B12

[Sid70]

Oky, 3 months no meat. What so I lose or lack as an organism? What should I intake instead, especially for B12 ?

[Emil]

Iron?

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[Scott McD]

[PR_Glen]

fish? nothing healthy about avoiding meat completely...

[Chosen]

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[brassmonkey]

i just had a burger



luv me sum in -n- out

[edgeprod]

I wouldn't/couldn't recommend this. Want to cut carbs? I'd be happy to help. Cut proteins? Not something I'd suggest.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I wouldn't/couldn't recommend this. Want to cut carbs? I'd be happy to help. Cut proteins? Not something I'd suggest.

i wouldn't recommend either for healthy living.. but at least when you cut carbs down it doesn't leave you with iron deficiency and osteoporosis...

[Cory W]

i don't see how a vegan diet is cutting proteins.

You will need B12. It was at one time found on vegetables but pesticides and ardent washing put an end to that. Do you live near a Whole Foods? Go get some Hemp Milk that's fortified with B12. Its better to "eat it," as opposed to take a vitamin.

Iron is fine. Do you eat spinach? Lima Beans? Potatoes? The best thing you can do on a vegan diet is invest in a good juicer.

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I wouldn't/couldn't recommend this. Want to cut carbs? I'd be happy to help. Cut proteins? Not something I'd suggest.

Its bad for my digesting and it affects sault that caused minor problems to me.

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by Cory W

i don't see how a vegan diet is cutting proteins.

You will need B12. It was at one time found on vegetables but pesticides and ardent washing put an end to that. Do you live near a Whole Foods? Go get some Hemp Milk that's fortified with B12. Its better to "eat it," as opposed to take a vitamin.

Iron is fine. Do you eat spinach? Lima Beans? Potatoes? The best thing you can do on a vegan diet is invest in a good juicer.

My major diet consists of milk, eggs, cheese, bread, potato, carrots, fish ( mostly fried or canned tuna ).

At times i want to eat some chicken badly, but i get over it somehow.

I did that because my doc said to cut meat for a month, so i did and went on... now, its ok but I keep thinking if i get enough of what i should be getting...

[Sid70]

ah and I do love Borsch ( free of meet )!! Every hohol does!

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by Sid70

My major diet consists of milk, eggs, cheese, bread, potato, carrots, fish ( mostly fried or canned tuna ).

At times i want to eat some chicken badly, but i get over it somehow.

I did that because my doc said to cut meat for a month, so i did and went on... now, its ok but I keep thinking if i get enough of what i should be getting...

Might wanna re-evaluate what dr you go to...

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by Choopa Phil

Might wanna re-evaluate what dr you go to...

well, i once wake up and my toe hurts so i cant normally walk, so i barely drove to the hospital and he did not scan just said: "mate, you've been having a lot of good life. Cut meat, its arthritis. So I did, took no pills and pain went away in 5 days but made me quit on meat for 3 months for now.

[porno jew]

despite the low carb trend vegan and vegetarian diets are very healthy and you will live longer, feel better and find it easier to keep weight off.

just eat a wide range of foods and just don`t replace meat with other animal proteins.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by Sid70

well, i once wake up and my toe hurts so i cant normally walk, so i barely drove to the hospital and he did not scan just said: "mate, you've been having a lot of good life. Cut meat, its arthritis. So I did, took no pills and pain went away in 5 days but made me quit on meat for 3 months for now.

couldn't the pain have gone away from the fact that you are eating more vegetables? You are probably eating lots that are loaded with antiinflamatory properties which can help with that, doesn't exactly mean it was caused from meat.

Tuna is meat.. you eat that often and you are more than covered with regards to b vitamins and omega 3's 6's Milk is good too.. You should be all covered. Borsch sounds interesting, haven't tried that yet.



as for my vegan friends, i would like to see this magical land of longevity where people live long healthy lives by avoiding meat and meat products completely.. In my life i have known a handful of people in their 90's a small few in their hundreds (some family members) and none of them were vegan. I have yet to come across a vegan that is over 70 or older though.. do they exist? I'm sure there are a few, but not enough to prove much...

[PR_Glen]

that being said, i think people eat far too much meat, especially the red stuff, myself included so not pushing 3 steaks a day here now ;)

I do eat meals without meat in other words, i just think balance is better.

[Cory W]

Originally Posted by Sid70

well, i once wake up and my toe hurts so i cant normally walk, so i barely drove to the hospital and he did not scan just said: "mate, you've been having a lot of good life. Cut meat, its arthritis. So I did, took no pills and pain went away in 5 days but made me quit on meat for 3 months for now.

There you go.

You have a good doctor. Most other people rely on pills.

If you can get a juicer and some fortified products with B12, you are good. You can get B12 vitamins, just makes sure you don't over do it. You don't need a ton.

Everyone says eating a plant based diet is bad. But go look at the health situation for a western diet compared to those cultures that eat closer to vegan. I mean, end of day, what else do you need? You are now pain free and not on meds? You win...

[Cory W]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

couldn't the pain have gone away from the fact that you are eating more vegetables? You are probably eating lots that are loaded with antiinflamatory properties which can help with that, doesn't exactly mean it was caused from meat.

Tuna is meat.. you eat that often and you are more than covered with regards to b vitamins and omega 3's 6's Milk is good too.. You should be all covered. Borsch sounds interesting, haven't tried that yet.



as for my vegan friends, i would like to see this magical land of longevity where people live long healthy lives by avoiding meat and meat products completely.. In my life i have known a handful of people in their 90's a small few in their hundreds (some family members) and none of them were vegan. I have yet to come across a vegan that is over 70 or older though.. do they exist? I'm sure there are a few, but not enough to prove much...

Can you explain this?
http://www.time.com/time/interactive...668275,00.html

Length of life can be a major fallacy. Its the quality of the life lived that matters most. The two are not always linked.

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by Cory W

There you go.

You have a good doctor. Most other people rely on pills.

If you can get a juicer and some fortified products with B12, you are good. You can get B12 vitamins, just makes sure you don't over do it. You don't need a ton.

Everyone says eating a plant based diet is bad. But go look at the health situation for a western diet compared to those cultures that eat closer to vegan. I mean, end of day, what else do you need? You are now pain free and not on meds? You win...

Thanks, indeed, mate!

[Cory W]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

couldn't the pain have gone away from the fact that you are eating more vegetables? You are probably eating lots that are loaded with antiinflamatory properties which can help with that, doesn't exactly mean it was caused from meat.

The pain went away because meat is linked to arthritis. Heavily.

I don't care what people choose to eat, I think if you feel well, and you sleep at night, go for it. But I find it odd that anyone thinks a vegan is some unhealthy being. There are plenty of vegans that fight in MMA. I think there is a pretty good tight end in the NFL doing the same : )

I box and surf. I feel great. I really never eat meat. I rarely get sick. Its not some hippie trend for me, its about health. For me, it works very well.

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Tuna is meat.. you eat that often and you are more than covered with regards to b vitamins and omega 3's 6's Milk is good too.. You should be all covered. Borsch sounds interesting, haven't tried that yet.

Good then too, cus basically i feel ok, it even less stressful on my stomach without meat and poultry. Been eating Borsch since I was a lil kid

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by Cory W

The pain went away because meat is linked to arthritis. Heavily.

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I have applied some local ointment to help the pain gone but nothing internal, my toe got back to normal in a week or so. Plus, as my buddies advised i drank a ton of apple juice.

[porno jew]

sounds like you have gout. so yeah, you have to cut out meat, beer, any purine rich foods, that is unless you want have periodic attacks of the worst pain in your life.

also eat cherries and drink cherry juice on a regular basis as it reduces uric acid levels.

[porno jew]

like i said drink cherry juice and don`t take asprin as it makes it worse, motrin instead.

[Best-In-BC]

Loser, EAT A FUCKING STEAK!

[Sid70]

Originally Posted by porno jew

sounds like you have gout. so yeah, you have to cut out meat, beer, any purine rich foods, that is unless you want have periodic attacks of the worst pain in your life.

also eat cherries and drink cherry juice on a regular basis as it reduces uric acid levels.

Right. That was what the doc said, a little hard to explain, English is not my native.
And basically it is right about alcohol and beer in particular, makes me fart like an elephant