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JimmyStephans 06-17-2013 07:55 AM

AK, whats the latest link or information to donate?

AdultKing 06-17-2013 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19674017)
AK, whats the latest link or information to donate?

Either via Paxum or Paypal at [email protected]

Thanks for your continuing support.

JimmyStephans 06-18-2013 03:06 PM

AK,

Have you had any dealings with https://datafile.com/

Seem to be very slow on DMCA (been a week on some so far).

Jimmy

johnnyloadproductions 06-18-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19676408)
AK,

Have you had any dealings with https://datafile.com/

Seem to be very slow on DMCA (been a week on some so far).

Jimmy

That's usually how they all seem to grow, when small they flat out ignore items until they really start to get notice, by then they have enough traction.

I'm sure AK will put them in their place. :2 cents:

Fat Panda 06-18-2013 05:45 PM

keep up the good work taking down these criminal parasites!

start going after the AD NETWORKS that help CRIMINALS monetize their illicit activities

johnnyloadproductions 06-18-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 19676587)
keep up the good work taking down these criminal parasites!

start going after the AD NETWORKS that help CRIMINALS monetize their illicit activities

All in time, let the man sort things out. If people only knew how much time he puts into
this on some days you'd be boggled.

Consider a donation for the cause if you can, all helps, refer to AdultKing's post up above for the donation email for PayPal or Paxum.

DWB 06-18-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19673788)

There's been some movement against some of the largest reseller sites, who feel quite safe at the moment, however we have a nasty surprise in store for them.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

AdultKing 06-18-2013 08:41 PM

We've made another move against USENET providers and have referred several matters to some payment providers to seek terminations.

The battle against file lockers is one that is entrenched with complexity and difficulty, we have seen many file lockers and resellers lose some of their payment processing accounts and we'll keep chipping away at them, keeping them moving, ensuring that they continue to lose money.

Sites like DepFile.com are pretty much done as we have hurt so many resellers and prevented so many sites from gaining new payment processing that they will languish for a while and then close.

Nautilus has posted lists of dead sites previously, the list keeps growing and the file lockers keep hurting.

We are aware of many file lockers now who are aggressively shaving affiliate and uploader payments due to the dire financial difficulty they face.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans (Post 19676408)
AK,

Have you had any dealings with https://datafile.com/

Seem to be very slow on DMCA (been a week on some so far).

Jimmy

On our hit list.

topnotch, standup guy 06-18-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19676750)
We are aware of many file lockers now who are aggressively shaving affiliate and uploader payments due to the dire financial difficulty they face.

Ah gee whiz, the poor upload monkeys aren't getting paid. That's a crying shame :1orglaugh

Great work AK :thumbsup

.

dgraves 06-18-2013 10:57 PM

Imagine that, thieves stealing from thieves. Who would have thunk it.

The ironic part is they bitch on their boards about being ripped off like they produced the content.

Naughty 06-19-2013 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19676750)
We've made another move against USENET providers and have referred several matters to some payment providers to seek terminations.

The battle against file lockers is one that is entrenched with complexity and difficulty, we have seen many file lockers and resellers lose some of their payment processing accounts and we'll keep chipping away at them, keeping them moving, ensuring that they continue to lose money.

Sites like DepFile.com are pretty much done as we have hurt so many resellers and prevented so many sites from gaining new payment processing that they will languish for a while and then close.

Nautilus has posted lists of dead sites previously, the list keeps growing and the file lockers keep hurting.

We are aware of many file lockers now who are aggressively shaving affiliate and uploader payments due to the dire financial difficulty they face.



On our hit list.

Props to you AK for still going strong with this.

adultmobile 06-19-2013 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19676750)
We've made another move against USENET providers and have referred several matters to some payment providers to seek terminations.

Found one with paypal:

http://usenetserver.com -> https://accounts.usenetserver.com/re...ex.php?rate=50 -> PayPal!

Googled and found so many, I was wrongly thinking usenet is no more so popular in 2013!? Last time I used it was 1997 or so

http://a.gogousenet.com/ -> https://a.gogousenet.com/account/signup

http://www.usenext.com/ (usenext.de , usenext.it etc.) is a .exe? http://www.twinplan.com/AF_TP/MediaS...cfm?ATP=435148
affiliate: http://www.twinplan.com/AF_TP/Public...ls.cfm?WSID=12

http://www.firstload.com -> https://www.firstload.com/partner/

http://www.giganews.com/

https://adult.myusenet.net/account/signup

http://pictureview.com/

http://easynews.com/ -> http://www.usenetjunction.com/affiliates/
From there (reseller/aggregator affiliate) we got many: http://www.usenetjunction.com/affiliates/partners.php

helterskelter808 06-19-2013 06:20 AM

Found one? :1orglaugh Found one???

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Do you actually, seriously, believe the shit AK posts here?

Allow me to save you some time, Sherlock:

Every Usenet server that anyone uses has Paypal. They have had Paypal for the last decade, and they will always have Paypal.

These are not amateur fly-by-night file-locker clowns set up in the wake of the Feds (not AK) taking down Megaupload and scaring the rest shitless. They are major, legitimate companies, in business for 15-20 years. Do you think the MPAA, RIAA and software companies have been asleep all that time?

When AK talks about "USENET providers", he's talking about some dude in his bedroom reselling some some shitty Euro server, with about $25 in his Paypal account. Or maybe he's just completely making it up. I asked him the last time he claimed to have shut down "14" "providers", and of course he couldn't give any information to back up that claim.

Usenet is so far above his pay grade it's fucking ridiculous.

You suckers will truly believe anything.

Nautilus 06-19-2013 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19677196)
Do you actually, seriously, believe the shit AK posts here?

No of course not. No one here believes the shit AK says. Nearly total extermination of Paypal at file lockers, as well as Payza and Moneybookers, as well as several other major companies such as 2Checkout and Avangate, and also mass terminations of merchant accounts which lead to no cc payments option at many file lockers such as Depfile - it didn't happen, its all lies. The future of stealing is bright and AK is of no threat to it. No go back to run your autoposter, there's nothing for you to see here.

helterskelter808 06-19-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 19677335)
No of course not. No one here believes the shit AK says. Nearly total extermination of Paypal at file lockers, as well as Payza and Moneybookers, as well as several other major companies such as 2Checkout and Avangate, and also mass terminations of merchant accounts which lead to no cc payments option at many file lockers such as Depfile - it didn't happen, its all lies. The future of stealing is bright and AK is of no threat to it. No go back to run your autoposter, there's nothing for you to see here.

:1orglaugh You are fucking clueless.

Edit: Tell you what though, if you're so confident in what your Majesty says, let's hear all about the "Usenet providers" he has taken down, how he took them down and why they were 'taken down'. That's what got me posting in this thread in the first place (couldn't give a rat's ass about dime a dozen 'file lockers'), his total BS about Usenet.

(Funny how he has time to 'take down' everything but tubes. :1orglaugh)

nikki99 06-19-2013 07:58 AM

depic.me was down for 24 hours

adultmobile 06-19-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19677196)
Found one? :1orglaugh Found one???
Do you actually, seriously, believe the shit AK posts here?

Some of it. Anyway let's see if that "one" loses Paypal (newshosting.com + usenetserver.com + easynews.com , apparently bro's via http://www.usenetjunction.com/affiliates/ ), it may be because of AK. Or because of me? :)

AdultKing 06-19-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19677196)
Every Usenet server that anyone uses has Paypal. They have had Paypal for the last decade, and they will always have Paypal.

Times change. Unless these USENET providers drop a whole bunch of groups they will lose Paypal and other forms of payment processing.

The reason the status quo exists is because for a long time USENET was viewed as a carriage service and nothing more. However USENET has become a relatively small group of major servers carrying huge retention of massive amounts of copyright infringing and illegal content.

Unless the incumbent providers change their operations then it will not be possible for them to process payments as time moves forward.

tokmansta 06-19-2013 09:27 AM

I doubt you can do anything against usenet provider. AFAIK people are already complaining that usenet provider follow DMCA to strict and loads of files are missing on servers.

johnnyloadproductions 06-19-2013 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokmansta (Post 19677502)
I doubt you can do anything against usenet provider. AFAIK people are already complaining that usenet provider follow DMCA to strict and loads of files are missing on servers.

Yet it is still a major problem and will continue to be until the flow of money is choked. It all boils down to money.

signupdamnit 06-19-2013 09:32 AM

If only we could clone AdultKing 100 times and drop them all back in 2006 using a time machine. Holy shit. It would be interesting to see the difference!

AdultKing 06-19-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokmansta (Post 19677502)
I doubt you can do anything against usenet provider. AFAIK people are already complaining that usenet provider follow DMCA to strict and loads of files are missing on servers.

Imagine how much they will complain when they either:

(a) can't access their favorite newsgroups anymore because they've been dropped;

or

(b) can't pay for access to their USENET provide of choice;

one of these things will happen, time will tell which of them it is.

helterskelter808 06-19-2013 12:54 PM

^ Most people here have no clue about Usenet which is why you can get away with continually posting vague "in motion" nonsense like that about it.

I believe you do know about Usenet though, which is why you know that what you post is baloney.

Why don't you list the groups you keep talking about, BTW? Is it because what you are claiming is pure BS, or because the groups have nothing to do with copyright infringement?

helterskelter808 06-19-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19677423)
Some of it. Anyway let's see if that "one" loses Paypal (newshosting.com + usenetserver.com + easynews.com , apparently bro's via http://www.usenetjunction.com/affiliates/ ), it may be because of AK. Or because of me? :)

Most of what he says, relating to file lockers, probably is true; the Usenet stuff is pure fantasy.

As for the Usenet Service Providers you mention there, you're looking at things from a warped porn standpoint.

They're not "bros", they were formerly entirely separate major Usenet providers taken over many years ago by Hindwinds, that amongst many other things produces the NNTP server software Typhoon.

DWB 06-19-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19677337)
Funny how he has time to 'take down' everything but tubes.

I believe you are smart enough to know that you can't take down tubes. There is no leverage as they are not breaking the law.

Of course we all know some of them at one time had in-house uploaders, and some of them probably still do, but unless you have real proof of that happening today, they are legit, like it or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19677868)
^ Most people here have no clue about Usenet which is why you can get away with continually posting vague "in motion" nonsense like that about it.

I believe you do know about Usenet though, which is why you know that what you post is baloney.

Why don't you list the groups you keep talking about, BTW? Is it because what you are claiming is pure BS, or because the groups have nothing to do with copyright infringement?

And you care about any of this because?

I always get a kick out of the guys who have nothing to gain from any of this yet they waste their time attacking AK over and over and over again. Is it your true colors or do you just have nothing better to do?

adultmobile 06-19-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19677954)
As for the Usenet Service Providers you mention there, you're looking at things from a warped porn standpoint.

I did not judged if these providers are good or bad, I don't know. Simply AK said he targets unspecified "usenet" sites, so I googled to find some using paypal, and re-posted such 5 min. google job here. So if they will lose paypal it means paypal listens AK on usenet, if they keep paypal, these usenet guys are enough legit.

helterskelter808 06-19-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19678000)
I believe you are smart enough to know that you can't take down tubes. There is no leverage as they are not breaking the law.

What laws are being broken by Usenet providers? Hint: none.

Quote:

And you care about any of this because?
Why do you care why I care?

Quote:

I always get a kick out of the guys who have nothing to gain from any of this yet they waste their time attacking AK over and over and over again. Is it your true colors or do you just have nothing better to do?
What does anyone have to gain from posting anything here? If someone wants to tell me that different rules apply to this thread, and it's simply all about swallowing every claim he makes, however far-fetched, without question, I'll quit posting to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19678002)
I did not judged if these providers are good or bad, I don't know. Simply AK said he targets unspecified "usenet" sites, so I googled to find some using paypal, and re-posted such 5 min. google job here. So if they will lose paypal it means paypal listens AK on usenet, if they keep paypal, these usenet guys are enough legit.

He's claiming he can get all their payment methods shut down. We'll see.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2013 03:28 PM

There are so many payment methods that getting them ALL shut down - which would be fantastic if doable - would be, in my opinion, almost impossible.

dgraves 06-19-2013 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19678000)
I believe you are smart enough to know that you can't take down tubes. There is no leverage as they are not breaking the law.

Tubes are a pretty good model and a great way for affiliates to promote many different sites and various niches. The problem is when certain tube owners decided to cut the content owners out of the equation thinking they could just eliminate what they thought was the "middle man".

It would have been a smarter, long-term plan for the tube owners to partner up with the producers rather than saying "fuck you". TGP's/MGP's worked well and should have evolved into tubes. I don't think tubes will go anywhere soon and the smart ones will start working with content producers rather against them.

File lockers are a completely different animal because their entire business model is based on theft and they can't survive by just promoting sites as affiliates.

DWB 06-19-2013 05:35 PM

http://i.imgur.com/wRn9q9z.jpg

AdultKing 06-19-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19677954)
Most of what he says, relating to file lockers, probably is true; the Usenet stuff is pure fantasy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19678118)
What does anyone have to gain from posting anything here? If someone wants to tell me that different rules apply to this thread, and it's simply all about swallowing every claim he makes, however far-fetched, without question, I'll quit posting to it..

From the inception of this project a project management/teamroom was established for the use of the project. That system is called Podio. www.podio.com

More than a dozen people have access to the system, they participate in the brainstorming, planning, execution and end results. Everyone in the system knows what we are working on, what's being planned, likely end results and then the final results well before they are posted here.

Every single part of this project has been documented in Podio. It's all searchable, everyone can comment and participate in the evolution of the project and what we do.

Some of the members are people who have contributed considerable amounts of money and time into this project, others are equally helpful. Everything we have done has had it's genesis there.

So if you think that what I post here has no merit then you're a fool. This whole operation is able to be criticised and reviewed by about a dozen people with skin in the game, who know what's happening, when it's happening and why it's happening.

I personally deal with people at the highest levels of several organisations, companies, payment systems and so on. If you want to believe that these hours of meetings I have every week leave nothing resolved then you are delusional.

Much of what we do is not posted here because we are strategic in what we release publicly.

Nothing you or anyone else has to say deters the activities of this project, in fact it makes us more determined.

Axeman 06-19-2013 09:11 PM

Keep up the great work AK.

Robbie 06-19-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19678497)
with skin in the game

That should be the final say. Not these fucking wannabe people who think they are in the porn biz.

AdultKing, you are doing more than anybody else has done. And that's the bottom line.

If these idiots who aren't really even in the porn biz want to do anything...then why don't they shut the fuck up and DO SOMETHING.

Still waiting for one of these useless clowns to start their own organization and go after all the other pirates themselves.

You clearly stated in your first post that you are targeting file lockers.

Yet, some of these people are so goddamned stupid that they can't figure that out. No matter how many times you tell them.

Again I say...why don't they start their own organization and go after other forms of piracy themselves.
It really pisses me off to see these dumb fucks on here so obviously trying to discourage you and make you quit.

It's just pathetic on their parts.

Keep kicking ass AK. :pimp

helterskelter808 06-20-2013 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19678497)
From the inception of this project a project management/teamroom was established for the use of the project. That system is called Podio. www.podio.com

More than a dozen people have access to the system, they participate in the brainstorming, planning, execution and end results. Everyone in the system knows what we are working on, what's being planned, likely end results and then the final results well before they are posted here.

Every single part of this project has been documented in Podio. It's all searchable, everyone can comment and participate in the evolution of the project and what we do.

Some of the members are people who have contributed considerable amounts of money and time into this project, others are equally helpful. Everything we have done has had it's genesis there.

So if you think that what I post here has no merit then you're a fool. This whole operation is able to be criticised and reviewed by about a dozen people with skin in the game, who know what's happening, when it's happening and why it's happening.

I personally deal with people at the highest levels of several organisations, companies, payment systems and so on. If you want to believe that these hours of meetings I have every week leave nothing resolved then you are delusional.

Much of what we do is not posted here because we are strategic in what we release publicly.

Nothing you or anyone else has to say deters the activities of this project, in fact it makes us more determined.

That's a long way of yet again avoiding the simple questions I've asked in this thread.

If everything you say is true, and everything is so transparent and everything is on that site anyway, then simply name the 14 Usenet providers you claimed on page 106 lost their Paypal, confirm it happened because of something you did, rather than for reasons you have absolutely nothing to do with and are just trying to take credit for, and name the newsgroups you keep talking about that you claim have to be removed for Usenet providers to accept Paypal.

What's so hard about that, if it's true?

AdultKing 06-20-2013 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19678782)
That's a long way of yet again avoiding the simple questions I've asked in this thread.

If everything you say is true, and everything is so transparent and everything is on that site anyway, then simply name the 14 Usenet providers you claimed on page 106 lost their Paypal, confirm it happened because of something you did, rather than for reasons you have absolutely nothing to do with and are just trying to take credit for, and name the newsgroups you keep talking about that you claim have to be removed for Usenet providers to accept Paypal.

What's so hard about that, if it's true?

It's a matter of record that a bunch of Usenet providers lost Paypal. It was reported widely at the time. I have nothing to add in public about those terminations.

Get used to the idea you won't know everything. You're on the outside, probably a good thing too.

helterskelter808 06-20-2013 06:16 AM

Edit: fuck this shit, who cares. You aren't capable of doing jack shit to Usenet.

Dirty D 06-20-2013 06:34 AM

Seems like there are some File Locker owners in this thread - lol

Go AK

AdultKing 06-20-2013 06:36 AM

Although he edited it away, I think it's good to place HelterSkelter808's original post on the record for reference later on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808 (Post 19678879)
Get used to the idea that you your weak shit doesn't fly. Everything you have posted about Usenet is a crock of shit. There is no "inside", except your fertile imagination.

Your fanboys will accept any fantasy you spew, but do you seriously expect rational, sane people here to believe Paypal, VISA and Mastercard will shitcan well-known, multi-million dollar companies like this:

http://www.highwinds.com/

that have been a constructive part of the internet for two decades, in many different fields, on the say-so of a nobody?

If you were doing shit to Usenet, you wouldn't have to cite things that other people have done, while trying to imply that you were in some way responsible.

Typical AK tactic:

1. First post something that's happened, that you have nothing to do with, being careful not to directly claim responsibility. For example:

"One of the common complaints by people building NZB's is completion, DMCA's and other strategies actually mean that a whole lot of content has missing parts which make completion impossible."

2. Follow up with some fantastical claim of what you're going to do, to fool people into thinking (1) was down to you, and not the people with real muscle, the media industries. For example:

"We're going to crush Usenet providers who continue to distribute harmful and infringing content."

Again:

1. "14 Usenet providers have lost Paypal and can expect to lose credit card processing soon if they continue to carry certain newsgroups." <---- something you read about, carefully worded so you don't directly claim responsibility

Followed by:

2. "Don't for a moment thing Usenet is immune to what we are doing." <---- attempt to fool people into thinking it had something to do with you.

As another thread here indicates, you can't even take out bottom feeding file locker amateurs who sprang up after the FBI, not you, shattered the file locker 'industry' last year.

And you want people to think you can take down legitimate American companies, in business for the past two decades, providing a service that has existed for almost 35 years? :1orglaugh


DWB 06-20-2013 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19678899)
Although he edited it away, I think it's good to place HelterSkelter808's original post on the record for reference later on.

Oh yea, he's butthurt. Nice job. :2 cents:

Fat Panda 06-20-2013 07:58 AM

keep up the good work AK!

in my opinion the key to all of this is taking down ad networks that are essentially criminal enterprises conspiring with criminals to monetize stolen content

helterskelter808 06-20-2013 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19678899)
Although he edited it away, I think it's good to place HelterSkelter808's original post on the record for reference later on.

I edited it because it's ultimately a futile argument and a waste of my time, and yours.

I'm actually not even a fan of the 1500+ days retention on Usenet. It's something Giganews started years ago, and that every other provider was forced to keep up with, and has resulted in most of those providers, that were formerly run by Usenet enthusiasts, being swallowed up by bigger corporations.

The character of Usenet changed with binaries, and spam, and it died completely with the advent of 3 year retention and the demise of the old services. I also can't stand the fuckwits who see it merely as an alternative to torrents or other forms of piracy, rather than understanding what Usenet actually is, or was.

That said, regardless of what I think of Usenet these days, the bottom line is you are not capable of doing anything to the major providers and everything you post about Usenet is hot air.

just a punk 06-20-2013 09:25 AM

Leaseweb Wipes All Megaupload User Data, Dotcom Outraged

gransonik 06-20-2013 09:33 AM

He had 690 servers rented.. That should tell everyone how big of a business this is.

SplatterMaster 06-20-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gransonik (Post 19679170)
He had 690 servers rented.. That should tell everyone how big of a business this is.

That's just at Leaseweb. He had servers in several countries including the US

gransonik 06-20-2013 09:41 AM

I clearly made wrong career choices :D

DWB 06-20-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19679155)

Oooops. :1orglaugh

Captain Kawaii 06-20-2013 12:38 PM

Upload Monkeys must be outraged.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

WDF 06-20-2013 02:28 PM

Ohhh "Butt" the Huge Piece of Schmitz is outraged.

He will have to put down another 15 thousand calories of comfort food to feel better now.

I would hate to pay his grocery bill or his server bill for that matter.

dgraves 06-20-2013 02:52 PM

It's not easy work stealing content. First you have to right-click and "Save file as...", then you have to left-click the "upload" button. It sounds easy but do this a few thousand times and it adds up. It can take a toll on your mouse hand.

tokmansta 06-20-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gransonik (Post 19679170)
He had 690 servers rented.. That should tell everyone how big of a business this is.

"According to Sandvine, MegaUpload accounted for 1% of total traffic on fixed access networks in North America"


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