. Can you?
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Cliff notes?
Somone's bird is a bit mental and blaming that on thyroid issues.
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And I have a tip for everyone:

Anything you do or have done for a woman does not count if she doesn't ask or remember asking you to do it, at all, no matter what it cost you or in what way, so only do something for a woman if you can do it expecting nothing more than to feel good about what you did for her. And, make sure that she is worth doing it for, first. Because once something doesn't count, it ain't easy to feel good about it. You could try simply not doing whatever it is, but she might hate you for not doing what ever it might have been, so you probably should do it, or you could always just let someone convince you that you need a new one OR try having one less problem.
Women want you to do everything for them and have little gratitude, it's true. They seem to think you doing for them is simply how things should be and gratitude doesn't enter into it. Oh, they'll humor you and thank you but bottom line when they're upset you find out the truth - nothing you do is good enough for them and they've forgotten 90% of the stuff you do for them daily, weekly, whatever.

My best advice is never ever get married, the relationship goes south almost immediately once they see that ring on your finger.
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i think he's just waiting for the repo men, process servers, bounty hunters, and her ex/current babydaddys to show up. the motto on my university seal was 'experientia docet' meaning experience teaches. watch n learn
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We have three children, a house, etc...

It's not really that easy.
You're crazy. And if not you will be soon.

My toddler is the best birth control ever. EVER. seriously. I am more scared to get pregnant now than the first times I had sex.

... because now, I know.
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You found some anecdotal evidence. This is from Harvard:

"The interest for mental health is that thyroid deficiency may be associated with cognitive and emotional disturbances, and thyroid hormones may be useful in the treatment of depression...findings have been inconsistent, especially in studies with larger numbers of participants. In one such survey, Canadian researchers found that the only psychiatric disorder associated with thyroid disease was social anxiety disorder (social phobia). In a study of more than 300 people over age 60 who came to internal medicine and psychiatry clinics, some of them for depression and others for symptoms suggesting abnormal thyroid activity, researchers found a high rate of depression among those with subclinical hypothyroidism but not those with clinical hypothyroidism.

So the influence of thyroid deficiency on mental health remains uncertain. Findings may conflict because studies have selected patients and evaluated depressive symptoms and thyroid function by different standards."

http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/up...l-health.shtml

I can't find any actual evidence. Can you?


I've seen what must be 100s of stories to support the claim that thyroid issues can cause mental disturbances. I understand that it's a Harvard study you're citing, here, but they also did one which found that hardened thugs on the street will respond to love and kindness. Some "really nice" normal people probably got hurt pretty badly trying to "show them some love" if you know what I mean ..
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i think he's just waiting for the repo men, process servers, bounty hunters, and her ex/current babydaddys to show up. the motto on my university seal was 'experientia docet' meaning experience teaches. watch n learn

Sigh. Probably. I am a stubborn idiot sometimes. I think I got midwesternized
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Women want you to do everything for them and have little gratitude, it's true. They seem to think you doing for them is simply how things should be and gratitude doesn't enter into it. Oh, they'll humor you and thank you but bottom line when they're upset you find out the truth - nothing you do is good enough for them and they've forgotten 90% of the stuff you do for them daily, weekly, whatever.

My best advice is never ever get married, the relationship goes south almost immediately once they see that ring on your finger.

I'm usually immune to that shit, too.. 99 of 100 women I keep company with, "I don't give a fuck about a bitch"... but three in my life have gotten "in" and when they get "in", they can do a lot of damage. Like a Mac (computer) I think they're like that

Well the first time a woman got in, after the dust settled, one didn't get in for five years after that. Then after that one it was almost two years. If this one doesn't work out I am going for TEN
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She's treating me pretty good since she's been back.. there's still a big lack of respect with her and she finally got ahold of a few hundred early this month, but she spent it on a jewelry hustling "cult" ... if you even try to talk to her about it, she gets real real upset

She told me "get a job if you need anything" when I wanted to use $30 of it for an oil change after driving her everywhere all summer


We'll see how things go

Since she has been back this time they sent her a khols card and she bought me all kinds of new clothes. They're pretty good clothes. And she is going to get me some food, today.. And now that my car is down, she is driving me everywhere.

So I know she must care about me, right?

We'll see how things go

I appreciate the advice on here from the ones of you who aren't morons
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You're a dysfunctional person, she's a dysfunctional person... you are both in a dysfunctional relationship.

Until you understand, change and improve yourself, you'll always be in dysfunctional relationships.

Until that time, one lunatic is just as good as another. No reason to change. You'll seek them out no matter what. Breaking up for you is nothing more than changing the physical traits of the exact same personality that will continue to make you unhappy.

It's not a stretch to assume your mother is a total lunatic. Maybe an alcoholic/pill popper. She's most likely a very abusive personality, for whatever reason.
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You're a dysfunctional person, she's a dysfunctional person... you are both in a dysfunctional relationship.

Until you understand, change and improve yourself, you'll always be in dysfunctional relationships.

Until that time, one lunatic is just as good as another. No reason to change. You'll seek them out no matter what. Breaking up for you is nothing more than changing the physical traits of the exact same personality that will continue to make you unhappy.

It's not a stretch to assume your mother is a total lunatic. Maybe an alcoholic/pill popper. She's most likely a very abusive personality, for whatever reason.

She wasn't dysfunctional when I met her and I moved to this town to get the HELL away from my family and start over a little.. In that town I was in, I was the problem solver for them all. It drove me crazy dealing with stupid yet intense problems they all cause. My mother is crazy but has never done any drugs or alcohol- she is just off because of a huge stroke back in 1996 ... she has a lack of compassion a lot of the time, and acts like a child often .. My father was extremely tough on me when I was a child and it wasn't easy .. for example when I was fifteen I was making his truck payment ..

But I definitely wasn't seeking a dysfunctional person and don't believe I was dysfunctional when I moved here. My "new start" just ended up being consumed by her getting sick, I have not had a chance. I went right back into the problem solver role. Spent my money every dime on her, driving her everywhere, etc.

I had no time or money left for ANYTHING I wanted. I could not even buy a stupid $20 cd player for my god damned car.

Maybe I seek out the role of problem solver in order to avoid dealing with my own issues. I have though that for awhile now. I also seem to be punishing myself for something. I'm not sure.

And then this woman when she is more loyal to this religious nut friend of hers, and joins her jewelry sales cult, and goes completely opposite of what I tell her, it makes me so mad. How dare she go and rent a room I told her not to, or waste the money on the jewelry cult behind my back? I was not in town when she got that money, and she purposely evaded me when I asked if the money came in so she could go and give it to the cult

All I ever asked of ANYONE was the same fucking LOYALTY I show time and again

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you're a retard. She sounds like a fucking bitch, and like thesqealer said if you are dysfunctional you will be a magnet for problematic and useless whores. Get the fuck away from her, dump her, think about yourself! Fuck everyone else and get your head right.
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It's a very difficult situation. I know from personal experience. Good luck.
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dude, it's just a coincidence that she went bat shit crazy now, it has nothing to do with her thyroid issues...
Not at all.
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She's treating me pretty good since she's been back.. Since she has been back this time they sent her a khols card and she bought me all kinds of new clothes. They're pretty good clothes. And she is going to get me some food, today.. And now that my car is down, she is driving me everywhere.
So basically what you're saying is that you couldn't wait for the sick poor bitch to respond to you so you could get some new clothes and some food?

You're a fucking parasite. I hope one day one of these fat girl's fathers puts a bullet in you.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:37 AM   #136
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You need to wake up and smell the coffee that you are a fucking loser without a dime to his name that still hasn't done a goddamn thing to get a job.

When you figure that out, maybe you can decide to look down on somebody else.
Until then, you've actually got more than you deserve.

Seriously. Stop being a piece of shit today and do something towards employment.
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chuuch

might as well get a camera and film a crazy thyroid bitch niche. learn to profit from your hard times and fuckedup choices so you upgrade to some better toto
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So basically what you're saying is that you couldn't wait for the sick poor bitch to respond to you so you could get some new clothes and some food?

You're a fucking parasite. I hope one day one of these fat girl's fathers puts a bullet in you.

Stay out of my thread you human fucking waste. Aren't you the one who told me to put her down when she got sick? You are a liar, an ignorant person and garbage. I was worried about her when I could not find her. I knew she was completely hopelessly without money and had no idea she'd be able to buy me some clothing, you moron. It is simply nice to see some of what I did for her coming back, for once.
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Stay out of my thread you human fucking waste. Aren't you the one who told me to put her down when she got sick? You are a liar, an ignorant person and garbage. I was worried about her when I could not find her. I knew she was completely hopelessly without money and had no idea she'd be able to buy me some clothing, you moron. It is simply nice to see some of what I did for her coming back, for once.
I'll do whatever the fuck I want and your broke ass can't do a god damned thing about it.

Poor girl, sick and having mental problems and your stupid ass can't wait to go clothes shopping on her new credit card. What a fucking loser you are.
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you're a retard. She sounds like a fucking bitch, and like thesqealer said if you are dysfunctional you will be a magnet for problematic and useless whores. Get the fuck away from her, dump her, think about yourself! Fuck everyone else and get your head right.
But I am usually not a magnet for dysfunctional anything. Most of my lady friends have big careers or small to medium businesses... They're all well adjusted foxy women. Thinking about myself is what I am learning to do. In business, I have no heart, I'll starve your whole family to make a deal work for me and feed mine. I am close to about FOUR people on earth. I am not like one of these clowns who gets close to women and gets hurt all of the time.. but when I do get close, I always seem to get hurt, and I think maybe I am attracted to problematic people BECAUSE it affords me the opportunity to solve their problems and hide from my own

That would explain why I don't "fall for" the most successful and desirable of my lady friends. Thing is, this one IS desirable when she's herself and has been successful in the past. .. So at least I was trying to trend upward? I guess?
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I'll do whatever the fuck I want and your broke ass can't do a god damned thing about it.

Poor girl, sick and having mental problems and your stupid ass can't wait to go clothes shopping on her new credit card. What a fucking loser you are.
That is because she's going to be taking bankruptcy, anyway, she has let every other bill go and it does not fucking matter at this point. She got things for herself, too.

One thing I can tell you is not to become an enemy of mine when I am poor, because they ALWAYS regret it once I have money, again. I don't fuck around with clowns like you. You told me to put my woman down when she got sick. I don't forget some shit like that, board idiot or not
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And it wasn't a "credit card" you illiterate ignorant fuckball. It was a Kohls card.
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One thing I can tell you is not to become an enemy of mine when I am poor, because they ALWAYS regret it once I have money, again. I don't fuck around with clowns like you.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha [continues]
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha [continues]
Aren't you almost as stupid as this other idiot? Shut up your keys
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That is because she's going to be taking bankruptcy, anyway, she has let every other bill go and it does not fucking matter at this point. She got things for herself, too.

One thing I can tell you is not to become an enemy of mine when I am poor, because they ALWAYS regret it once I have money, again. I don't fuck around with clowns like you. You told me to put my woman down when she got sick. I don't forget some shit like that, board idiot or not
There's nothing you can do to me, ever. So save your threats for somebody who might actually be afraid of stupid poor people because I for one will never be.
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She told me "get a job if you need anything"
Since she has been back this time they sent her a khols card and she bought me all kinds of new clothes. They're pretty good clothes. And she is going to get me some food, today.. And now that my car is down, she is driving me everywhere.

So I know she must care about me, right?
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Bump for mrmaxwell the "life changer" living off the avails of his ailing girlfriend who is actually too good for him. [But still not very good]
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You board whores can say I lived off of her all you want. I paid her way, took care of her in every way, and that's that. Go and pollute another thread, morons
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LOL @ threatening WarChild, he's a world class fighter you broke loon.
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