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Dirty F 02-25-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by theadultcompany (Post 19499099)
I contribute nothing to the internet? Who am I? :anon

As I said before you just assume I am running a file locker or anything of that kind just because I don't agree with your (and AK's) fucked up views.

That's how they role here. AK and his butt buddies. If you say anything slightly negative then you run illegal filelockers full of cp and beast.

MrDeiz 02-25-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19499365)
QUESTION:
"if you really want to change things - create something with real values. "

i meant something internet based, some sort of service or option. not production. you've got me wrong

MrDeiz 02-25-2013 11:06 AM

well, instead of attacking the people here you better bring your position more clear.

what's your problem again? you seem to be a talented guy since you can hack stuff, what is an art at some point. are you really stuck up with filelockers that much?

paysite business model is about to change. i've told many times it's outdated, but there's nothing to replace it with. and content owners aren't even trying hard to have things changed. there should be some agreement between filelockers and content owners, but both party prefer to act on each own. filelockers can't run that way they are doing it now. just that.

Dirty F 02-25-2013 11:52 AM

^-- I like this guy

AdultKing 02-25-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UploadMonkeyHacker (Post 19499464)
You have to ask yourself the question, why are people paying for file lockers, tubes, camsites and not for my content? In my opinion this is the most important thing, even more important than asking yourself why people pirate your content, because that's obvious, they're making money from it.

Simple. You can get A LOT of content very cheap from a file locker, albeit pirated.

The missing part of the equation here is that content is very expensive to produce, of course if you sell pirated content it's going to be 100% profit.

One $10 file locker membership can give you access to more than billions of dollars worth of content. Don't believe me ? How much do you think it's cost to produce the biggest movies, software titles, games, tv shows, porn and so on ? The producers of these digital products need to recoup a profit from their products in order to stay in business.

Re-investment in development by software companies in the US alone is several billion dollars. None of that would happen if everyone just paid $10 for a file locker "all you can eat" membership.

As I said, the only way infringing file locker operators make money is to do so on the backs of others and by exploiting the fact that many people think it's ok to steal.

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I don't have a problem. AK has a problem. Making money misleading you on one side, destroying legitimate businesses on the other side. He doesn't care about infringing or non-infringing file lockers. He will go after them all, as long as he can show you results of payment processor terminations. AK is even accepting donations from people that don't want him to target them. And I can't stand this greedy fucker.
1. We're not making money, we're operating at a loss. I know you guys see a few thousand dollars as a lot of money however I have outlined the costs of doing this work before.

2. Name one, just one, non infringing site we have gone after. You can't, because every site we have gone after has been infringing.

3. DownloadNoLimit.com contacted us wanting a partnership in the past few days. We haven't accepted because the service and what they do is toxic. We do not accept any money from any organisation that runs illegal sites.

4. None of the sites that we have impacted would have had a problem had they followed the law. The fact is the every site we have targeted has either (a) hosted infringing content and paid people to upload infringing content; or (b) not complied with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act; or (c) hosted illegal content such as child pornography; or (d) provided direct support to a site which falls into one or more of these categories.

We don't shut down sites, or impact their payment providers, if they comply with the law.

Robbie 02-25-2013 03:28 PM

AK, don't waste your breath.

People who steal never will understand. Their parents just didn't raise them right.

I work hard, and take a lot of risks. At least I make my money honestly and don't have to make excuses and twist things around to try and justify myself.

AK, you are doing the exact right thing.

These morons can't understand that YOU aren't shutting anybody down.

You are simply showing payment processors what the offending sites are doing. The owners of those sites are shutting themselves down through their own greed and thieving ways.

halfpint 02-25-2013 04:30 PM

AK you are aware that this guy is hacking into members accounts and posting under their names ?

AdultKing 02-25-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 19500092)
AK you are aware that this guy is hacking into members accounts and posting under their names ?

Yes.

8char.

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19499599)
^-- I like this guy

My new favorite poster on GFY... You just lost the title, sorry Franck...

DamianJ 02-25-2013 04:48 PM

Is it not slightly alarming that GFY's security is seemingly a piece of fucking piss to get round?

2013 02-25-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by venusgal (Post 19500125)
My new favorite poster on GFY... You just lost the title, sorry Franck...

:thumbsup:thumbsup

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19500128)
Is it not slightly alarming that GFY's security is seemingly a piece of fucking piss to get round?

You obviously have no idea how login systems work and having the most secure system still won't stop someone from guessing your stupidly easy password, as if it was hunter2.

Honez 02-25-2013 04:59 PM

Obviously, the above posts were not made by me. Le sigh :-(

DamianJ 02-25-2013 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by venusgal (Post 19500142)
You obviously have no idea how login systems work and having the most secure system still won't stop someone from guessing your stupidly easy password, as if it was hunter2.

Guess away, bitch.

I'll send you $10 to the upload monkey fund if you can brute force my password here.

TEN WHOLE BUCKS!

Happy to put it in escrow too, so you can make your rent for the month.

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19500158)
Guess away, bitch.

I'll send you $10 to the upload monkey fund if you can brute force my password here.

TEN WHOLE BUCKS!

Happy to put it in escrow too, so you can make your rent for the month.

I'm not a hacker, but I do know that if you have password123 as your password, it'll take this uploader dude not very long to brute force it or fuck even guess it himself... Clearly he's proven he's not a 1 time lucky guess guy.

signupdamnit 02-25-2013 05:05 PM

If it wasn't working then we wouldn't be seeing these guys coming in here whining. Enough said.

signupdamnit 02-25-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by venusgal (Post 19500142)
You obviously have no idea how login systems work and having the most secure system still won't stop someone from guessing your stupidly easy password, as if it was hunter2.

After X tries it should at the very least lock out the IP. Even better might be to lock out the whole account after X+X incorrect attempts and send a new password to the email on file and disable all logins until the new password is used. Not doing this make it easier to brute force.

Colmike9 02-25-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19500172)
After X tries it should at the very least lock out the IP. Even better might be to lock out the whole account after X+X incorrect attempts and send a new password to the email on file and disable all logins until the new password is used. Not doing this make it easier to brute force.

Hackers already know how to get around IP blocks easily, it's covering their tracks that's the hard part... :2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 02-25-2013 05:14 PM

Not honez :(!

signupdamnit 02-25-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19500184)
Hackers already know how to get around IP blocks easily.. :2 cents:

But it will chew through their proxies quickly. Also if you automatically lock out the account after X tries and send an email with a new long password it makes it nearly impossible to brute force. Same for locking it out for X minutes after X bad tries.

DamianJ 02-25-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19500166)
If it wasn't working then we wouldn't be seeing these guys coming in here whining. Enough said.

Not sure they are whining.

The chap brute forcing passwords here is speaking the truth in many respects. The majority of people here ARE clinging onto an outdated business model. They ARE selling cookie cutter shit porn. They ARE not providing an excellent UX. They DO have flakey security.

This industry really reminds me of the music and movie industry. Thought they were better than everyone. They had years of selling people shit they way they demanded. And people did it. Then the internet happened. And people rebelled.

The porn consumers are rebelling.

Are you making your site better than a pirated version, or are you doing a Markham and offering sites with download limiters, Real Media content and lies on your tour pages?

It's really a wake up call.

Colmike9 02-25-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19500192)
But it will chew through their proxies quickly. Also if you automatically lock out the account after X tries and send an email with a new long password it makes it nearly impossible to brute force. Same for locking it out for X minutes after X bad tries.

Reverse engineer the PW algo, run the brute force in an external offline way, then use the PW that is recovered once.. :2 cents:

*4950 hacked GFY accts

adultmobile 02-25-2013 05:17 PM

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/938/d75...unt-a3f8c1.jpg

_Richard_ 02-25-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Honez (Post 19500152)
Obviously, the above posts were not made by me. Le sigh :-(

:(:(

miss you!

signupdamnit 02-25-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19500196)
Not sure they are whining.

The chap brute forcing passwords here is speaking the truth in many respects. The majority of people here ARE clinging onto an outdated business model. They ARE selling cookie cutter shit porn. They ARE not providing an excellent UX. They DO have flakey security.

This industry really reminds me of the music and movie industry. Thought they were better than everyone. They had years of selling people shit they way they demanded. And people did it. Then the internet happened. And people rebelled.

The porn consumers are rebelling.

Are you making your site better than a pirated version, or are you doing a Markham and offering sites with download limiters, Real Media content and lies on your tour pages?

It's really a wake up call.

If a difference was not being made then he wouldn't care and you wouldn't care. He would be laughing about it or not even giving it a second thought.

signupdamnit 02-25-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19500202)
Reverse engineer the PW algo, run the brute force in an external offline way, then use the PW that is recovered once.. :2 cents:

*4950 hacked GFY accts

That works if you're dumb enough to have an algorithm which can be reverse engineered that easily. and without the proper entropy.

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19500196)
Not sure they are whining.

The chap brute forcing passwords here is speaking the truth in many respects. The majority of people here ARE clinging onto an outdated business model. They ARE selling cookie cutter shit porn. They ARE not providing an excellent UX. They DO have flakey security.

This industry really reminds me of the music and movie industry. Thought they were better than everyone. They had years of selling people shit they way they demanded. And people did it. Then the internet happened. And people rebelled.

The porn consumers are rebelling.

Are you making your site better than a pirated version, or are you doing a Markham and offering sites with download limiters, Real Media content and lies on your tour pages?

It's really a wake up call.

Sadly, I agree with you on something... Fuck. :Oh crap

Colmike9 02-25-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19500215)
That works if you're dumb enough to have an algorithm which can be reverse engineered that easily. and without the proper entropy.

True, but it happens a lot. That's how I learned years ago when it was easier..

DamianJ 02-25-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19500206)
If a difference was not being made then he wouldn't care and you wouldn't care. He would be laughing about it or not even giving it a second thought.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

Thing about piracy is that it existed WAY before the internet. The first printing presses were viewed as piracy. And paying uploaders is such a tiny, recent part of piracy.

People just do it for the bragging rights. For shtz and gglz. Because they CAN.

Do you think the people get paid that upload the TEN TB A DAY that gets uploaded to Usenet? (Clue: they don't).

This whole file locker/upload monkey thing is a red herring.

This industry fucked this industry up. Circle jerks, virus laden site, diallers, card banging, shit sites, misleading tours, content rotation, hidden x sales etc etc etc

The list goes on and on and on. We literally trained consumers not to trust us. Literally. We'd take the few people that did trust us and fuck them up. Time and again.

Now, guess what? They don't trust us.

Closing 10, 50, 100 or 1000 file lockers won't make a red cent's worth of difference to this industry's revenues.

My clients are doing more than fine, or they wouldn't be paying me to help them with marketing, but for most of them, monthly memberships paid for with a credit card is a very small part of their revenue. Times change.

DamianJ 02-25-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by venusgal (Post 19500216)
Sadly, I agree with you on something... Fuck. :Oh crap

It happens from time to time. Don't feel bad! People that know me (and there are a lot of them), realise that some of the time I just post to wind people up, and sometimes I post what I mean. When I post what I mean, a large amount of the time most people would agree with it.

Honez 02-25-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 19500191)
Not honez :(!

Not me! I got some hackage :Oh crap

Honez 02-25-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19500205)
:(:(

miss you!

Hi sweetheart! I miss you too. I don't have time to post on the boards much anymore (unless I am someone else, lol), but I'm always around on ye ol' Skype.

My Fucking Traffic 02-25-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honez (Post 19500253)
Hi sweetheart! I miss you too. I don't have time to post on the boards much anymore (unless I am someone else, lol), but I'm always around on ye ol' Skype.

You like dudes with birds perched on his erect penis? If so, I'll hit you up on skype.

AdultKing 02-25-2013 07:39 PM

megaload.it
katzfiles.com
uploadboy.com

terminated by Paypal today.

dgraves 02-25-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19500424)
megaload.it
katzfiles.com
uploadboy.com

terminated by Paypal today.

Good stuff!

johnnyloadproductions 02-25-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19500217)
True, but it happens a lot. That's how I learned years ago when it was easier..

which is why it's good to set your own personal password. FYI

2013 02-25-2013 11:19 PM

who cares

MrDeiz 02-25-2013 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19500424)
megaload.it
katzfiles.com
uploadboy.com

terminated by Paypal today.

good news for today :thumbsup

lezinterracial 02-26-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 19500217)
True, but it happens a lot. That's how I learned years ago when it was easier..

I remember there was a forum that used to tell you how to hack it. Some old php hole that allowed you to get the /etc/passwd file. Run a dictionary attack with John The Ripper or Cracker Jack. Fun stuff.

This guy seems to like SQL exploits. SQL Injection seems real popular today.

With faster graphics cards and OCLHashcat using masks now. Be interesting to see if we reach a point where if somebody gets the password file we all are screwed. I did add a few extra special characters to my password today.

lock 02-26-2013 01:13 AM

both domains aren't working

Three.Thousand 02-26-2013 04:17 AM

I think some people miss the point that there are two issues here, and only focus on one.
The first is that content gets pirated. As pointed out over and over again, piracy has always been around , and always will.

The second issue, that many seem to forget is, the profiting of other peoples work.
Filehosters and upload monkeys make money from John Doe, off of my content. Not saying its a stolen/lost sale, because John doe probably doesn't trust us anyway, but its still not right that someone other than me, or whoever I decide, should profit from my work. If my content should be available for free on any host, that is up to me, I don't need someone else helping me with making that decision.

You can argue piracy all day long, with valid arguments for both sides i guess, but what u can not argue with is why someone else has the right to profit/make money off of my product.

Ramirez 02-26-2013 05:17 AM

good work AK.

lezinterracial 02-26-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Three.Thousand (Post 19500879)
You can argue piracy all day long, with valid arguments for both sides i guess, but what u can not argue with is why someone else has the right to profit/make money off of my product.

Agreed. Not so bad to see fans upload their favorite bands on youtube. But does bother me to see them put ads on them.

AdultKing 02-26-2013 03:51 PM

filepurpose.com has been terminated by Paypal today.

Dirty F 02-26-2013 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19502005)
filepurpose.com has been terminated by Paypal today.

Goddamnit, that was my favourite locker!

MrDeiz 02-27-2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19502005)
filepurpose.com has been terminated by Paypal today.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

2013 02-27-2013 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19502013)
Goddamnit, that was my favourite locker!

:2 cents::thumbsup

My Fucking Traffic 02-27-2013 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19502013)
Goddamnit, that was my favourite locker!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MrDeiz 02-27-2013 10:10 AM

just checked some sharemasters sites from xttp://www.wjunction.com/88-site-reviews
those are still with visa/mc
https://rapidgator.net/article/premium
http://uploaded.net/register/choice/PRM-M1

looks like ikoruna processes them
http://cloudzer.net/register/email/PRM-D2/ikoruna

this one has many resellers
https://www.share-online.biz/register

MrDeiz 02-27-2013 01:01 PM

btw what's the situation with credit cards for file lockers?
some others having that option
http://cepzo.com/?op=payments
https://hotfile.com/premium.html?id=194982139
http://freakshare.com/payment/cc_fds/80/payment.html
http://www.secureupload.eu/1gc46k488...iD.AC3-XaW.avi

bunch of payment options http://hitfile.net/onUs


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