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Old 11-09-2011, 04:26 PM   #51
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I'm not sure how you relate those two issues... the Rabbi scumbag in your story ACTUALLY WENT TO JAIL, so how would being a rabbi help the coach get away with it?

In the meantime, 100s of Catholic priests have molested kids, and it has been actively covered up by the entire worldwide authority structure of the church.... and where are all the jail sentences? Obviously the catholic school idea would work much better for the coach, wouldn't you agree?



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No I don't agree. Although Catholics outnumber Jews 100 to 1 (or more), your people managed to keep up with child abuse scandals.
Here's one on prime time TV
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xt6MmzRRYk0

he must be the only one there. Oh wait here's more
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=99913807

Oh look, who would have thought of cover up? Must be those damned Catholics.
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fai...n-abc-123.html

Mike, do you ever think before you post ?
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By the same token, authorities in the catholic church are NOT getting in trouble for knowing about, and deliberately covering up, child molesters in their ranks. Therefore, if he was a cardinal, and the assistant coach was a priest, he would not get in trouble. That was my ironic joke.
How about you joke about this guy.

http://www.forward.com/articles/123907/

Who's Cardinal there and who is covering up what?

Shocking outcome, isn't it? Must be them Catholics.

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Justice Ministry spokeswoman, Adi Simchovitz said that the child pornography case against Mondrowitz was closed in March 2009 “for lack of evidence.” She declined to offer any details.
BTW, Sandunsky sound pretty Jewish to me.
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Seriously? I will explain it one more time. This is about someone in authority covering up for those under them molesting children and NOT being punished for it. I was not talking about people molesting children, I was talking about a power structure that has institutionally set out to cover it up, with impunity. Have you watched the news over tge last 20 years? Its been pretty well reported over and over The power structure of the catholic church, which is quite rigidly controlled by a global system of authority from the pope downwards, has been shown in thousands of cases that it has done this, and that authority strucure has not suffered any prosecution for it, by any courts in the world. Have you been living under a rock for 20 years or can't you understand the point I'm making here?

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BTW, Sandunsky sound pretty Jewish to me.

It might to you, but it would sound Polish to someone who is not an idiot.
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Frankly, they have become SO famous for it, that nearly every comedian has made jokes about catholic priests and little boys. It has become such a cultural norm that its like making jokes about hockey player that have no teeth and like to fight. I haven't just pulled it out of my butt. It's a standing joke world wide for goodness sake. It would be like making jokes about Jews being tight with money. It is now so prevalent that it is part of culture. I repeat, have you been under a rock for 20 years?
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jewish jokes aren't funny, anne frankly they need to stop
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Seriously? I will explain it one more time. This is about someone in authority covering up for those under them molesting children and NOT being punished for it. I was not talking about people molesting children, I was talking about a power structure that has institutionally set out to cover it up, with impunity. Have you watched the news over tge last 20 years? Its been pretty well reported over and over The power structure of the catholic church, which is quite rigidly controlled by a global system of authority from the pope downwards, has been shown in thousands of cases that it has done this, and that authority strucure has not suffered any prosecution for it, by any courts in the world. Have you been living under a rock for 20 years or can't you understand the point I'm making here?
You should go to www.pennlive.com, and straighten out some of the idiots writing letters to the editor saying Paterno did nothing wrong. Someone needs to rip the Penn State blinders off their head.

Look at this shit:

http://www.pennlive.com/letters/inde...y_support.html
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According to the Sixth Amendment, we have the right to trial by a jury of our peers. The phrase "innocent until proven guilty" also come to mind.

When I read the editorial on the front page of Tuesday's paper, I began to wonder if, more often than not, people are now considered guilty until proven innocent.

If Jerry Sandusky is found guilty of the charges, then by all means he should be punished. But to condemn Joe Paterno, who reported the incident, is outrageous.

Penn State, as well as many other universities and colleges, has an internal affairs program that acts as the sounding board for crimes committed on any of the 19 Penn State campuses.

Paterno fulfilled his duties by reporting the acts to his boss, Tim Curley, who should have taken this matter up with internal affairs.

Had Paterno reported this to the police he would have been under fire for failing to go through the university.

It seems that many people are ready to be the judge, jury and executioner where JoePa is concerned.

As an alumnus, fan and graduate student, I stand behind Paterno and my university.

ELYSE BELL, Swatara Twp.
And here's a great one. Apparantly it doesn't matter what goes on, you can't break the chain of command, just like in the military.

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During my 29 years of Army service, I was frequently questioned about our product. My response was simple ? good citizens, community leaders.

It was heartwarming for me to discover that Penn State football coach Joe Paterno is in a similar business ? producing good citizens and leaders. I have grown dismayed at The Patriot-News' chorus asking for his retirement. All who believe coach Paterno should have done more than simply report the alleged improprieties to his supervisor are demonstrating their ignorance of how effective managers and leaders should conduct themselves.

Just as I, a senior military leader, should not check up on the actions of my superiors, coach Paterno should not go behind the back of a man of the stature of his superior. The exception to this rule is a demonstrated unwillingness of the superior to carry out his appointed duties. Mr. Curley had not demonstrated an unwillingness to take the appropriate action. Therefore, I believe Paterno remains morally right in his actions.

I am compelled to assume your statement ... "this is not about his age" ... is as untrue as the apparently perjured statements of Mr. Curley.

MELITA McCULLY Retired Colonel, West Hanover Twp.
This support from delusional idiots who can't see past good ole "JoePa's" football legacy and actually look at the facts and his lack of action is killing me. I'm going to have to stop watching the news and reading the updates online.
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It might to you, but it would sound Polish to someone who is not an idiot.
"ski" is Polish, dumb ass.

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Frankly, they have become SO famous for it, that nearly every comedian has made jokes about catholic priests and little boys. It has become such a cultural norm that its like making jokes about hockey player that have no teeth and like to fight. I haven't just pulled it out of my butt. It's a standing joke world wide for goodness sake. It would be like making jokes about Jews being tight with money. It is now so prevalent that it is part of culture. I repeat, have you been under a rock for 20 years?
And Jewish jokes? Tell me good one.

So what higher source covering for Rabbi from that link that I posted? How come we don't see outrage? Tell us how you feel about your fellow jews covering up his crimes.
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And Jewish jokes? Tell me good one.

A priest and a rabbi are walking down the street when they see a 10 year old boy. The priest gets excited and says "hey lets go fuck that kid!"....... the rabbi looks puzzled and says "out of what?"
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PSU Trustees just fired Paterno and the University's President.

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A priest and a rabbi are walking down the street when they see a 10 year old boy. The priest gets excited and says "hey lets go fuck that kid!"....... the rabbi looks puzzled and says "out of what?"
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Exactly, when a 60 year old man is fucking a 10 year old in the ass, you call the police and if you don't you are just a guilty in my opinion. The idea of covering up is just completely unacceptable behavior for anyone.
If that is what was covered up, imagine what else he pretended he didn't know about...

When someone is caught doing something wrong, and it is painted in a gray area, I always wonder what they got away with that was never made public...
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Looks like all these tough-talking coaches and football elites are a bunch of pussies to me. Then student Coach Mike McQueary, as you can see from the photo below, is not a small guy. Why didn't he run over and save that boy in the shower and give Sandusky a serious beat-down, call the police and drag his ass butt-naked outside onto the school yard to meet the police? It all went downhill from there, no one had any balls and Mike McQueary wound up with a cushy job.
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Really, who hears about someone fucking a 10 year old in the shower and does not pursue the issue? Makes you wonder how they feel about something like that themselves...
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Looks like all these tough-talking coaches and football elites are a bunch of pussies to me. Then student Coach Mike McQueary, as you can see from the photo below, is not a small guy. Why didn't he run over and save that boy in the shower and give Sandusky a serious beat-down, call the police and drag his ass butt-naked outside onto the school yard to meet the police? It all went downhill from there, no one had any balls and Mike McQueary wound up with a cushy job.
You make a good point about him not stopping it.

I have to think that McQueary has a hidden agenda on this one. I don't think he's lying, but something just doesn't add up. As for JoePa, I have mixed feelings and I'll admit I didn't read the 23 page case. It'll be interesting to see what else comes out.
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mc-queer-y. sounds like a kid diddler.
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I read only 5 pages of the Grand Jury Report and had to quit. So many people knew, even the police and the head DA.
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1969: Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career as defensive line coach at Penn State.

1977: Sandusky starts The Second Mile, a foundation to help at-risk children. Its website states that Second Mile is a ?statewide non-profit organization for children who need additional support and who would benefit from positive human contact.?

1994: Victim 7 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at about the age of 10.

1994-95: Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at Second Mile picnic when he was 7 or 8.

1995-96: Boy known as Victim 5 meets Sandusky through Second Mile when he is 7 or 8.

1996-97: Boy known as Victim 4, age 12 or 13, meets Sandusky in Second Mile program.

1998: According to the grand jury report, an 11-year-old boy?s mother called university police to complain after finding out her son had showered with Sandusky. A state Department of Public Welfare investigator told the grand jury that Sandusky had showered with the boy (Victim 6) and hugged him and ?admitted that it was wrong? and promised to not shower with the boy again. The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.

1999: Sandusky retires after learning he will not be the successor to Joe Paterno. Sandusky holds emeritus status.

Summer of 2000: Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.

Fall of 2000: According to the grand jury report, another boy (Victim 8), age 11 to 13, was seen by a janitor, Jim Calhoun, pinned against a wall while Sandusky performed oral sex on him. Calhoun was described as ?upset and crying? over what he?d seen, another person testified. Calhoun tells his supervisor, Jay Witherite and other staff members. Witherite tells Calhoun, a temporary employee, who to report the incident to, but Calhoun never files a report.

March 1, 2002: Mike McQueary, then a graduate assistant and now the receivers coach and recruiting coordinator, saw a naked boy (Victim 2) with his hands against the wall in the shower area of the locker room at the Lasch Football Building on the University Park Campus as Sandusky subjected him to anal sex, according to the grand jury report. McQueary told the grand jury that Sandusky and the boy both noticed him. McQueary went to his office and called his father, who told him to leave the building and come to his home.

? The next morning (Saturday), McQueary called Paterno and went to Paterno?s house and reported to the coach what he had witnessed.

? The next day (Sunday), Paterno called athletic director Tim Curley to his home and reported that McQueary told him that he had seen Sandusky in the showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.

? About a week and a half later, McQueary was called to a meeting with Curley and vice president of finance and business, Gary Schultz. He reported what he had seen and was told they would look into it. Paterno was not at that meeting.

? A couple of weeks after that, McQueary was contacted by Curley, who told him that Sandusky?s keys to the locker room were taken away and the incident reported to The Second Mile. Curley advised school president Graham Spanier of the information he?d received and the steps taken as a result. Spanier testified of his approval of the approach taken by Curley. The incident was not reported to the University Police or any other police agency.

2005-06: Boy known as Victim 1 meets Sandusky at The Second Mile at age 11 or 12.

2008: Sandusky was a full-time volunteer coach at a Clinton County high school. Steven Turchetta was the assistant principal and head football coach at the school attended by Victim 1. Turchetta became aware of Victim 1?s allegations after the boy?s mother called the school to report it. Sandusky is barred from the school district and the matter was reported to the authorities as mandated by law.

2008: Sandusky told The Second Mile that he was being investigated on allegations of sexual assault in Clinton County.

2009: The Pennsylvania attorney general begins an investigation when a Clinton County teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period.

Sept. 2010: Sandusky retires from The Second Mile.

Nov. 5: Sandusky is charged with sexually assaulting eight boys over a 15-year period. Among the allegations, a graduate assistant?McQueary?saw Sandusky assault a boy in the shower at the Penn State practice center in 2002. Sandusky is released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, including charges of multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor.

? Spanier gives his support for Curley and Schultz, saying ?I have known and worked daily with Tim and Gary for more than 16 years. I have complete confidence in how they handled the allegations about a former university employee.?

? Curley and Schultz are charged with perjury after being accused of failing to alert police, as required by state law, of the investigation into the allegations against Sandusky. Paterno is not charged. In a grand jury testimony, Schultz told jurors he was aware of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers at the Penn State athletic facility. Jurors wrote that Schultz ?never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the shower in 2002.? Part of Schultz?s job is overseeing campus police.

Nov. 6: In a statement issued by his son, Scott, Paterno said, ?The fact that someone we thought we knew might have harmed young people to this extent is deeply troubling. If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers.?

Paterno added, ?It was obvious the witness (McQueary) was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the grand jury report. Regardless, it was clear that the witness saw something inappropriate involving Mr. Sandusky. As coach Sandusky was retired from our coaching staff at the time, I referred the matter to university administrators.

? Curley stepped down, requesting to be placed on administrative leave so he could use the time to defend himself against perjury and other charges, Spanier announced after an emergency meeting of the Board of Trustees. Schultz also stepped down.

The resignations of Paterno and Spanier were not discussed at the meeting.

Nov. 7: Curley and Schultz appear in a Harrisburg, Pa., courtroom, where a judge set bail at $75,000. They were not required to enter pleas.

? At a press conference held by Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly and state police commissioner Frank Noonan, Kelly says that Paterno is not a target of the investigation of how Penn State handled the accusations but stopped short of saying the same for Spanier.

? On Paterno meeting his legal requirement to report suspected abuse, Noonan says, ?somebody has to question about what I would consider the moral requirements for a human being that knows of sexual things that are taking place with a child.?

Nov. 8: Joe Paterno?s weekly news conference is canceled, setting off a firestorm of criticism from media nationwide. Paterno?s son, Scott, said Spanier canceled it, not Paterno. He also stated that a New York Times report that preparations were being discussed for Paterno?s exit as coach was premature.

? A potential ninth victim contacted authorities after seeing media accounts of Sandusky?s arrest, The Patriot-News of Harrisburg, Pa., reported.

? Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett said he plans to attend Friday?s meeting of the Penn State Board of Trustees, along with three Cabinet members.

? U.S. Rep. Patrick Meehan said he?s asking Education Secretary Arne Duncan to look into whether Penn State violated the Clery Act, which requires colleges and universities to prepare, publish and distribute an annual security report disclosing all criminal offenses reported to campus security or local police.

? Senate Majority Leader Dominic Pileggi, along with The Patriot-News and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, called for Spanier to resign.

? Sandusky?s preliminary hearing scheduled for Wednesday is delayed until Dec. 7.

? The Centre Daily Times reports that Sandusky has been barred from being alone with his grandchildren under a temporary order on behalf of three children.

? Penn State students congregate on Paterno?s lawn in a show of support for the 84-year-old coach. Paterno briefly addresses the students, telling them to pray for the victims.

? The Board of Trustees releases a statement, saying it is ?outraged by the horrifying details contained in the Grand Jury Report.? It also states that at Friday?s meeting, the Board will appoint a Special Committee to investigate the circumstances that ?gave rise to the Grand Jury Report.?

Nov. 9: Penn State's Board of Trustees fires head coach Joe Paterno and president Graham Spanier, effective immediately. Defensive coordinator Tom Bradley is named interim head coach and Rodney Erickson will serve as the interim school president. The news comes after Paterno announced he would retire at the end of the season. In that announcement, Paterno said, ?This is a tragedy. It is one of the greatest sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more,? he said.

? U.S. Department of Education announces plans to launch investigation into the scandal at Penn State
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Looks like all these tough-talking coaches and football elites are a bunch of pussies to me. Then student Coach Mike McQueary, as you can see from the photo below, is not a small guy. Why didn't he run over and save that boy in the shower and give Sandusky a serious beat-down, call the police and drag his ass butt-naked outside onto the school yard to meet the police? It all went downhill from there, no one had any balls and Mike McQueary wound up with a cushy job.
The more I think about this, why is McQueary not getting let go? If he noticed that the school wasn't doing anything about it and the guy still worked there, why did he not go to the police, he was the one that witnessed it firsthand? In my eyes, he did worse than Joe since he saw it happen and didn't do shit about it right then, like you said, kicking the guy's ass.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:58 AM   #75
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Not enough room in the post above to comment, but it was downhill long before McQueary and the shower incident. There was plenty of reason to not let Sandusky anywhere near children of any age a long time ago.
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:59 AM   #76
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I'm a bit confused by this as its not news over here but am i correct that this Joe Paterno was told by an other person that a third person was a kiddy fidler and Joe then informed his boss about the allegations?
If so then i don't see really what he has done wrong, he reported his concerns to his boss but not the police but then why should he, he never saw the abuse and only had second hand evidence that it happened.
Everybody has heard a story about what someone else has alleged to have done but do you ever go to the police with the story? No, of cause you don't unless you have real evidence. It was up t the person who saw the act to report it.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:08 AM   #77
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The more I think about this, why is McQueary not getting let go? If he noticed that the school wasn't doing anything about it and the guy still worked there, why did he not go to the police, he was the one that witnessed it firsthand? In my eyes, he did worse than Joe since he saw it happen and didn't do shit about it right then, like you said, kicking the guy's ass.
They said he still has his job "at this time." He could be let go, too. I think he's getting some leniency because he was a student at the time he witnessed the rape. I think it's bullshit. At this point, anyone who had any knowledge should be fucking fired. What gets me even more is all the brainwashed people here in central PA who think JoePa is getting screwed over.

I've heard people say the board of trustees needed a "fall guy" so they picked on Joe. I've heard people say Joe couldn't do more, because if he broke the chain of command (reporting to his superiors) he would have been fired for checking up on his bosses. I actually heard a teacher this morning try to justify that, saying if he sees something at his school, he is required to report it to the administration, and then he should stay out of it. My response was "this isn't walking in on some kid smoking a joint in the boys room!"

The best one I heard today was that JoePa couldn't call authorities because of privacy laws...doing so would have violated the victim's privacy. Huh? Seriously, these are the people I'm surrounded with in central PA right now.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:11 AM   #78
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Paterno will be forced out, and he'll probably die much sooner than he would have.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:13 AM   #79
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I'm a bit confused by this as its not news over here but am i correct that this Joe Paterno was told by an other person that a third person was a kiddy fidler and Joe then informed his boss about the allegations?
If so then i don't see really what he has done wrong, he reported his concerns to his boss but not the police but then why should he, he never saw the abuse and only had second hand evidence that it happened.
Everybody has heard a story about what someone else has alleged to have done but do you ever go to the police with the story? No, of cause you don't unless you have real evidence. It was up t the person who saw the act to report it.
Check out my timeline post up above, post #73. By the time the shower incident had occurred, there were already past allegations against Sudansky. I would see your point if it was the first time an allegation of that nature had been made, but since it was repeatedly occurring, whether he had actually been convicted of anything or not, JoePa should have taken it to the proper authorities, as there would be good reason to believe it's true.
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several people witnessed several acts?

did this dude drive around with a full loaded gun rack or something?
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:17 AM   #81
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several people witnessed several acts?

did this dude drive around with a full loaded gun rack or something?
Penn State football is god in State College. The people who should have taken proper action to protect the children were more concerned with the impact on the football program.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:45 PM   #82
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several people witnessed several acts?

did this dude drive around with a full loaded gun rack or something?
When you are part of a pedo ring where powerful people are involved you get a bit too confident. I am talking about the type of power that is above the law and controls politicians, judges, and law enforcement. Most of the attention will be put on Paterno. Sure Paterno should be fired for not speaking up but he should not be getting most of the blame and airtime. Notice how the University president's face is not plastered over ever story?

These pedo rings are very common and will continue. The bots in the media do not dare report on the people involved because their careers will be over by the end of the day and they will have to watch their backs for the rest of their lives.

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Old 11-10-2011, 12:58 PM   #83
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He's since came out and apologized. He did not know what happened when he made the original Tweet.
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Really, who hears about someone fucking a 10 year old in the shower and does not pursue the issue?
No kidding. This is all about the craziest fucking shit I've ever heard.
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:03 PM   #85
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Rumor claims Sandusky "Pimped Out" boys to rich donors:

rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ycn-10407023
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People defending this guy for reporting a crime to his bosses and not police are fucking crazy.

Sure he isn't as bad as the fuck who was raping these kids, but he didn't help, and his inaction led to this.
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Old 11-10-2011, 02:31 PM   #87
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Bottom line!
Sandusky the pedo fucked up bigtime and brought Penn State to it's knees.

Case fucking closed!

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